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Posted: 10/10/2009 6:27:28 PM EDT
So I think I may start collecting bayonet's. I got my first one last week a Yugo for my Yugo rifle. Dont know anything about them really. Did find the correct frog and handstrap for it though. Today just got another type I assume is chinese but im not sure and was hoping someone could tell me what type it is. It has engraved 1774 on the knife and scabbard. Looks to be done by hand and not a stamp. A 10 with 2 circles around that number on the handle. The blade has one ding on the cutting area but otherwise looks to be in great condition, and cleaned up nicely. I guess the handle and scabbard is that bakelight material.

I noticed both are dull, can they be sharpened or is that frowned upon for these weapons. These are really solid feeling as im only used to cheap folders. I plan on collecting more and possibly putting them in a display case.


Pic

Link Posted: 10/10/2009 6:51:04 PM EDT
[#1]
You have a well-used Bulgarian (the "10" in circles is the arsenal stamp) bayonet.  Technically, we'd refer to it as a Bulgarian Type II bayonet.  There's a few variations of that particular bayonet.  Here's some:

I've noticed there's at least four variations of the Bulgarian Type II bayonet.  There's also the bayonets that have electro-penciled numbers and those that have deep stamped numbers.  

Hope these photos can help someone.  As the bayonet is affixed on the rifle, there's the:

*  large circle/number on right handle with brown leather
*  small circle/number (upside down) on right handle with brown leather
*  small circle/number on left handle with brown leather
(possibly a large circle/number (upside down) on left handle with brown leather
*  black painted handle/scabbard with black leather

Front:


Back:


Right side:



Left side:



Various markings:



Bayonet collecting is extremely interesting, but costly nowadays. Especially with some of the extremely rare or uncommon ones that can command hundreds of dollars or even a thousand.  It's also a bit cut-throat anymore as there's a lot more folks doing it these days.  And there's SO MANY bayonets out there - you simply just can't collect one or two!  

Check this site out - it was created by one of our members and is a great reference:

http://www.ak47bayonets.com/
Link Posted: 10/10/2009 6:53:10 PM EDT
[#2]
Bulgarian.  Don't sharpen it.
Link Posted: 10/10/2009 6:55:25 PM EDT
[#3]
Don't sharpen it!  That is a nice Bulgarian Type ll AK 74 bayonet.  They go well with wood furniture Bulgys.  Some of them have scabbards made in Russian.

Warrant
Link Posted: 10/10/2009 7:00:07 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
You have a well-used Bulgarian (the "10" in circles is the arsenal stamp) bayonet.  Technically, we'd refer to it as a Bulgarian Type II bayonet.  There's a few variations of that particular bayonet.  Here's some:

I've noticed there's at least four variations of the Bulgarian Type II bayonet.  There's also the bayonets that have electro-penciled numbers and those that have deep stamped numbers.  

Hope these photos can help someone.  As the bayonet is affixed on the rifle, there's the:

*  large circle/number on right handle with brown leather
*  small circle/number (upside down) on right handle with brown leather
*  small circle/number on left handle with brown leather
(possibly a large circle/number (upside down) on left handle with brown leather
*  black painted handle/scabbard with black leather

Front:
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q86/Blue_Falcon_One/Bayonets/b99.jpg

Back:
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q86/Blue_Falcon_One/Bayonets/b999.jpg

Right side:
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q86/Blue_Falcon_One/Bayonets/b3.jpg
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q86/Blue_Falcon_One/Bayonets/b6.jpg

Left side:
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q86/Blue_Falcon_One/Bayonets/b4.jpg
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q86/Blue_Falcon_One/Bayonets/b5.jpg

Various markings:
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q86/Blue_Falcon_One/Bayonets/b9.jpg


Bayonet collecting is extremely interesting, but costly nowadays. Especially with some of the extremely rare or uncommon ones that can command hundreds of dollars or even a thousand.  It's also a bit cut-throat anymore as there's a lot more folks doing it these days.  And there's SO MANY bayonets out there - you simply just can't collect one or two!  

Check this site out - it was created by one of our members and is a great reference:

http://www.ak47bayonets.com/




WOW some of those look brand new, very nice pics.
Thanks for the info.
Link Posted: 10/10/2009 7:08:44 PM EDT
[#5]
are the bulgarin bayonets currently offered at kvar current issue? what do you Bayonet guys think of those?

interesting thread
Link Posted: 10/10/2009 8:14:29 PM EDT
[#6]
Tennessee Guns Int. has some like new Bulgarian bayonets on their website. I may sell my Russian bayo soon. I want a Bulgarian for my Bulgarian gun.
Link Posted: 10/11/2009 6:43:11 AM EDT
[#7]
Beware the bayonet bug; it will cost you money and headaches!
Link Posted: 10/11/2009 8:14:11 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
I noticed both are dull, can they be sharpened or is that frowned upon for these weapons.


i've never seen an AK bayonet that would hold an edge. That's doesn't make much difference, since the only useful function of a bayonet is to convert the rifle into a marker which alerts others to the location of the former user.

Link Posted: 10/11/2009 9:28:57 AM EDT
[#9]
As for the AK bayonets, they can be made to hold and edge but not for very long.  Seems the angle you have to put on the blade doesn't allow for keeping the edge real sharp.  At any rate, they weren't design to be sharp, anyway.  The dull blade makes for uglier gashes when thrust into flesh and tissue.
Link Posted: 10/11/2009 10:31:01 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
As for the AK bayonets, they can be made to hold and edge but not for very long.  Seems the angle you have to put on the blade doesn't allow for keeping the edge real sharp.  At any rate, they weren't design to be sharp, anyway.  The dull blade makes for uglier gashes when thrust into flesh and tissue.


Yeah I just asked because they look more like a survival type knife, and they do have a type of edge to them, not like those older type of bayos. I just wanted to make sure I didnt get a dull one, but when I got the second one it was the same.
Ive also seen swords come dull too so I was just confused.

Is there any cheap way to slightly polish the scabbard and handle, it seems really dull compared to the pics above, I can tell its worn looking closely at it. I was thinking a buffer wheel with a car wax or something.
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