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Posted: 8/19/2004 5:37:45 PM EDT
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There is one. It is an East German Sniper rifle. SSG-82 IIRC. It was a poor design, and made to shoot the RWS made ammo exclusivly.
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Posted: 8/19/2004 6:01:08 PM EDT
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You could allways have one custom made..
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Posted: 8/19/2004 9:27:29 PM EDT
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I thought about doing one on a Savage Mod 10 FP. The Savage barrels are very easy to switch and it would make a cool switch barrel combo. Never persued it further than that...
So many projects and such little time KyARGuy |
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Posted: 8/19/2004 9:41:30 PM EDT
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Use a Sako action, you can buy them specifically sized for 5.45, 7.62 and 5.56mm. All of these rounds are similar in length.
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Posted: 8/19/2004 11:23:11 PM EDT
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A custom job sounds really expensive.
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Posted: 8/20/2004 2:44:27 AM EDT
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So do you guys think that 5.45x39 would work on a .223 short action?
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Posted: 8/20/2004 4:53:14 AM EDT
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GREAT IDEA !!!!!! I AM A GUN SHOP MANAGER HERE IN CENTRAL FL.. I CALLED H&R FOR THEIR HANDI-RIFLE TO BE CHAMBERED IN 7.62X39 AND 5.45X39 WOULD MAKE A GREAT LITTLE RIFLE. THEY GOT BACK TO ME AND STATED THAT THERE IS NOT A SAAMI SPEC. FOLLOWED BY THE OLD MANUFACTURES OF THESE ROUNDS AND THAT THE ASSUALT RIFLE CHAMBERS ARE REALLY LOOSE SPECS. ALSO THE STEEL CASED AMMO WOULD CREATE PROBLEMS, THEY DON'T NEED.
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Posted: 8/20/2004 6:43:01 AM EDT
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Ain't it the truth........ |
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Posted: 8/20/2004 7:49:23 AM EDT
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www.lothar-walther.com/english/barrels_metric.htm
Makes 5.45 barrels. www.clymertool.com/welcome.html Makes 5.45x39mm chamber reamers and headspace guages. A 223 case has a .378 rim diameter and the 5.45 has a .393 rim. So the bolt face and magazine may need to be opened up and the exstractor might need some work also. |
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Posted: 8/20/2004 2:54:09 PM EDT
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the ssg-82 has a trigger that is prone to breaking. it does shoot wolf 5.45.
at $800 and up, it is a collector item, imo. the problem with building a bolt action 5.45 is the lack of ammunition variety. still, it would be nice if cz or izhevsk/ihzmash offered the chambering in a mid-level bolt action sporter. the savage conversion sounds smart. |
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Posted: 8/20/2004 3:20:12 PM EDT
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Well it is nice to see that I'm not the only one interested in a bolt gun in 5.45X39.
I have three Veprs in this caliber and I really would like to get a bolt gun in this caliber. Oh well maybe someday! Thanks for all the input. 43E1P |
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Posted: 8/20/2004 4:04:50 PM EDT
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I think it would be a bitchin bolt gun. There is a SSG82 in a shop here in town but its over $900 and didnt look too durable plus the scope mounts were odd. Id also like to build a 5.45 bolt gun.
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Posted: 8/20/2004 6:39:04 PM EDT
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I would like to have a nice Remington 700 in 5.45, but I still do not think it is a viable option for commercial marketing.
The caliber is still largly unknown outside the group of shooters that we make up. Ammo is not easy to find everywhere, i.e., in every gun shop. .223 offers a wider range of ammo, and is more versitile. Many bolt guns do not like steel cases, although this can be remedied. (More cost) No commercial manufacturing of the round. This is enough to kill it here. If it isn't being made here, there is a reason. ($) Lastly, many common calibers are based on similar bolt face dimentions. Rifles with different bolt face dementions are not commnly made. Best example is the 6.5 X 55 Swedish Mauser. In the top 10 of popular calibers, but only a Remington for 1 year, and only commonly made rifle is a POS, overpriced Ruger. Tooling up for something new of limited appeal is a tough call to make. Maybe someday, but not soon. Especially if the ammo imports are legislated out of exsistance. |
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Posted: 8/21/2004 3:22:16 AM EDT
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A remington 700 action is exactly what I was thinking.
As for availability of the ammo I have never had a problem with getting a hold of Barnaul or Wolf as for the ammo being manufactured here in the US well did anybody here ever think that they would see 7.62x39 in a Winchester red box or 7.62x54R in a Black Hills box? I do think it is a matter of time and as usual I'm not very patient. It seems like the intrest is there for a bolt rifle in 5.45x39 my preference would be one with a heavy barrel so I plan on e-mailing the piss out the major gun and ammo manufactures alike and see what happens. Thanks again for taking the time to post your replys. 43E1P |
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Posted: 8/21/2004 4:27:13 AM EDT
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Let us know what they say.
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Posted: 8/21/2004 6:46:59 AM EDT
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If suitable barrels were available I would consider usesing one of the following as a starting point:
A bolt gun chambered in 22 or 6 PPC - bolt face should be close to 5.45 A CZ 527 cambered in 7.62X39 A Wuger chambered in 7.62X39 |
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Posted: 8/21/2004 10:05:32 AM EDT
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YES! The rounds' dimentions are very similar. All you'd need to modify on a .223 bolt-gun is re-barrel (can't re-chamber, 5.45 fire .220 bullets), re-face the bolt and modify the extractor to accomodate a slightly wider casing. Edit: if you want to reload ammo (for accuracy), from what I've been reading, you need to take whatever .224 bullet you plan to use, and use a ring-die to bring the diameter down to acceptable size. Of course since nobody makes a reloadable casing for 5.45, you'll have to pull cheap Russian ammo and use those primed cases. |
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