PCC. Blade or brace legal or not? - Page 1

CTjer Member Joined Sep 2015 Posts 1681 EE 100% (21) CT, USA	Posted: 10/15/2017 5:21:52 PM EDT I've heard both. That, YES, a brace is legal and that, NO, it's not legal. Does anyone have the ruling on that? I'd love to build a PCC rig because it looks like a fun shoot, but living where i do presents some hurdles. Building a PCC from an 80% and using a brace.....instead of a stock, gets me around that hurdle.

casarez Member Joined Sep 2014 Posts 395 EE 100% (30) VA, USA	Posted: 10/15/2017 11:38:11 PM EDT [#1] USPSA BoD ruled not allowed. Weapon is still a pistol in that configuration. The PCC division is supposed to be for carbines and rifles only. The other divisions are for pistols.

wtturn Joined Dec 2008 Posts 19897 EE 100% (72) USA	Posted: 10/16/2017 6:35:01 AM EDT [#2] Not legal

pepe-lepew Joined Feb 2009 Posts 2109 EE 100% (2) OR, USA	Posted: 10/17/2017 10:35:16 PM EDT [#3] Quote History Originally Posted By wtturn: Not legal View Quote How about, " Not per the rules."

ALASKANFIRE Member Joined Jul 2007 Posts 18416 EE 100% (5) NV, USA	Posted: 10/17/2017 10:51:16 PM EDT [#4] Quote History Originally Posted By pepe-lepew: How about, " Not per the rules." View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quote History Originally Posted By pepe-lepew: Originally Posted By wtturn: Not legal How about, " Not per the rules." That's what he said why mince words
	swingset No one wants to eat right and exercise, and lower their stress levels, all of which will come in a lot more handy than a home defense carbine and chest rig ANIMUS Rude pricks need a serious traumatic life experience

steve8140 Member Joined Nov 2009 Posts 1242 EE 100% (87) MA, USA	Posted: 11/19/2017 2:11:38 PM EDT [#5] Not legal per the rules, but I’d bet some local clubs would allow you to use a blade.
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wtturn Joined Dec 2008 Posts 19925 EE 100% (72) USA	Posted: 11/20/2017 4:46:55 PM EDT [#6] Quote History Originally Posted By steve8140: Not legal per the rules, but I'd bet some local clubs would allow you to use a blade. View Quote maybe for no score.

3-gun Member Joined Jan 2001 Posts 7491 EE 100% (5) AL, USA	Posted: 1/3/2019 1:19:21 AM EDT [#7] you can't shoot a pistol in a carbine class.
	" Don't cry, nobody shoots Glocks anymore." "But the new Admin. is a Master in IDPA" "MASTER in IDPA..." "is like C Class in IPSC!"

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Posted: 1/3/2019 1:24:18 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By wtturn:
maybe for no score.

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Originally Posted By wtturn:

Originally Posted By steve8140:
Not legal per the rules, but I'd bet some local clubs would allow you to use a blade.

maybe for no score.

Maybe after the match. The rules say no braced pistols, so no.

" Don't cry, nobody shoots Glocks anymore."

"But the new Admin. is a Master in IDPA"
"MASTER in IDPA..."

"is like C Class in IPSC!"

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Posted: 1/28/2019 11:55:14 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By CTjer:
I've heard both. That, YES, a brace is legal and that, NO, it's not legal.

Does anyone have the ruling on that?

I'd love to build a PCC rig because it looks like a fun shoot, but living where i do presents some hurdles. Building a PCC from an 80% and using a brace.....instead of a stock, gets me around that hurdle.

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This reminds me of a local match, five guys standing around talking about how something should be ruled. Let me be that guy that opens the rule book. No Sig braces or variants, 2019 USPSA Rulebook Appendix D8 #6

Now if you read on in the rulebook pistols are allowed in PCC when configured to a SBR or carbine. You can find that in the 2019 USPSA Rulebook Appendix D8 #6 and special condition #1 and #2.

jeepinbanditrider Member Joined Sep 2007 Posts 2407 EE 100% (27) TX, USA	Posted: 2/18/2020 9:29:54 AM EDT [#10] IMO stuff like this is why there's been a proliferation of "outlaw" matches that are very similar to USPSA or IDPA but operate with a greatly reduced rule set.
	"One day you may find me laying face down in a ditch................but I'll be laying on a pile of empty brass!"

m4hk33 Member Joined Jul 2003 Posts 9364 EE 98% (66) KWT	Posted: 2/18/2020 9:41:23 AM EDT [Last Edit: m4hk33] [#11] Rules legal or atf legal?

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Posted: 2/18/2020 10:28:18 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By jeepinbanditrider:
IMO stuff like this is why there's been a proliferation of "outlaw" matches that are very similar to USPSA or IDPA but operate with a greatly reduced rule set.

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Non of which have anywhere close to the participants or overall membership level. The rules can be frustrating but at their core most of them are there to make the competition better in one way or another.

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Superluckycat Member Joined Sep 2006 Posts 5800 EE 100% (176) IN, USA	Posted: 2/20/2020 3:44:47 PM EDT [#13] Quote History Originally Posted By jeepinbanditrider: IMO stuff like this is why there's been a proliferation of "outlaw" matches that are very similar to USPSA or IDPA but operate with a greatly reduced rule set. View Quote USPSA rules aren't that onerous. Now IDPA on the other hand......

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