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Posted: 1/15/2023 2:35:30 PM EST
cheap. Apparently some places you can get it for free. I would like to get some for my trauma bag. While I have never encountered an OD, I have given CPR and administered basic FA in a few horrific accidents. My hope is to never use it. What direction can some of you EMS people recommend? THANKS
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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/15/2023 2:38:01 PM EST
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Maybe just let the druggy OD
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Posted: 1/15/2023 2:40:20 PM EST
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In Utah, I think all public libraries have it available for free. No questions asked.
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Posted: 1/15/2023 2:44:13 PM EST
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Posted: 1/15/2023 3:09:22 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By medicmandan: https://mcrsp.org/get-help/where-to-get-narcannaloxone.html Thank you, I put in a request and showed my credentials that are online. Thanks for the link. |
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Posted: 1/15/2023 3:10:28 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dustymathes: Maybe just let the druggy OD That's a general discussion response. I personally know 3 parents who lost their kids to this. I cannot do that. |
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Posted: 1/15/2023 3:17:07 PM EST
[Last Edit: michigan66]
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Thing is if they OD on xylazine/tranq it doesn't seem to work.
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Posted: 1/15/2023 3:41:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By michigan66: Thing is if they OD on xylazine/tranq it doesn't seem to work. Naloxone only works on opiate overdoses. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 1/15/2023 3:56:44 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dustymathes: Maybe just let the druggy OD Sometimes it’s an older person or someone who didn’t fully understand the prescription and how much of a prescribed opiate such as OxyContin to take. It’s expensive but if you go to your local EMS post and explain what you want and why they may have some they can give you. |
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Posted: 1/15/2023 4:32:43 PM EST
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When they filled my wife's Oxy/Apap 5/325 scrip they gave us a dose of narcan to go with it, free of charge.
Depends on what and where, I guess. |
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Posted: 1/15/2023 7:08:53 PM EST
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Maybe it’s someone who accidentally was dosed with fentanyl there, my man. Real tough talk
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Posted: 1/16/2023 1:23:20 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By michigan66: Thing is if they OD on xylazine/tranq it doesn't seem to work. It is an opiate antagonist. Will not work on anything else. |
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Posted: 1/16/2023 1:24:12 AM EST
[Last Edit: medicmandan]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kskvetski: Maybe it’s someone who accidentally was dosed with fentanyl there, my man. Real tough talk Been a few stories recently of cops overdosing during arrests and needing narcan. ETA: https://www.kktv.com/2022/12/15/graphic-police-help-save-officer-fentanyl-overdose-during-traffic-stop/ |
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Posted: 1/16/2023 1:26:38 AM EST
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The kits I get from the hospital are injectable. I would prefer intranasal but that's what they give us. I keep two in the office emergency bag with our AED and tourniquets.
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Posted: 1/16/2023 1:51:10 AM EST
[Last Edit: D_J]
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Originally Posted By yodude: cheap. Apparently some places you can get it for free. I would like to get some for my trauma bag. While I have never encountered an OD, I have given CPR and administered basic FA in a few horrific accidents. My hope is to never use it. What direction can some of you EMS people recommend? THANKS @medicmandan, I think I got this right. Ga DPH has a standing letter of authorization for EMS. I just show my ID & insurance card (for pricing) and get it for $15 at any pharmacy. Originally Posted By medicmandan: The kits I get from the hospital are injectable. I would prefer intranasal but that's what they give us. I keep two in the office emergency bag with our AED and tourniquets. Intranasal here. |
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Posted: 1/16/2023 1:53:31 AM EST
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Posted: 1/16/2023 1:56:04 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Z09SS: When they filled my wife's Oxy/Apap 5/325 scrip they gave us a dose of narcan to go with it, free of charge. Depends on what and where, I guess. interesting. you’d die from the tylenol well before you got enough opiates in you with that dosage. that shit will shut down your liver, quick. |
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Posted: 1/16/2023 2:04:41 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ElliotAbrahms: interesting. you’d die from the tylenol well before you got enough opiates in you with that dosage. that shit will shut down your liver, quick. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ElliotAbrahms: Originally Posted By Z09SS: When they filled my wife's Oxy/Apap 5/325 scrip they gave us a dose of narcan to go with it, free of charge. Depends on what and where, I guess. interesting. you’d die from the tylenol well before you got enough opiates in you with that dosage. that shit will shut down your liver, quick. She figured that liver damage would hit her long before she'd need narcan. She's about recovered from the shoulder replacement now, and we still have that dose of narcan. |
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Posted: 1/16/2023 8:14:51 AM EST
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Quote HistoryYup. Naloxone ain’t chicken soup. It definitely has its place in the treatment of opioid overdose or diagnostically for unconsciousness of unknown etiology but there needs to be either a viable index of suspicion or clinical signs before we just start squirting repeated doses in noses. |
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UT, USA
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Posted: 7/15/2023 8:11:06 PM EST
[Last Edit: redman797]
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Depends on state, UT here, but you can very often find MFG websites or programs that will send you a free 2-pack of 4mg nasal sprays. I received a Narcan brand 2-pack free, and like was mentioned above, if you live in UT, you can go to any public library and they give you a vial and syringe no questions asked, 1 per person, per day.
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Posted: 7/15/2023 8:17:47 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dustymathes: Maybe just let the druggy OD Find your way back to GD, troll. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 9/12/2023 3:01:12 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By medicmandan: Been a few stories recently of cops overdosing during arrests and needing narcan. ETA: https://www.kktv.com/2022/12/15/graphic-police-help-save-officer-fentanyl-overdose-during-traffic-stop/ Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By medicmandan: Originally Posted By Kskvetski: Maybe it’s someone who accidentally was dosed with fentanyl there, my man. Real tough talk Been a few stories recently of cops overdosing during arrests and needing narcan. ETA: https://www.kktv.com/2022/12/15/graphic-police-help-save-officer-fentanyl-overdose-during-traffic-stop/ These are generally just anxiety attacks and/or a form a conversion disorder. The media reports you hear of law enforcement OD on fentanyl generally describe symptoms that are opposite of opioid overdoses. Also, I've yet to here of any these cases being confirmed with a UDS or serum studies. |
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Posted: 10/24/2023 2:43:30 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Nate19: Find your way back to GD, troll. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Nate19: Originally Posted By dustymathes: Maybe just let the druggy OD Find your way back to GD, troll. It's a sentiment that won't be aired publicly but you'll hear from time to time in the break room at the ER or bullshitting with full time medics. We spend a lot of time taking care of people who dgaf about their own lives and it gets old. Yes it's valuable to have for the 3yo who gets into grandma's "stickers" (fentanyl patches), but when you get sprayed with HIV+ blood as the druggie rips out his ivs and starts swinging on everyone he sees after being narcan'ed for the 3rd time in 2 days you can understand the frustration that leads some to begin to question the easy access we provide. Not saying it's right, but I get how they get there and dismissing it as trolling is perhaps valid, but also perhaps not fully appreciating reality. |
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USA
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Posted: 10/24/2023 2:50:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StillGonnaSendIt: Sometimes it’s an older person or someone who didn’t fully understand the prescription and how much of a prescribed opiate such as OxyContin to take. It’s expensive but if you go to your local EMS post and explain what you want and why they may have some they can give you. Sounds as common as the Democrats saying gramma is down to eating cat food. |
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