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6/25/2018 7:04:05 PM
Posted: 7/8/2018 10:51:42 PM EDT
What kind of accuracy are you guys getting out of your tack driver gas guns when feeding them cheap ammo? Specifically PPU M80 manila colored box or say armscor or PMC bronze? Does your other wise sub moa or better with FGMM turn to a 2, 3, maybe even 4 moa gun?
Link Posted: 7/8/2018 11:56:01 PM EDT
PPU ball is amazingly accurate out of my rifle, the other one likes it as well. The one that has a stainless match barrel that is easily sub MOA likes it too, I can get 2 -2.5 MOA out of it at 100 yards most of the time.
Link Posted: 7/9/2018 1:10:15 AM EDT
Sub MOA at 100 with 175 otm ammo. Never bothered to check accuracy of ball at 100. But at 200 yards with a red dot I see 2-4 MOA with XM80. Honestly it was better than I expected.
Link Posted: 7/11/2018 3:31:36 AM EDT
My 22" JP .308 with my pet load is 1/2 moa easy with 175gr. If I shoot factory 147gr M80 stuff and it's a fucking shotgun. I get alittle better groups (2ish moa) with PPU. But dear god.. it HATES 147s
Link Posted: 7/11/2018 12:11:01 PM EDT
Ok cool that leads me to believe it's the ammo, not the gun. Will try some federal gmm this weekend and see how things go.
Link Posted: 7/12/2018 9:41:10 AM EDT
Link Posted: 7/13/2018 11:38:31 AM EDT
Omg what a difference. I knew it was there was an accuracy difference, just didn't realize it was that significant.
Link Posted: 7/15/2018 1:19:33 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By azmp5:
My 22" JP .308 with my pet load is 1/2 moa easy with 175gr. If I shoot factory 147gr M80 stuff and it's a fucking shotgun. I get alittle better groups (2ish moa) with PPU. But dear god.. it HATES 147s
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I have the same barrel. It, too HATES 147 grain flat base.....BUT....if you use PMC Bronze 147 grains BOAT TAIL....it's actually a very respectable shooter.

Give some a try and tell me if you have the same experience.
Link Posted: 7/15/2018 1:50:30 AM EDT
my new tikka t3x .223 varmint was doing 4" groups with cheap no name bulk 55g. I was less than pleased my dads 181 series mini 14 was shooting better. and my larue stealth was also shooting better.
Link Posted: 7/15/2018 5:23:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By desertmoon:
I have the same barrel. It, too HATES 147 grain flat base.....BUT....if you use PMC Bronze 147 grains BOAT TAIL....it's actually a very respectable shooter.

Give some a try and tell me if you have the same experience.
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Originally Posted By azmp5:
My 22" JP .308 with my pet load is 1/2 moa easy with 175gr. If I shoot factory 147gr M80 stuff and it's a fucking shotgun. I get alittle better groups (2ish moa) with PPU. But dear god.. it HATES 147s
I have the same barrel. It, too HATES 147 grain flat base.....BUT....if you use PMC Bronze 147 grains BOAT TAIL....it's actually a very respectable shooter.

Give some a try and tell me if you have the same experience.
I'll pick up a box next time I'm out and let you know.
Link Posted: 7/15/2018 11:40:01 PM EDT
Link Posted: Today 10:42:44 AM EDT
My .223 goes from .9 moa to 2 moa with my plinker load. The 6.5G goes from .8moa to 1.2 moa with my plinker load.

My Grendel plinker load uses better bullets(twice the cost) than the .223 load so it makes sense that there is less of a difference on the Grendel.

My plinker loads are thrown together handloads with zero development. The only factory ammo I buy is cheap Bimetal jacket stuff and don't want to shoot it through these guns.
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