Ruger Precision Rifle (Page 12 of 90)
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My 6.5 from DEguns got here Tuesday. Shot it Wednesday morning with Hornady 140 AMAX. I made a video with the results and some chrono data here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crHUhGuBc14 I put one of the $60 Surefire Pro Comps on it and worked great. I use APA Little Bastard II brakes on my other rifles but wanted something slimmer to match the barrel on the RPR. The Surefire did the trick. I mounted it with shims instead of a crush washer it came with. I am very happy with the rifle and a little amazed it puts the same bullets in the same groups as my $4000 SAC build. Just have to see how it holds up over time but so far its the heat. |
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Originally Posted By ziarifleman: $1000 and its shooting like a Short Action Custom? Awesome. Gotta start making barrels for these. The build quality is the difference between a BMW and a Ford compared to the RPR and under hard use I feel like the Ruger would be in pieces before the SAC would ever slow down but at least in this one very small sample size when it comes to shooting groups at 100 with factory ammo the Ruger is right there. I have to add I am far from the best tiny group shooter but I was impressed with the Rugers results. |
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Originally Posted By JCIN: My 6.5 from DEguns got here Tuesday. Shot it Wednesday morning with Hornady 140 AMAX. I made a video with the results and some chrono data here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crHUhGuBc14 I put one of the $60 Surefire Pro Comps on it and worked great. I use APA Little Bastard II brakes on my other rifles but wanted something slimmer to match the barrel on the RPR. The Surefire did the trick. I mounted it with shims instead of a crush washer it came with. I am very happy with the rifle and a little amazed it puts the same bullets in the same groups as my $4000 SAC build. Just have to see how it holds up over time but so far its the heat. There seems to be a group of people who are upset about how week the RPR is actually shooting. The reviews coming from the people who have shot them have been great. |
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| My main concern is whether the RPR can be made into a better rifle once a person that has shot it awhile and is ready to step up a bit. I know Ruger said that the barrels are changeable. Could it be a nice rifle to customize down the road? If so, then this could be a nice starter precision rifle as advertised then built up when the shooter is ready. Guess time will tell if/when 3rd parties start making aftermarket parts. If it is not, might as well save the pennies for a GAP or similar. My gripe is the short barrel for the 308, which I like. Already asked ruger if they will accept special orders and the answer was no. In the mean time, keep those range reports coming. |
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Originally Posted By Bearcat24: My main concern is whether the RPR can be made into a better rifle once a person that has shot it awhile and is ready to step up a bit. I know Ruger said that the barrels are changeable. Could it be a nice rifle to customize down the road? If so, then this could be a nice starter precision rifle as advertised then built up when the shooter is ready. Guess time will tell if/when 3rd parties start making aftermarket parts. If it is not, might as well save the pennies for a GAP or similar. My gripe is the short barrel for the 308, which I like. Already asked ruger if they will accept special orders and the answer was no. In the mean time, keep those range reports coming. What do you think would make it better? I'm sure there will be solid replacement barrel options for it very soon. Other than that I can't really think of anything that needs done to it. If you want a better fit and finish you're better off going the custom route. I'm very happy with mine for the price point. Accuracy wise to they shoot better than many shooters are even capable of. Contrary to what many people claim their aren't people shooting sub MOA with most factory Remington's. |
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Originally Posted By JCIN:
My 6.5 from DEguns got here Tuesday. Shot it Wednesday morning with Hornady 140 AMAX. I made a video with the results and some chrono data here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crHUhGuBc14 I put one of the $60 Surefire Pro Comps on it and worked great. I use APA Little Bastard II brakes on my other rifles but wanted something slimmer to match the barrel on the RPR. The Surefire did the trick. I mounted it with shims instead of a crush washer it came with. I am very happy with the rifle and a little amazed it puts the same bullets in the same groups as my $4000 SAC build. Just have to see how it holds up over time but so far its the heat. If you look back on page 9. You can see my velocities on the hornady amax 140. Mine don't look as fast as your results witht the same magneto speed chronograph. So, what sensitivity did you have your set to? Mine? Whatever it came with factory. Thanks |
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I know nothing about precision rifles.
I do know this, the first instance where I come across one of these in a store or shop at $999 or less and in 6.5, I WILL BUY IT. Probably wont be for a year or more since they are so hot. Ruger has been putting out some very hot, innovated and fun products lately. I would have never thought I would ever have any interest in such a rifle, which proves how well Ruger is at attracting customers. |
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Well I did it! Put an order in yesterday afternoon for a 6.5. My new favorite crack dealer said none of her distributors had any in stock but we're expecting them soon. She'd called earlier because someone else had asked earlier.
$899! I can wait a bit for that. Especially since I want to clear out some unused things in the back of the safe. They'll fund the scope and accessories. |
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Originally Posted By delirious1: If you look back on page 9. You can see my velocities on the hornady amax 140. Mine don't look as fast as your results witht the same magneto speed chronograph. So, what sensitivity did you have your set to? Mine? Whatever it came with factory. Thanks Originally Posted By delirious1: Originally Posted By JCIN: My 6.5 from DEguns got here Tuesday. Shot it Wednesday morning with Hornady 140 AMAX. I made a video with the results and some chrono data here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crHUhGuBc14 I put one of the $60 Surefire Pro Comps on it and worked great. I use APA Little Bastard II brakes on my other rifles but wanted something slimmer to match the barrel on the RPR. The Surefire did the trick. I mounted it with shims instead of a crush washer it came with. I am very happy with the rifle and a little amazed it puts the same bullets in the same groups as my $4000 SAC build. Just have to see how it holds up over time but so far its the heat. If you look back on page 9. You can see my velocities on the hornady amax 140. Mine don't look as fast as your results witht the same magneto speed chronograph. So, what sensitivity did you have your set to? Mine? Whatever it came with factory. Thanks |
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Originally Posted By JCIN:
I have not changed the sensitivity since I took it out of the box. I'll know for sure if the speed is right when I take it out to distance. So far the magneto speed has has been good with other distance verified loads. Originally Posted By JCIN:
Originally Posted By delirious1: If you look back on page 9. You can see my velocities on the hornady amax 140. Mine don't look as fast as your results witht the same magneto speed chronograph. So, what sensitivity did you have your set to? Mine? Whatever it came with factory. Thanks I have not changed the sensitivity since I took it out of the box. I'll know for sure if the speed is right when I take it out to distance. So far the magneto speed has has been good with other distance verified loads. Altitude? |
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Originally Posted By Bearcat24: My main concern is whether the RPR can be made into a better rifle once a person that has shot it awhile and is ready to step up a bit. I know Ruger said that the barrels are changeable. Could it be a nice rifle to customize down the road? If so, then this could be a nice starter precision rifle as advertised then built up when the shooter is ready. Guess time will tell if/when 3rd parties start making aftermarket parts. If it is not, might as well save the pennies for a GAP or similar. My gripe is the short barrel for the 308, which I like. Already asked ruger if they will accept special orders and the answer was no. In the mean time, keep those range reports coming. This thing is a legit $1000ish half MOA gun or at least mine is. You get a whole rifle for what most good chassis systems cost.I have no desire to put more money in my gun. I am just going to shoot the hell out of it and by the time the barrel is toast new ones will be available. I have/had rifles from GAP and SAC. If thats what a guy wants thats what they should get. The RPR is not that and wont ever be that. It is a great way to shoot accurately for not a lot of money. |
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Originally Posted By backbencher: Altitude? Originally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By JCIN: Originally Posted By delirious1: If you look back on page 9. You can see my velocities on the hornady amax 140. Mine don't look as fast as your results witht the same magneto speed chronograph. So, what sensitivity did you have your set to? Mine? Whatever it came with factory. Thanks I have not changed the sensitivity since I took it out of the box. I'll know for sure if the speed is right when I take it out to distance. So far the magneto speed has has been good with other distance verified loads. Altitude? |
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Originally Posted By JCIN:
I edited my post to say. Right around 3000 ft and it was about 100 degrees out when I filmed. Originally Posted By JCIN:
Originally Posted By backbencher:
Originally Posted By JCIN:
Originally Posted By delirious1: If you look back on page 9. You can see my velocities on the hornady amax 140. Mine don't look as fast as your results witht the same magneto speed chronograph. So, what sensitivity did you have your set to? Mine? Whatever it came with factory. Thanks I have not changed the sensitivity since I took it out of the box. I'll know for sure if the speed is right when I take it out to distance. So far the magneto speed has has been good with other distance verified loads. Altitude? I edited my post to say. Right around 3000 ft and it was about 100 degrees out when I filmed. delirious is pushing more air down in Texas than you are. That may explain his different results. |
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Originally Posted By backbencher:
delirious is pushing more air down in Texas than you are. That may explain his different results. Originally Posted By backbencher:
Originally Posted By JCIN:
Originally Posted By backbencher:
Originally Posted By JCIN:
Originally Posted By delirious1: If you look back on page 9. You can see my velocities on the hornady amax 140. Mine don't look as fast as your results witht the same magneto speed chronograph. So, what sensitivity did you have your set to? Mine? Whatever it came with factory. Thanks I have not changed the sensitivity since I took it out of the box. I'll know for sure if the speed is right when I take it out to distance. So far the magneto speed has has been good with other distance verified loads. Altitude? I edited my post to say. Right around 3000 ft and it was about 100 degrees out when I filmed. delirious is pushing more air down in Texas than you are. That may explain his different results. 450-550 feet in dallas. Ok, makes sense to me |
| Nice quick review. Didn't think it would be a GAP but just curious on upgrade potential. From what I have read so far, seems the barrel would be the thing to change for a little better upgrade. A few don't like the rail and some posts don't like the trigger but livable with current. My real only gripe is why only a 20 inch barrel for 308. By the time I possibly get one, barrels should be out. You folks doing reviews are doing a great job informing folks on the fence. Keep up the good work. |
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Originally Posted By jimmyc2112:
Has anyone, that purchased the rifle. Contacted Ruger about what can or can't be done with handguards? I contacted them to ask which model number aics magazine fit and was told an engineer would contact me last Monday. I'm still waiting. Not impressed with them. I got the information for aics instead. Good luck |
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Originally Posted By TeeRex:
What do you think would make it better? I'm sure there will be solid replacement barrel options for it very soon. Other than that I can't really think of anything that needs done to it. If you want a better fit and finish you're better off going the custom route. I'm very happy with mine for the price point. Accuracy wise to they shoot better than many shooters are even capable of. Contrary to what many people claim their aren't people shooting sub MOA with most factory Remington's. Originally Posted By TeeRex:
Originally Posted By Bearcat24:
My main concern is whether the RPR can be made into a better rifle once a person that has shot it awhile and is ready to step up a bit. I know Ruger said that the barrels are changeable. Could it be a nice rifle to customize down the road? If so, then this could be a nice starter precision rifle as advertised then built up when the shooter is ready. Guess time will tell if/when 3rd parties start making aftermarket parts. If it is not, might as well save the pennies for a GAP or similar. My gripe is the short barrel for the 308, which I like. Already asked ruger if they will accept special orders and the answer was no. In the mean time, keep those range reports coming. What do you think would make it better? I'm sure there will be solid replacement barrel options for it very soon. Other than that I can't really think of anything that needs done to it. If you want a better fit and finish you're better off going the custom route. I'm very happy with mine for the price point. Accuracy wise to they shoot better than many shooters are even capable of. Contrary to what many people claim their aren't people shooting sub MOA with most factory Remington's. I bought mine knowing their may be limitations but the value and price point made the RPR a great way to get into "precision" at a fraction of the cost. I've ordered a Vortex Razor HD 5-20x50, I'll change out the grip and I'll consider a different rail if it's ever offered. |
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I have not changed the sensitivity since I took it out of the box. I'll know for sure if the speed is right when I take it out to distance. So far the magneto speed has has been good with other distance verified loads.
I edited my post to say. Right around 3000 ft and it was about 100 degrees out when I filmed. delirious is pushing more air down in Texas than you are. That may explain his different results. 450-550 feet in dallas. Ok, makes sense to me I was shooting at 4395ft in the black hills. With the magneto speed we were clocking 2685, at 85 deg F. I figured it would have been higher. I'll add both 6.5s were within 10 fps of each other. 140 amaxs. I thought it was super slow, but put the info into strelok and rang the 1000 yard gong repeatedly. Edit:goofednup everyone's quoted, stupid phone |
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Originally Posted By delirious1:
AICS mags came in. Wasn't sure how tall the 10 round would be but is perfect. I also purchased a 5 round. They go in and come out like butter. Wish the RPR came with them. I loaded up a dummy round that was 0.015 off my lands or 2.89 OAL. As advertised, these will do well at 2.88 or smaller. 2.89 fit but jammed. <a href="http://s263.photobucket.com/user/freedell/media/ar/19CDF3D1-B957-408F-8B36-74C6E28D7B9E_zpswuxrwnz6.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii127/freedell/ar/19CDF3D1-B957-408F-8B36-74C6E28D7B9E_zpswuxrwnz6.jpg</a> <a href="http://s263.photobucket.com/user/freedell/media/ar/97CCEDBA-3C62-46BD-B9E0-C3EC5647A596_zps9g8vhcjc.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii127/freedell/ar/97CCEDBA-3C62-46BD-B9E0-C3EC5647A596_zps9g8vhcjc.jpg</a> Did you decide on a taller set of rings yet? |
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
Did you decide on a taller set of rings yet? Originally Posted By Defender3:
Originally Posted By delirious1:
AICS mags came in. Wasn't sure how tall the 10 round would be but is perfect. I also purchased a 5 round. They go in and come out like butter. Wish the RPR came with them. I loaded up a dummy round that was 0.015 off my lands or 2.89 OAL. As advertised, these will do well at 2.88 or smaller. 2.89 fit but jammed. <a href="http://s263.photobucket.com/user/freedell/media/ar/19CDF3D1-B957-408F-8B36-74C6E28D7B9E_zpswuxrwnz6.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii127/freedell/ar/19CDF3D1-B957-408F-8B36-74C6E28D7B9E_zpswuxrwnz6.jpg</a> <a href="http://s263.photobucket.com/user/freedell/media/ar/97CCEDBA-3C62-46BD-B9E0-C3EC5647A596_zps9g8vhcjc.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii127/freedell/ar/97CCEDBA-3C62-46BD-B9E0-C3EC5647A596_zps9g8vhcjc.jpg</a> Did you decide on a taller set of rings yet? It felt ok at the range. Badger ordinance was the only set I could find that would work. I just don't think I want to pay what they are asking. Any other suggestions on brand? |
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Originally Posted By delirious1:
It felt ok at the range. Badger ordinance was the only set I could find that would work. I just don't think I want to pay what they are asking. Any other suggestions on brand? Originally Posted By delirious1:
Originally Posted By Defender3:
Originally Posted By delirious1:
AICS mags came in. Wasn't sure how tall the 10 round would be but is perfect. I also purchased a 5 round. They go in and come out like butter. Wish the RPR came with them. I loaded up a dummy round that was 0.015 off my lands or 2.89 OAL. As advertised, these will do well at 2.88 or smaller. 2.89 fit but jammed. <a href="http://s263.photobucket.com/user/freedell/media/ar/19CDF3D1-B957-408F-8B36-74C6E28D7B9E_zpswuxrwnz6.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii127/freedell/ar/19CDF3D1-B957-408F-8B36-74C6E28D7B9E_zpswuxrwnz6.jpg</a> <a href="http://s263.photobucket.com/user/freedell/media/ar/97CCEDBA-3C62-46BD-B9E0-C3EC5647A596_zps9g8vhcjc.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii127/freedell/ar/97CCEDBA-3C62-46BD-B9E0-C3EC5647A596_zps9g8vhcjc.jpg</a> Did you decide on a taller set of rings yet? It felt ok at the range. Badger ordinance was the only set I could find that would work. I just don't think I want to pay what they are asking. Any other suggestions on brand? I ordered the same Vortex HD out of MileHigh and they had a special which included a free Spuhr mount so I selected the SP-5002 in 1.50". I'll post some pictures when they arrive. I also have a LaRue LT104 coming that is also at 1.5." |
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
I ordered the same Vortex HD out of MileHigh and they had a special which included a free Spuhr mount so I selected the SP-5002 in 1.50". I'll post some pictures when they arrive. I also have a LaRue LT104 coming that is also at 1.5." Originally Posted By Defender3:
Originally Posted By delirious1:
Originally Posted By Defender3:
Originally Posted By delirious1:
AICS mags came in. Wasn't sure how tall the 10 round would be but is perfect. I also purchased a 5 round. They go in and come out like butter. Wish the RPR came with them. I loaded up a dummy round that was 0.015 off my lands or 2.89 OAL. As advertised, these will do well at 2.88 or smaller. 2.89 fit but jammed. <a href="http://s263.photobucket.com/user/freedell/media/ar/19CDF3D1-B957-408F-8B36-74C6E28D7B9E_zpswuxrwnz6.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii127/freedell/ar/19CDF3D1-B957-408F-8B36-74C6E28D7B9E_zpswuxrwnz6.jpg</a> <a href="http://s263.photobucket.com/user/freedell/media/ar/97CCEDBA-3C62-46BD-B9E0-C3EC5647A596_zps9g8vhcjc.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii127/freedell/ar/97CCEDBA-3C62-46BD-B9E0-C3EC5647A596_zps9g8vhcjc.jpg</a> Did you decide on a taller set of rings yet? It felt ok at the range. Badger ordinance was the only set I could find that would work. I just don't think I want to pay what they are asking. Any other suggestions on brand? I ordered the same Vortex HD out of MileHigh and they had a special which included a free Spuhr mount so I selected the SP-5002 in 1.50". I'll post some pictures when they arrive. I also have a LaRue LT104 coming that is also at 1.5." great. I'll see what you come up with and I am curious to see what the LaRue 1.5 looks like. please post some pictures as soon as you can I purchased the vortex rings from cabelas and have a month to decide. That's a good deal on the vortex and the spuhr. I only paid 1500 shipped for my vortex razor HD 5-20 50mm. |
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Originally Posted By alemonkey:
There's a .243 on Gunbroker right now for $1159 buy it now. I'd do it but I'm holding out for a 6.5. This time next year when the demand and supply is evened out... I'm getting the .243 for sure. |
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Originally Posted By Bowhntr6pt: This time next year when the demand and supply is evened out... I'm getting the .243 for sure. Originally Posted By Bowhntr6pt: Originally Posted By alemonkey: There's a .243 on Gunbroker right now for $1159 buy it now. I'd do it but I'm holding out for a 6.5. This time next year when the demand and supply is evened out... I'm getting the .243 for sure. |
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Originally Posted By alemonkey:
Yeah, I'm willing to pay a little premium to get one now, but not what most of the GB auctions are going for. I'm on a waiting list at the LGS for $1075. Originally Posted By alemonkey:
Originally Posted By Bowhntr6pt:
Originally Posted By alemonkey:
There's a .243 on Gunbroker right now for $1159 buy it now. I'd do it but I'm holding out for a 6.5. This time next year when the demand and supply is evened out... I'm getting the .243 for sure. A local shop here has a 243 for 950.00 been on the shelf for a while. |
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Originally Posted By Mopseydocks6014: So is this all the components that can be replaced with other AR parts?
-Stock -Pistol grip -Safety -Rail Any others that I'm missing? Rail nut/AR-15 bbl nut Stock mount tube/AR receiver extension/buffer tube |
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Originally Posted By TeeRex:
I pushed mine a little harder with H4350 and it pushed it out of the node it was in, and I saw no real velocity gains. I still had no pressure signs at 42.6 grains what would you say your node range ended up being? Mine seemed to be 42 grains. I'm going back and adjusting OAL. I need to get it down beloew 2.88 OAL to fit my AICS mags. Then I'll be happy. |
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Originally Posted By delirious1: what would you say your node range ended up being? Mine seemed to be 42 grains. I'm going back and adjusting OAL. I need to get it down beloew 2.88 OAL to fit my AICS mags. Then I'll be happy. Originally Posted By delirious1: Originally Posted By TeeRex: I pushed mine a little harder with H4350 and it pushed it out of the node it was in, and I saw no real velocity gains. I still had no pressure signs at 42.6 grains what would you say your node range ended up being? Mine seemed to be 42 grains. I'm going back and adjusting OAL. I need to get it down beloew 2.88 OAL to fit my AICS mags. Then I'll be happy. I should have clarified I'm shooting a .243. I can't even load that long. The 243 is happy right around 42 as well. |
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Took the 6.5 out Saturday and played with it on steel out to 924. Basically just goofing around burning up some loads I had sitting around and trying out a new PhoneSkope iphone adaptor for filming through my spotter. It was humid that morning so the camera was able to get some pretty good shots of the trace. Very happy with this rifle so far. I'm going to start working on a load for it this week. Here is the video I made of the trip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pLSptz9fTY |
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Originally Posted By JCIN: Took the 6.5 out Saturday and played with it on steel out to 924. Basically just goofing around burning up some loads I had sitting around and trying out a new PhoneSkope iphone adaptor for filming through my spotter. It was humid that morning so the camera was able to get some pretty good shots of the trace. Very happy with this rifle so far. I'm going to start working on a load for it this week.
Here is the video I made of the trip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pLSptz9fTY
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Originally Posted By snowshooter: For those willing to pay $1300, there is one in .243 at the Cabela's in Hamburg PA. Can reserve it over the phone for 5 days with no cash. Nice looking rifle, but I want one in 6.5 and for less, willing to wait. |
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I talked to Seekins last week and they answered my post in their industry section.
Posted: Today 2:47:57 PM EDT We will have this solution for you as soon as my Ruger rifle gets here. The mounting nut needs to change slightly to allow the hand guard to mount flush with the front of the action. It will install exactly the same as our AR15 hand guard. Looks like this will soon be a go for Seekins handguards. |
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Originally Posted By alemonkey:
The .243's seem to pop up here and there. The 6.5's are unobtanium though. Originally Posted By alemonkey:
Originally Posted By snowshooter:
For those willing to pay $1300, there is one in .243 at the Cabela's in Hamburg PA. Can reserve it over the phone for 5 days with no cash. Nice looking rifle, but I want one in 6.5 and for less, willing to wait. You're more than welcome to shoot mine a bit to solidify the want. I'm taking donations of brass, bullets, and 4350... |
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Originally Posted By Greybeard: So is there any interest in a group buy from the vendors here? Opportunity for a vendor to increase his Ruger volume???? And deal for everyone looking for this rifle through the site. LOL there is no way it would work right now. Vendors are already waiting on guns and the prices aren't going to be lower than what the lowest prices already are. The vendors don't need any help with this gun. |
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Originally Posted By TeeRex:
LOL there is no way it would work right now. Vendors are already waiting on guns and the prices aren't going to be lower than what the lowest prices already are. The vendors don't need any help with this gun. Originally Posted By TeeRex:
Originally Posted By Greybeard:
So is there any interest in a group buy from the vendors here? Opportunity for a vendor to increase his Ruger volume???? And deal for everyone looking for this rifle through the site. LOL there is no way it would work right now. Vendors are already waiting on guns and the prices aren't going to be lower than what the lowest prices already are. The vendors don't need any help with this gun. Us consumers need the help! |























