Ruger Precision Rifle (Page 11 of 90)
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This is the gap you are going to get with pretty much any handguard other than the Samson/Rainier Evo handguards. |
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Originally Posted By CastorTroy:
This is the gap you are going to get with pretty much any handguard other than the Samson/Rainier Evo handguards. http://i.imgur.com/UshPtrZ.jpg I have to say, it's very disappointing, and a pretty piss poor design. They should have made the rail that bolts onto the action have a shroud that covers the barrel nut, so that you actually could use another handguard without the ridiculous gap. Aint no thing that can't be fixed. |
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Originally Posted By ziarifleman:
Aint no thing that can't be fixed. Originally Posted By ziarifleman:
Originally Posted By CastorTroy:
This is the gap you are going to get with pretty much any handguard other than the Samson/Rainier Evo handguards. http://i.imgur.com/UshPtrZ.jpg I have to say, it's very disappointing, and a pretty piss poor design. They should have made the rail that bolts onto the action have a shroud that covers the barrel nut, so that you actually could use another handguard without the ridiculous gap. Aint no thing that can't be fixed. Yup someone will come out with one or the rail manufacturers will make rails specifically for the RPR, when there is a need the market will fill it. |
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Originally Posted By peligro113:
Yup someone will come out with one or the rail manufacturers will make rails specifically for the RPR, when there is a need the market will fill it. Originally Posted By peligro113:
Originally Posted By ziarifleman:
Originally Posted By CastorTroy:
This is the gap you are going to get with pretty much any handguard other than the Samson/Rainier Evo handguards. http://i.imgur.com/UshPtrZ.jpg I have to say, it's very disappointing, and a pretty piss poor design. They should have made the rail that bolts onto the action have a shroud that covers the barrel nut, so that you actually could use another handguard without the ridiculous gap. Aint no thing that can't be fixed. Yup someone will come out with one or the rail manufacturers will make rails specifically for the RPR, when there is a need the market will fill it. Or just a nut that would allow standard handguards to fit correctly |
Originally Posted By swingset
No one wants to eat right and exercise, and lower their stress levels, all of which will come in a lot more handy than a home defense carbine and chest rig
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Rude pricks need a serious traumatic life experie
No one wants to eat right and exercise, and lower their stress levels, all of which will come in a lot more handy than a home defense carbine and chest rig
ANIMUS
Rude pricks need a serious traumatic life experie
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Originally Posted By CastorTroy:
This is the gap you are going to get with pretty much any handguard other than the Samson/Rainier Evo handguards. http://i.imgur.com/UshPtrZ.jpg I have to say, it's very disappointing, and a pretty piss poor design. They should have made the rail that bolts onto the action have a shroud that covers the barrel nut, so that you actually could use another handguard without the ridiculous gap. Called that as soon as I saw the parts diagram. Others are right though, if there is a need the market will offer a solution. Still it's kind of disappointing because people "in the know" touted the interchangeability... |
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Originally Posted By cjgem:
Called that as soon as I saw the parts diagram. Others are right though, if there is a need the market will offer a solution. Still it's kind of disappointing because people "in the know" touted the interchangeability... Originally Posted By cjgem:
Originally Posted By CastorTroy:
This is the gap you are going to get with pretty much any handguard other than the Samson/Rainier Evo handguards. http://i.imgur.com/UshPtrZ.jpg I have to say, it's very disappointing, and a pretty piss poor design. They should have made the rail that bolts onto the action have a shroud that covers the barrel nut, so that you actually could use another handguard without the ridiculous gap. Called that as soon as I saw the parts diagram. Others are right though, if there is a need the market will offer a solution. Still it's kind of disappointing because people "in the know" touted the interchangeability... Some people won't be bothered by the gap. The interchangeability is there just with a hiccup. I'm sure it'll all get figured out rather quickly. |
Originally Posted By swingset
No one wants to eat right and exercise, and lower their stress levels, all of which will come in a lot more handy than a home defense carbine and chest rig
ANIMUS
Rude pricks need a serious traumatic life experie
No one wants to eat right and exercise, and lower their stress levels, all of which will come in a lot more handy than a home defense carbine and chest rig
ANIMUS
Rude pricks need a serious traumatic life experie
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Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE:
Some people won't be bothered by the gap. The interchangeability is there just with a hiccup. I'm sure it'll all get figured out rather quickly. Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE:
Originally Posted By cjgem:
Originally Posted By CastorTroy:
This is the gap you are going to get with pretty much any handguard other than the Samson/Rainier Evo handguards. http://i.imgur.com/UshPtrZ.jpg I have to say, it's very disappointing, and a pretty piss poor design. They should have made the rail that bolts onto the action have a shroud that covers the barrel nut, so that you actually could use another handguard without the ridiculous gap. Called that as soon as I saw the parts diagram. Others are right though, if there is a need the market will offer a solution. Still it's kind of disappointing because people "in the know" touted the interchangeability... Some people won't be bothered by the gap. The interchangeability is there just with a hiccup. I'm sure it'll all get figured out rather quickly. You can bet guys are working on it now ! |
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Originally Posted By Easy_E:
You can bet guys are working on it now ! Originally Posted By Easy_E:
Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE:
Originally Posted By cjgem:
Originally Posted By CastorTroy:
This is the gap you are going to get with pretty much any handguard other than the Samson/Rainier Evo handguards. http://i.imgur.com/UshPtrZ.jpg I have to say, it's very disappointing, and a pretty piss poor design. They should have made the rail that bolts onto the action have a shroud that covers the barrel nut, so that you actually could use another handguard without the ridiculous gap. Called that as soon as I saw the parts diagram. Others are right though, if there is a need the market will offer a solution. Still it's kind of disappointing because people "in the know" touted the interchangeability... Some people won't be bothered by the gap. The interchangeability is there just with a hiccup. I'm sure it'll all get figured out rather quickly. You can bet guys are working on it now ! Top Guys 
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Originally Posted By swingset
No one wants to eat right and exercise, and lower their stress levels, all of which will come in a lot more handy than a home defense carbine and chest rig
ANIMUS
Rude pricks need a serious traumatic life experie
No one wants to eat right and exercise, and lower their stress levels, all of which will come in a lot more handy than a home defense carbine and chest rig
ANIMUS
Rude pricks need a serious traumatic life experie
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So I just got off the phone with Seekins and had a very nice and helpful technical conversation about the SP3R rail. It may just work. Their rail extends .25" back beyond their barrel nut which may be enough to cover the Ruger barrel nut. He talked me through the design and I can see how it just might work. He actually said Ruger was looking at their rail as well but decided to go with the Samson.
I may just give this one a shot, although I need to wait a few weeks to let my bank account recover. ETA: I won't be able to get to my rifle for a bit. Can anyone measure the distance from the top of the picatinny rail to the bottom of the RUGER barrel nut (The one closest to receiver? Thanks. |
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Originally Posted By Rob01:
Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE:
Top Guys https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B0aeC8oIYAI7EK5.jpg 
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Originally Posted By swingset
No one wants to eat right and exercise, and lower their stress levels, all of which will come in a lot more handy than a home defense carbine and chest rig
ANIMUS
Rude pricks need a serious traumatic life experie
No one wants to eat right and exercise, and lower their stress levels, all of which will come in a lot more handy than a home defense carbine and chest rig
ANIMUS
Rude pricks need a serious traumatic life experie
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Okay, this is the last time I take this thing apart.
The Geissele barrel nut fit the .308 barrel by a hair. The rail still will not clear the ruger barrel nut through, too bad because I like this rail soooooooo much more. Geissele barrel nut threaded all the way onto the barrel: 
Geissele rail installed. You can see the wings contact the RPR's barrel nut and prevent the rail's installation. 
These pics show the wing from a different angle so you can see it contacting the RPR's barrel nut. The width of the wing would be as far back as the rail would time so the screws would meet the Geissele barrel nut's screw grooves. That would leave a gap the width of the barrel nut's splines between the rail and receiver. 
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
Okay, this is the last time I take this thing apart.
The Geissele barrel nut fit the .308 barrel by a hair. The rail still will not clear the ruger barrel nut through, too bad because I like this rail soooooooo much more. Geissele barrel nut threaded all the way onto the barrel: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v501/defender3va/Ruger%20Precision%20Rifle/DSC_1279_zpsw0aalhfc.jpg Geissele rail installed. You can see the wings contact the RPR's barrel nut and prevent the rail's installation. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v501/defender3va/Ruger%20Precision%20Rifle/DSC_1280_zpso30echrm.jpg These pics show the wing from a different angle so you can see it contacting the RPR's barrel nut. The width of the wing would be as far back as the rail would time so the screws would meet the Geissele barrel nut's screw grooves. That would leave a gap the width of the barrel nut's splines between the rail and receiver. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v501/defender3va/Ruger%20Precision%20Rifle/DSC_1281_zpshwqvvhom.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v501/defender3va/Ruger%20Precision%20Rifle/DSC_1283_zpskteppmi5.jpg Does the geissele rail just use a clamp system to keep it in place? If so, that would be super easy to make it fit right. Measure the distance from the front of the receiver to the front of the nut, like .150 or so, and chuck the rail vertically in the mill, ditch the wings first, and plunge everything that would keep the top rails from mating. Basically remove everything but the top rail and the solid area below it. |
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Originally Posted By BoxofRox:
Does the geissele rail just use a clamp system to keep it in place? If so, that would be super easy to make it fit right. Originally Posted By BoxofRox:
Originally Posted By Defender3:
Okay, this is the last time I take this thing apart.
The Geissele barrel nut fit the .308 barrel by a hair. The rail still will not clear the ruger barrel nut through, too bad because I like this rail soooooooo much more. Geissele barrel nut threaded all the way onto the barrel: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v501/defender3va/Ruger%20Precision%20Rifle/DSC_1279_zpsw0aalhfc.jpg Geissele rail installed. You can see the wings contact the RPR's barrel nut and prevent the rail's installation. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v501/defender3va/Ruger%20Precision%20Rifle/DSC_1280_zpso30echrm.jpg These pics show the wing from a different angle so you can see it contacting the RPR's barrel nut. The width of the wing would be as far back as the rail would time so the screws would meet the Geissele barrel nut's screw grooves. That would leave a gap the width of the barrel nut's splines between the rail and receiver. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v501/defender3va/Ruger%20Precision%20Rifle/DSC_1281_zpshwqvvhom.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v501/defender3va/Ruger%20Precision%20Rifle/DSC_1283_zpskteppmi5.jpg Does the geissele rail just use a clamp system to keep it in place? If so, that would be super easy to make it fit right. No, the rail times to the nut and then the set screws on the wings add stability by tightening to the receiver. Take a look at the third picture and you can see the bolt holes on the lower part of the rail. Those bolt holes match the groove pattern on the barrel nut (also seen in the 3rd picture). |
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Originally Posted By BoxofRox:
Nope, wouldn't work. Tried to catch this before your edit, but you're right, you can't mill the rail and make it work. |
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i got to fondle one at a local store today. they were keeping a 308 on hand for display, taking orders on all 3 calibers. he said if he'd had them on hand, they would have already sold 30+ 6.5 creedmoors. i have to say, i was very impressed. i think i'm gonna pick one up. he was kind enough to throw a vortex 6-24 on it for me so that i could get a better feel.  it will be mine. oh yes, it will be mine |
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Originally Posted By CastorTroy:
i got to fondle one at a local store today. they were keeping a 308 on hand for display, taking orders on all 3 calibers. he said if he'd had them on hand, they would have already sold 30+ 6.5 creedmoors. i have to say, i was very impressed. i think i'm gonna pick one up. he was kind enough to throw a vortex 6-24 on it for me so that i could get a better feel. https://i.imgur.com/6Dx99oa.jpg it will be mine. oh yes, it will be mine Dam that looks sweet. Ruger hit a home run with these. You can bet the other gun makers aren't sitting by watching Ruger eat there lunch. Will be interesting to see how others follow. Love the competition. |
| It wouldn't be that hard to make a barrel nut that doesn't have the teeth and is threaded all the way to the receiver with holes to use a spanner wrench to install it. That would allow any ar handguard nut (that fits over the barrel) to thread all the way back and remove the gap. Although some rails like the Geissele still won't work because of the wings that need to fit around the receiver. The ruger PR receiver looks too wide to fit inside the wings. That's a shame because I bought a 15in blemished Geissele MK4 specifically for when I get a Ruger PR. |
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
Tried to catch this before your edit, but you're right, you can't mill the rail and make it work. Originally Posted By Defender3:
Originally Posted By BoxofRox:
Nope, wouldn't work. Tried to catch this before your edit, but you're right, you can't mill the rail and make it work. Definitely not that particular rail, I think about the NSR though and it just uses holes drilled in the rail to attach to the threaded holes in the barrel nut. I wonder if a guy could get away with moving those holes in the rail a bit and removing some material from the rear to make it work. I have a buddy that should be picking up his RPR this weekend, I'll see if he will let me give that a look. |
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Originally Posted By mark5pt56: My prediction is MI will be the first to make a rail for the Ruger. As I understand the system, if one made the barrel nut and handguard nut as one piece, unique to that handguard, it would work? It would work, but given that the nut would probably not be timed correctly, you might end up w/ your top rail @ something like 1:37 instead of TDC. |
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
Tried to catch this before your edit, but you're right, you can't mill the rail and make it work. Originally Posted By Defender3:
Originally Posted By BoxofRox:
Nope, wouldn't work. Tried to catch this before your edit, but you're right, you can't mill the rail and make it work. A guy could get fancy and chuck the nut up in a lathe and cut new grooves in exactly the right spot after milling the rear of the rail. If you really wanted to make it work. |
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Originally Posted By backbencher: It would work, but given that the nut would probably not be timed correctly, you might end up w/ your top rail @ something like 1:37 instead of TDC. Originally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By mark5pt56: My prediction is MI will be the first to make a rail for the Ruger. As I understand the system, if one made the barrel nut and handguard nut as one piece, unique to that handguard, it would work? It would work, but given that the nut would probably not be timed correctly, you might end up w/ your top rail @ something like 1:37 instead of TDC. |
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Originally Posted By Lennyo3034:
At the range shooting the MOA challenge against my precision AR. http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i408/lennyo3034/20150814_103938_HDR_zpszxahfvpn.jpg Which one are you rooting for? The rifle many of you have or may soon have? Or the AR-15? This is AR-15.com after all. Each rifle has its own role. If you need fast repeated rounds down range, then of course you want a semi. Otherwise the bolt will do. |
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Originally Posted By Bearcat24:
Each rifle has its own role. If you need fast repeated rounds down range, then of course you want a semi. Otherwise the bolt will do. Originally Posted By Bearcat24:
Originally Posted By Lennyo3034:
At the range shooting the MOA challenge against my precision AR. http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i408/lennyo3034/20150814_103938_HDR_zpszxahfvpn.jpg Which one are you rooting for? The rifle many of you have or may soon have? Or the AR-15? This is AR-15.com after all. Each rifle has its own role. If you need fast repeated rounds down range, then of course you want a semi. Otherwise the bolt will do. Exactly! My weapons have specific uses and ranges. I purchased for those uses, and hopefully covering my bases exactly as planned. The weapons below are what I own or waiting to find stock...or in NFA jail. I have no less than 1000 rounds for each and up to 3000 for some. Ready for whatever comes. Feed the family small game if SHTF - Baretta 22LR Match Pistol, Laser, Red Dot - 22LR - WInchester 36gr Feed the family small game for young son - GAMO Whisper .177 Pellet Rifle - Gamo 10.7gr Subsonic / Crossman Supersonic 10.5 HP Close range, face to face, and concealed carry - Glock 26 - 9mm - Federal 147gr HST +P Open carry same purpose - Browning Pro-40 (FNP40) - 40SW - Federal 180gr HST Stop them as they beat the door down - Remington 870 - 12Ga - Federal - .00 and #1 Tactical Low Recoil Buckshot 15 to max 150yds - PWS109 SBR CQB, Israeli QR Red Dot - Silenced (Omega) - .300BO - Harvester Hornady 208gr A-Max Subsonic (Currently SBR and Can in Form 4 NFA) 150-500 yds - Barrett Rec7 6.8, ACOG 6.8 - 6.8SPC - Hornady A-Max 115gr 300-800 Yds - Ruger Precision Rifle (As soon as I can find one in stock), Vortex Viper PST 6-24x50 FFT - 6.5 Creedmoor - Hornady A-Max 140 gr. 600-1600 Yds - Barrett 98B Tactical - Nightforce NXS 5.5-22x56 - Barrett BORS - 700 WinMag - Various bullets and loads. (Still experimenting) Reloading all with Dillon gear. Range ammo mostly Federal American Eagle for appropriate calibers. |
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Originally Posted By SittingElf:
Exactly! My weapons have specific uses and ranges. I purchased for those uses, and hopefully covering my bases exactly as planned. The weapons below are what I own or waiting to find stock...or in NFA jail. I have no less than 1000 rounds for each and up to 3000 for some. Ready for whatever comes. Feed the family small game if SHTF - Baretta 22LR Match Pistol, Laser, Red Dot - 22LR - WInchester 36gr Feed the family small game for young son - GAMO Whisper .177 Pellet Rifle - Gamo 10.7gr Subsonic / Crossman Supersonic 10.5 HP Close range, face to face, and concealed carry - Glock 26 - 9mm - Federal 147gr HST +P Open carry same purpose - Browning Pro-40 (FNP40) - 40SW - Federal 180gr HST Stop them as they beat the door down - Remington 870 - 12Ga - Federal - .00 and #1 Tactical Low Recoil Buckshot 15 to max 150yds - PWS109 SBR CQB, Israeli QR Red Dot - Silenced (Omega) - .300BO - Harvester Hornady 208gr A-Max Subsonic (Currently SBR and Can in Form 4 NFA) 150-500 yds - Barrett Rec7 6.8, ACOG 6.8 - 6.8SPC - Hornady A-Max 115gr 300-800 Yds - Ruger Precision Rifle (As soon as I can find one in stock), Vortex Viper PST 6-24x50 FFT - 6.5 Creedmoor - Hornady A-Max 140 gr. 600-1600 Yds - Barrett 98B Tactical - Nightforce NXS 5.5-22x56 - Barrett BORS - 700 WinMag - Various bullets and loads. (Still experimenting) Reloading all with Dillon gear. Originally Posted By SittingElf:
Originally Posted By Bearcat24:
Originally Posted By Lennyo3034:
At the range shooting the MOA challenge against my precision AR. http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i408/lennyo3034/20150814_103938_HDR_zpszxahfvpn.jpg Which one are you rooting for? The rifle many of you have or may soon have? Or the AR-15? This is AR-15.com after all. Each rifle has its own role. If you need fast repeated rounds down range, then of course you want a semi. Otherwise the bolt will do. Exactly! My weapons have specific uses and ranges. I purchased for those uses, and hopefully covering my bases exactly as planned. The weapons below are what I own or waiting to find stock...or in NFA jail. I have no less than 1000 rounds for each and up to 3000 for some. Ready for whatever comes. Feed the family small game if SHTF - Baretta 22LR Match Pistol, Laser, Red Dot - 22LR - WInchester 36gr Feed the family small game for young son - GAMO Whisper .177 Pellet Rifle - Gamo 10.7gr Subsonic / Crossman Supersonic 10.5 HP Close range, face to face, and concealed carry - Glock 26 - 9mm - Federal 147gr HST +P Open carry same purpose - Browning Pro-40 (FNP40) - 40SW - Federal 180gr HST Stop them as they beat the door down - Remington 870 - 12Ga - Federal - .00 and #1 Tactical Low Recoil Buckshot 15 to max 150yds - PWS109 SBR CQB, Israeli QR Red Dot - Silenced (Omega) - .300BO - Harvester Hornady 208gr A-Max Subsonic (Currently SBR and Can in Form 4 NFA) 150-500 yds - Barrett Rec7 6.8, ACOG 6.8 - 6.8SPC - Hornady A-Max 115gr 300-800 Yds - Ruger Precision Rifle (As soon as I can find one in stock), Vortex Viper PST 6-24x50 FFT - 6.5 Creedmoor - Hornady A-Max 140 gr. 600-1600 Yds - Barrett 98B Tactical - Nightforce NXS 5.5-22x56 - Barrett BORS - 700 WinMag - Various bullets and loads. (Still experimenting) Reloading all with Dillon gear. The Creedmoor is a solid 13-1500 yard round. |
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Originally Posted By SittingElf:
Exactly! My weapons have specific uses and ranges. I purchased for those uses, and hopefully covering my bases exactly as planned. The weapons below are what I own or waiting to find stock...or in NFA jail. I have no less than 1000 rounds for each and up to 3000 for some. Ready for whatever comes. Feed the family small game if SHTF - Baretta 22LR Match Pistol, Laser, Red Dot - 22LR - WInchester 36gr Feed the family small game for young son - GAMO Whisper .177 Pellet Rifle - Gamo 10.7gr Subsonic / Crossman Supersonic 10.5 HP Close range, face to face, and concealed carry - Glock 26 - 9mm - Federal 147gr HST +P Open carry same purpose - Browning Pro-40 (FNP40) - 40SW - Federal 180gr HST Stop them as they beat the door down - Remington 870 - 12Ga - Federal - .00 and #1 Tactical Low Recoil Buckshot 15 to max 150yds - PWS109 SBR CQB, Israeli QR Red Dot - Silenced (Omega) - .300BO - Harvester Hornady 208gr A-Max Subsonic (Currently SBR and Can in Form 4 NFA) 150-500 yds - Barrett Rec7 6.8, ACOG 6.8 - 6.8SPC - Hornady A-Max 115gr 300-800 Yds - Ruger Precision Rifle (As soon as I can find one in stock), Vortex Viper PST 6-24x50 FFT - 6.5 Creedmoor - Hornady A-Max 140 gr. 600-1600 Yds - Barrett 98B Tactical - Nightforce NXS 5.5-22x56 - Barrett BORS - 700 WinMag - Various bullets and loads. (Still experimenting) Reloading all with Dillon gear. Range ammo mostly Federal American Eagle for appropriate calibers. Originally Posted By SittingElf:
Originally Posted By Bearcat24:
Originally Posted By Lennyo3034:
At the range shooting the MOA challenge against my precision AR. http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i408/lennyo3034/20150814_103938_HDR_zpszxahfvpn.jpg Which one are you rooting for? The rifle many of you have or may soon have? Or the AR-15? This is AR-15.com after all. Each rifle has its own role. If you need fast repeated rounds down range, then of course you want a semi. Otherwise the bolt will do. Exactly! My weapons have specific uses and ranges. I purchased for those uses, and hopefully covering my bases exactly as planned. The weapons below are what I own or waiting to find stock...or in NFA jail. I have no less than 1000 rounds for each and up to 3000 for some. Ready for whatever comes. Feed the family small game if SHTF - Baretta 22LR Match Pistol, Laser, Red Dot - 22LR - WInchester 36gr Feed the family small game for young son - GAMO Whisper .177 Pellet Rifle - Gamo 10.7gr Subsonic / Crossman Supersonic 10.5 HP Close range, face to face, and concealed carry - Glock 26 - 9mm - Federal 147gr HST +P Open carry same purpose - Browning Pro-40 (FNP40) - 40SW - Federal 180gr HST Stop them as they beat the door down - Remington 870 - 12Ga - Federal - .00 and #1 Tactical Low Recoil Buckshot 15 to max 150yds - PWS109 SBR CQB, Israeli QR Red Dot - Silenced (Omega) - .300BO - Harvester Hornady 208gr A-Max Subsonic (Currently SBR and Can in Form 4 NFA) 150-500 yds - Barrett Rec7 6.8, ACOG 6.8 - 6.8SPC - Hornady A-Max 115gr 300-800 Yds - Ruger Precision Rifle (As soon as I can find one in stock), Vortex Viper PST 6-24x50 FFT - 6.5 Creedmoor - Hornady A-Max 140 gr. 600-1600 Yds - Barrett 98B Tactical - Nightforce NXS 5.5-22x56 - Barrett BORS - 700 WinMag - Various bullets and loads. (Still experimenting) Reloading all with Dillon gear. Range ammo mostly Federal American Eagle for appropriate calibers. I have plenty of guns. Plenty. I have canned food and mountain house meals for my family. Enough for several months. I doubt my wife will be eating squirrel |
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I have plenty of guns. Plenty. I have canned food and mountain house meals for my family. Enough for several months. I doubt my wife will be eating squirrel It all comes down to how long a "situation" lasts. I also have at least 6-months of food, but planning for the "what if's" just in case something went far longer. Besides....squirrel and rabbit can be quite tasty! 
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Originally Posted By SittingElf:
It all comes down to how long a "situation" lasts. I also have at least 6-months of food, but planning for the "what if's" just in case something went far longer. Besides....squirrel and rabbit can be quite tasty!
Originally Posted By SittingElf:
I have plenty of guns. Plenty. I have canned food and mountain house meals for my family. Enough for several months. I doubt my wife will be eating squirrel It all comes down to how long a "situation" lasts. I also have at least 6-months of food, but planning for the "what if's" just in case something went far longer. Besides....squirrel and rabbit can be quite tasty!
Lol. Still trying to get her to eat venison 
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The Creedmoor is a solid 13-1500 yard round. I would agree for competition and shooting paper or steel. My purpose is to insure a single shot, fatal thoracic, put them DOWN round when the SHTF. Require hitting the center of a roughly 18" wide target with positive fatal stopping power out to 1600.... 300 WinMag for that range assures the result. Not so sure with the 6.5. 338 Lapua is better, but the 700WM is easier to handle, as well as cheaper, both factory and reloaded. |
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Originally Posted By SittingElf:
I would agree for competition and shooting paper or steel. My purpose is to insure a single shot, fatal thoracic, put them DOWN round when the SHTF. Require hitting the center of a roughly 18" wide target with positive fatal stopping power out to 1600.... 700 WinMag for that range assures the result. Not so sure with the 6.5. 338 Lapua is better, but the 700WM is easier to handle, as well as cheaper, both factory and reloaded. Originally Posted By SittingElf:
The Creedmoor is a solid 13-1500 yard round. I would agree for competition and shooting paper or steel. My purpose is to insure a single shot, fatal thoracic, put them DOWN round when the SHTF. Require hitting the center of a roughly 18" wide target with positive fatal stopping power out to 1600.... 700 WinMag for that range assures the result. Not so sure with the 6.5. 338 Lapua is better, but the 700WM is easier to handle, as well as cheaper, both factory and reloaded. Um... okay. |
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Originally Posted By SittingElf:
I would agree for competition and shooting paper or steel. My purpose is to insure a single shot, fatal thoracic, put them DOWN round when the SHTF. Require hitting the center of a roughly 18" wide target with positive fatal stopping power out to 1600.... 700 WinMag for that range assures the result. Not so sure with the 6.5. 338 Lapua is better, but the 700WM is easier to handle, as well as cheaper, both factory and reloaded. Originally Posted By SittingElf:
The Creedmoor is a solid 13-1500 yard round. I would agree for competition and shooting paper or steel. My purpose is to insure a single shot, fatal thoracic, put them DOWN round when the SHTF. Require hitting the center of a roughly 18" wide target with positive fatal stopping power out to 1600.... 700 WinMag for that range assures the result. Not so sure with the 6.5. 338 Lapua is better, but the 700WM is easier to handle, as well as cheaper, both factory and reloaded. What the hell is a 700WM? |
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No one wants to eat right and exercise, and lower their stress levels, all of which will come in a lot more handy than a home defense carbine and chest rig
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Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE:
What the hell is a 700WM? Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE:
Originally Posted By SittingElf:
The Creedmoor is a solid 13-1500 yard round. I would agree for competition and shooting paper or steel. My purpose is to insure a single shot, fatal thoracic, put them DOWN round when the SHTF. Require hitting the center of a roughly 18" wide target with positive fatal stopping power out to 1600.... 700 WinMag for that range assures the result. Not so sure with the 6.5. 338 Lapua is better, but the 700WM is easier to handle, as well as cheaper, both factory and reloaded. What the hell is a 700WM? Don't you know? It's a very secret squirrel round when you have to put them DOWN in a SHTF scenario at 1600 yards! Geesh! |
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Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: What the hell is a 700WM? Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: Originally Posted By SittingElf: The Creedmoor is a solid 13-1500 yard round. I would agree for competition and shooting paper or steel. My purpose is to insure a single shot, fatal thoracic, put them DOWN round when the SHTF. Require hitting the center of a roughly 18" wide target with positive fatal stopping power out to 1600.... 700 WinMag for that range assures the result. Not so sure with the 6.5. 338 Lapua is better, but the 700WM is easier to handle, as well as cheaper, both factory and reloaded. What the hell is a 700WM?  . For when you need to kill shtfzombies before they get too close.
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Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE:
What the hell is a 700WM? Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE:
Originally Posted By SittingElf:
The Creedmoor is a solid 13-1500 yard round. I would agree for competition and shooting paper or steel. My purpose is to insure a single shot, fatal thoracic, put them DOWN round when the SHTF. Require hitting the center of a roughly 18" wide target with positive fatal stopping power out to 1600.... 700 WinMag for that range assures the result. Not so sure with the 6.5. 338 Lapua is better, but the 700WM is easier to handle, as well as cheaper, both factory and reloaded. What the hell is a 700WM? It's a Blackwater thang... |
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Originally Posted By SittingElf:
Exactly! My weapons have specific uses and ranges. I purchased for those uses, and hopefully covering my bases exactly as planned. The weapons below are what I own or waiting to find stock...or in NFA jail. I have no less than 1000 rounds for each and up to 3000 for some. Ready for whatever comes. Feed the family small game if SHTF - Baretta 22LR Match Pistol, Laser, Red Dot - 22LR - WInchester 36gr Feed the family small game for young son - GAMO Whisper .177 Pellet Rifle - Gamo 10.7gr Subsonic / Crossman Supersonic 10.5 HP Close range, face to face, and concealed carry - Glock 26 - 9mm - Federal 147gr HST +P Open carry same purpose - Browning Pro-40 (FNP40) - 40SW - Federal 180gr HST Stop them as they beat the door down - Remington 870 - 12Ga - Federal - .00 and #1 Tactical Low Recoil Buckshot 15 to max 150yds - PWS109 SBR CQB, Israeli QR Red Dot - Silenced (Omega) - .300BO - Harvester Hornady 208gr A-Max Subsonic (Currently SBR and Can in Form 4 NFA) 150-500 yds - Barrett Rec7 6.8, ACOG 6.8 - 6.8SPC - Hornady A-Max 115gr 300-800 Yds - Ruger Precision Rifle (As soon as I can find one in stock), Vortex Viper PST 6-24x50 FFT - 6.5 Creedmoor - Hornady A-Max 140 gr. 600-1600 Yds - Barrett 98B Tactical - Nightforce NXS 5.5-22x56 - Barrett BORS - 700 WinMag - Various bullets and loads. (Still experimenting) Reloading all with Dillon gear. Range ammo mostly Federal American Eagle for appropriate calibers. Originally Posted By SittingElf:
Originally Posted By Bearcat24:
Originally Posted By Lennyo3034:
At the range shooting the MOA challenge against my precision AR. http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i408/lennyo3034/20150814_103938_HDR_zpszxahfvpn.jpg Which one are you rooting for? The rifle many of you have or may soon have? Or the AR-15? This is AR-15.com after all. Each rifle has its own role. If you need fast repeated rounds down range, then of course you want a semi. Otherwise the bolt will do. Exactly! My weapons have specific uses and ranges. I purchased for those uses, and hopefully covering my bases exactly as planned. The weapons below are what I own or waiting to find stock...or in NFA jail. I have no less than 1000 rounds for each and up to 3000 for some. Ready for whatever comes. Feed the family small game if SHTF - Baretta 22LR Match Pistol, Laser, Red Dot - 22LR - WInchester 36gr Feed the family small game for young son - GAMO Whisper .177 Pellet Rifle - Gamo 10.7gr Subsonic / Crossman Supersonic 10.5 HP Close range, face to face, and concealed carry - Glock 26 - 9mm - Federal 147gr HST +P Open carry same purpose - Browning Pro-40 (FNP40) - 40SW - Federal 180gr HST Stop them as they beat the door down - Remington 870 - 12Ga - Federal - .00 and #1 Tactical Low Recoil Buckshot 15 to max 150yds - PWS109 SBR CQB, Israeli QR Red Dot - Silenced (Omega) - .300BO - Harvester Hornady 208gr A-Max Subsonic (Currently SBR and Can in Form 4 NFA) 150-500 yds - Barrett Rec7 6.8, ACOG 6.8 - 6.8SPC - Hornady A-Max 115gr 300-800 Yds - Ruger Precision Rifle (As soon as I can find one in stock), Vortex Viper PST 6-24x50 FFT - 6.5 Creedmoor - Hornady A-Max 140 gr. 600-1600 Yds - Barrett 98B Tactical - Nightforce NXS 5.5-22x56 - Barrett BORS - 700 WinMag - Various bullets and loads. (Still experimenting) Reloading all with Dillon gear. Range ammo mostly Federal American Eagle for appropriate calibers. Eagerly awaiting pics of a thousand rounds of this 700WM
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I took the .308 RPR to the range today to see how I could do with the rifle. I only have two bolt guns, a 1903-A4 and this RPR, and I've only shot the 03-A4 once, so I certainly understand I need to practice my basics. It was a nice sunny day with temps in the low 90's, humidity probably at 65% and a light breeze (5mph) in my face.
The range is nothing fancy and limited to 100 yards. I had pre-cleaned the rifle and I brought my cleaning equipment with me. I fired one shot and cleaned; I did not notice any copper fouling, only carbon. I fired another shot and did the same with no copper fouling noted. I fired three rounds and cleaned and found no evidence of copper fouling so I stopped cleaning and focused on firing. I was shooting from a bench and shot two fouling rounds and then began 5-shot strings at a leisurely pace. I used the first string making adjustments to stock and trying to settle in. I fired three additional strings and was pretty much at 1 to 1.5 MOA but I really wasn't comfortable with my positioning behind the rifle. I switched to prone and fired 8 more strings. I did better but I still has some issues with consistency and a natural point of aim. I think I need a better optic too since my $135 Mueller doesn't have the clarity my old eyes need.
I have to say I really like this rifle, the ergonomics fit me well and the trigger is really smooth out-of-the-box. I think the accuracy will improve as I improve and certainly this rifle will shoot better than me. Ruger RPR with Harris Bipod in a LaRue mount with a Mueller 5.5-25x50 in a LaRue mount firing Federal Premium .308 Winchester 168gr Sierra Matchking BTHPs. Rifle on the line: 
Looking downrange, you can just see the targets on the 100 yard line: 
Some cherry picked 5-shot groups: 
A prone set of strings (I re-measured the top left string and opened it up a bit, as seen above): 
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RANGE REPORT
Today was a tough day for shooting for groups. Temps were in the low 90s, although humidity was a reasonable 50%. It was bright and sunny, although I prefer somewhat overcast. Mirage wasn't terrible and both optics were shot at 12-15X. Accuracy of the Ruger sucked ass at first, much worse than previously. After a few groups, I realized it was due to the AAC Brakeout 2.0 muzzle brake. Luckily I had the tool with me, so I removed it and accuracy greatly improved. The groups below are with the brake off. I did 5 groups for 5 shots each for record. I was initially going to submit these to the MOA challenge, however I didn't do as well as expected with either rifle. I'm not blaming the rifles for the results, the weather was poor for shooting groups. I don't do well in heat and was completely soaked in sweat by the end of the day. Still, the results were not what I would call "bad". And the winner is: 
Obviously this picture was taken of another rifle, but same barrel company. Seriously though the barrel characteristics made the difference and I will explain why. The AR came out ahead today. I was hoping for better groups than this as I have had excellent accuracy with this load of 77 TMK over 8208. During sight in and load development, I had several groups at .25, although not consistently. At 500 yards, I was able to hit a 6" steel target with ease. Although I've only had this barrel a few months and have only taken it to 500 once. The wind was calm that day. Even though it didn't do quite as well as I was hoping for, it still pulled out a very respectable .559 MOA average over 5 groups: 
The Ruger actually the smallest groups of the day, however they were not consistent due to heat. Obviously a 6.5 creedmoor will heat up a barrel quicker than a .223, however once the Ruger's barrel got hot, it stayed hot. The accuracy was also more affected by heat than the Krieger on the AR. The Krieger continued to have the same accuracy whether hot or cold and held a relatively consistent POI. The Ruger's groups definitely opened up with heat. The two smallest groups were the ones where I gave the barrel a significant amount of time to cool down. If I shot a second or third group immediately afterwards, it was very evident on paper. I'm inclined to believe this has to do with residual stress from the hammer forging process vs single point cut rifling, but that's just a guess. Still, the fact that I'm comparing a Ruger barrel to a Krieger gives evidence to how good this rifle really is. I shot factory Hornady 120 grain Amax today. The rifle actually likes 140 grain amax more, but I didn't want to waste the few I have at 100 yards. Also a .596 MOA average is not exactly something to be disappointed about, especially considering it was really just one group that screwed it up: 
I am still not happy with the Samson rail. Last night I remounted it and made sure it was perfectly centered. After a day of shooting off a preloaded bipod, it is now canted upwards and to the side. I will be ordering a Seekins and doing whatever I can to get it to work next week. I will be looking for another muzzle device as well as the AAC affects accuracy too much. I'm considering removing the one off my AR in case it may have been affecting it as well. |
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Originally Posted By delirious1:
I have plenty of guns. Plenty. I have canned food and mountain house meals for my family. Enough for several months. I doubt my wife will be eating squirrel Originally Posted By delirious1:
Originally Posted By SittingElf:
Originally Posted By Bearcat24:
Originally Posted By Lennyo3034:
At the range shooting the MOA challenge against my precision AR. http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i408/lennyo3034/20150814_103938_HDR_zpszxahfvpn.jpg Which one are you rooting for? The rifle many of you have or may soon have? Or the AR-15? This is AR-15.com after all. Each rifle has its own role. If you need fast repeated rounds down range, then of course you want a semi. Otherwise the bolt will do. Exactly! My weapons have specific uses and ranges. I purchased for those uses, and hopefully covering my bases exactly as planned. The weapons below are what I own or waiting to find stock...or in NFA jail. I have no less than 1000 rounds for each and up to 3000 for some. Ready for whatever comes. Feed the family small game if SHTF - Baretta 22LR Match Pistol, Laser, Red Dot - 22LR - WInchester 36gr Feed the family small game for young son - GAMO Whisper .177 Pellet Rifle - Gamo 10.7gr Subsonic / Crossman Supersonic 10.5 HP Close range, face to face, and concealed carry - Glock 26 - 9mm - Federal 147gr HST +P Open carry same purpose - Browning Pro-40 (FNP40) - 40SW - Federal 180gr HST Stop them as they beat the door down - Remington 870 - 12Ga - Federal - .00 and #1 Tactical Low Recoil Buckshot 15 to max 150yds - PWS109 SBR CQB, Israeli QR Red Dot - Silenced (Omega) - .300BO - Harvester Hornady 208gr A-Max Subsonic (Currently SBR and Can in Form 4 NFA) 150-500 yds - Barrett Rec7 6.8, ACOG 6.8 - 6.8SPC - Hornady A-Max 115gr 300-800 Yds - Ruger Precision Rifle (As soon as I can find one in stock), Vortex Viper PST 6-24x50 FFT - 6.5 Creedmoor - Hornady A-Max 140 gr. 600-1600 Yds - Barrett 98B Tactical - Nightforce NXS 5.5-22x56 - Barrett BORS - 700 WinMag - Various bullets and loads. (Still experimenting) Reloading all with Dillon gear. Range ammo mostly Federal American Eagle for appropriate calibers. I have plenty of guns. Plenty. I have canned food and mountain house meals for my family. Enough for several months. I doubt my wife will be eating squirrel Tell her they taste like chicken
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Originally Posted By Trumpet:
It's a Blackwater thang... Originally Posted By Trumpet:
Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE:
Originally Posted By SittingElf:
The Creedmoor is a solid 13-1500 yard round. I would agree for competition and shooting paper or steel. My purpose is to insure a single shot, fatal thoracic, put them DOWN round when the SHTF. Require hitting the center of a roughly 18" wide target with positive fatal stopping power out to 1600.... 700 WinMag for that range assures the result. Not so sure with the 6.5. 338 Lapua is better, but the 700WM is easier to handle, as well as cheaper, both factory and reloaded. What the hell is a 700WM? It's a Blackwater thang... Very large brain fart while getting ready to go back to Nigeria this evening. Should be 300 WInMag. I also called my wife from the airport and couldn't remember her name...... Feel like an idiot now. The wine in the Delta Lounge is helping though..... Oops |
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Originally Posted By SittingElf:
Very large brain fart while getting ready to go back to Nigeria this evening. Should be 300 WInMag. I also called my wife from the airport and couldn't remember her name...... Feel like an idiot now. The wine in the Delta Lounge is helping though..... Oops Originally Posted By SittingElf:
Originally Posted By Trumpet:
Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE:
Originally Posted By SittingElf:
The Creedmoor is a solid 13-1500 yard round. I would agree for competition and shooting paper or steel. My purpose is to insure a single shot, fatal thoracic, put them DOWN round when the SHTF. Require hitting the center of a roughly 18" wide target with positive fatal stopping power out to 1600.... 700 WinMag for that range assures the result. Not so sure with the 6.5. 338 Lapua is better, but the 700WM is easier to handle, as well as cheaper, both factory and reloaded. What the hell is a 700WM? It's a Blackwater thang... Very large brain fart while getting ready to go back to Nigeria this evening. Should be 300 WInMag. I also called my wife from the airport and couldn't remember her name...... Feel like an idiot now. The wine in the Delta Lounge is helping though..... Oops LOL ...dibs on guns. |
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