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Now that's a looker! 18" Wylde barrels with 1/8 twist seem to be the sweet spot these days. What kind of ammo do you plan on shooting to test accuracy? 77gr?
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Originally Posted By Brok3n:
Now that's a looker! 18" Wylde barrels with 1/8 twist seem to be the sweet spot these days. What kind of ammo do you plan on shooting to test accuracy? 77gr? View Quote |
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Man that’s sweet. Especially that S&B sitting on top. I’ve got to ask though...why not the Valkyrie or at least Grendel. How far do you plan on shooting with this rig?
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Did you use a JP Thermal Disapaitor in the Noveske NSR rail???
I was so worried about making contact with my gas block. would a tight(touching) rail/barrel fit be effective as "bedding?" I was under the impression the barrel should NOT be touching anything. Please posts how this works. I never ordered a Thermal Dissapiator because it would contact the small NSR ID |
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Originally Posted By alpha0815:
Man that's sweet. Especially that S&B sitting on top. I've got to ask though...why not the Valkyrie or at least Grendel. How far do you plan on shooting with this rig? View Quote |
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Originally Posted By donho00:
Did you use a JP Thermal Disapaitor in the Noveske NSR rail??? I was so worried about making contact with my gas block. would a tight(touching) rail/barrel fit be effective as "bedding?" I was under the impression the barrel should NOT be touching anything. Please posts how this works. I never ordered a Thermal Dissapiator because it would contact the small NSR ID View Quote Technically, it's not bedded in the sense that handguard movement would effect accuracy. Everybody free floats to lower resonance and this experiment may prove to be a mistake. To be honest I didn't anticipate the hand guard clearance issues and when I found out that I had to use one of JP's handguards to fit correctly I sort of got pissed and said screw them. I mean seriously, they could have made the dissipater .050 smaller in diameter rather than make it larger than any light weight handguard available except theirs. If it doesn't work like I think then I'll cut it off and remove the dissipater. If I were to order another barrel like this I would not pay the extra money for the dissipater. The rifle is basically a single shot so heat is not an issue. I thought they looked cool under the handguard giving the rifle a little flare. The upper I used was a 15" and I had to cut 3" off of it and then install the gas block leaving it exposed. You probably would not want to do that if this was a field gun but this gun goes to and from the range or events in a hard case and nobody uses it but me. It is not a hunting rifle, I have the 6.5G and a LR .308 for that. |
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I used Noveske rail as well. and JP guts
The gas block was able to fit. Mostly because Ben steered me to NOT use a JP GB. But a JP marked Syrac. I dont like how the barrel gets very thin under the rail. Probably just for the thermal dissapiator. I would have preferred a larger profile. But for such a thin profile. It still shoots like a laser. I rarely shoot long strings anymore. More like a slow 5 shot group and it sits. But I have before and POI was not noticeable. Shocking for such a small barrel I would really be interested in how your setup goes. Please report back |
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Originally Posted By donho00:
I used Noveske rail as well. and JP guts The gas block was able to fit. Mostly because Ben steered me to NOT use a JP GB. But a JP marked Syrac. I dont like how the barrel gets very thin under the rail. Probably just for the thermal dissapiator. I would have preferred a larger profile. But for such a thin profile. It still shoots like a laser. I rarely shoot long strings anymore. More like a slow 5 shot group and it sits. But I have before and POI was not noticeable. Shocking for such a small barrel I would really be interested in how your setup goes. Please report back View Quote |
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If the dissipatior is only .05" to large, can you not turn it down carefully on the lathe? Or would it just bend the fins striking the cutting tool? I'd think so long as you went nice and slow you could? I don't have much experience with a lathe. (some but not a lot, never tried anything like that)
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Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. Those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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The dissipater is two piece so you'd have to do it on the barrel or a piece of round stock. I thought about cutting it down on my mill which would be easy but I want my gas block hidden under the hand guard too and I'd have to take a lot off it to make that work. The new handguard will be here tomorrow. JP is hitting on all cylinders now and getting product out now that SHOT is over. The challenge will be getting the old handguard off. I may have to cut it off with the mill or worst case, my 4-1/2" grinder with a cut off disc on it.
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I milled 1/4" cut on both sides of the old handguard and it came off in two halves. I'm not putting the dissipater back on. I got the new handguard from JP and have to let it sit overnight so the Loctite can fully cure. That's no big deal since I had to order a 1-3/8 crows foot from MSC in order to torque the barrel nut. It is a different bird for sure but the way it works makes a lot more sense than other barrel nuts. I pre fitted everything and I actually like the way it looks better than I thought I would.
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Took her out to the range and she functions beautifully. First 10 rounds of 55 gr .223 went to getting the gas block fine tuned. Typically if it will run with a 55 then it will be super reliable with a 62 or better. I use the JP adjustable GB's and as soon as it fully cycles for 10 rounds at least with 55's I stop and do not add the extra 6 clicks for reliability because I never shoot less than 55's and 62 or heavier will increase gas pressure to a highly reliable state. After the first 10, I shot 10 more in rapid succession and then put it away. I brought it home and cleaned it and will take it out again to get it sighted in at 100 yards and give you some target pictures to look at.
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Decided to order the ERA TAC Adjustable angle scope mount instead of using the 20 MOA mount that I have on it. The problem I have is that at 100 yards, I have to hold under the target by quite a bit because I run out of down elevation on the PMII. With the adjustable I'll be able to go from 0 to 70 with the mount and still have all the scope adjustment left. I'll be using SIG Elite Performance 77gr OTM which the ballistics show should shoot flat at 100 yards. That should give me a well zero'd rifle that can be reliably adjusted to other ammunition if their ballistics are reliable. * Used the word "should" here a lot * 495.00 for the mount which is why I didn't buy it the first time around.
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I got the ERA-TAC adjustable but it's not cantilevered so my eye relief with that big scope isn't where I want it. I can order the handguard top rail from JP for 75.00 that would allow me to move it further forward but I'm probably going to put this scope on my .308 and put my Swarovski on this one. I ordered a JP non adjustable, flat, 34 mm cantilevered mount before I thought about swapping things up so I'm not really sure what I'll do. I'll know tomorrow when the JP gets here.
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Originally Posted By sschefer:
I got the ERA-TAC adjustable but it's not cantilevered so my eye relief with that big scope isn't where I want it. I can order the handguard top rail from JP for 75.00 that would allow me to move it further forward but I'm probably going to put this scope on my .308 and put my Swarovski on this one. I ordered a JP non adjustable, flat, 34 mm cantilevered mount before I thought about swapping things up so I'm not really sure what I'll do. I'll know tomorrow when the JP gets here. View Quote Glad you liked the JP handguard. I've got one for an ar10 sitting in the parts bin. Didn't provide enough clearance around the gas tube and I went with an SLR. |
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Originally Posted By rob78: Don't try and bridge the gap if you can help it. You want to keep the mount on the receiver. Especially on a rifle built for precision shooting. Glad you liked the JP handguard. I've got one for an ar10 sitting in the parts bin. Didn't provide enough clearance around the gas tube and I went with an SLR. View Quote |
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