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Akethan,
Your UU 308 entry ... Did you shoot from the top down? Just curious why 1st group was in the middle And why it got tighter as you shot ML |
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Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Akethan, Your UU 308 entry ... Did you shoot from the top down? Just curious why 1st group was in the middle And why it got tighter as you shot ML 
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My last post in the challenge thread might have left one to consider not scoring it until I shoot it post load development... However, my divorce has gotten to a point where I removed all firearms from the house and will not be shooting it again for a few months to a year..
With that being said, can my old groups be replaced by my new groups in the charts? https://www.ar15.com/forums/precision-rifles/-ARFCOM-1-MOA-ALL-DAY-LONG-Challenge-/17-51/&page=29#i96585 |
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Originally Posted By patchouli:
Can I use the cabelas rear bag? It is same size as triad wedgie (I don't have the triad) Here it is next to crosstac squeeze bag https://i.imgur.com/VhLMiSW.jpg https://i.imgur.com/g4WkaPC.jpg |
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Hmmmm, LaRue barrels still hold SPR Division 7 of the Top 11 ...
Apparently my barrels work well even when skinned down to a carry-able diameter. Bolt actions better look out. |
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El cheapos are accurate as hell too.
Virtually every modern machined gun is capable. Johnnyreloading on YouTube is using a 220 dollar Thompson bolt gun to shoot half moa. My cheap brownells bbl is shooting sub moa even during the randomness of load development (as seen below).  We are truly in the salad days of guns! It's great. As for the list here, there are some on it that are proven fibbers and then there are tons more people shooting it that want to impress their manufacturer's owner. Maybe they'll get something out of it. Or maybe just for internet high fives. Fun to shoot anyway |
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Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical: Hmmmm, LaRue barrels still hold SPR Division 7 of the Top 11 ... Apparently my barrels work well even when skinned down to a carry-able diameter. Bolt actions better look out. 
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Originally Posted By patchouli:
El cheapos are accurate as hell too. Virtually every modern machined gun is capable. Johnnyreloading on YouTube is using a 220 dollar Thompson bolt gun to shoot half moa. My cheap brownells bbl is shooting sub moa even during the randomness of load development (as seen below). https://i.imgur.com/Ja53AC4.jpg We are truly in the salad days of guns! It's great. As for the list here, there are some on it that are proven fibbers and then there are tons more people shooting it that want to impress their manufacturer's owner. Maybe they'll get something out of it. Or maybe just for internet high fives. Fun to shoot anyway |
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I don't see it mentioned in the rules -- 1. Do the ranges specified for division constitute minimum range or ONLY range? In other words can I choose to shoot the challenge at 200yd and calculate MOA accordingly? I feel I can measure more precisely when getting into the 1/2 MOA range if they aren't all on top of each other like at 100. 2. I assume that for calculation (I'm using OnTarget) we can use actual rather than nominal range for calculation? My club's "100yd" line ranges at 104.2yd from the front of the shooting bench to the target stands, 198yd to the 200yd line stands and 304 to the 300yd stands. [Removed question 3 and photos to move to the main thread] |
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Originally Posted By Keyst0ne:
I don't see it mentioned in the rules -- 1. Do the ranges specified for division constitute minimum range or ONLY range? In other words can I choose to shoot the challenge at 200yd and calculate MOA accordingly? I feel I can measure more precisely when getting into the 1/2 MOA range if they aren't all on top of each other like at 100. 2. I assume that for calculation (I'm using OnTarget) we can use actual rather than nominal range for calculation? My club's "100yd" line ranges at 104.2yd from the front of the shooting bench to the target stands, 198yd to the 200yd line stands and 304 to the 300yd stands. 3. Finally, I'm using graph paper with 0.1" gradations -- is a tape measure or caliper picture still required? https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-33GHG7s/0/ae59f8f9/L/i-33GHG7s-L.jpghttps://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-6Zq4NNS/0/6c78c39a/M/i-6Zq4NNS-M.jpghttps://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-xCFR2RQ/0/0a66f8d7/M/i-xCFR2RQ-M.jpg What trigger do you have in your gun? What barrel is it and who finished it? Your target height seems extreme from the picture. Is it needed due to the range set up? Do you see sway in the target? Great shooting and nice looking rifle. |
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Originally Posted By JessBrie:
What trigger do you have in your gun? Stock Accuracy International 2-stage trigger, 3.5lb 1st stage, 12oz 2nd stage. Trigger quality > trigger weight What barrel is it and who finished it? Accurate Ordinance 26" Bartlein Your target height seems extreme from the picture. Is it needed due to the range set up? Do you see sway in the target? Target stands are the clubs -- I believe the intent is to ensure that any rifle round impacts the 300yd berm regardless of how much it drops after a 100yd zero. It's not an issue in practice, and there are wedges to prevent rocking. Great shooting and nice looking rifle.Thanks! |
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Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
LaRue 7.62 barrel - Five 5-shot groups one after another |
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I asked the same question The single group was the first group shot, then turrets were moved to sight it in, then two burners were slung into the background to "set" the reticle. Then the four 5-shot groups followed. ML |
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Target from the 2nd LaRue 18" 308 yesterday  . |
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Originally Posted By polymorpheous:
@LaRue_Tactical The link for your 1 MOA target is dead. And it doesn't download as a PDF when I visit your site. How can I get a copy of this target? . |
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The bolt guns are still going going to make it hard on the gas guns.
From 2 weeks ago when confirming a load for a rifle that’s been in the safe for a few months. 
Attempted the MOA challenge with it this past weekend but only managed .52moa. Had some wind moving the target stand, so I’d like to repeat and see what the rifle/shooter combo can do. Curious if there will be a new thread started one day. Most of the post pics were submitted with Photobucket, and they aren’t available anymore. In addition, the list needs some TLC, as it’s all jacked up, and has been that way since at least Oct. of last year. |
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From the main MOA thread: "Do you notice much for mirage shift with the suppressor? What cover are you using and does it seem to help with heat dissipation or only as a protection against touching the hot can?" I use a silencerco cover (here). I never really shoot my rifle enough to get the can crazy hot. I mostly use the cover to help protect it from scratches etc. They do help with mirage, but I've never run it hard enough to get into serious mirage issues. They are basically an insulator...so once the can gets hot it stays hot longer. So no, it does not help with dissipating heat...it makes it worse. That's the downside. They do help you remove the can without burning your hand though. |
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Originally Posted By newBMowner:
@JessBrie From the main MOA thread: "Do you notice much for mirage shift with the suppressor? What cover are you using and does it seem to help with heat dissipation or only as a protection against touching the hot can?" I use a silencerco cover (here). I never really shoot my rifle enough to get the can crazy hot. I mostly use the cover to help protect it from scratches etc. They do help with mirage, but I've never run it hard enough to get into serious mirage issues. They are basically an insulator...so once the can gets hot it stays hot longer. So no, it does not help with dissipating heat...it makes it worse. That's the downside. They do help you remove the can without burning your hand though. |
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| Something may be askew with the measuring on that last group, over in the official thread. |
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Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Something may be askew with the measuring on that last group, over in the official thread. |
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Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Something may be askew with the measuring on that last group, over in the official thread. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Perhaps his printer isn't calibrated ?
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Originally Posted By Reorx:
Perhaps... but that page is 8.5 inches wide and 14 boxes wide (printed) with 1.5 box (width) margins on the right and left (estimated) for a total of 17 boxes wide for the page (left edge to right edge)... 17 boxes x 1/2 inch (per box) = 8.5 inches! The calibration seems to be reasonably "on the money" to me... just sayin'... Originally Posted By Reorx:
Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Perhaps his printer isn't calibrated ?
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Originally Posted By HighpowerRifleBrony:
Center-to-center minus bullet diameter? |
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Originally Posted By Old_Painless:
No, outer edge to outer edge, minus bullet diameter. Originally Posted By Old_Painless:
Originally Posted By HighpowerRifleBrony:
Center-to-center minus bullet diameter? https://instagram.com/p/BgwCiW0jiPe/ . |
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Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Something may be askew with the measuring on that last group, over in the official thread. |
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Originally Posted By Defender3: Maybe he used the wrong bullet diameter or entered the wrong grid distance in the program? I measured them in OnTarget and came up with a wider spread and a larger overall MOA. At least he's trying! . |
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Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical: I hesitate to point it out as a few on here remember the young guy that went flippers over my off-the-cuff measuring comment a few years back. . |
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Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
I hesitate to point it out as a few on here remember the young guy that went flippers over my off-the-cuff measuring comment a few years back. . Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Originally Posted By Defender3: Maybe he used the wrong bullet diameter or entered the wrong grid distance in the program? I measured them in OnTarget and came up with a wider spread and a larger overall MOA. At least he's trying! . |
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Originally Posted By JessBrie:
A week ago you said placeholder bump in the official thread. Why are there no groups yet? . |
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Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
There is a reason the dinosaurs are extinct ...
Larue forgot to feed them?  . Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Originally Posted By JessBrie:
A week ago you said placeholder bump in the official thread. Why are there no groups yet?
Larue forgot to feed them? . |
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Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
There is a reason the dinosaurs are extinct ... . Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Originally Posted By JessBrie:
A week ago you said placeholder bump in the official thread. Why are there no groups yet? . |
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Originally Posted By sparkyD:
Originally Posted By sparkyD:
Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Originally Posted By JessBrie:
A week ago you said placeholder bump in the official thread. Why are there no groups yet?
Larue forgot to feed them? . |
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Originally Posted By Freakinout:
Hard to feed critters when you go from cracking the whip to doing fun airplane stuff Originally Posted By Freakinout:
Originally Posted By sparkyD:
Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Originally Posted By JessBrie:
A week ago you said placeholder bump in the official thread. Why are there no groups yet?
Larue forgot to feed them? .
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So, I’m in the process of designing a few rear bags. My GF sews, so I’ve got someone to complete the hard tasks for me. While trying to find out what bags are allowed (ongoing theme), I stumbled upon a few entries that left me puzzled.
The use of the large triad bag has been used in a few instances, but it seems like it’s way too big, right? It’s larger than a lot of bags that have been proposed or used that weren’t allowed. 
Also, while skimming through page 1 of the challenge thread to look at rules, I noticed that Mike P points out in his submission that it didn’t meet the criteria for a full submission, yet it is currently #1 in the SPR category. 
Impressive shooting, but skepticism grew when looking over his other entries in Akethans original post. He shot with a rear bag that was ruled as too large, but reshot later, with NO REAR BAG per his post, and produced an even better group! Posting a .503moa entry and staying it was shot with no rear bag at 100yds really made me question the authenticity of his other posts. Maybe it’s just me... The challenge is fun, but damn, after looking over the whole thread, there really seems to be some bias and leeway for certain entries. |
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I want to re-shoot my entry but want to confirm, is this Triad bag the one approved as the "Traid Wedgie" or is it too large?
TIA. 
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