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hmm interesting takeoff on monolithics technique
derivtive technique this guy make his own airforms out of cheap fabric, setups em up over a scaffold on the site and sprays it from the inside with urethane, and uses a single application of foam, sealing the rebar ties in with the first layer of shotcrete then hangs the rebar. Looks like this could be a significant time saving for DYI with a cheaper airform, and only a single day of foam application, rather then requiring the sub to be on site twice |
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hmmm yet another way, this one with low pressure....
LLoyd Turner he builds the airform out of tyvec or plastic sheeting held together by sewing, or tape... practically free airforms for 30' or so and smaller. and something I am considering as I have lots o time and not an abundance of cash... mortar sprayer fits a reasonable sized compressor, and the seller claims you could probably do six yards a day with a three man crew (one spraying two making and moving concrete) This would eliminate 15-20k of the equipment. I have found one company as well that has a method of foaming that is also simple compressor based (but costs about 3x the bulk stuff). Seems like you could DYI one with less then 2k in equipment. |
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Monolithics annual dome tour was this weekend. I went and checked out one about 3 hours away.
50' diameter ~24 feet tall , single story two bedroom layout, incredibly spacious and solid feeling. Little echoy from lack of a second floor, but was setup so that with a stairway and railings it had a ready made 700' loft. Cost em $112 sq foot done all by contractors, locals other then the shell. Could easily have doubled the square footage with not much more in materials, really knocking costs back per foot. |
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I also discovered Tiger Foam recently, these are kits of PE foam that come in propane-tank sized cylinders. The basic problem from what I can tell though, is that TF has the same cost per CF that you would pay a bulk PE contractor when all is said and done.
However, I have seen some available on Craigslist (people usually buy the stuff for home insulation jobs, and quickly realize it is better to let the pros do it than crack open all of your walls). |
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Originally Posted By Orion_Shall_Rise: Where in VA was this sir?Monolithics annual dome tour was this weekend. I went and checked out one about 3 hours away. 50' diameter ~24 feet tall , single story two bedroom layout, incredibly spacious and solid feeling. Little echoy from lack of a second floor, but was setup so that with a stairway and railings it had a ready made 700' loft. Cost em $112 sq foot done all by contractors, locals other then the shell. Could easily have doubled the square footage with not much more in materials, really knocking costs back per foot. Thanks! |
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pictures from monolithic of one that got hit by a tornado... F5 supposedly
all those scars in the foam are harddd impacts from flying debris. 
car appears to have flown into this side 
one fault in this familys build is shown, debris came in the standard glass window, and furniture was damaged |
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Originally Posted By Orion_Shall_Rise:
pictures from monolithic of one that got hit by a tornado... F5 supposedly http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/253662_1394274434885_1772929629_639193_497123_n.jpg all those scars in the foam are harddd impacts from flying debris. http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/252337_1394274234880_1772929629_639192_3253638_n.jpg car appears to have flown into this side http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/252142_1394275314907_1772929629_639196_261624_n.jpg one fault in this familys build is shown, debris came in the standard glass window, and furniture was damaged Where was this? Do you have a link to a news story? |
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The nature of those domes leads to lots of very open floorplans.
Regardless of the survivability of the outer shell, you still need a sufficiently sturdy full enclosable interior room to protect from flying glass and debris in a tornado. Those photos reinforces my thought that they really need a concrete shell on the outside instead of just the foam. |
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Originally Posted By Ropes4u:
With the bladder left in place wouldn't humidity be an issue especially in a state like Texas? Because the inside of most any 'underground' shelter, root cellar, etc, is likely to be considerably cooler than ambient, if the space is located where there is high humidity, there will need to be some good solutions to moisture condensing inside the shelter. Just like a cave. The easiest probably is to use lots of ventilation to bring up the inside temperature of the shelter, but it'll still be humid inside. Another way I've thought about for a while but never tried, is to use a coaxial heat/humidity exchanger, say 50+ feet long, so air is vented horizontally through a sort of long duct and cools incoming humid air passing as make-up air in a second inner duct, while condensing moisture in the inner duct and letting it run to a couple or more collection points. That could also be a source of water. |
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air exchange is an issue, as cooking, showering etc generate internal moisture, and CO2 build up as well, and the concrete. The dome itself is totaly waterproof..
You have to have a powered ventilation system as you could literally die of CO2 poisoning as they are so airtight. |
| We have a pair of concrete ones right next to each other, that are right next to a strip bar here in Colo Spgs. So directions are like "Go East on Austin Bluffs then turn left at the giant boobs." |
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I thought I would share a couple pictures of how I'm building domes now. I was contacted by an architect who showed me a better way to build to make the domes fit in better in certain areas, and also increasing their strength and durability. These are pictures he sent me, and not what I have built. Basically what we do now is to build a brick wall, as thick as you want, and then spray foam on the inside if the brick, then add the dome airform to the top of the brick wall, and inflate. Then we spray more foam inside the dome, and build it just llike we always do, rebar, and shotcrete. The brick wall is built a little diffrently to. When laying the brick, we put in a small steel plate in the joint and cement it in. This plate has a small steel rod about the size of an ink pen refill that is about 7'' long and sticks in towards the center or inside of the dome. We spray foam over it and it sticks through the foam and we tie it in with the rebar and shotcrete it in. Basically the brick is tied into the rebar and foam to keep it inplace no matter what hits it. Make sense? I love building this way. All doors and windows are already made to fit into a brick wall, so man hours are cut and time saved building holes in the dome. Next, you NEVER have to put a hole in the airform ever. The dome airform is nothing more than a roof now, and MUCH cheaper to build and buy. People now look at the build and don't think dome or iglo, but we still have all the bennies of the dome and more. Most people say, WOW, what a cool round building and by the way, what kind of roof is that? The sheeples mind safely turns off to igloo and dome. You can build the brick wall as tall as you want and have as many floors as you want. The rebar does not care how high it has to go for your home or whatever.  " target="_blank">
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Originally Posted By kaos:
Originally Posted By 1_BIG_BUNKER:
Nice to see you back, and that you've been busy.
Anyone miss me?
I'm just surprised there aren't any buttresses. Thanks, it's nice to be back....for a while away. Actually there is on the outside. They really serve no purpose once the foam is sprayed and the dome built. The brick wall needs foam on it BEFORE the dome is attached and inflated. If there isn't foam holding the bricks together along with mortar, the wall would blow apart with the air pressure when we start to inflate. Basically the foam acts like the steel rods that wrap a silo on the outside. That rod keeps the silo staves from blowing out when the thing is filled with silage. The foam is our rod on the inside as well as our insulation. Once the rebar is installed inside the dome and shotcrete applied, the brick is there for nothing more than looks, because it has no structural bearing on the dome. I mean if it is replacing airform material, how much did that airform material add to the strength of the dome in the first place.....none, and neither does the brick. Now a few things I like about brick besides looks, is it is much more durable than airform material of course, and actually cheaper. So, it does add strength when it comes to bullets or flying objects. You now have the width of the brick, 3-4 inches of foam and 4-7 inches of shotcrete between you and the outside. |
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Originally Posted By 1_BIG_BUNKER: Thanks for that.Originally Posted By kaos: Originally Posted By 1_BIG_BUNKER: Nice to see you back, and that you've been busy.Anyone miss me? I'm just surprised there aren't any buttresses. Thanks, it's nice to be back....for a while away. Actually there is on the outside. They really serve no purpose once the foam is sprayed and the dome built. The brick wall needs foam on it BEFORE the dome is attached and inflated. If there isn't foam holding the bricks together along with mortar, the wall would blow apart with the air pressure when we start to inflate. Basically the foam acts like the steel rods that wrap a silo on the outside. That rod keeps the silo staves from blowing out when the thing is filled with silage. The foam is our rod on the inside as well as our insulation. Once the rebar is installed inside the dome and shotcrete applied, the brick is there for nothing more than looks, because it has no structural bearing on the dome. I mean if it is replacing airform material, how much did that airform material add to the strength of the dome in the first place.....none, and neither does the brick. Now a few things I like about brick besides looks, is it is much more durable than airform material of course, and actually cheaper. So, it does add strength when it comes to bullets or flying objects. You now have the width of the brick, 3-4 inches of foam and 4-7 inches of shotcrete between you and the outside. I assumed the dome was on top of the brick wall, not a self contained wall/dome fab. I'm going to show that around. Are you up-to-date with a web page? |
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Originally Posted By kaos:
Originally Posted By 1_BIG_BUNKER:
Thanks for that.
Originally Posted By kaos:
Originally Posted By 1_BIG_BUNKER:
Nice to see you back, and that you've been busy.
Anyone miss me?
I'm just surprised there aren't any buttresses. Thanks, it's nice to be back....for a while away. Actually there is on the outside. They really serve no purpose once the foam is sprayed and the dome built. The brick wall needs foam on it BEFORE the dome is attached and inflated. If there isn't foam holding the bricks together along with mortar, the wall would blow apart with the air pressure when we start to inflate. Basically the foam acts like the steel rods that wrap a silo on the outside. That rod keeps the silo staves from blowing out when the thing is filled with silage. The foam is our rod on the inside as well as our insulation. Once the rebar is installed inside the dome and shotcrete applied, the brick is there for nothing more than looks, because it has no structural bearing on the dome. I mean if it is replacing airform material, how much did that airform material add to the strength of the dome in the first place.....none, and neither does the brick. Now a few things I like about brick besides looks, is it is much more durable than airform material of course, and actually cheaper. So, it does add strength when it comes to bullets or flying objects. You now have the width of the brick, 3-4 inches of foam and 4-7 inches of shotcrete between you and the outside. I assumed the dome was on top of the brick wall, not a self contained wall/dome fab. I'm going to show that around. Are you up-to-date with a web page? The airform is on top of the brick wall and attached to it. The brick wall just replaces the airform from the footing to the start of the curve. I'm not going to put up a web page on building domes. What I was thinking of doing, is maybe make a series of videos on start to finish on how to build a dome, and post it here for those who are interested in learning how to really build them without all the trouble, or at least have a place to come back to for trouble shooting a problem or questions. I'm not sure if I will or not, it just depends on the level of interest. It's a lot of video and talking to really explain things so people can build with confidence. |
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Originally Posted By blueheeler66:
Good to see you back on the site. I hope things have been good for you. I'd be real interested in your video series; or maybe you would submit it to YouTube? Did the Lafayette project ever come about? Hey blueheeler, how's it going? I could write a book about what has happened the past few years, but in the end, I do believe it's a blessing from God the way things turned out...........at least for me, not the Gulf. Well, I bought the 120 acres in Laffy, and while we were getting everything as far as permits and crap done, that oil well thing happened. The investor started getting cold feet when they couldn't stop the oil pouring into the Gulf. Long story short, he and his group backed out. I was back to square one. Everytime someone found out where I wanted to build, they weren't interested. One group I spoke to, through David South at Monolithic, were from Dallas. They were into this bio fuel thing. They liked what I was doing but they were trying to get funding for their project as well. So, what I did is I took a different approach to my problem by asking them what they need to get their project going. I thought hey, maybe one of these rich guys might be interested in funding them, and I could work out a deal to get myself funded as well. They said they needed $15m and if they had that to get started, and show what they could do, they had funding to complete not only that project but several others. I knew a guy from Toronto who loved bio fuels, so I called him and introduced the two groups. Again, long story short he invested in them, I got 1% of their company for putting them together, and once they close on their other funding source, they would give me a $5m LOC to get started, and use my 1% of the company as collateral. Once I'm started and show them what I can do, and what I can turn $5m into, I'm home free. Now that's not nearly enough for me to build what I want, but it is enough for me to build about 20 domes that are 7,000 square foot each and cash flowing $130k a month. Once I'm at that point, the bank said they would set me up with a LOC as well if I wanted it. Now with the domes being built with the brick front, the banks don't look at them funny, and the appraised value of them is higher. I say this is a blessing, because not only am I a share holder in a company who has a contract with General Mills for $312m over the next 10 years plus several other contracts, all of which I pull 1% off of, I get my project funded with NO partners and I have a MUCH better looking dome to build with the brick front, so that should make it VERY easy for me to build all over the USA. God willing. I have been taking this time thinking on how to make this project even better. What I did was I was thinking about what the people want and need, and what everyone is talking about these days, and that's affordable housing, being green and healthcare. So, I got the bright idea of talking to an insurance company about putting a healthcare plan together to offer people who are staying there, and making it VERY affordable, because of the volume we will be doing. The insurance guy gave me the deer in the head light look and said healthcare for a someone who rents from you????? I said yes, why not? I said you hear people say all the time I can't leave my job because of the insurance, so what if I put a twist on that and they start saying I can't leave my RENTAL because of the insurance? Brand new thought. I said think of how many people could be in this policy if I continue to build all over the country, and with the new look of the domes, they fit in VERY well. I said we're living in unique times and we need people thinking uniquely to get out of it. Besides, it will remove the burden of local business to provide it for their workers and in doing so, frees up more month for them. I said I'm going to be the WalMart of housing in this country. 
Once I have this going and cash flowing, I want to start working with local people who have great ideas and help them make their ideas and plans come together by funding them. I want to take a certain amount of money each month and get small business going in every location I build in. Kind of like paying back to the community. I will not only give them a loan, but I will also provide people to help them make sure that their business plan succeeds. These are the same people who help me along the way, and they are now helping Joe the plumber start a plumbing business and help him make all the right decisions so their business succeeds and I get my loan money back. Also, these people, their pay check depends on how well everyone does. If we have 100% success in every local business we start, they get a healthy bonus at the end of the year, if not, they may just lose their damn job. If you call them with a business question, they better be their to answer and help you. I don't want to give just out loans, I want to set up a net work that teaches them how to be successful and make the right decisions. People fail not for lack of trying or effort, but lack of knowledge. Also, since I have access to all my renters email, we can send out emails for say 25% off on a tire shop we started in town or a new beauty shop for some single mother who has no chance in hell of getting a loan from the bank. We are already providing the renters with disposable income for these people to be able to afford to go there and with another certain % off, why wouldn't they go, and forward the email to their friends?? Then what I want to do in the next few years, is to run for office. If REAL change is going to happen in this country, we need people not marching on Wallstreet, but running for office. I will run on what I have done for the people and not some BS hope and change crap. I can say I have done something to help with affordable housing, being green, and healthcare, plus create jobs. Hell, I'm willing to go on National TV and take a LIVE lie detector test right there in front of God and country to prove what I'm saying isn't a lie. I will pay for everything of course to include all those running against me to take the test with me. Seriously, if we can scan people at airports by they millions each day, can't we have some sort of high speed brain scan MRI lie detector that EVERY politician MUST take and pass before taking office? That would not only weed out the lieing bastards, but it would REALLY help with down sizing the gooberment. My goal is to be Governor within the next 10 years, and then if that goes well, and I'm in all 50 states building and funding other peoples goals and dreams and doing what I have said I would do, why not run for the Presidency? My goal is to win the people over and not take from them. I will fund everything myself and NEVER need a dime from any corp. so I will NEVER be in anyones pocket. I hope to have the peoples trust by showing them what I've done in the past for them and what I will do for them if given the power of the office. Again, God willing. I fear if someone doesn't do something, our children and country are screwed, and this is a war we the people will win, but we need work together as Americans. I wouldn't invest money back into every local area I build in if I thought for even a second we had no chance to come out of this and get our country back. We will win, I have no doubt. There's much more that I want to do for the people, like building them domes homes and I myself funding them and no more banksters, but this post is getting long, and I need to get some sleep. |
Next stop: Tudor style domes. You're almost there. 
Actually my brain is churning, that brick is an excellent idea and it game me a start of maybe something more. I'll have to think about it and see if it will work. The health care co-op concept isn't half bad, considering the number of businesses who are going to dump their employee coverage due to 0-care. |
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It seems that the brick laying would cost way more than just having the dome to the ground but if the bank considers it a "normal" building it would be worth it. EDIT> I would be VERY interested in a video series!
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Brick dome
looks similiar to what these folks did, comes out quiet nice it appears. Brick and brick laying is cheap in the south, many wood structures are false faced with it. Now does this just make it more appealing and less unusual for banks, or would it satisfy FHA loan guidelines for single family residential as well? ... still looking for land at my end, have seen lots of swamps and clearcuts
talked to one guy in the area who has built some before and he quoted me 1.40 bd/ft for 3lb foaming, does that sound reasonable these days? |
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Originally Posted By 1_BIG_BUNKER:
-snip- I'm not going to put up a web page on building domes. What I was thinking of doing, is maybe make a series of videos on start to finish on how to build a dome, and post it here for those who are interested in learning how to really build them without all the trouble, or at least have a place to come back to for trouble shooting a problem or questions. I'm not sure if I will or not, it just depends on the level of interest. It's a lot of video and talking to really explain things so people can build with confidence. Consider this an expression of interest. I f'ing love this thread. |
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Originally Posted By 1_BIG_BUNKER: If you need help on the video side of things, I'm your huckleberry!Originally Posted By kaos: Originally Posted By 1_BIG_BUNKER: Thanks for that.Originally Posted By kaos: Originally Posted By 1_BIG_BUNKER: Nice to see you back, and that you've been busy.Anyone miss me? I'm just surprised there aren't any buttresses. Thanks, it's nice to be back....for a while away. Actually there is on the outside. They really serve no purpose once the foam is sprayed and the dome built. The brick wall needs foam on it BEFORE the dome is attached and inflated. If there isn't foam holding the bricks together along with mortar, the wall would blow apart with the air pressure when we start to inflate. Basically the foam acts like the steel rods that wrap a silo on the outside. That rod keeps the silo staves from blowing out when the thing is filled with silage. The foam is our rod on the inside as well as our insulation. Once the rebar is installed inside the dome and shotcrete applied, the brick is there for nothing more than looks, because it has no structural bearing on the dome. I mean if it is replacing airform material, how much did that airform material add to the strength of the dome in the first place.....none, and neither does the brick. Now a few things I like about brick besides looks, is it is much more durable than airform material of course, and actually cheaper. So, it does add strength when it comes to bullets or flying objects. You now have the width of the brick, 3-4 inches of foam and 4-7 inches of shotcrete between you and the outside. I assumed the dome was on top of the brick wall, not a self contained wall/dome fab. I'm going to show that around. Are you up-to-date with a web page? The airform is on top of the brick wall and attached to it. The brick wall just replaces the airform from the footing to the start of the curve. I'm not going to put up a web page on building domes. What I was thinking of doing, is maybe make a series of videos on start to finish on how to build a dome, and post it here for those who are interested in learning how to really build them without all the trouble, or at least have a place to come back to for trouble shooting a problem or questions. I'm not sure if I will or not, it just depends on the level of interest. It's a lot of video and talking to really explain things so people can build with confidence. |
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Hi Orion, yes foam has gone up some because of the new EPA rules on the blowing agents. So a $1.40 isn't out of the question when you consider the amount of foam someone is buying at a time. Just keep in mind that every inch of thickness is another $1.40 so in the case of a dome, that's $4.20 per square foot because we spray 3'' of foam. I see you have a bunch of questions in past posts, are there still questions you have? I'm happy to answer them.
As far as what banks think, that's anyones guess and changes from bank to bank. For me, the bank was looking at my cost to build and cash flow. Bulldog, I have been talking about having someone working full time to film the whole construction project start to finsh and put together some sort of DVD to show people how to build and what the whole project is and does for any location we build in. You know, maybe have a few interviews of people living there, people in the city and what they think, what we offer and so on. Grimjaw5, there's nothing wrong with what you and your wife have come up with. I think you would be happier with a stem wall made of brick though unless you're really in love with a whole dome shape, and many are believe it or not. I just suggest putting in a stem wall of some sort just for easy of window installing. Also, will a brick wall, second and third floor balcony is MUCH easier to put in. I mean how cool would it be to have 120 sf balcony on the 3rd floor of a master bedroom? I see there's a lot of things I have missed in this thread, so I'm not going to go over them unless you still have questions. Yes Duggan, I have big plans, but I also have my plans laid out in a manner where everything is very realistic. People have to remember that this country wasn't broken in a year and it won't be fixed in a year. My father taught me that in order to understand these people in power, you have to start thinking like them and remember that they think and do things in terms of generations, not a few years. So take for instance they want to get central banks and the Fed Res going and then they know that their great children will be able to accomplish the next phase of a plan. This is put in very basic terms, but you get the idea. So, we have to start thinking the same way but in terms of what's good for the country and the people. Now the great thing we have going for us, is the masses. We can do things FASTER because the people will demand it. The powers that be now, do not have numbers so they do things slowly over time, and as each generation passes, we slowly become used to being slaves to a government and all the while not knowing the difference, because what do they say ALL THE TIME, we are protecting your freedoms. If you tell the people the same lie over and over they will believe it, and all the while never knowing what has been taken from them. Then we are constantly being distracted by new things, like the latest and greatest phone. Feed the people their new toys and they won't pay any attention to what's being done to them as far as their freedom and money. My plan is to go into cities where we have a few hundred thousand or more and build like I have said before. Then reinvest that money into the people and help them get their own small business going, help with bringing schools back up to standards, make monthly donations to the FD, EMT's, and PD. Start showing that if we look to ourselves to fix our problems, we don't need big gov. One of the first things I want to do is have Sheriff Mack talk to the PD and have him explain what the REAL role the police play and what kind of power they really do have. I believe that even the police know what's happening is wrong, but no one knows what to do or how to fix it. They are in fear of losing fed funding everytime they turn around. Well, my question is this, where does the fed gov get that money in the first place? The STATES, so why do we give it away and then beg to get it back? Let's keep our money and tell them to keep their fed funding. All it's going to take is for the leadership of state to stand up and say NO, we're not doing that anymore. The people will back leadership like that as will the PD. The PD has to know they won't get screwed by the state gov and left like the Bay of Pigs thing. For the cops, they're really caught between two worlds, and for lack of a better term, it's a shit sandwhich, take a bite or starve. We the people take back ONE state and the rest will follow. We will win, I have no doubt. I'm off my soap box now. Sorry for hijacking snakeshooters thread.
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Originally Posted By Desdinova721:
This thread is inspirational. I'm currently designing my own underground dome shelter; if you compare it to the prefabricated metal fallout shelters, building a dome seems like a far more cost effective solution. http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y258/_desdinova/shelter.jpg Anyway, here's my drawing. Not really sure about the scale, obviously not that big but big enough for a loft area for additional storage; the tunnels could also be used for storage; I like the idea of having more than one way in or out. The main entrance tunnel leads to the basement of the main residence, the escape tunnel comes out in a storage shed or detached garage or something where it can be hidden from view. Main entrance would also store NBC gear and be equipped for hosing off fallout/whatever. For the loft I figure ladder access for maximum economy of space with a block & tackle set up drilled into the dome to move stuff easily between levels... Kitchen area would be big enough for basic appliances and a small countertop, eating area is built into a small tunnel, under the benches is storage, reckon equip the space like the wardroom in a submarine... if someone gets injured, the space doubles as an infirmary. This space is also the shelter's command center/communications room. There's a ham radio station, hooked up to retractable antennas. There's also a computer hooked up to any automated systems/perimeter security. I dunno if it'd be best to use a chemical toilet or hook the latrine into the main septic/sewage system. I Figure there could be an advantage to purifying all grey water and using solid waste as compost. Living area is another tunnel expanding outward, since according to 1BB tunnels are cheap this seems like the best way to get extra square footage. With bunk beds on the walls just make the tunnel longer to support your # of people... Armory has to be big enough to hold all weapons/ammo but also a reloading bench and some basic smithing tools... this is also the shelter's workshop. The actual storage area is another tunnel with a heavy-duty steel door for security. The machine room holds the battery bank & inverter, diesel generator and fuel tank, water tank, and air filter... Any issues with this design? I love this kind of building.
Seriously though, why build it as a shelter? Why not build it as your home and your home IS your shelter? You never have to worry about forgetting something when you run to a shelter or worry about maintaining it either, because you live right there. Plus, the biggest thing is nothing in your life really changes if you close and lock the hatches for any event. That goes a long way for keeping some sort of normal life from day to day. In a nutshell though, everything is very doable, and as far as the tunnels and holes, that doesn't matter and the airform can be built in that shape. One thing though, is that each tunnel you have will be rounded at the end, but that doesn't matter and it makes it stronger. Something else that again won't matter because it's under ground, is the fact that you will have wrinkles in that airform after it's inflated, Again no one cares because it's underground, but if it was above ground, that may be something you wouldn't want to look at all the time. It doesn't have anything to do with strength, just looks on the outside, but the inside will be perfect. |
| Welcome back Bunker! I am glad this thread has come back to life. How much per floor sf are these brick / dome hybrids running for single family residential type of homes? The pictures you posted are great. I can see that the brick faced dome would have much more appraised value when appraised because they look more like a home. |
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I think I have enough answers, if not I have forgotten the questions
Moved back to maine, and have been looking for land. Would still love to build a dome, but with the current loan rules may have a hard time sinking all my cash into it when I may not be able to get it back out easily
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Originally Posted By 1_BIG_BUNKER:
Anyone miss me?
I thought I would share a couple pictures of how I'm building domes now. I was contacted by an architect who showed me a better way to build to make the domes fit in better in certain areas, and also increasing their strength and durability. More than a republican missing Regan at an Obama rally. When I first started reading this thread I figured wow - someone who knows the business and all and willing do do work - to - wow - he's moved "up town". I love the idea of the monolithic domes - been looking at their stuff for about a year. After looking at their design part of their moto must be anything worth doing is worth over doing. Make it safe, make it energy efficient - do it with both style and "funk" at an affordable price. When I saw the cement work on an archived thread I just said - book mark it - and hope I can find someone half as good when I am ready to put one up myself. |