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Posted: 5/8/2022 4:41:35 PM EDT
Looking to possibly change our camper.
Pic of current setup:   The setup we are looking at is available (39' in 5thW package) in either a 5th wheel or bumper pull. The 5th wheel will obviously pull a LOT better (and the truck has the 5th wheel prep package), but then I lose the ability to load up the box with the ATV and other crap. I don't have enough truck for a 5thW big toy hauler (have the 6.2 gasser, but have the 10spd trans), and the toy haulers don't have the setup we need. I always said I'd never buy another bumper pull, but then I like the ability to bring the ATV. Grrr. Input? |
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Posted: 5/8/2022 4:43:31 PM EDT
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Oh, before the comments, the truck was NOT squatting. The truck's rear axle was in a low spot compared to the front axle/camper axles. I have a very nice equilizer/stabilizer setup (properly). The truck/trailer ride level down the road with that setup.
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Posted: 5/8/2022 4:55:38 PM EDT
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You're in the same predicament I am. I don't have the truck to pull a toy hauler 5th wheel, and have not only a quad, but a dirt bike to put in the bed of the truck as well. I have a rack on the back, not pictured that we carry our generator(s) and portable black water tank on. We primarily dry camp, and rarely stay anywhere with hookups.
I think when the used car market slows down we'll get a dually, pay it off, then get a 5th wheel. I think when we do finally upgrade, it'll be a 5th wheel toy hauler. It just doesn't make sense financially to buy anything new or used at this time, unless you can find a smokin' deal somewhere. Our current setup.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/8/2022 5:12:16 PM EDT
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I have an anderson flip hitch for a gooseneck, but instead drop in a bnw companion 5th wheel hitch. Stays in the bed mostly, but doesnt have to.
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Posted: 5/8/2022 5:18:40 PM EDT
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My rig is 43 feet. Currently working on getting the spare wheel mouned beneath. That frees up the front power area for my genny inverters, inside.
Couldnt decide, and was tempted to mount on rear. I am always on hookups now, but want to get setup for dry camping. Ill need to reinforce the bumper for extra weight in the rear. Dream, would be a motorcycle carrier, attached to the frame behind bumper. Seen somenrigs with small sxss mounted that way. A thought. Fifth wheel, towing would be more secure, especially when getting parked and having to maybe 4x a little. |
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Posted: 5/8/2022 5:30:12 PM EDT
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I had a Flagstaff 32’ bumper pull, doing over a 5’er for sure.
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Posted: 5/8/2022 5:30:41 PM EDT
[#6]
I’m pulling a 37’ fifth wheel. The living space inside is great and feels like a home away from home. It tows great. Only issue I have is height. I’m about 13’-3” tall, so when I’m not on the interstates I get concerned about clearance and width. The fifth wheel tracks inside of hard turns. I do use an rv specific gps which has come in handy multiple times. Other than the size I love my fifth wheel.
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Posted: 5/8/2022 5:31:25 PM EDT
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I’d add that this is my first camper. I researched and saved for a couple years before I made my purchase. The one line that stuck out to me was “buy your third rv first” so I went big.
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Posted: 5/8/2022 5:34:41 PM EDT
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What's the payload on your truck and what is the pin weight on both?
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Posted: 5/8/2022 6:31:38 PM EDT
[#9]
Stick a frame mounted receiver hitch on the 5th wheel and pull your atv/trailer.
Unless you live in a commie state like Oregon that doesn't allow double pulls. I pull a 27' bumper pull with a 13' atv trailer and RZR no problem. My cummins doesn't even know it's back there. |
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Posted: 5/8/2022 7:37:53 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What's the payload on your truck and what is the pin weight on both? Truck payload is just over 4000 pounds. Not sure the tongue weight of this camper, but it is heavy. |
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Posted: 5/8/2022 7:53:49 PM EDT
[#11]
Keep what you have, pay it off, learn to live w/ what you have.
Winter is coming. |
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Posted: 5/8/2022 7:59:06 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted: Looking to possibly change our camper. Pic of current setup: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/165887/KIMG0760_JPG-2061117.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/165887/KIMG0747_JPG-2038054.jpg The setup we are looking at is available (39' in 5thW package) in either a 5th wheel or bumper pull. The 5th wheel will obviously pull a LOT better (and the truck has the 5th wheel prep package), but then I lose the ability to load up the box with the ATV and other crap. I don't have enough truck for a 5thW big toy hauler (have the 6.2 gasser, but have the 10spd trans), and the toy haulers don't have the setup we need. I always said I'd never buy another bumper pull, but then I like the ability to bring the ATV. Grrr. Input? What you load up in the bed counts towards your GWVR and can help overload you. A 39 ft 5er doesn’t have the extra 2 ft of tongue you need to fit into a parking space. Hooking up a 5er can be done by yourself much easier than a bumper pull even with a back up camera. The layout of a 5r is typically better than a bumper pull from what I’ve personally seen. Storage in the 5r could be better for you than a bumper pull. |
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Posted: 5/8/2022 8:52:48 PM EDT
[#13]
Keep what you have.
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Posted: 5/8/2022 9:31:58 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Keep what you have, pay it off, learn to live w/ what you have. Winter is coming. It is paid off, and the value of it is only a few thousand less than what we want. Damn near a swap. |
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Posted: 5/8/2022 9:33:29 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Keep what you have. We would have to make heavy mods and kill the resale value. The layout just isn't working anymore for our disabled son. |
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Posted: 5/8/2022 9:48:15 PM EDT
[#16]
I've seen racks that put the atv on top of the cab so you can pull a 5th wheel.
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Posted: 5/8/2022 11:09:02 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We would have to make heavy mods and kill the resale value. The layout just isn't working anymore for our disabled son. Ahhh. Fair nuff. ETA: Toy Hauler? Nice ramp in back. |
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Posted: 5/8/2022 11:48:37 PM EDT
[#18]
Worried a toy hauler will be too heavy, plus we haven't found one with a layout that will work.
He actually is mentally disabled, but has specific needs. |
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Posted: 5/9/2022 12:50:42 AM EDT
[#19]
How much are you getting for your current trailer?
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Posted: 5/9/2022 8:43:27 AM EDT
[#20]
You may not want to do it, but with a fifth wheel you could pull a small trailer behind it to put your toys on.
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Posted: 5/9/2022 11:15:35 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How much are you getting for your current trailer? Looks like this model and year is bringing $20-$25k We would be looking at another used 5ish years old. |
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Posted: 5/9/2022 11:16:37 AM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You may not want to do it, but with a fifth wheel you could pull a small trailer behind it to put your toys on. I know, but I'd rather not. I'm also worried it would be getting to be too much for my 6.2 |
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Posted: 5/9/2022 11:17:44 AM EDT
[#23]
I want to upgrade to something that size in a few years. I'll probably go fifth wheel.
Should have my new F250 in a week or so, so I'll have the option of going fifth wheel next time. |
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Posted: 5/9/2022 11:22:00 AM EDT
[#24]
I have had bumper pull travel trailers and now have 5th wheel. The 5th wheel tows far better than any of the bumper pulls by far. But it does suck to lose the bed space.
I have a short bed with auto sliding 5th wheel and it leaves very little room for any cargo. |
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Posted: 5/9/2022 8:20:37 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Keep what you have, pay it off, learn to live w/ what you have. Winter is coming. He’s right you know That’s why I passed on buying new 450, and kept my old one. |
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Posted: 5/9/2022 8:24:10 PM EDT
[#26]
I’d be worried a bit about the weight of a toy hauler with your truck. It’s nice, but the 6.2 may limit you some.
Do they make ultra light toy haulers? ETA: when you have a TH you don’t have to worry about bed space. You’ve got that garage behind you. |
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Posted: 5/9/2022 8:38:16 PM EDT
[#27]
I’d rather have a diesel and/or dully for a 5th wheel, and I’d have to be camping as such where I’m mostly at RV parks, going for long periods and need the space, etc. 30ft bumper pull is enough for my needs.
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Posted: 5/20/2022 8:07:22 PM EDT
[#28]
Fifth is the only way to go. Way better ride, more room, easier to park.
Get one with the living room up top. You won’t regret it |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 8:17:18 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Fifth is the only way to go. Way better ride, more room, easier to park. Get one with the living room up top. You won’t regret it Rear living room is best to me  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 8:30:24 PM EDT
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OP,,,Make a written "mission profile" for your RV needs over the next several years. You may be surprised at what RV will best suit you. We had everything from tents to huge fifth wheels and found that a 32' MH pulling a GMC Canyon with a small 12' trailer behind THAT with our CanAm worked incredibly well for us. I have been and am still surprised with how functional our setup is. Sometime we are MH only for short trips. Sometimes we are MH and towed truck only. Sometimes we haul everything everywhere we go. My point is to look years ahead when your dropping so much cash/debt.
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Posted: 5/20/2022 8:34:44 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Rear living room is best to me https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/126641/216843992_4369050119792486_6607414158176-2391077.JPG I like that layout too. I could never wrap my head around coaches/trailers that have the tv to the right or left of the couches/dinette and facing the sink. |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 8:46:32 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I like that layout too. I could never wrap my head around coaches/trailers that have the tv to the right or left of the couches/dinette and facing the sink. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Rear living room is best to me https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/126641/216843992_4369050119792486_6607414158176-2391077.JPG I like that layout too. I could never wrap my head around coaches/trailers that have the tv to the right or left of the couches/dinette and facing the sink. Yep, tv is in elevator in front of the recliners. 2021 Solitude 310GKR |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 11:09:58 PM EDT
[#33]
I lived in my B for years and never had a tv.
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Posted: 5/24/2022 3:45:11 AM EDT
[#34]
Run the numbers for your truck before you buy a fifth wheel. A 3/4 ton will not pull all fifth wheels. In fact anything over about 38 ft will needed a dually.
I had a 3/4 ton and the numbers just were not right so I had to go to 1 ton. Air bags do not add additional weight. A long box will give you room in your bend and will eliminate a slider hitch.I have an anderson ultimate hitch and it works fine for us. and it is easily removable. WE ended up with this set up. 
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Posted: 5/24/2022 12:46:00 PM EDT
[#35]
Our truck is a 1ton, payload capacity just over 4k pounds. 5th wheel tow capacity is about 13k
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Posted: 5/24/2022 12:50:31 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Keep what you have, pay it off, learn to live w/ what you have. Winter is coming. Very true, unfortunately. |
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Posted: 6/9/2022 8:30:44 PM EDT
[#37]
Having owned both, I wouldn't go back to a bumper pull. The fifth wheel handles better, turns better and the full length of the rig is living space instead of having the tongue. Having said that I do miss being able to use the truck bed when my hitch is in.
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