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Posted: 3/9/2021 8:29:05 PM EDT
Rounding out preps, I would like a way to filter water from my well in an extended power outage.
Well is an old hand dug one, concrete capped with a plug that can be removed fairly easily. I can then bail out water. If my well was "good" I would just leave it at that. I have high iron and hydrogen sulfide bacteria. This is not harmful, it can be consumed but does not taste good. Currently a big filter unit is in-line after the pump, that dumps into a softener. Water still tasted funky, so I put in an under sink RO, it works perfectly. In a pinch, I can run my well pump with a genny, would prefer to not have to use fuel on that. Berkey's still the hot thing? Price is kind of off-putting. Also have read that once the filters having limited life, and with my water being bad i wondered if it will be worse yet. Seems easy, and it can just sit on the counter and do it's thing. I've used several squeeze or gravity type filter and don't want to go that route to keep 3 people in drinking water. |
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I assume you are talking about SHTF scenario? With iron and H2S, I think treating it with a small amount of bleach plus filtration would do the trick.
The chlorine will oxidize the H2S and that taste/odor will be gone and it'll also precipitate the iron so it can then be filtered. I'd just get a 5 micron bag filter and run it through that, if you are trying to make a bucket or a drum of drinking water. |
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A Big Berkey is what we go with. It is an investment, but $278 is not a bad deal at directive21.com concerning the output you will get from it. If you join the membership at thesurvivalpodcast.com for $60ish/year you can get 10% off that price plus a free Berkey sport water bottle filter.
That membership will get you a whole lot more discounts as well. |
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Quoted: A Big Berkey is what we go with. It is an investment, but $278 is not a bad deal at directive21.com concerning the output you will get from it. If you join the membership at thesurvivalpodcast.com for $60ish/year you can get 10% off that price plus a free Berkey sport water bottle filter. That membership will get you a whole lot more discounts as well. View Quote I came here to recommend a Berkey filter as well. It does an good job of making just about any water good to drink. We use ours all of the time, not just SHTF and we drink more water because of it. I also got mine from directive21.com but I have not subscribed to their membership. First I tried to buy mine from one of the other dealers but they gave me quite a run-around. I cancelled the order after waiting weeks after I should have had my filter. I re-ordered from directive21 and got my filter within a few days. it isn't the cheapest filter but the cartridges are rated for 3,000 to 6,000 gallons. It is well worth the investment. 2Hut8 |
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The hollow fiber membrane filters like the Sawyer removes pathogens but will not remove bad taste or smell. The Berkey with black elements would be my choice also. Easy to maintain, pour the dirty water in the upper chamber and walk away.
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Quoted: I came here to recommend a Berkey filter as well. It does an good job of making just about any water good to drink. We use ours all of the time, not just SHTF ... it isn't the cheapest filter but the cartridges are rated for 3,000 to 6,000 gallons. It is well worth the investment. View Quote This^ We actually decided one was not enough for us and bought a second. Regarding filters. Life depends on what you’re running through it, big chunky material will clog it faster but if you’re just putting well water through you should be good for the longer advertised life of a filter. We put city water through ours and have to clean the filters every six months or so. The original set of filters is over 4 years old and the bottom ~2” no longer appears to filter but we are still using them, it saw about 5 gal a day for two years before we got the second Berkey then probably 3 gal every other day after that (we drain one then switch to the other one while the first filters a new batch). |
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Big Berkey. Even if you decide on on some sort on in-line filtration. Always keep a Big Berkey around.
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Are there any independent reports on the Berkey Black filter?
Does anyone know what the micron rating is? |
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Quoted: Are there any independent reports on the Berkey Black filter? Does anyone know what the micron rating is? View Quote There are but you really have to look for them. Look up NSF certification and things will start to show up. The bottom line is Berkey is not NSF certified and if you think their claims sound too good to be true it’s because they are. Berkey does not publish a micron rating for their products. |
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Every time I get to wanting one of these and start reading, there are just enough negative posts to give me second thought.
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There are but you really have to look for them. Look up NSF certification and things will start to show up. The bottom line is Berkey is not NSF certified and if you think their claims sound too good to be true it’s because they are. Berkey does not publish a micron rating for their products. View Quote Beowulf, What filter system would you suggest that has a good NSF certification that matches the original poster's needs? |
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Quoted: Beowulf, What filter system would you suggest that has a good NSF certification that matches the original poster's needs? View Quote Not really sure, I didn't offer anything up to the OP because I've never had to deal with the rotten egg smell. I just did a quick check and it looks like Doulton may be an option but again, I have no experience with it. http://info.nsf.org/Certified/Common/Company.asp?CompanyName=DOULTON&x=13&y=7 The links go to Doulton UK but there's a Doulton USA site you may want to look at. Specifically for the OP, NSF may not matter much. He'll know immediately if the filter works or not and know pretty darn quick when it stops working. Activated carbon works to filter this stuff out so the Black Berkey may work well for it. The folks that have recommended it in this thread seem to think so and I have no reason to doubt their experience. |
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Quoted: I have high iron and hydrogen sulfide bacteria. View Quote This is the reason that we bought the Berkey. It takes all of the rotten egg/sulfur smell and taste out of the water. I cannot say enough about how it improves the taste of the water. I like it better than the Ice Mountain brand bottled water which was my go-to before we bought the Berkey. Even my wife likes it. I use a GRAYL for "on the go" type of water filtration but the Berkey water tastes better. 2Hut8 |
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Windmill >water pump > home filter> tap .Well windmill
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Quoted: This is the reason that we bought the Berkey. It takes all of the rotten egg/sulfur smell and taste out of the water. I cannot say enough about how it improves the taste of the water. I like it better than the Ice Mountain brand bottled water which was my go-to before we bought the Berkey. Even my wife likes it. I use a GRAYL for "on the go" type of water filtration but the Berkey water tastes better. 2Hut8 View Quote Good info! Any issues with the filters getting clogged? How long have you been using it? |
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We also use Berkey black filters as our every day filter. It filters ALL our drinking/cooking water. We have very high iron, but no "rotten egg smell."
Tip for dealing with chunks and high iron: get some "dairy socks." They are used in the pipes for dairy operations to catch debris/hair from the milk (milk is nasty when you think about it.......) on it's way to the bulk tank. Take one, cut off the top, cut off another section to fit inside (to double up the filter) and slide that over the Berkey filter. Use a rubber band/string to tie the filter tight at the bottom. Just throw away the leftover piece, you will never use it. DRAMATICALLY increases filter life in our experience. Our Berkey filters get all the human detectible iron out of the water (no iron stains on our ice maker either, which gets Berkey water exclusively), but it does NOT get rid of the dissolved minerals, so we get deposits (most likely calcium, but I haven't had the deposits lab tested) built up on water bottles/ice maker, etc. Little vinegar every now and again and they are all like new. For a family of 5, including 2 adults and 1 teenager, we only have 1 filter in our bucket system at any given time (dual 5 gallon buckets, brand new, food grade). It supplies us with plenty of water. I keep a few years worth of filters on hand. For us, on our mineral rich well water, filters get about 4-6 months until the flow doesn't improve after cleaning enough to keep up with demand (the iron clogs the filters). In a pinch, you can squeak more life out of them by adding more filters to the bucket (I have our bucket drilled/plugged for fast addition of 2 more filters) and keep getting more water for a while. |
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+1 for Berkeys also. Bought one and now there are 3 in the family.
I also like these, almost the same but less expensive. They can use Berkey filters or other candle filters. I actually have ceramic filters in this one as they are cheaper and can't tell a difference in taste. Someone on ARF told me about these. St Paul mercantile I've bought a few things from them. |
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Quoted: Good info! Any issues with the filters getting clogged? How long have you been using it? View Quote No issues with it plugging. You can tell when the filters are getting plugged up because the bottom half of the filter stays submerged in water regardless of how long you let it sit. We have been running this set of filters for a year and they are still working just fine. We could probably make them last longer if we wanted to push it. Explanation: Twice a week we dump all of the water out of the filter and refill it. That puts about two gallons of filtered water down the drain each week. Maintenance: Once a month we disassemble the entire unit, run the metal and plastic parts through the dishwasher, and scrub the outside of the filter with a tooth brush. I know of people that have run their filters for three years. 2Hut8 |
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Quoted: A Big Berkey is what we go with. It is an investment, but $278 is not a bad deal at directive21.com concerning the output you will get from it. If you join the membership at thesurvivalpodcast.com for $60ish/year you can get 10% off that price plus a free Berkey sport water bottle filter. That membership will get you a whole lot more discounts as well. View Quote Hope you're not in a hurry if you order from directive21. I placed an order on 03/01/2021 and haven't heard an update from them since. |
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Been using a Big Berky for 20 years now. Our tap water is ok but the Berky makes it taste better and we don't get that chlorine smell. Every 3-4 months I use a scouring pad to wipe off the ceramic filters and then boil them for about 20 minutes. This rejuvenates the carbon.
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Quoted: +1 for Berkeys also. Bought one and now there are 3 in the family. I also like these, almost the same but less expensive. They can use Berkey filters or other candle filters. I actually have ceramic filters in this one as they are cheaper and can't tell a difference in taste. Someone on ARF told me about these. St Paul mercantile I've bought a few things from them. View Quote I have a friend that keeps putting off buying a Berkey because of the price. This just ended that excuse. Any issues with shipping? |
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Is the stainless stall spigot worth the extra $$$
Edit: Decides to buy a Big Berkey, used the code and it came out to $250 Thanks @sea2summit I bought this for SHTF/Everyday use. I had my water tested and it came back with a little iron in it (safe amount) but its throwing my taste buds off. Hopefully this will get rid of that problem for my drinking water |
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On year 13 of daily use of Katadyn ceradyn.
Zero issues. It ain't fancy and shiny like a Berkey but works. But then again...I'm an AK guy so fancy flashy shit ain't my style |
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Quoted: I have a friend that keeps putting off buying a Berkey because of the price. This just ended that excuse. Any issues with shipping? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: +1 for Berkeys also. Bought one and now there are 3 in the family. I also like these, almost the same but less expensive. They can use Berkey filters or other candle filters. I actually have ceramic filters in this one as they are cheaper and can't tell a difference in taste. Someone on ARF told me about these. St Paul mercantile I've bought a few things from them. I have a friend that keeps putting off buying a Berkey because of the price. This just ended that excuse. Any issues with shipping? @Ronin72 No issues on my side with shipping when I've ordered, I've ordered a few things from them including a water filter, also they have a nifty kerosene stove that I've been trying with a Hawkins pressure cooker. |
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Quoted: @Ronin72 No issues on my side with shipping when I've ordered, I've ordered a few things from them including a water filter, also they have a nifty kerosene stove that I've been trying with a Hawkins pressure cooker. View Quote Thanks for the review! I forwarded it to my buddy. Hopefully I will be able to get him squared away soon. |
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For a well the trick is getting the water out. I remember a torpedo device that allowed you to bail water from a well.
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Quoted: I have a friend that keeps putting off buying a Berkey because of the price. This just ended that excuse. Any issues with shipping? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: +1 for Berkeys also. Bought one and now there are 3 in the family. I also like these, almost the same but less expensive. They can use Berkey filters or other candle filters. I actually have ceramic filters in this one as they are cheaper and can't tell a difference in taste. Someone on ARF told me about these. St Paul mercantile I've bought a few things from them. I have a friend that keeps putting off buying a Berkey because of the price. This just ended that excuse. Any issues with shipping? A Berkey is just bling marketing around a centuries old technology. There are drip filters all over the place if he is worried about price. You can set a system up from under $30. This technology is used all over the third world for cheap. Katadyn was really the first to market the technology to aid agencies and then then public. Berkey just found a way to market it to Americans for $$$$. All you need it a couple of buckets and either a ceramic dome filter or a candle filter. Some designs even use ceramic potting pots. |
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Protus and John Henry brought the Katadyn Ceradyn filter to my attention many years ago. I bought one and have never had an issue with it. Just bulletproof.
https://www.katadyn.com/us/us/166-2110070-katadyn-drip-ceradyn |
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Had the Berkey setup for a week now and love it!
Makes my Well water taste perfect, best money spent |
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Quoted: On year 13 of daily use of Katadyn ceradyn. Zero issues. It ain't fancy and shiny like a Berkey but works. But then again...I'm an AK guy so fancy flashy shit ain't my style View Quote this is what i use as well for all my drinking water. i have 6 filters total. i rotate between them, i doubt i will ever wear them out! |
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