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Posted: 5/30/2020 1:53:59 PM EDT
You need a baby kit comprised of:
Iodine Shears Cotton 4x4 dressings Two cord clamps A black trash bag Full length plastic bottom bed chucks x2 A full pack of 4x4 chucks Tons of towels Gloves in bulk and a few sterile gloves And a do it yourself attitude.  Once the baby crowns catch it with a towel and prepare for water and blood. Labor went on from 4 am may 29th to 5 am may 30th. Without fetal heart monitoring i had to auscultate heart sounds below and lateral to the umbilicus. I was satisfied the baby remained in the proper position as evidenced by the prior ultrasounds indicating proper head down position as well as the repeatability of auscultating the fetal heart rate at the same position in the weeks leading to the due date. Once the head appeared the body presented within seconds. Once the body presented it was the splash zone. Leave cord attached for a few minutes and give baby to mom. Our cord was left for 5 minutes and studies show it will boost the Hemoglobin level of the baby by leaving the cord attached for 3-5 minutes. Then we clamped the cord close to momma and baby after placenta delivery. Clean with iodine and cut close to baby but obviously behind the clamp. Then apply more iodine to the cut stump. Post party supplies are going to be mesh underwear for mamma and lots of super absorbing pads. Enjoy baby. Edited for more how to. |
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Posted: 5/30/2020 1:56:52 PM EDT
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That's hardcore bro.
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Posted: 5/30/2020 2:08:30 PM EDT
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Birthing has been happening in caves and straw huts for hundreds of years.
Pretty simple process when all goes right. When things don't go right, not so much..... |
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Posted: 5/30/2020 2:20:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Birthing has been happening in caves and straw huts for hundreds of years. Pretty simple process when all goes right. When things don't go right, not so much..... Glad my wife was in the hospital when my son came out. Nearly lost both of them. |
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Posted: 5/30/2020 3:26:21 PM EDT
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Beautiful child congrats!! I couldn't talk my wife into a home birth. She has gone along with a lot over the years- eating storage food for years on end, homeschooling for 14 years, living in the middle of nowhere, living off of sometimes as little as 1,600 watts of energy, etc. but I couldn't talk her into home birth. Babies are the best, Praise the Lord for them!
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Posted: 5/30/2020 3:35:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Beautiful child congrats!! I couldn't talk my wife into a home birth. She has gone along with a lot over the years- eating storage food for years on end, homeschooling for 14 years, living in the middle of nowhere, living off of sometimes as little as 1,600 watts of energy, etc. but I couldn't talk her into home birth. Babies are the best, Praise the Lord for them! Thank you. The evolution from hospital for our first to home for 2 of our 5 was due to negative hospital experiences to include failed epidural and then on another occasion a spinal leak. The spinal leak and associated need for blood patching was one of the drivers to get out of the hospital for our next kids. |
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Posted: 5/30/2020 4:17:01 PM EDT
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Hospitals can be a major PITA to deal with. One local place we went for "lamonts" class
 while she was pregnant we were reeled off this huge list of vaccines the baby would get on DAY ONE. I asked about several of them that more or less related to if you were having unprotected sex or shooting up. This fat Karen nurse informed me clearly that "if you have your child in this hospital you WILL get all those vaccines on day 1." I smiled and said politely "well there's no way in hell we are having our child here but thanks for the info." Meanwhile another hospital not far away only wanted to do a Vitamin K shot on day 1- that's it, and that's where we went. When I was a kid, you didn't even get shots till you were 5-6 years old. Now they want to stuff them full of a dozen shots on Day 1? Like the baby hasn't been through enough on day 1!!!
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Posted: 5/30/2020 4:22:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Glad my wife was in the hospital when my son came out. Nearly lost both of them. First one of ours went sideways. Baby was on O2/ICU for the first 16 or so hours. |
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Posted: 5/30/2020 6:22:43 PM EDT
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Ballsy move...
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Posted: 6/1/2020 8:02:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hospitals can be a major PITA to deal with. One local place we went for "lamonts" class while she was pregnant we were reeled off this huge list of vaccines the baby would get on DAY ONE. I asked about several of them that more or less related to if you were having unprotected sex or shooting up. This fat Karen nurse informed me clearly that "if you have your child in this hospital you WILL get all those vaccines on day 1." I smiled and said politely "well there's no way in hell we are having our child here but thanks for the info." Meanwhile another hospital not far away only wanted to do a Vitamin K shot on day 1- that's it, and that's where we went. When I was a kid, you didn't even get shots till you were 5-6 years old. Now they want to stuff them full of a dozen shots on Day 1? Like the baby hasn't been through enough on day 1!!!I don't know what she's smoking. IIRC, Hep B is the only "day one" vaccine recommended. |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 11:45:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't know what she's smoking. IIRC, Hep B is the only "day one" vaccine recommended. Hep and vitamin K. Most kids aren't in the risk group for needed a hep vaccine, unless the mother is a I don't know that vitamin K is important either. I get that the vitamin itself has a use, but the injection of it? I think God made us perfect without the recommended vitamin K injection. Babies are pretty resilient. I gave my kids vitamin K drops instead. They didn't tolerate vitamin K drops very well so that didn't last long. I wasn't born in a hospital, my mother had a midwife, I was born on a farm. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 2:28:38 AM EDT
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Congratulations on a healthy birth and child.
It is helpful to have some lubricant on the glove when testing for dilation and head position. Perhaps not necessary, but any comfort at that time would be considerate. Perhaps you would consider adding it to your list. My wife and I have 8 children, the first was delivered at our midwifes house, the other 7 were delivered at our home. My 16 year old daughter was the midwifes assistant at the last birth. I don't think a hospital would have approved of that. Home births are in our opinion an ideal choice. They are less invasive, less regulated, less stressful, and we believe the ideal way to give birth. It is also far less costly for those who pay their own medical bills. The cost for the midwife and her assistant that we plan to use for our next home birth is $ 1,300.00. That includes all visits before the birth, but would not include medical testing or ultrasound. Personally, we just pick two names and skip the ultrasound. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 10:05:33 AM EDT
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Gratz.
Have a good placenta recipe? Chili? eta: yea its not GD, but you wouldnt be the first or second person I know that have done it. Last one did put it in a chili. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 10:11:12 AM EDT
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 Congrats |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 8:04:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Gratz. Have a good placenta recipe? Chili? eta: yea its not GD, but you wouldnt be the first or second person I know that have done it. Last one did put it in a chili. No we didn't do a chilli. But you do have to ensure the placenta is complete and intact to visual inspection. Any leftover placenta could prevent the uterus from contracting and could be a source of infection. |
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Posted: 6/14/2020 5:16:59 PM EDT
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If you want OB supplies make friends with someone in EMS.
You'd be amazed at how many OB supplies are tossed every month due to expiration dates. Our OB kits come preassembled with multiple components each having a separate expiration date. The expiration date on the kit is usually reflective of the earliest expiring component. One thing not on your list that I would recommend and is easy to acquire and requires little training is a bulb syringe for suctioning the infant's mouth and nose of amniotic fluid. A feel good item that I would want would be a neonate size BVM in case there wound up being some complications and the baby needed a little respiratory support. |
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Posted: 6/15/2020 10:19:47 AM EDT
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We did home birth for #2, attempted home birth #3. #3 wound up being emergency C Section.
We had hired midwifes though. I didn't get to "catch" any of our kids, at least not yet. |
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Posted: 6/15/2020 10:21:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Congratulations on a healthy birth and child. It is helpful to have some lubricant on the glove when testing for dilation and head position. Perhaps not necessary, but any comfort at that time would be considerate. Perhaps you would consider adding it to your list. My wife and I have 8 children, the first was delivered at our midwifes house, the other 7 were delivered at our home. My 16 year old daughter was the midwifes assistant at the last birth. I don't think a hospital would have approved of that. Home births are in our opinion an ideal choice. They are less invasive, less regulated, less stressful, and we believe the ideal way to give birth. It is also far less costly for those who pay their own medical bills. The cost for the midwife and her assistant that we plan to use for our next home birth is $ 1,300.00. That includes all visits before the birth, but would not include medical testing or ultrasound. Personally, we just pick two names and skip the ultrasound. Cheapest midwife around here is $5k. The last one we hired was $6500, still ended up going in for an emergency C section. |
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Posted: 6/15/2020 10:21:27 AM EDT
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Both of my kids were born at home.
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Posted: 6/15/2020 10:29:51 AM EDT
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you got lucky man. Don’t be a damn fool with the life of your baby and it’s mother next time.
So many things can go wrong in childbirth and cause death of mother and baby if not immediately treated. You got a NICU at home for resuscitation if baby comes out gray? Or an OR if mom suffers placenta previa or abrution and dies bleeding to death and in severe pain? Trust me I have seen this firsthand in the ER, and the woman needs surgery immediately, or she dies. Like before the ambulance can even get to you. |
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Posted: 6/15/2020 10:49:13 AM EDT
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Quoted: You need a baby kit comprised of: Iodine Shears Cotton 4x4 dressings Two cord clamps A black trash bag Full length plastic bottom bed chucks x2 A full pack of 4x4 chucks Tons of towels Gloves in bulk and a few sterile gloves And a do it yourself attitude. http://www.thenewrifleman.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/20200530_110943.jpg Once the baby crowns catch it with a towel and prepare for water and blood. Labor went on from 4 am may 29th to 5 am may 30th. Without fetal heart monitoring i had to auscultate heart sounds below and lateral to the umbilicus. I was satisfied the baby remained in the proper position as evidenced by the prior ultrasounds indicating proper head down position as well as the repeatability of auscultating the fetal heart rate at the same position in the weeks leading to the due date. Once the head appeared the body presented within seconds. Once the body presented it was the splash zone. Leave cord attached for a few minutes and give baby to mom. Our cord was left for 5 minutes and studies show it will boost the Hemoglobin level of the baby by leaving the cord attached for 3-5 minutes. Then we clamped the cord close to momma and baby after placenta delivery. Clean with iodine and cut close to baby but obviously behind the clamp. Then apply more iodine to the cut stump. Post party supplies are going to be mesh underwear for mamma and lots of super absorbing pads. Enjoy baby. Edited for more how to. Get the cold packs if you know where to get them. The woman will thank you. And congratulations |
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Posted: 6/15/2020 1:17:05 PM EDT
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Had both of our kids at home. Local midwife group is excellent, and provides services from conception to post-birth. Cost is $3-6k, on a voluntary sliding scale. They do all the prenatal visits, tests, paperwork, and post partum follow ups.
Homebirth isn't for everyone, but like was said previously, humans have been giving birth at home since the beginning of our existence. |
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Posted: 6/15/2020 2:25:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: you got lucky man. Don’t be a damn fool with the life of your baby and it’s mother next time. So many things can go wrong in childbirth and cause death of mother and baby if not immediately treated. You got a NICU at home for resuscitation if baby comes out gray? Or an OR if mom suffers placenta previa or abrution and dies bleeding to death and in severe pain? Trust me I have seen this firsthand in the ER, and the woman needs surgery immediately, or she dies. Like before the ambulance can even get to you. We are very aware of the potential complications. We chose to have the baby at home for numerous reasons. Multigravida with no history of htn, diabetes, and no other outstanding health history gives birth to a child with head down presentation as evidenced by weekly prenatal ultrasound and auscultated heart in same anatomical position regularly to ensure presentation remained typical. I did the blood pressure monitoring and scored APGAR myself as well as documenting weight, length, and a head to toe mini assessment on the baby. My wife and I have some medical background, but the truth is home birth was something that we would do again to stay out of the ludicrous hospital system. This is a survival forum and during a pandemic its perfectly reasonable to accept the risks and stay at home. The pandemic is only a small part of why we did it... there is nothing better than being at home with your wife and little one. Total out of pocket cost was $120 for the birthing kit. 
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Posted: 6/15/2020 3:17:37 PM EDT
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Awesome. Thanks for sharing OP. Maybe there is hope for the future!
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Posted: 6/15/2020 3:49:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We are very aware of the potential complications. We chose to have the baby at home for numerous reasons. Multigravida with no history of htn, diabetes, and no other outstanding health history gives birth to a child with head down presentation as evidenced by weekly prenatal ultrasound and auscultated heart in same anatomical position regularly to ensure presentation remained typical. I did the blood pressure monitoring and scored APGAR myself as well as documenting weight, length, and a head to toe mini assessment on the baby. My wife and I have some medical background, but the truth is home birth was something that we would do again to stay out of the ludicrous hospital system. This is a survival forum and during a pandemic its perfectly reasonable to accept the risks and stay at home. The pandemic is only a small part of why we did it... there is nothing better than being at home with your wife and little one. Total out of pocket cost was $120 for the birthing kit. http://www.thenewrifleman.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/20200602_230408-e1592246718969.jpg As to the part in bold/red, I applaud you and your wife(?) for having a set point "trigger", enabling your SHTF master plan after that trigger event occurred, and sticking to it. You seemed to have sufficient knowledge/equipment to do what you needed to do, and you understood the risks of un-assisted home birth. Everybody will Monday-morning QB the situation, as should you engage in introspective/retrospective thought, and in that thought you should get ready for what the interwebs will say. Just make DAMN SURE you never give the internet a chance to AROCK you, as some states' social services will love you tenderly for an un-assisted home birth. ETA: Congrats on the crazy cute baby! |
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Posted: 6/15/2020 4:11:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Birthing has been happening in caves and straw huts for hundreds of years. Pretty simple process when all goes right. When things don't go right, not so much..... This right here. I'm glad everything went well for the OP but I'd rather be in a hospital where everything is within arms reach if SHTF. People complain about the seeming excess of modern healthcare right up until things go sideways and all those overpaid specialists and overpriced machines are Johnny-on-the-spot. |
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Posted: 6/15/2020 4:12:54 PM EDT
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OP did it right. Pregnancy is not a disease.
I caught my 3rd at home. We had a home birth with midwife, DR on call. Start to finish was about 2 hours. |
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Posted: 6/15/2020 4:14:54 PM EDT
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My "DIY" attitude stops at conception
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Posted: 6/15/2020 5:01:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: OP did it right. Pregnancy is not a disease. I caught my 3rd at home. We had a home birth with midwife, DR on call. Start to finish was about 2 hours. I had a feeling you were a man of focus and impeccable talent. |
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Posted: 6/15/2020 5:06:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Gratz. Have a good placenta recipe? Chili? eta: yea its not GD, but you wouldnt be the first or second person I know that have done it. Last one did put it in a chili. Dehydrated, ground to powder, encapsulated. Stretch out the bennies for weeks! I delivered our first at home, midwife was present but we had enough history together she was a verbal assist only. Next two were hospital birth shit-shows... One doctor maimed my wife. |
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Posted: 6/18/2020 12:58:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: $1300 Cheapest midwife around here is $5k. The last one we hired was $6500, still ended up going in for an emergency C section. Home births are common in our area, and the numbers are only increasing. There are several midwife teams to choose from, as well as several midwifes that offer their homes for the birth if that is wished. The ones we are using this time are extra busy due to the number of people who do not wish to enter a hospital due to the covid & risk infection. Some of them have a formal medical education, but the closest one ( within 2 miles of our home) has only attended a few day classes. She does however have several thousand births in her 40+ years of experience. My daughter was scheduled to intern with her as she needed an assistant and a driver, but my daughters marriage interfered with that plan and it never happened. Now my daughter and wife are both due with child within a few weeks of each other. Our birth will be at home, my daughter is planning to give birth at the midwifes house. They are both using the same midwife, just not the closest one. No one will be eating the placenta however - that's just nasty to even think about. |
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Posted: 6/21/2020 9:26:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Birthing has been happening in caves and straw huts for hundreds of years. Pretty simple process when all goes right. When things don't go right, not so much..... When things don't go right with home deliveries the baby is either permanently damaged, or dies. Then you're also in a race to save the mother's life. That's the reality of it. |
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Posted: 6/22/2020 10:47:02 PM EDT
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That's impressive
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Posted: 6/26/2020 1:44:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When things don't go right with home deliveries the baby is either permanently damaged, or dies. Then you're also in a race to save the mother's life. That's the reality of it. Yep, I work for a medevac company based out of Anchorage AK if I see a flight headed to Homer 3 out of 4 times it will be a home birth gone wrong and the baby is getting brought back to Anchorage to go to the NICU over the last two months we have averaged at least one a week. Personally all three of my children were born in the hospital my first wound up an emergency c-section and my youngest had meconium and was a code white with a birth apgar of 1. |
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Posted: 6/30/2020 11:31:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hep and vitamin K. Most kids aren't in the risk group for needed a hep vaccine, unless the mother is a I don't know that vitamin K is important either. I get that the vitamin itself has a use, but the injection of it? I think God made us perfect without the recommended vitamin K injection. Babies are pretty resilient. I gave my kids vitamin K drops instead. They didn't tolerate vitamin K drops very well so that didn't last long. I wasn't born in a hospital, my mother had a midwife, I was born on a farm. Babies aren't 'resilient' to filling their heads with blood. They are permanently maimed. And while we were created perfect before the fall, afterwards, we are born anything but. Stroll through an academic medical center NICU and you'll see more than a lifetime worth of heartache and sadness in just 10 minutes. |
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Posted: 7/13/2020 12:15:11 AM EDT
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Congrats! I'm glad this worked out well. What was your plan if she had a laceration?
Quoted: Hep and vitamin K. Most kids aren't in the risk group for needed a hep vaccine, unless the mother is a I don't know that vitamin K is important either. I get that the vitamin itself has a use, but the injection of it? I think God made us perfect without the recommended vitamin K injection. Babies are pretty resilient. I gave my kids vitamin K drops instead. They didn't tolerate vitamin K drops very well so that didn't last long. I wasn't born in a hospital, my mother had a midwife, I was born on a farm. Ignorance is bliss I reckon. Do you give your kids routine childhood vaccinations, or are they still perfect? |
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Posted: 7/13/2020 12:34:36 AM EDT
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Congrats, OP. CSB
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