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Posted: 2/10/2020 11:46:14 AM EDT
I tried a search with no luck! Does anyone remember or have the plans for the homer buckets filtration system?
thanks in advance! 
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Posted: 2/10/2020 12:17:10 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/10/2020 1:12:48 PM EDT
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Just buy a food grade 5 gallon bucket, spigot and a ceramic candle filter. You will get better water quality with a lot less hassle.
https://stpaulmercantile.com/ceramic-and-carbon-block-filters |
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Posted: 2/10/2020 5:01:22 PM EDT
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I tried a search with no luck! Does anyone remember or have the plans for the homer buckets filtration system? thanks in advance! |
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Posted: 2/10/2020 6:31:26 PM EDT
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New food grade buckets, SS spigot, berkey filters.
We have been using this exact setup for a long time now. |
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Posted: 2/10/2020 7:46:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Homer buckets aren't food grade so you shouldn't be using them to build a water filter. 
Anyways they would be cleaner than dirty ass ciry water pipes/towers/wells |
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Posted: 2/10/2020 10:37:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Uh the water goes out the filter
Anyways they would be cleaner than dirty ass ciry water pipes/towers/wells |
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Posted: 2/10/2020 11:20:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Only an idiot would knowingly introduce a contaminant into the water they were trying to filter. And if doing that isn’t stupid enough (and it is), filters have a finite life. Adding additional chemicals to the water, just to filter them back out, is going to use up the filter just that much sooner. Food grade buckets are readily available and there’s no good reason not to use them. So tell me what " contaminate" would be added by using a homer bucket vs a food grade bucket before the filter?? Ill be standing by for a logical response. If you do, please list any/all chems that will be added due to h2o solubility accounting for Ph and temp that won't be taken out by the filter. Please list as an example "ordinary" contamints used in bucket manf and explain how propogated their use is in the industry. Can you explain how the ( if any) extra chemicals will affect the filter life. Please express this in a quanity vs time/volume as related to each filter. If you cannot answer any of this then tell me why you even responded. You called me a idiot. Lets seehow smart you are. @beowulf |
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Posted: 2/11/2020 7:32:52 AM EDT
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"No good reason" So tell me what " contaminate" would be added by using a homer bucket vs a food grade bucket before the filter?? Ill be standing by for a logical response. If you do, please list any/all chems that will be added due to h2o solubility accounting for Ph and temp that won't be taken out by the filter. Please list as an example "ordinary" contamints used in bucket manf and explain how propogated their use is in the industry. Can you explain how the ( if any) extra chemicals will affect the filter life. Please express this in a quanity vs time/volume as related to each filter. If you cannot answer any of this then tell me why you even responded. You called me a idiot. Lets seehow smart you are. @beowulf |
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Posted: 2/11/2020 3:09:22 PM EDT
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The virus issue has a lot of folks stressed.
Let's consider what we post and be constructive. If all one has available is a Homer bucket, then use it. If a 'food grade' bucket is available, use it. I expect the difference is the cleaning process when the bucket was mfgr'd, since the plastic markings are the same, but I never saw a specification and don't know. |
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Posted: 2/12/2020 9:33:45 AM EDT
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Right now, getting (some) products isn't a concern. Why improvise? It may be all well and good but if you are going to use "store bought" filters, why wouldn't you just purchase the stainless container too and take away all the questions of safety?
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Posted: 2/12/2020 10:29:52 AM EDT
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"No good reason" So tell me what " contaminate" would be added by using a homer bucket vs a food grade bucket 
I would be more concerned about dirty rocks. Real, pro-grade water filters aren't that expensive. Field expedient is one thing, but if you have time and money to prep, buy some decent shit and skip a few Big Macs that month. I have a dual canister filter system and pump in my office that cost less than $200. It will remove everything from water, including dye. Very true point: filters have a finite life. |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 5:33:44 PM EDT
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Muh BPAs.
I would be more concerned about dirty rocks. Real, pro-grade water filters aren't that expensive. Field expedient is one thing, but if you have time and money to prep, buy some decent shit and skip a few Big Macs that month. I have a dual canister filter system and pump in my office that cost less than $200. It will remove everything from water, including dye. Very true point: filters have a finite life. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"No good reason" So tell me what " contaminate" would be added by using a homer bucket vs a food grade bucket
I would be more concerned about dirty rocks. Real, pro-grade water filters aren't that expensive. Field expedient is one thing, but if you have time and money to prep, buy some decent shit and skip a few Big Macs that month. I have a dual canister filter system and pump in my office that cost less than $200. It will remove everything from water, including dye. Very true point: filters have a finite life. |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 10:21:10 PM EDT
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Just buy a food grade 5 gallon bucket, spigot and a ceramic candle filter. You will get better water quality with a lot less hassle. https://stpaulmercantile.com/ceramic-and-carbon-block-filters Looking at the pictures of the ceramic filters, I think I can see a threaded male 'stem' and a few pictures have a corresponding female threaded wingnut/collar looking thing. Am I seeing that right? Does this just secure through a hole you'd put in the bucket? Do rubber washers or O-rings come included to prevent drips and ensure a good seal? |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 11:20:33 PM EDT
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Instead of Homer buckets, just go buy large stainless steel pots, e.g., turkey frying pots. There was a thread on arfcom of a guy who moved to Alaska or Northern Idaho, I don't remember which but he built a small cabin off-grid and made is own burkey setup using large cooking/turkey frying pots.
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Posted: 2/16/2020 12:13:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @BFskinner Looking at the pictures of the ceramic filters, I think I can see a threaded male 'stem' and a few pictures have a corresponding female threaded wingnut/collar looking thing. Am I seeing that right? Does this just secure through a hole you'd put in the bucket? Do rubber washers or O-rings come included to prevent drips and ensure a good seal? |
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Posted: 2/16/2020 1:00:55 AM EDT
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Um, Homer buckets are food grade. HDPE 70mil. Go look. The orange buckets are marked same as the white ones HD sells as "food grade" except they're white. And a buck twenty eight more. FDA lists LDPE, HDPE, polyethylene tet, polypropolene, polycarbonate as safe for food contact. The black gamma lids they sell for these buckets are also food grade. The 3.5 gal buckets are more compact, check the height for your filter(s) though. Also food grade.
Use a hole saw to cut the holes in a bucket bottom for the filters. Berkey, whatever. That's your top bucket. Bottom bucket put a spigot near the bottom. Take a lid, cut it out just inside the rim or just enough for the filter outlets to stick through. Top bucket sits on that. Fill it with water. Shazzam. |
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Posted: 2/16/2020 2:18:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Instead of Homer buckets, just go buy large stainless steel pots, e.g., turkey frying pots. There was a thread on arfcom of a guy who moved to Alaska or Northern Idaho, I don't remember which but he built a small cabin off-grid and made is own burkey setup using large cooking/turkey frying pots. |
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Posted: 2/16/2020 7:14:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @BFskinner Looking at the pictures of the ceramic filters, I think I can see a threaded male 'stem' and a few pictures have a corresponding female threaded wingnut/collar looking thing. Am I seeing that right? Does this just secure through a hole you'd put in the bucket? Do rubber washers or O-rings come included to prevent drips and ensure a good seal? The product description indicates the candle comes with a nut and washer for the stem. So to answer your question you would need two buckets stacked on one another. The upper with a hole in the bottom for the candle filter and the lower with the spigot that holds the filtered water. Basically just a plastic version of a Berkey filter. It looks like St. Paul is running a 20% off special right now on complete stainless steel reservoir systems. Depending upon your needs you might get off almost as cheap buying a completed one as opposed to DIYing it. My experience in buying the stove from them is that they are GTG as far as in internet vendor. Very prompt shipping, the stove was double boxed and arrived completely undamaged. |
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Posted: 2/16/2020 9:25:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
@BFskinner Looking at the pictures of the ceramic filters, I think I can see a threaded male 'stem' and a few pictures have a corresponding female threaded wingnut/collar looking thing. Am I seeing that right? Does this just secure through a hole you'd put in the bucket? Do rubber washers or O-rings come included to prevent drips and ensure a good seal? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just buy a food grade 5 gallon bucket, spigot and a ceramic candle filter. You will get better water quality with a lot less hassle. https://stpaulmercantile.com/ceramic-and-carbon-block-filters Looking at the pictures of the ceramic filters, I think I can see a threaded male 'stem' and a few pictures have a corresponding female threaded wingnut/collar looking thing. Am I seeing that right? Does this just secure through a hole you'd put in the bucket? Do rubber washers or O-rings come included to prevent drips and ensure a good seal? Full-Auto |
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Posted: 2/16/2020 9:37:35 AM EDT
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Home Depot Homer buckets are not food grade. We know this because Home Depot, the only source of reliable information on the subject, says they’re not. It’s right in the description of the product on the Home Depot web site.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/The-Home-Depot-5-Gal-Homer-Bucket-05GLHD2/100087613 Quoted:
I actually called the company that makes the buckets at HD. I was asking for fermenting beer and wine. They told me that yes, they are food grade, but HD didn't want to pay to market them this way. That was back 5 - 10 years ago. Don't thnk that has changed Quoted:
Um, Homer buckets are food grade. HDPE 70mil. Go look. The orange buckets are marked same as the white ones HD sells as "food grade" except they're white. And a buck twenty eight more. FDA lists LDPE, HDPE, polyethylene tet, polypropolene, polycarbonate as safe for food contact. The black gamma lids they sell for these buckets are also food grade. The 3.5 gal buckets are more compact, check the height for your filter(s) though. Also food grade. |
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Posted: 2/16/2020 11:44:12 AM EDT
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Found what I was looking for. One of our own Arfcommers built a homemade burkey using 16-quart metal pots and burkey filters. He gave a brief tutorial in his thread on building a cabin in North Idaho. here The posts are about 1/4 way down the page.
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