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Posted: 2/18/2020 3:04:41 AM EDT

Home Improvement Stores Denatured -Ethyl- Alcohol ~$16/gallon

Not gelled.

~100%

Use tap water to dilute.

Posted: 2/18/2020 4:12:35 AM EDT

[#1]

Disregard. Thought OP was trying to dilute denatured alcohol to drink. Sorry OP seems this is COVID related.

Posted: 2/18/2020 5:46:18 AM EDT

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why am i wanting denatured alcohol and why am i watering it down?

Posted: 2/18/2020 9:52:45 AM EDT

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OP, I hope you are NOT suggesting DRINKING denatured alcohol.

If ingested, immediately call a Mortician.

Posted: 2/18/2020 10:12:48 AM EDT

[#4]

Denatured means messed with, not natural. Yucky.

From wiki:

...is ethanol that has additives to make it poisonous, bad-tasting, foul-smelling, or nauseating to discourage recreational consumption. It is sometimes dyed so that it can be identified visually. Pyridine, methanol,[2] or both can be added to make denatured alcohol poisonous, and denatonium can be added to make it bitter.

Denatured alcohol is used as a solvent and as fuel for alcohol burners and camping stoves. Because of the diversity of industrial uses for denatured alcohol, hundreds of additives and denaturing methods have been used. The main additive has traditionally been 10% methanol, methyl alcohol, giving rise to the term "methylated spirits". Other typical additives include isopropyl alcohol, acetone, methyl ethyl ketone, and methyl isobutyl ketone.[2]

Posted: 2/18/2020 11:50:06 AM EDT

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why am i wanting denatured alcohol and why am i watering it down?

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to get ahead of the panic, so many keep pushing for

Posted: 3/17/2020 2:13:32 PM EDT

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How has this ignoring the panic worked out so far?

Posted: 3/17/2020 2:18:35 PM EDT

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Important info:

- Many regular denatured alcohols are ~50% ethanol with the balance often methanol per the SDS's. Methanol is pretty toxic and readily absorbs through the skin.

- "Green" denatured alcohol is usually 95% ethanol with a small amount of water & methanol. This is significantly safer if you intend to use it often with skin contact.

Posted: 3/17/2020 2:44:37 PM EDT

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Important info:

- Many regular denatured alcohols are ~50% ethanol with the balance often methanol per the SDS's. Methanol is pretty toxic and readily absorbs through the skin.

- "Green" denatured alcohol is usually 95% ethanol with a small amount of water & methanol. This is significantly safer if you intend to use it often with skin contact.

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yep its poisonous to use it on the skin, also methanol doesn't kill pathogens as well as ethanol.

last resort, if that

Posted: 3/17/2020 3:00:34 PM EDT

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Don’t use denatured!!! Many times it’s denatured with methyl alcohol. Methyl is a neurotoxin and can be absorbed though the skin.

Posted: 3/17/2020 3:41:06 PM EDT

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I'm glad for this info. I was going to get some and mix it with aloe gel. Not any more.

You could distill out the methanol, since its boiling point of 67.7°C is quite a bit lower than ethanol's 78.24°C

But unless you have a lot of experience with making moonshine, it's probably not worth it.

Posted: 3/19/2020 5:48:58 AM EDT

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I'm glad for this info. I was going to get some and mix it with aloe gel. Not any more.

You could distill out the methanol, since its boiling point of 67.7°C is quite a bit lower than ethanol's 78.24°C

But unless you have a lot of experience with making moonshine, it's probably not worth it.

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A friend called me 2 weeks ago, said he was mixing up denatured with aloe, and I asked him to review the MSDS for the Home Depot stuff.

Full stop.

We may distill it but I have to get preps [not the usual kind] completed, and get out of Dodge, and it will take a couple more days.

Wish I had worked on all this weeks ago, more heavily than I did.

Posted: 3/19/2020 11:48:29 AM EDT

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Can be used for stoves though. Lots of backpackers use alcohol stoves.

Posted: 3/19/2020 12:29:10 PM EDT

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Quoted:
I'm glad for this info. I was going to get some and mix it with aloe gel. Not any more.

You could distill out the methanol, since its boiling point of 67.7°C is quite a bit lower than ethanol's 78.24°C

But unless you have a lot of experience with making moonshine, it's probably not worth it.

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It's easier and cheaper to make ethonal.
Unless you use a fractional or a boka you're not separating it with certainty

Posted: 3/19/2020 12:35:13 PM EDT

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Dumb question: Why not use Everclear alcohol from a liquor store? Please don't tell me it's sold out as well. This is what I used to make more hand sanitizer. I always keep Everclear as a part of my preps. It will be the #1 barter item if things get real bad.

BTW, mixing perfectly good ethyl alcohol with poison, should be a felony, a crime against the humanity!

LOL.

Posted: 3/19/2020 1:14:34 PM EDT

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Dumb question: Why not use Everclear alcohol from a liquor store? Please don't tell me it's sold out as well. This is what I used to make more hand sanitizer. I always keep Everclear as a part of my preps. It will be the #1 barter item if things get real bad.

BTW, mixing perfectly good ethyl alcohol with poison, should be a felony, a crime against the humanity!

LOL.

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you can, but like most paces its gone.

depending on the state you cannot get the 190 proof stuff anymore. Most went to the 151 and you cannot dilute it that much and be effective.

the govt mandates the denaturing of ethanol, else they gotta get their tax. The govt loves killing poeple

Posted: 3/19/2020 2:54:40 PM EDT

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An alternative to alcohols which are unobtainable, you might find Odoban odor eliminator concentrate has Alkyl dimethyl benzyl ammonium chloride 2%.

Dilute to 0.13% for concentration equivalent to Purell hand wipes I see at Home Depot.

Dilute to 0.26% for concentration equivalent to Lysol wipes(for surfaces) we use at home.

It was $9/gallon at Home Depot.

Zep has similar but not identical odor control concentrated disinfectant, best used as surface disinfectant for about the same money at Lowe’s. Still available at my Lowe’s.

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