Baofeng UV-5R information (Page 6 of 16)
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Originally Posted By JC10311:
ETA: You can buy the GMRS radios at WalMart, but you DO need a license (about $89 for the whole family -- no tests) to transmit. FRS is completely unlicensed as long as the radio is certified. Ohhhh ok... I was confusing FRS and GMRS. Can these get FRS? Do I need a different license for GMRS?...time for me to google GMRS!! 
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Originally Posted By Emt1581:
Hmm...not certified? I always thought that if a device had a capability...and it was legal for me to do that action with one device...why not any other? Can the FCC/other hams even tell what the device is? Does it interfere with something? Personally I don't even know how to access GMRS but I was thinking that for certain activities I'd like to be able to use GMRS on them. My wife is just not tech. savvy and I don't see her passing a Tech exam. I'm anxious to hear more about this and whatever "parts". Thanks -Emt1581 Originally Posted By Emt1581:
Originally Posted By JC10311:
The UV-5Rs are not type certified for MURS, FRS or GMRS, and that's what makes it illegal. I'm with you on emergency use. If it's life or death, or even great bodily injury, then I'll use whatever I can and damn the consequences. I'm looking for the specific part certification that's needed, but I can't find it right now. Hmm...not certified? I always thought that if a device had a capability...and it was legal for me to do that action with one device...why not any other? Can the FCC/other hams even tell what the device is? Does it interfere with something? Personally I don't even know how to access GMRS but I was thinking that for certain activities I'd like to be able to use GMRS on them. My wife is just not tech. savvy and I don't see her passing a Tech exam. I'm anxious to hear more about this and whatever "parts". Thanks -Emt1581 No, there's no way for the receiving station to know if the transmitting station is certified unless it generates interference or the person admits to it. The other time you might get busted is if you're obviously using an uncertified radio AND other hams nearby recognize it. They would probably harass the crap out of you, but not turn you in unless you're being an a-hole. Here's a link to the FCC page on GMRS: FCC GMRS Part 95 certification The Baofeng is certified under Part 90 only. It's on the label under the battery. |
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Originally Posted By Emt1581:
Ohhhh ok... I was confusing FRS and GMRS. Can these get FRS? Do I need a different license for GMRS?...time for me to google GMRS!!
Thanks -Emt1581 Originally Posted By Emt1581:
Originally Posted By JC10311:
ETA: You can buy the GMRS radios at WalMart, but you DO need a license (about $89 for the whole family -- no tests) to transmit. FRS is completely unlicensed as long as the radio is certified. Ohhhh ok... I was confusing FRS and GMRS. Can these get FRS? Do I need a different license for GMRS?...time for me to google GMRS!!
Thanks -Emt1581 There's the same issue with FRS as GMRS as far as certification goes. FRS radios also need to be part 95 certified. The other problem with using the Baofengs for FRS is that they have a detachable antenna, which is a no-no for FRS. The Baofengs will also transmit at powers far in excess of the .5 watts allowed for FRS. Even set to low power, the Baofengs are still a one watt radio. But . . . yes, they will do it. ETA: Here's another link Part 95 certification |
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I have been wanting to get one of the Baofeng's for a while and after reading through this thread, I can't decide which one would be the best route to go? I am looking at the UV-5R, UV-5R+ or the UV-B5? Now I don't have any accessories yet, so I don't have to worry about model compatibility yet. I plan on buying a programing cable, extended battery, mic, better antenna and maybe a AA battery pack.
So what are the differences, if any, between these three models? And maybe your thoughts, opinions or preferences on them? I appreciate your answers! |
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Originally Posted By Diomed84:
I have been wanting to get one of the Baofeng's for a while and after reading through this thread, I can't decide which one would be the best route to go? I am looking at the UV-5R, UV-5R+ or the UV-B5? Now I don't have any accessories yet, so I don't have to worry about model compatibility yet. I plan on buying a programing cable, extended battery, mic, better antenna and maybe a AA battery pack. So what are the differences, if any, between these three models? And maybe your thoughts, opinions or preferences on them? I appreciate your answers! As a long time user.... The UV-5R, -5R+, -5RA, etc, are all IDENTICAL under the shell. NO difference. BUT the regular -5R will take more accessories. The other variants have slightly different shaped cases and the larger 3600 or 3800 mah battery will not fit well without some Dremel work. But as far as performance, none. The UV-B5 is not the same radio... and it has the fewest accessories available for it. It is similar to the UV-5R, but not the same. It is said to have a better receiver, that is, not getting interference from adjacent channels but in real world operation we have not found the UV-5R to be a problem in this regard. So, my recommendation is the regular UV-5R. I will also recommend the larger batteries. These radios are small. Your ring and pinky fingers hang off the bottom. If you try to work the keypad with your thumb you will drop the radio. But with the larger battery it is better balanced, and you just have a better grip. One-handed operation is easy. I don't even own any standard 1800 mah batteries anymore. I trade them off. There is one variant that is somewhat different. Radiomart sells a special model available only through him that is 2m and 220 mhz. No 440. The filters on the radio are set up for 220 as is the antenna, 2m/220. Some will tell you that you can use software and enter the 220 frequencies in the regular 2m/440 model. That is true. The radio will even try to transmit on 220, but not get anything out. The filtering prevents that, as does the antenna. Like teaching a pig to sing, it is a waste of time and annoys the pig. In this thread, if you will read from the beginning, it will tell you everything you need to know, all the accessories, about optional antennas, all of that. Back to batteries. This radio is stingy on power consumption... amazingly so. When the speaker is not chattering there is almost no current draw. With moderate amount of use the UV-5R, with 3600 mah battery, will go 4-5 days. You can order this radio with the large battery only, not paying for an extra battery. http://www.ebay.com/itm/221065959973 This is a good, reliable seller, though overseas. I have bought more than a dozen radios from this seller for myself and fellow hams. The Nagoya NA-701 is an excellent antenna, and there is cheap one, less than $5 almost as good. http://www.ebay.com/itm/370482649911 Same seller as the radio above. Will come in the same box if you order at the same time. http://www.ebay.com/itm/181026286509 Cheap but good antenna. http://www.ebay.com/itm/170738199845 Same cheap but good antenna. DO NOT fret about "getting the latest firmware". It makes absolutely NO difference in operation. You can't change it, either. A non-issue. AA batteries... not worth the effort. But if you do... The radio is made for the 7.4 volt Lithium that comes in it. It will shut down if excess voltage. The AA case has room for 6 AA's. If you put in 6 alkaline AA's that is 6 x 1.5 volts = 9 volts. The radio will shut down. If you put in 6 Nicads, that is 6 x 1.25 = 7.5 volts and it will work ok. If you insist on alkalines you need to get a "dummy cell" and put inline, so that you only have 5 batteries. 5 x 1.5 = 7.5 volts will work. Other acc, if it works with a Kenwood with the 2-pin mic, it will work with the UV-5R. Go back to the beginning of this thread about programming cables. Read and believe. DO NOT USE Baofeng software. Toss any discs. Use CHIRP. Far more stable, just better software. RT is no better. And CHIRP will program a lot of radios, somewhere around 60. I bought a cable with USB on one end, and the other end interchanges with half a dozen plugs. I can program about 90% of the HTs made with that. So, read this thread from the beginning. It's got links, pictures, and arrows and everything.
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Originally Posted By Diomed84:
Awesome reply!! Thanks for the info, looks like I will be shelling out some cash soon. I already have an HT, but I plan on this as a spare for the truck, heck might as well get two! I have not received my B5 yet but my 5R is pretty nice. However, above all, get a better antenna!!!! I can only hit a repeater 4-5miles away with the stock rubber duck. It sucks! I'll be ordering one of the n9tax j-pole antennas for 70cm/2m in the near future. -Emt1581 |
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Thanks for the leg work Jupiter7200. My new VU-5R+ is all programmed up. I used my Wouxun programming cable with the CHIRP software.
I tried using a Diamond SJR77CA antenna on my radio but it dosen't work unless I'm within one foot of the radio to receive any signal. The antenna functions just fine on my Wouxun UV3D. The stock radio antenna seems to work just fine in my area. I have not problems with Squelch is set at 2. I'd like to pick up a Nagoya NA-701 and give it a try next. |
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Originally Posted By Tangotag:
Thanks for the leg work Jupiter7200. My new VU-5R+ is all programmed up. I used my Wouxun programming cable with the CHIRP software. I tried using a Diamond SJR77CA antenna on my radio but it dosen't work unless I'm within one foot of the radio to receive any signal. The antenna functions just fine on my Wouxun UV3D. The stock radio antenna seems to work just fine in my area. I have not problems with Squelch is set at 2. I'd like to pick up a Nagoya NA-701 and give it a try next. The UV-5R is easily swamped by too strong signal. Two UV-5Rs within 10 ft or so will both seem to not work. Try transmitting to a repeater with your other radio, and listening with whatever antenna with the UV-5R. The NA-701 seems to be a good compromise of size vs. range. The NA-771 has a little more range, but at 16" ceases to be "handy". |
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Originally Posted By medicmandan:
Anyone have a bad A/B button? Mine won't switch between the frequencies. The down arrow shows for a second but never switches over. If there is traffic on the VFO it is set at, I sometimes have to hit the button twice to switch. If there is no traffic, works just fine. |
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Originally Posted By glockster:
If there is traffic on the VFO it is set at, I sometimes have to hit the button twice to switch. If there is no traffic, works just fine. Originally Posted By glockster:
Originally Posted By medicmandan:
Anyone have a bad A/B button? Mine won't switch between the frequencies. The down arrow shows for a second but never switches over. If there is traffic on the VFO it is set at, I sometimes have to hit the button twice to switch. If there is no traffic, works just fine. Must have done something to it. I gave up on trying to figure it out and did a factory reset. Works now. |
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Originally Posted By medicmandan:
Must have done something to it. I gave up on trying to figure it out and did a factory reset. Works now. Originally Posted By medicmandan:
Originally Posted By glockster:
Originally Posted By medicmandan:
Anyone have a bad A/B button? Mine won't switch between the frequencies. The down arrow shows for a second but never switches over. If there is traffic on the VFO it is set at, I sometimes have to hit the button twice to switch. If there is no traffic, works just fine. Must have done something to it. I gave up on trying to figure it out and did a factory reset. Works now. Turn off Menu 7 TDR. That is Dual Watch. Do it like this: Press Menu. Press 7 Press Menu. Press 0 (zero) Press Menu to save. Press Exit Please review the third post on page 1 of this thread. |
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Anyone have a suggestion on a good female SMA to BNC adapter? I got one off eBay, but I don't like the way it sits on the radio. The regular SMA to BNC I got was great for my other radios, snugs up against the body of both my scanner and Yaesu HT, and is shorter than the one that came with the Uniden scanner - but the one for the UV5R sticks up quite a ways. Just looking for a low profile and something that fits down against the body of the radio to minimize any flexing on the connector. This was the one I got off eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/170786804440. Maybe this one will work better? Hard to tell from the photos. http://www.ebay.com/itm/151211355542. Oh, and if you're curious about a regular SMA to BNC adapter, this is the one I picked up http://www.ebay.com/itm/181172744594. |
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tactical tailor & maxpedition both work well...have a few pics in "the HT thread" sry- mobile so i can't link Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Originally Posted By SCWolverine:
tactical tailor & maxpedition both work well...have a few pics in "the HT thread" sry- mobile so i can't link Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile The Tactical Tailor one fits it well. |
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| I got a radio (UV-5R) from my wife for my birthday. I'm reading up to get my ticket and hope to take the test the next time it is offered. I have found out there is a repeater tower less than 10 miles from my house. Will it be possible to reach it with my radio? |
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Originally Posted By Hunter660:
I got a radio (UV-5R) from my wife for my birthday. I'm reading up to get my ticket and hope to take the test the next time it is offered. I have found out there is a repeater tower less than 10 miles from my house. Will it be possible to reach it with my radio? As with everything VHF/UHF, the answer is, maybe. To expand upon that, if you're talking about level ground with no mountains/hills/etc in the way, probably. However, if you're in a valley and the repeater is in another valley and there's a big hill between you, probably not. YMMV This is part of why we do this, to find out if it works 
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pick up a better antenna for it and you should be good.
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I bought a second UV-5+ and a Nagoya NA-701 and NA-771. The newest radio seems to have a functional squelch level as opposed to the month older one that either works on or off. Neither "higher gain antenna" seems to matter at all for increasing reception on either radio. Not one more dollar will go to these radios, I've learned my lesson. Having two of the same models really shows the glitches of one over the other in side by side testing.
For $40 they are not a bad radio, but more money really gets you something much better. For all I have invested in Baofengs and accessories I still couldn't have bought a FT-60 even when on sale. It's all still a great learning experience. Simplex on the ground is challenging to try to squeeze out a little more distance. But with side by side testing even a Wouxun is worth $50 more for the additional range. Earlier this week I had, and again next week I will have again access to a RigExpert AA-170 for graphing the 2 Meter side of the antennas. The Baofeng stock antennas do have different SWR graph prints from generation to generation. We saw that the older UV-5 had a slightly higher SWR than the UV-5+ antenna on 2 Meter. Next week we will graph the Nagoya and Diamond Female SMA antennas SWR too. More simplex testing tonight, I wanted to test out the Nagoya NA-771 hi-gain but it provided no better reception off either Baofeng UV-5+ I have compared to their stock antenna. |
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I have not read every post on here, but I have not seem many negative reviews on these radios. Maybe people are just overlooking a lot of flaws do to the low cost? Either way, this $30 radio is what got me interested in HAM. I was about to order a second radio and antennas for both, but I guess I will hold off on the antenna since it is up in the air whether they are any better than stock.
Does anyone have the Maxpedition CP-M pouch? I think it will fit the radio without the extra battery, would just like to confirm before I order. http://www.maxpedition.com/pc/CP-M-8p2.htm |
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Originally Posted By Hunter660:
I was about to order a second radio and antennas for both, but I guess I will hold off on the antenna since it is up in the air whether they are any better than stock. Not up in the air to me at all. I drove up and down the highway at various distances from a nearby repeater, talking to the owner, would stop every so often and swap around between the stock antenna, the J0125A (Puxing? the famous $3.79 antenna, about 8" long), Nagoya NA-701 (about 8" long), and Nagoya NA-771 (about 16" long). I got about 2 miles more range with the J0125A, another mile or two with the 701, and yet another mile or two with the 771. All three of the aftermarket antenna were better than the original stock antenna. I have heard they have since improved the stock antenna, but that the 701 is still better. For me, the 16" long 771, while the best range, is awkward. If I were out camping or something, I might use it. But for the things I use an HT for, it is just too long. And it is a tossup which is "better value", the inexpensive J0125A, or the NA-701. I suggest buying Nagoyas from Radioshop888 on Ebay, as they seem to be genuine Nagoya and perform well. Others have gotten fakes from other sellers that did not perform. See my post above, dated 1/2/2014 1:11:47 AM CST for links. |
| Well, I joined the cult (of the UV-5R, not ham, that happened years ago). The programing cable and CHIRP is a major time saver. |
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Originally Posted By para_frame:
Well, I joined the cult (of the UV-5R, not ham, that happened years ago). The programing cable and CHIRP is a major time saver. Which programing cable did you pick up? |
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Be weary of the USB programming cables. A lot of them (cheap ones from china) use fake Prolific PL-2303 chips, which are marginal in performance, and drivers. I prefer to stick with serial programming cables, and use my own, trusted, serial-usb cables. Has anyone else tried to do the audio mod on the UV-5R? I did the one that removed some caps and resistors and shorted the pads to reconnect the audio path. Didn't really notice much difference in audio clarity, tho. I think the muffled/low TX audio and poor selectivity are my two biggest gripes with the radio. But, for a "not worried about it getting trashed" radio, it work ok. |
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| I'm trying to program a couple repeaters into my radio using CHIRP. When I put in the offset direction and upload to the radio, the display shows +-. I would have thought it would show a + OR -, not both. I do have some frequencies that the duplex is set to off and they also show +- as expected. |
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The UV-5r series shows the + and - more as an indicator that an offset is there, not necessarily the direction. Similar to the signal meter shows signal, but not how much signal. If it says you have an offset and you don't want one, check your settings again in Chirp.
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Originally Posted By glockster:
The UV-5r series shows the + and - more as an indicator that an offset is there, not necessarily thr direction. Similar to the signal meter shows signal, not how much signal. If it says you ahve an offset you don't want one, check your settings again in chirp Thanks |
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Here is the Baofeng UV-5R in a Maxpedition CP-M
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Originally Posted By glockster:
Does the medium size pouch expand out far enough to allow a speaker-mic plug to fit? It looks like it should, but looks can be deceiving. The dimensions for the radio I found online do not include the belt clip on the radio. Without the clip installed it works great. With the clip on the radio it is a little tighter than I like. I'm not sure I'm happy with it. The large size pouch looks too big. I have seen references to a Tactical Tailor pouch, but have not seen a picture of the radio in one. |
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Originally Posted By Hunter660:
The dimensions for the radio I found online do not include the belt clip on the radio. Without the clip installed it works great. With the clip on the radio it is a little tighter than I like. I'm not sure I'm happy with it. The large size pouch looks too big. I have seen references to a Tactical Tailor pouch, but have not seen a picture of the radio in one. Originally Posted By Hunter660:
Originally Posted By glockster:
Does the medium size pouch expand out far enough to allow a speaker-mic plug to fit? It looks like it should, but looks can be deceiving. The dimensions for the radio I found online do not include the belt clip on the radio. Without the clip installed it works great. With the clip on the radio it is a little tighter than I like. I'm not sure I'm happy with it. The large size pouch looks too big. I have seen references to a Tactical Tailor pouch, but have not seen a picture of the radio in one. I've got mine in a TT pouch (sans belt clip). I'll try to get a photo up tonight. |
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Originally Posted By Hunter660:
The dimensions for the radio I found online do not include the belt clip on the radio. Without the clip installed it works great. With the clip on the radio it is a little tighter than I like. I'm not sure I'm happy with it. The large size pouch looks too big. I have seen references to a Tactical Tailor pouch, but have not seen a picture of the radio in one. Originally Posted By Hunter660:
Originally Posted By glockster:
Does the medium size pouch expand out far enough to allow a speaker-mic plug to fit? It looks like it should, but looks can be deceiving. The dimensions for the radio I found online do not include the belt clip on the radio. Without the clip installed it works great. With the clip on the radio it is a little tighter than I like. I'm not sure I'm happy with it. The large size pouch looks too big. I have seen references to a Tactical Tailor pouch, but have not seen a picture of the radio in one. Maxpedition Large with UV-5R+ and clip installed 
Same radio with clip and 3800mAh batt installed 
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Originally Posted By Hunter660:
The dimensions for the radio I found online do not include the belt clip on the radio. Without the clip installed it works great. With the clip on the radio it is a little tighter than I like. I'm not sure I'm happy with it. The large size pouch looks too big. I have seen references to a Tactical Tailor pouch, but have not seen a picture of the radio in one. I'm not too worried about the belt clip fitting with it. I figure that is why I would use a pouch instead. More interested with the added width of the plug on the side. The belt clip doesn't really add a whole lot to it anyway. |
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Originally Posted By glockster:
The UV-5r series shows the + and - more as an indicator that an offset is there, not necessarily the direction. Similar to the signal meter shows signal, but not how much signal. If it says you have an offset and you don't want one, check your settings again in Chirp. Edit: Cleaned it up. Damn on-screen phone keyboards No, the +/- just shows that there is an offset, doesn't show direction. |
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Originally Posted By Bruins:
Nice! I like how the PTT and the jack are easily accessible. Have you field tested this pouch at all? Originally Posted By Bruins:
Originally Posted By medicmandan:
With standard battery: With extended battery: Nice! I like how the PTT and the jack are easily accessible. Have you field tested this pouch at all? I haven't. Just got it from TT in the last couple of weeks. |
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Originally Posted By medicmandan:
I haven't. Just got it from TT in the last couple of weeks. Originally Posted By medicmandan:
Originally Posted By Bruins:
Originally Posted By medicmandan:
With standard battery: With extended battery: Nice! I like how the PTT and the jack are easily accessible. Have you field tested this pouch at all? I haven't. Just got it from TT in the last couple of weeks. I found it on Amazon for a few dollars cheaper (plus free shipping) than the TT website. I may give this a try. I haven't quite decided how I want to mount my UV-5R yet. I keep going back and forth between a belt, throwing all my radio stuff in a bag, or mounting it on the outside of a bag. Have you played around at all with placement? |
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Originally Posted By Bruins:
I found it on Amazon for a few dollars cheaper (plus free shipping) than the TT website. I may give this a try. I haven't quite decided how I want to mount my UV-5R yet. I keep going back and forth between a belt, throwing all my radio stuff in a bag, or mounting it on the outside of a bag. Have you played around at all with placement? Originally Posted By Bruins:
Originally Posted By medicmandan:
Originally Posted By Bruins:
Originally Posted By medicmandan:
With standard battery: With extended battery: Nice! I like how the PTT and the jack are easily accessible. Have you field tested this pouch at all? I haven't. Just got it from TT in the last couple of weeks. I found it on Amazon for a few dollars cheaper (plus free shipping) than the TT website. I may give this a try. I haven't quite decided how I want to mount my UV-5R yet. I keep going back and forth between a belt, throwing all my radio stuff in a bag, or mounting it on the outside of a bag. Have you played around at all with placement? I bought two of the pouches, one in OD the other in multicam. They will switch between my vests, PIG and packs. |
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Originally Posted By medicmandan:
I bought two of the pouches, one in OD the other in multicam. They will switch between my vests, PIG and packs. Originally Posted By medicmandan:
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Originally Posted By Bruins:
Originally Posted By medicmandan:
With standard battery: With extended battery: Nice! I like how the PTT and the jack are easily accessible. Have you field tested this pouch at all? I haven't. Just got it from TT in the last couple of weeks. I found it on Amazon for a few dollars cheaper (plus free shipping) than the TT website. I may give this a try. I haven't quite decided how I want to mount my UV-5R yet. I keep going back and forth between a belt, throwing all my radio stuff in a bag, or mounting it on the outside of a bag. Have you played around at all with placement? I bought two of the pouches, one in OD the other in multicam. They will switch between my vests, PIG and packs. I've been going back and forth about the different pouches that other members have posted but I think I like this one the most simply because of the access to the PTT and jacks... also it'll accommodate both size batteries which may be important... Have you had any experience with battery life at all? Like I previously posted, I've accidentally left it on all day and it was still going strong. Obviously the battery indicator isn't functional, but have you had one die on you after X amount of hours? |
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