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Posted: 2/20/2019 3:57:25 PM EDT
Have any of you had any luck getting hunting permission by sending letters based on property tax searches? I've never tried it, but I've got 13 letters ready to go so far. I'm planning on starting to send a few per week. I'll be happy if 1 in 20 pays off.
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You'll be lucky if 1 in 100 pays off.
Get out there and start knocking on doors. Saturday afternoon, nicely dressed. |
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I've never sent a letter. I always stop by and ask.
only been told no once, and that was some out of state asshole that moved up here and didn't want anyone hunting near his property. (we often cut across the corner of the property before he bought it, walking to a large parcel behind him) He was not a hunter and didn't like those that were, plus his wife hated guns. To be honest, I'm not sure I would give permission to someone I never met or talked to in person. |
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I'm mainly doing this just to see if it works. Several podcasts I listen to have recommended it. If it doesn't pay off, then I'm out the cost of some stamps. I've got my own place and a lease that I hunt already.
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A friend of mine hunts Fairfield county CT. He goes to wealthy estates often and knocks on doors until he gets permission. One day he knocked on Martha Stewart's door ( Unknowingly, Before she was Ultra-rich) She rolled her eyes at him and told him to "please go away". Lol.
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I would let a guy that stopped and asked long before I would consider doing anything short of mumbling insults under my breath about anyone that sent a letter. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Please let us know how it goes! If nothing else it'll be an interesting sample.
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As a landowner, I definitely recommend stopping by and asking in person. I'm more than happy to give permission, and show you tree lines and water sources on my land. Of course, a little sausage or a backstrap a month later never goes amiss.
But I'm unlikely to respond to a letter. I get too much junk mail. |
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As a landowner, I definitely recommend stopping by and asking in person. I'm more than happy to give permission, and show you tree lines and water sources on my land. Of course, a little sausage or a backstrap a month later never goes amiss. But I'm unlikely to respond to a letter. I get too much junk mail. View Quote Sooo... is that an open invite? |
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I agree. The chances of me allowing someone I don’t know access to my place based on a letter are slim to none. It was mentioned on a couple podcasts, so I figured I’d try. Sooo... is that an open invite? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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As a landowner, I definitely recommend stopping by and asking in person. I'm more than happy to give permission, and show you tree lines and water sources on my land. Of course, a little sausage or a backstrap a month later never goes amiss. But I'm unlikely to respond to a letter. I get too much junk mail. Sooo... is that an open invite? |
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I’m focusing my efforts on people that live at least 40 miles from the properties I’m asking about. Most of them are an hour or more. Some are on the other side of the country. If this doesn’t work, then I’ll knock on doors. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Have any of you had any luck getting hunting permission by sending letters based on property tax searches? I've never tried it, but I've got 13 letters ready to go so far. I'm planning on starting to send a few per week. I'll be happy if 1 in 20 pays off. View Quote |
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You’ll have better luck in person, and by offering help around the property so it’s give and take...not just take. I never had issues growing up. I’d offer to help milk cows, bale hay, whatever in the summer. A few days of work here and there yielded a couple thousand acres of hunting land to play on. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Have any of you had any luck getting hunting permission by sending letters based on property tax searches? I've never tried it, but I've got 13 letters ready to go so far. I'm planning on starting to send a few per week. I'll be happy if 1 in 20 pays off. |
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I have found that there are certain animals you can ask permission to hunt at certain times of the year.
Rabbits, squirrels, turkeys, coyotes and coon are the only animals I will ask permission to hunt. Deer, pheasants, fox and other pretty creatures are off the list. I rarely get turned away. But we are nicer here in Wisconsin and the laws are written to protect the landowner who gives permission to hunt. |
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In some states, landowners are protected from liability if they give hunting permission without money changing hands.
I've gotten permission to pheasant hunt one property by knocking on the door. My dad got me on to my mom's step-cousin's property for deer and I secured my place there by building box blinds, loading hay trailers and splitting firewood. I also gut and/or process a handful of deer for my cousin. Honestly it's much better work than conference calls and emails and always having a beer in hand makes it more fun. I also always show up with a lot of booze and food for everyone. I'm not a smooth talker, so fat chance of me talking my way on to a property. Good luck with your endeavors. |
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In some states, landowners are protected from liability if they give hunting permission without money changing hands. I've gotten permission to pheasant hunt one property by knocking on the door. My dad got me on to my mom's step-cousin's property for deer and I secured my place there by building box blinds, loading hay trailers and splitting firewood. I also gut and/or process a handful of deer for my cousin. Honestly it's much better work than conference calls and emails and always having a beer in hand makes it more fun. I also always show up with a lot of booze and food for everyone. I'm not a smooth talker, so fat chance of me talking my way on to a property. Good luck with your endeavors. View Quote I’m going to be knocking on a door tomorrow. I was planning on just writing letters for now, but this place looks awesome and the owner lives right down the road from my son’s school. |
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For those interested, I've sent 8 letters. I had to get more stamps to send the rest. They'll be going out Monday. The first call came today. The landowner said that the property is already locked into a lease, but that may change next year. She said to call her back early next year and there was a possibility that we could work something out. It's not the response I was hoping for, but I'll take it.
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When you get a yes to hunt deer, better run down and buy a lotto ticket.
I have great success asking to hunt coyote... I'm on a roll having got just ONE no in the last year. Word in my area is out that I hunt coyote and get results... now, I'm getting the calls vs. me making the call. Just secured another piece of virgin land yesterday. |
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Another route to try would be to offer a limited form of property management in exchange for hunting rights.
For example: You offer to keep roads trimmed and clear, survey firebreaks and property lines/fences, inspect for diseased timber, maybe mow an area for the land owner. It shows that you’ll put in a little bit of effort to make sure their property is maintained. |
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Another route to try would be to offer a limited form of property management in exchange for hunting rights. For example: You offer to keep roads trimmed and clear, survey firebreaks and property lines/fences, inspect for diseased timber, maybe mow an area for the land owner. It shows that you’ll put in a little bit of effort to make sure their property is maintained. View Quote |
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Quoted: I put in the letter that I would keep an eye on their property, clean up trash, keep roads/paths clear, etc. View Quote There is a need for landowners who are absentee from their properties to prevent squatters, vandalism, trespassers, poachers etc. You just need to find those people that need and/or want your services. As far as asking for permission to hunt, I would start with the simple stuff first: coyotes, rabbits, etc. NOT deer and turkey. Especially so if a landowner has a prticular problem with a specific animal e.g. coyote problem. Get your foot in the door and let the relationship go from there. I have a neighbor who is an avid deer and turkey hunter (+25 deer heads in his house, goes to IL and KS every year etc.). He has good luck getting permission to hunt. Well dressed, well spoken, starts just after the season; trades contracting work for access. And speaking of the last: Are you in a trade? Is there something you can do to trade for access? Might be worth looking into. Good luck! |
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Ask in person.
Start small, sincerely offer to help, and be appreciative. Most non-land owners are clueless regarding land rights and cost of ownership. Golf in summer and show up in November to take what they want. |
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I think your plan has merit - person to person for close landowners; letters for absentee owners. There is a need for landowners who are absentee from their properties to prevent squatters, vandalism, trespassers, poachers etc. You just need to find those people that need and/or want your services. As far as asking for permission to hunt, I would start with the simple stuff first: coyotes, rabbits, etc. NOT deer and turkey. Especially so if a landowner has a prticular problem with a specific animal e.g. coyote problem. Get your foot in the door and let the relationship go from there. I have a neighbor who is an avid deer and turkey hunter (+25 deer heads in his house, goes to IL and KS every year etc.). He has good luck getting permission to hunt. Well dressed, well spoken, starts just after the season; trades contracting work for access. And speaking of the last: Are you in a trade? Is there something you can do to trade for access? Might be worth looking into. Good luck! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: I put in the letter that I would keep an eye on their property, clean up trash, keep roads/paths clear, etc. There is a need for landowners who are absentee from their properties to prevent squatters, vandalism, trespassers, poachers etc. You just need to find those people that need and/or want your services. As far as asking for permission to hunt, I would start with the simple stuff first: coyotes, rabbits, etc. NOT deer and turkey. Especially so if a landowner has a prticular problem with a specific animal e.g. coyote problem. Get your foot in the door and let the relationship go from there. I have a neighbor who is an avid deer and turkey hunter (+25 deer heads in his house, goes to IL and KS every year etc.). He has good luck getting permission to hunt. Well dressed, well spoken, starts just after the season; trades contracting work for access. And speaking of the last: Are you in a trade? Is there something you can do to trade for access? Might be worth looking into. Good luck! |
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Ask in person. Start small, sincerely offer to help, and be appreciative. Most non-land owners are clueless regarding land rights and cost of ownership. Golf in summer and show up in November to take what they want. View Quote I made sure to mention in my letter that a lot of my hunting has been on family land and on my own land, so I understand landowner concerns. I also mentioned the kind of work I'd do and said that we could discuss any other work that needed to be done. |
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Another landowner called today and I got a solid maybe. He said he would call me back. That's 2 responses out of 8 letters. They aren't definite yes's, but it's not no's either. I've got 12 more to send as soon as I get around to addressing them.
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I'm an IT guy, so not much in the trades experience. We're so rural that a lot of the homes near me don't have any wired internet options. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Quoted: I put in the letter that I would keep an eye on their property, clean up trash, keep roads/paths clear, etc. There is a need for landowners who are absentee from their properties to prevent squatters, vandalism, trespassers, poachers etc. You just need to find those people that need and/or want your services. As far as asking for permission to hunt, I would start with the simple stuff first: coyotes, rabbits, etc. NOT deer and turkey. Especially so if a landowner has a prticular problem with a specific animal e.g. coyote problem. Get your foot in the door and let the relationship go from there. I have a neighbor who is an avid deer and turkey hunter (+25 deer heads in his house, goes to IL and KS every year etc.). He has good luck getting permission to hunt. Well dressed, well spoken, starts just after the season; trades contracting work for access. And speaking of the last: Are you in a trade? Is there something you can do to trade for access? Might be worth looking into. Good luck! I live rural and I had trouble getting internet out to my shop. Fortunately, a thread here on Arfcom got me a solution. Good luck! |
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So far I’ve had 2 maybes, 1 probably, and 1 definitely replies. The definite response was for hogs, but he said he’ll let me deer hunt if the hog hunting goes well. The woman that said she’ll probably let me hunt is checking with her cousin, but said she thinks he only hunts turkeys.
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You can do what my neighbor did and just show up and force his help upon me whenever he saw me outside working on something, be it firewood, hay, or whatever. When he asked to hunt how could I say no? We still need to get out and build him a blind this year.
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I personally do not do it, but my buddies hunt state lands. I know you have to get ahead of the crowd and put in for everything. One of them will get X tract of land bow season and gets a buddy pass. Then the other guy pays back his buddy pass on a different tract in general gun. They actually do well, and have got deer for the last 10 years doing this.
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Depends on the state. I'm in Ohio a good chunk of the year...not going to happen. The rest of the year when I in WI/MN...Western WI, western MN, ND, and SD, I have good luck for pheasant. I don't bother asking for deer.
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I think statistically you did well getting responses. It’s been twenty five years or so since I went knocking on doors wearing a button up shirt asking for permission to small game hunt.
I got a lot of “no”s. 15:1. That was for woodchucks, squirrels and rabbits on old farmsteads. I learned quickly to not ask to hunt but ask to hunt small game. They all have family and cousins that come around in deer season. |
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I think statistically you did well getting responses. It’s been twenty five years or so since I went knocking on doors wearing a button up shirt asking for permission to small game hunt. I got a lot of “no”s. 15:1. That was for woodchucks, squirrels and rabbits on old farmsteads. I learned quickly to not ask to hunt but ask to hunt small game. They all have family and cousins that come around in deer season. View Quote |
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Some years back my old taxidermist and his son went down to Westchester, NY which is home to some very wealthy people with large estates, but it also has many properties in the 2-10 acre range, which is perfect for growing whitetails.
Well they picked one particular area and started at the bottom of hill and started knocking on doors. As they went along they were getting discouraged as every home owner was saying no, but they pressed on. Well they finally arrived at the last house at the top of the hill and low and behold the homeowner said yes. He came back for the Nov 1 opener and arrowed a 130" that just made the book in NYS. |
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Quoted: I’m really surprised at the number of responses. I expected 1 maybe at best and at least a couple calling to cuss me out for even asking. It has encouraged me to keep at it though. I’ve got another list of locals and am planning on knocking on doors soon. View Quote |
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it really depends on what your hunting and how. Every single farmer I asked while in College practically begged me to kill every worthless piece of shit woodchuck that was on their land. Most said anytime you want others requested a call saying you would be out there shooting. Im not talking booming 500 rounds just 3-4 at woodchucks. These conversations in turn allowed me to bowhunt on some of the land but there are far too many gun hunters around there to even think they would give permission.
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