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3/21/2020 9:24:37 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By LT_Beaker:
Wanna try 3961?
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Originally Posted By LT_Beaker:
Originally Posted By planemaker:
Somebody must have heard me because I heard my callsign being read back to me. Yay!
Wanna try 3961?


Not sure how good my antenna will be there but sure. Give me a sec to switch over.
"We the People ultimately control our government, not the other way around." - planemaker
3/21/2020 9:25:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Derek45:


I think Gyprat got W.A.S. ( worked all states ) in 75 mins

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hah no shit
"There's a historic battle going on across the West, in Europe, America and elsewhere. It is globalism against populism. And you may loathe populism, but I'll tell you a funny thing--its becoming very popular!"
3/21/2020 9:27:13 PM EDT
[#3]
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Originally Posted By LT_Beaker:
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Originally Posted By LT_Beaker:
Originally Posted By planemaker:
Somebody must have heard me because I heard my callsign being read back to me. Yay!
Wanna try 3961?

Someone on 3960 here.
If its broke. I can fix it. If it doesn't exist. I can make it. If its metal.
3/21/2020 9:27:59 PM EDT
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Don't forget JS8CALL

For now or later....
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3/21/2020 9:28:24 PM EDT
[#5]
Threw out a CQ Arfcom on 3.961 but didn't hear any replies. Tuner is having a hard time tuning 80m which isn't a big surprise given I have an EFHW that's really too short for 80m.
"We the People ultimately control our government, not the other way around." - planemaker
3/21/2020 9:29:36 PM EDT
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Cq now 3961
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3/21/2020 9:30:05 PM EDT
[#7]
We had a total of 7 check ins on 20 meters.
A total of 79 check-ins on 40 meters. I was hoping to get at least 87 check-ins. Maybe next time. LOL.

I was bare-foot on 20 but was using the amp on 40 meters.

Sorry but I never had a chance to come back to any of you guys.

So, what have we learnt? Any observations, suggestions, constructive criticism? It would be nice to have a back-up NC, so we can take turns when a pile up happens.
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3/21/2020 9:30:27 PM EDT
[#8]

3.961 is no-go for me

My 80m is tuned for the CW DX window.

My ZS6BKW got knocked down a few years ago, I  should put it back up.
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3/21/2020 9:31:01 PM EDT
[#9]
I heard CQ Arfcom on 3961 but someone is on 3960 here and is very long winded. He hasn't taken a breath in over 3 minutes.
If its broke. I can fix it. If it doesn't exist. I can make it. If its metal.
3/21/2020 9:32:25 PM EDT
[#10]
I've been jammed up with things lately but see some time off come early April unless something happens.

When I do get some time off I am planning on leaving the rig on all day and making Arfcom QSOs....meaning I want your screen name.*

SCW Thanks for the link. I got to hear at least a small part of it.

There are a handful of unlicensed Baefong guys and naysayers in GD and if we can get a shitload of screen name QSOs it will turn a few heads...and maybe smarten a few people up.

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3/21/2020 9:34:20 PM EDT
[#11]
I'm qrt for the night. Got on right at 2100 and couldn't get a hold of anyone on 213. Went up to arf alt on 40 and picked up cjk which was cool!

then I spilled my beer which was decidedly uncool

tried 80 but nogo. I'll be around some more but we should try to get this daily for a while.
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3/21/2020 9:37:49 PM EDT
[#12]
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Originally Posted By Derek45:


3.961 is no-go for me

My 80m is tuned for the CW DX window.

My ZS6BKW got knocked down a few years ago, I  should put it back up.
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Those are much, much better than a G5RV (which was designed as a 20m only antenna).


Guys, I have to be at another local 10m net, at 10 pm ET (25 min from now). There isn't enough time to go to 80 meters.

Thank you all for participating. Let's do this more often. Maybe 2-3 times per week and allow everyone to share their situation report.
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3/21/2020 9:49:54 PM EDT
[#13]
Thanks for doing this.
"There's a historic battle going on across the West, in Europe, America and elsewhere. It is globalism against populism. And you may loathe populism, but I'll tell you a funny thing--its becoming very popular!"
3/21/2020 9:52:52 PM EDT
[#14]
The pileup sounded like a mob going after an obscure DX station!  Was fun "watching" and hearing all the different QTHs...

Justin B.
KI5GKD
3/21/2020 9:55:42 PM EDT
[#15]
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Originally Posted By justinbowser:
The pileup sounded like a mob going after an obscure DX station!  Was fun "watching" and hearing all the different QTHs...

Justin B.
KI5GKD
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I heard you I think. I think you mentioned hanging out in the retro forum.
"There's a historic battle going on across the West, in Europe, America and elsewhere. It is globalism against populism. And you may loathe populism, but I'll tell you a funny thing--its becoming very popular!"
3/21/2020 10:02:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SCWolverine:
where's @piccolo

Nebraska sound NICE
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That's was probably me.
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3/21/2020 10:15:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mancow:
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+1

that was fun

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3/21/2020 10:23:02 PM EDT
[#18]
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Originally Posted By Gyprat:
We had a total of 7 check ins on 20 meters.
A total of 79 check-ins on 40 meters. I was hoping to get at least 87 check-ins. Maybe next time. LOL.

I was bare-foot on 20 but was using the amp on 40 meters.

Sorry but I never had a chance to come back to any of you guys.

So, what have we learnt? Any observations, suggestions, constructive criticism? It would be nice to have a back-up NC, so we can take turns when a pile up happens.
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You did awesome! I heard many of the other stations which pleased me greatly..

For backup a seasoned op with a nice antenna with QRO capability would be nice my nomination for backup goes to @aa777888-2 personally. Both you guys are seasoned confidant operators and have stations with solid recieve on even weak signals like mine. The amps make it a breeze to listen. Some of the check-ins are tough but with a strong net control it really is such a pleasure to participate.

Next time you should collect screen names I'm curious how many people were actually members and how many were trying to just get into the pileup.

Bravo sir!

There are hundreds of reasons to own a gun but it’s mostly the reasons I can't think of that make me glad to have them.
3/22/2020 8:53:44 AM EDT
[#19]
Yes thank you that was a lot of fun.

Cant wait for the next time.
3/22/2020 9:40:07 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By LTCetme:
You did awesome! I heard many of the other stations which pleased me greatly..

For backup a seasoned op with a nice antenna with QRO capability would be nice my nomination for backup goes to @aa777888-2 personally. Both you guys are seasoned confidant operators and have stations with solid recieve on even weak signals like mine. The amps make it a breeze to listen. Some of the check-ins are tough but with a strong net control it really is such a pleasure to participate.

Next time you should collect screen names I'm curious how many people were actually members and how many were trying to just get into the pileup.

Bravo sir!
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Originally Posted By LTCetme:
Originally Posted By Gyprat:
We had a total of 7 check ins on 20 meters.
A total of 79 check-ins on 40 meters. I was hoping to get at least 87 check-ins. Maybe next time. LOL.

I was bare-foot on 20 but was using the amp on 40 meters.

Sorry but I never had a chance to come back to any of you guys.

So, what have we learnt? Any observations, suggestions, constructive criticism? It would be nice to have a back-up NC, so we can take turns when a pile up happens.
You did awesome! I heard many of the other stations which pleased me greatly..

For backup a seasoned op with a nice antenna with QRO capability would be nice my nomination for backup goes to @aa777888-2 personally. Both you guys are seasoned confidant operators and have stations with solid recieve on even weak signals like mine. The amps make it a breeze to listen. Some of the check-ins are tough but with a strong net control it really is such a pleasure to participate.

Next time you should collect screen names I'm curious how many people were actually members and how many were trying to just get into the pileup.

Bravo sir!
It's easy to suspect that of the 79 check in's on 40M, less than half were arfhams. To keep this manageable, there really needs to be a way to accept only those with a screen name. Not everyone may be willing to put their screen name out on the air. I have a large database of callsigns vs. screen names. If net control had something like that they would know. And if someone wanted to try to participate in the net, they could PM net control with their call beforehand so that it could be added to the database.

The other issue may have been that it was a contest Saturday night. The band is crowded twice over and people just make contacts for the hell of it. Plus Gyprat sounds nice so people want to talk to him

So I'd recommend the database approach, and maybe moving it to a week night when the bands are not so crowded. That might even be better, since Saturday evening will go back to a normal evening for going out once this pandemicomonium goes away.

As for me personally, I can't make a 1900 Eastern net with my schedule. I can barely make a 2000 net (which was why I checked in late).

3/22/2020 10:01:58 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By aa777888-2:
It's easy to suspect that of the 79 check in's on 40M, less than half were arfhams. To keep this manageable, there really needs to be a way to accept only those with a screen name. Not everyone may be willing to put their screen name out on the air. I have a large database of callsigns vs. screen names. If net control had something like that they would know. And if someone wanted to try to participate in the net, they could PM net control with their call beforehand so that it could be added to the database.

The other issue may have been that it was a contest Saturday night. The band is crowded twice over and people just make contacts for the hell of it. Plus Gyprat sounds nice so people want to talk to him

So I'd recommend the database approach, and maybe moving it to a week night when the bands are not so crowded. That might even be better, since Saturday evening will go back to a normal evening for going out once this pandemicomonium goes away.

As for me personally, I can't make a 1900 Eastern net with my schedule. I can barely make a 2000 net (which was why I checked in late).

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I'm willing to toss my SN on the air but I'd be the most comfortable with not naming the sites web address Ar15.com. Call it arfcom or somthing, I know Google will still get you here but one little thing between my callsign(address) and posts about my guns is nice. That might be slightly tinfoily but it seems like a nice middle ground to me.

ETA: another possibility is that we could "salt" our screen names over the air to make them less easy to search for. Example, add arf to the beginning. So I'd check in as my call plus arfltcetme. Harder to copy if you don't know what to expect but easy to copy if you do.

My database of calls currently consists of only three arfhams.

I should keep better notes on the scratch pad.

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3/22/2020 10:24:30 AM EDT
[#22]
Tagged for interest!
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3/22/2020 10:38:21 AM EDT
[#23]
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Originally Posted By mancow:


I heard you I think. I think you mentioned hanging out in the retro forum.
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Yah, that wuz me! As far as identifying ARFonians goes I belong to OMISS and they assign a member number, maybe ARFCOM could assign a "member number?"
3/22/2020 11:02:56 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By justinbowser:



Yah, that wuz me! As far as identifying ARFonians goes I belong to OMISS and they assign a member number, maybe ARFCOM could assign a "member number?"
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I like that idea.
3/22/2020 12:28:35 PM EDT
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Me too.

I was too busy yesterday to participate as I was getting my truck ready for a 2400 mi cross country roadtrip. I will start a separate thread about it so you guys can track me via APRS.

Sounds like a good time was had.

Great job Arf Hams.
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3/22/2020 12:29:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By justinbowser:

..., maybe ARFCOM could assign a "member number?"
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This was brought up years ago.

We already have ARFCOM numbers, and some of us have posted them in our QRZ.com pages.

Just hover your mouse over your screen name and look at the url

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3/22/2020 12:39:16 PM EDT
[#27]

I have no problem saying ar15.com or arfcom over the air, been doing it a long time on ssb, digital, DMR, etc.

I've had a pic of me shooting my M1 Garand on my QRZ for many years, it generates a lot of positive comments.

Only once, did I get a negative response, and that was from a fucking frenchman !

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QRZ is where hams typically go to see who there are talking to.

Some of you guys have great pages, and some of you have zero pics or info.

I suggest putting some stuff on there, pics of your station, hobbies, ect.

It's a great way to get a conversation rolling.

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3/22/2020 1:03:17 PM EDT
[#28]
I never noticed that before.  If Net Control could cross ref this then that would be perfect for check in.  If the operator doesn't have a number then they could be directed to this site for more info.
3/22/2020 1:05:24 PM EDT
[#29]
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Originally Posted By Derek45:


I have no problem saying ar15.com or arfcom over the air, been doing it a long time on ssb, digital, DMR, etc.

I've had a pic of me shooting my M1 Garand on my QRZ for many years, it generates a lot of positive comments.

Only once, did I get a negative response, and that was from a fucking frenchman !

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QRZ is where hams typically go to see who there are talking to.

Some of you guys have great pages, and some of you have zero pics or info.

I suggest putting some stuff on there, pics of your station, hobbies, ect.

It's a great way to get a conversation rolling.

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3/22/2020 1:25:29 PM EDT
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https://www.qrz.com/db/T6EC



Learned a lot that tour.
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Dude! They let you bring your own HF??

I was deployed right after 9/11 and into OIF (on ships obviously) and a couple of the guys tried to bring HF with them. Huuuuuge no no. You would have thought they asked to bring Chinese surveillance equipment with us. Issued radios and issued satcom only. Period. Any ham radios were a guaranteed confiscation and trip to see the man.
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3/22/2020 1:44:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By LTCetme:


Dude! They let you bring your own HF??

I was deployed right after 9/11 and into OIF (on ships obviously) and a couple of the guys tried to bring HF with them. Huuuuuge no no. You would have thought they asked to bring Chinese surveillance equipment with us. Issued radios and issued satcom only. Period. Any ham radios were a guaranteed confiscation and trip to see the man.
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Yep, all legal. One of only about 9 folks that had an Afghan license, at that time, almost all contractors or Military.

ETA: To apply, I had to get clearance from the NATO spectrum manager, who then submitted my application to the Afghan Ministry of Communications, waited about 10-12 weeks to get it back and went from there.

I learned how to work split by default as every time I got on and started getting spots, I would get mobbed. It was the most useful thing I did on my tour and I QSL'ed 100%.

Not many folks have worked Afghanistan.
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3/22/2020 1:48:36 PM EDT
[#32]
Darn, I didn't see this thread until just now.  Tagging for when it happens again.
3/22/2020 1:51:13 PM EDT
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https://www.qrz.com/db/T6EC



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That was awesome

too bad I never heard you.

that would have been cooler than @Brundoggie card

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3/22/2020 2:35:03 PM EDT
[#34]
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Originally Posted By alemonkey:
Darn, I didn't see this thread until just now.  Tagging for when it happens again.
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How long have you been a ham?
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3/22/2020 3:02:55 PM EDT
[#35]
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Originally Posted By elcope:



https://www.qrz.com/db/T6EC



Learned a lot that tour.
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Ahem, y'all might be interested in this if you've never heard it
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3/22/2020 4:46:35 PM EDT
[#36]
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Not many folks have worked Afghanistan.
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I have
http://piccoloshash.blogspot.com
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Rangers lead the way.

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3/22/2020 5:39:42 PM EDT
[#37]
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Originally Posted By Derek45:This was brought up years ago.

We already have ARFCOM numbers, and some of us have posted them in our QRZ.com pages.

Just hover your mouse over your screen name and look at the url
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That is probably not the best way to solve the problem. The net control operator has no way to know if a number is valid or not without a database. If there's a database, it's going to contain screen names and calls. So why bother adding another column for number? Plus, without that database it will be hard for the net control operator to write good AAR posts listing who checked in by screen name.

Again, I already have built up a pretty good database of screen names vs. calls, and I bet @seek2 has one also, because of the digi net. The list of screen names in the combined databases could be published (without call signs, of course). If you are not on the database just PM your call to net control and be put on.

When the net runs, check-in's can be checked against the database by call sign alone. Anyone not on the database can be asked on the air if they are a board member and, if they are, for a screen name. Anyone reluctant to put a screen name over the air can PM it later. They wouldn't have to be excluded.


3/22/2020 7:18:40 PM EDT
[#38]
I didn't ask for Arfcom screen names because many members were uncomfortable with the idea during our previous nets and emergency practice drills. I respect and value their privacy. Honestly, I don't even keep a list with Arfcom callsigns and screen names for the same reason.

Giving obscure numbers and code phrases may be against the FCC amateur radio license rules and regulations.  I have no problem calling CQ Arfcom because during the net, I paused once in a while and explained what Arfcom means.
Several guys did tell me their Arfcom screen name. Thank you.

Why not keep it simple? Just post a reply with something like: " I'm checked in". You can also send me a PM and you'll be included in the list.  Do this now and I'll compile and post a list in a couple of days.

Several guys mentioned that doing this on a weekend is not a good idea because of frequent contests. I totally agree. We can keep doing this on Tuesday evenings, like we used to.

Do you guys think that using an amp was a bad idea? A strong signal often generates a pileup. Once it happens, everyone jumps in. It's "monkey see, monkey do" from there on. LOL.  I thought about going split but the band was tightly packed. I had to use tight filters and a notch filter to be able to hear anything on the net frequency. 7.213 Mhz is a poor choice to start with. Too many AM stations near that frequency. Also, many ops don't even know how to work split.


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3/22/2020 7:23:07 PM EDT
[#39]
When is the next time we want to try a net? Freq?
3/22/2020 7:50:01 PM EDT
[#40]
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Originally Posted By Gyprat:
I didn't ask for Arfcom screen names because many members were uncomfortable with the idea during our previous nets and emergency practice drills. I respect and value their privacy. Honestly, I don't even keep a list with Arfcom callsigns and screen names for the same reason.

Giving obscure numbers and code phrases may be against the FCC amateur radio license rules and regulations.  I have no problem calling CQ Arfcom because during the net, I paused once in a while and explained what Arfcom means.
Several guys did tell me their Arfcom screen name. Thank you.

Why not keep it simple? Just post a reply with something like: " I'm checked in". You can also send me a PM and you'll be included in the list.  Do this now and I'll compile and post a list in a couple of days.

Several guys mentioned that doing this on a weekend is not a good idea because of frequent contests. I totally agree. We can keep doing this on Tuesday evenings, like we used to.

Do you guys think that using an amp was a bad idea? A strong signal often generates a pileup. Once it happens, everyone jumps in. It's "monkey see, monkey do" from there on. LOL.  I thought about going split but the band was tightly packed. I had to use tight filters and a notch filter to be able to hear anything on the net frequency. 7.213 Mhz is a poor choice to start with. Too many AM stations near that frequency. Also, many ops don't even know how to work split.


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I do agree we should be able to keep our screen names and call signs seperated if wanted. Ive nothing to hide but would prefer they not come up together with a google search. You just don't know what the political climate may be in the future.
Net control should run an amp if possible.
Split operation, where better to learn? you can follow the thread and post for help if needed.
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3/22/2020 8:14:11 PM EDT
[#41]
Split would be OK for check in purposes, but likely have to switch to simplex for any group comments/discussion.

Good move going to call sign numbers during the net when the feeding frenzy was greatest.  Calling for mobiles, portables, etc helped those operators.  

3/22/2020 8:24:27 PM EDT
[#42]
Personally I like NC running an amp it's soooo much easier to track what's going on.
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3/22/2020 9:01:00 PM EDT
[#43]
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How long have you been a ham?
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Originally Posted By alemonkey:
Darn, I didn't see this thread until just now.  Tagging for when it happens again.
How long have you been a ham?
Got my Tech last fall, General just a couple months ago.
3/22/2020 9:05:39 PM EDT
[#44]
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Originally Posted By alemonkey:
Got my Tech last fall, General just a couple months ago.
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Awesome!
86435
Rest in peace Sparky
3/22/2020 9:40:21 PM EDT
[#45]
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Originally Posted By LTCetme:
Personally I like NC running an amp it's soooo much easier to track what's going on.
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I agree, on the nets I've participated in it helps a lot to have NC booming loud and clear.
3/23/2020 10:07:19 AM EDT
[#46]
Late to the party, but I'll be tuned to 7.213 during the day (most of the week) if anyone is restless. Working from home has benefits.
3/23/2020 1:03:24 PM EDT
[#47]
How about we try again tomorrow,Tuesday, March 24th at 8:00 PM (Eastern Time) on 40 meters, same Arfcom frequencies?

I'll leave the amp on.
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3/23/2020 1:25:27 PM EDT
[#48]
I'm in Idaho but would like to participate.

Band is not an issue, and I have a TL-922A Amp.
3/23/2020 2:34:17 PM EDT
[#49]
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Originally Posted By Gyprat:
How about we try again tomorrow,Tuesday, March 24th at 8:00 PM (Eastern Time) on 40 meters, same Arfcom frequencies?

I'll leave the amp on.
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sounds good.  I'll try to be on!
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3/23/2020 2:53:24 PM EDT
[#50]
I'm in.

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