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Simple explanation, lost on many here:

They don't WANT to have to 'survive' - they want things the way they are now, and don't care what has to be done, or what they must give up to keep it that way...

For many people in the US, 'surviving' is not worth it, if they have to 'live a life worse than hell' (eg, live a 3rd-world existence) to do so...

As a direct contrast to those here who think life in anarchy/chaos would be great, and they could finally be 'left alone'....

While the 'me & my family' attitude is understandable on the part of the married folks who literally do live for their family...

For the single population, many will say 'what's the point'?
 

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I'm single and I know what the point is. I understand your point though. My ex-wife was bad about that. We lived 90 miles of dirtroad from the nearest store and she STILL couldn't understand. When we moved closer to town, she finally declared that even if S did HTF, her "real" family wouldn't survive and that meant she wouldn't want to survive either.

Of course, this is the same ex-wife that considered going to her mom's more important than spending XMas with her husband, so.....

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What scares me are, the ddruggies looking for their next fix, the gangs who will be totally uncontrollale and out in force without fear of LEO's, and the welfare receiptants who have not, do not know how to work will suddenly be without food, heat, etc and they to will be adding to the chaos, all they know are handouts, take those away and what do you have?

ETA, I remember, my dad telling me that durning the great depression, they had starving people trying to steal food (livestock and from the garden), and some trying to break in and get anything they could.  This in itself is expected, ut these were people from Seattle (and Seattle area) and we live in in Cenrtal/Eastern Washington, a good 3 hours by car now, or about 200 miles.  These people just kept fanning out, to travel that far has made me rethink my whole plan as now it take what 3 hours to get her and what a week back then?

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And while we are trying to survive what do you think the Chinese will be doing?  Our only hope will be someone from the military to do what Cesar did and restore the Republic.
Cesar's mistake was not throwing the senate to the lions when he had the chance.

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And while we are trying to survive what do you think the Chinese will be doing?  Our only hope will be someone from the military to do what Cesar did and restore the Republic.





Cesar's mistake was not throwing the senate to the lions when he had the chance.

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Its an odd generation gap that currently exists.  You have the "old and mighty" in congress who grew up being hippies and listening to disco.  This generation was a carefree generation who grew up during Vietnam and thus were taught to love everyone and all will be well.  I grew up in the 80's and was too young to be a yuppy.  However, I was old enough to grow through elementary school and not have a color tv or a computer.  My brother always had a computer in school and by the time he entered kindergarten, there was a unified Germany.

I have a unique perspective in things as my parents were divorced and I lived with my father while my brother lived with my mother.  My father grew up in the city but his grandmother lived on the farm until she died.  He remembers having a chamber pot in his farm bedroom and how he's stay in bed until his grandmother woke up and lit the wood stove to heat the lower level of the farmhouse.  My mother grew up in the city and was "by her words" a jockette.  She always had things well off while my father remembers shooting rats with a BB gun in his fathers apartment.  All of this said, growing up does not dictate your future.  Both my father and mother (deceased) have/had successful lives and are well off presently.

Now on to my brother and I.  We are both successful and have promising careers.  Mine is more blue collar while his is white collar.  Even though we had a computer in the house, I never "owned" one until I was enlisted in Okinawa.  My brother had a computer in his room before he was dome with elementary school.  He is also liberal while I'm conservative.  We can get together and do the "family thing" yet he and I are not close.

The point I make is that there is a society gap as big, if not bigger, that what existed in the early 40's.  From where I sit (I'm in my 30's), I see my paternal grandmother who can field strip a garand blindfolded (she taught the marines heading to Asia during WWII) and my maternal grandfather would was wounded in Belgium.  I see my father who is a PhD andwell known in his field yet puts on holey jeans, jean jacket and ragged boots while working on the out buildings on the family farm.  My mother was the socialite jockette, loved by everyone and known by everyone.

I hate cellphones and hate them but realize I need them to stay "connected".  My brother is in IT and can't live without it.  Translate this into general society and a vast majority of people have grown up in a urban/suburban area where you could always get whatever you needed by simply walking or driving a few miles.  These people are the ones who seem "blind" to how bad things could get.  They simply don't understand not being able to get something.  I grew up hunting frogs, making my own fishing poles and using my imagination.

The people who "don't understand" are the ones giving the gov't its current power.  Since they are beginning to realize that they cannot get everything they need/want, they're asking for help and the gov't is more than willing to listen...for a price.  The cost of that price depends upon the overall economy.  If it stabilizes/improves, then the masses will start to demand less control by the gov't.  If the economy gets worse, he masses will ask for more help and the gov't will gain more control.  History proves this.  The "new deal" worked and the masses wanted less gov't control.  The German economy continued to decline which allowed the Nazis to gain more power.

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