Be careful as I believe they are considered a club here in Texas which is illegal for ordinary citizens to carry.

In shtf they take up minimal space and would fit on a duty belt ok. As far as whacking people in regular day, prob best to spray and fight/run. Use more effective measures if facing deadly force threat.

The old saw of the hippy hiker ---turned to bear scat with bells in it...

Suggests an ASP carrying Prepper, out cold and bent over, with an ASP sticking out his ass.

Now think abt this EMT...

Suppose you had spent the $$$ on that Mickey Mouse emotionally driven toy car FIRST...

Then your wife's car broke down a week or two later?

How would your financial situation be then?????  


I've always said here...

NEVER let yourself get House Poor, Land Poor, or anything else Poor.

Always leave room for financial maneuver, while CONTROLLING your [often childlike] emotions.

Never let the Bank, get you over a barrel. [Bankers LOVE me when I tell them that  


We've seen a major example of this in the past couple weeks, where somebuddy runs a good chance of losing his financial ass, that could have been avoided by following this common sense suggestion.

Now I know you were speaking generally there and not trying to be a douche bag...right?

I hear you on poor but the Miata or Subaru or whatever we land on...will serve as the third vehicle.  So if her's breaks down...no problem...use the back-up.  Then we can take our time and I can do the repairs myself rather than being forced to pay a mechanic for overnight work.

As for the major example, I'm really not sure who/what you're referencing.  I haven't been reading many threads lately.  

-Emt1581

While ASP batons have the capability to pack up and get small, I would rather carry a crowbar.  The crowbar could serve as the offensive weapon like the ASP but with additional functional purposes as well.

No, they are not only illegal to carry but useless.  

If you let someone get that close, you've not handled the situation well. and even if you had one you could not pull it out in time.

If you can't fight hand to hand, it's not going to help you anyway.

In my opinion, not a useful addition...extra weight for nothing back.