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Originally Posted By Hoji:
So, They claim they did not know what IFMA was doing?https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/141911/IMG-1972-200069.JPG They need to disband IFMA or at least fire Keller immediately. |
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Originally Posted By BUCK1911:
I don't believe you. Your statement sounds like it was written by FHRC reps. Can someone? point me in another direction for a 6.5 CM AR? Originally Posted By BUCK1911:
Originally Posted By RRAMODERATOR:
Our statement is available from the home page of our web site, www.rockriverarms.com. It reads: For immediate release: May 1, 2017 Rock River Arms< inc (RRA) wants to assure the Illinois (and national) firearms community that we are still 100 percent opposed ot the Gun dealer Licensing Act-SB1657, the house version of the same bill, and any potential final legislation that may come from those bills along with any other infringements on th egun rights of law-abiding citizens everywhere. For more than twenty years, Rock River Arms and Springfield Armory have actively opposed gun control legislation at the local, state, and federal levels. In 2009, we partnered with other manufacturers to form an organization geared towards representing our interests-The Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA). Historically, that organization has done well in representing us in Springfield, Illinois. We had no reason to believe that it was doing anything beyond representing the firearms community's (Illinois firearms manufacturers, dealers, and gun owners) bet interests, keeping us we;;-informed on relevant legislation and issues, acting on our behalf. In the case of SB1657, there was a disconnect and that representation was misguided. While we do believe that IFMA acted in what it felt was the best interests of its members, we were as shocked as everyone else to find ourselves exempted from provisions of SB1657 and that IFMA was no longer opposing that bill even though RRA still opposed it. Again, Rock River Arms wants to emphasize (regardless of anything that may have been said or done, mistakenly or otherwise, by any other party on our behalf) its continued total opposition to SB1657, the Illinois House version of the same bill and any final legislation that may emrge. This includes any provisions found in Gun dealer Licensing Act SB1657, along with any other threats that may infringe upon our gun rights. If you have any further questions or require more information about our position, please contact: Sarah Larson, General manager or Steve Mayer, LE, Government, and International Sales Manager at 309-792-5780. Thank you. Chuck Larson President/Owner Rock River Arms, Inc. I'm the Steve mentioned as one of the POCs on this. If you have questions or want additional information, please call me. Thanks. Steve/RRA Your statement sounds like it was written by FHRC reps. Can someone? point me in another direction for a 6.5 CM AR? |
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Originally Posted By ludder093:
As a long time supporter of RRA I say that story is bullshit. You're responsible for how your representative handles himself and since you didn't fire his ass I can only assume you are okay with what he's done. Plausible deniability won't save your ass. |
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Originally Posted By Hoji:
From the thread in GDSA and RRA Political Donations |
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Originally Posted By thezentree:
Wow. Go ahead RRA, try to explain how your lobbyist has been selling out gun owners for FOUR YEARS without your knowledge. Originally Posted By thezentree:
Originally Posted By Hoji:
From the thread in GDSA and RRA Political Donations |
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They got caught and are now playing the victim. That's sad. Rock River |
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@RRAMODERATOR Lets see you explain this away.
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2017/05/john-boch/springfield-armory-rock-river-arms-made-campaign-contributions-to-anti-gun-rights-politicians/ Donating to Madigan and cullerton? You guys are sellout of the worst kind and I hope you guys go bankrupt. |
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RRA severs ties with IFMA
New RRA statement on IFMA https://www.rockriverarms.com/images/pdfs/RRA_Stmt217.pdf For immediate release: May 2, 2017 After further review, Rock River Arms, Inc.® (RRA) is immediately severing all ties with the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA). We feel that IFMAs integrity is compromised and we will not be a part of the organization. We trusted that contributions and resources provided to IFMA by RRA were being used to promote and uphold our 2nd Amendment values. IFMAs actions have destroyed that trust. For more than twenty years, RRA has actively opposed gun control legislation at the local, state, and federal levels. We have supported and provided monetary and product donations to multiple pro-gun organizations including NRA, NSSF, ISRA and countless others. We have attended rallies and spoken at educational events on behalf of gun owners rights. Our employees have collected signatures, written letters and e-mails, called legislators offices, as well as attended events, meetings and hearings in Springfield, Illinois. What we learned, however, was that we are better at manufacturing firearms and accessories than playing political games at the state capitol. So, we began to utilize the services of lobbyists, first through other organizations and then in 2009, we partnered with several other manufacturers to form IFMA. Prior to our further review, we believed that the organization had accurately represented us. We feel that IFMAs actions have compromised its integrity. While their actions may be standard practices at the capitol, backdoor politics and convoluted deal-making are counter to the way we do business and lead our lives. I sincerely apologize for my lack of direct engagement in IFMAs governance and subsequent actions, as well as the abandonment gun owners are feeling. If you have any questions regarding, or need more information about, this statement or RRAs position, please contact: Sarah Larson, RRA General Manager at 309-792-5780. Thank you, Chuck Larson President/Owner Rock River Arms, Inc. |
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Originally Posted By InterestedBystander:
RRA severs ties with IFMA New RRA statement on IFMA https://www.rockriverarms.com/images/pdfs/RRA_Stmt217.pdf For immediate release: May 2, 2017 After further review, Rock River Arms, Inc.® (RRA) is immediately severing all ties with the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA). We feel that IFMAs integrity is compromised and we will not be a part of the organization. We trusted that contributions and resources provided to IFMA by RRA were being used to promote and uphold our 2nd Amendment values. IFMAs actions have destroyed that trust. For more than twenty years, RRA has actively opposed gun control legislation at the local, state, and federal levels. We have supported and provided monetary and product donations to multiple pro-gun organizations including NRA, NSSF, ISRA and countless others. We have attended rallies and spoken at educational events on behalf of gun owners rights. Our employees have collected signatures, written letters and e-mails, called legislators offices, as well as attended events, meetings and hearings in Springfield, Illinois. What we learned, however, was that we are better at manufacturing firearms and accessories than playing political games at the state capitol. So, we began to utilize the services of lobbyists, first through other organizations and then in 2009, we partnered with several other manufacturers to form IFMA. Prior to our further review, we believed that the organization had accurately represented us. We feel that IFMAs actions have compromised its integrity. While their actions may be standard practices at the capitol, backdoor politics and convoluted deal-making are counter to the way we do business and lead our lives. I sincerely apologize for my lack of direct engagement in IFMAs governance and subsequent actions, as well as the abandonment gun owners are feeling. If you have any questions regarding, or need more information about, this statement or RRAs position, please contact: Sarah Larson, RRA General Manager at 309-792-5780. Thank you, Chuck Larson President/Owner Rock River Arms, Inc. |
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Originally Posted By InterestedBystander:
RRA severs ties with IFMA New RRA statement on IFMA https://www.rockriverarms.com/images/pdfs/RRA_Stmt217.pdf For immediate release: May 2, 2017 After further review, Rock River Arms, Inc.® (RRA) is immediately severing all ties with the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA). We feel that IFMAs integrity is compromised and we will not be a part of the organization. We trusted that contributions and resources provided to IFMA by RRA were being used to promote and uphold our 2nd Amendment values. IFMAs actions have destroyed that trust. For more than twenty years, RRA has actively opposed gun control legislation at the local, state, and federal levels. We have supported and provided monetary and product donations to multiple pro-gun organizations including NRA, NSSF, ISRA and countless others. We have attended rallies and spoken at educational events on behalf of gun owners rights. Our employees have collected signatures, written letters and e-mails, called legislators offices, as well as attended events, meetings and hearings in Springfield, Illinois. What we learned, however, was that we are better at manufacturing firearms and accessories than playing political games at the state capitol. So, we began to utilize the services of lobbyists, first through other organizations and then in 2009, we partnered with several other manufacturers to form IFMA. Prior to our further review, we believed that the organization had accurately represented us. We feel that IFMAs actions have compromised its integrity. While their actions may be standard practices at the capitol, backdoor politics and convoluted deal-making are counter to the way we do business and lead our lives. I sincerely apologize for my lack of direct engagement in IFMAs governance and subsequent actions, as well as the abandonment gun owners are feeling. If you have any questions regarding, or need more information about, this statement or RRAs position, please contact: Sarah Larson, RRA General Manager at 309-792-5780. Thank you, Chuck Larson President/Owner Rock River Arms, Inc. RRA & Springfield ARE the IFMA. https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/IFMA-Form-990-2012.pdf ILLINOIS FIREARMS MANUFACTURERS ASSOCIATION Form 990EZ, Part IV - List of Officers, Directors, Trustees, and Key Employees DENNIS REESE (SA) TOM REESE (SA) JAY KELLER (their lobbyist) MARK LARSON (RRA) CHUCK LARSON (RRA) RRA and SA through IFMA have also donated tens of thousands of dollars to Illinois anti-gun politicians over the last several years. https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2017/05/john-boch/springfield-armory-rock-river-arms-made-campaign-contributions-to-anti-gun-rights-politicians/ |
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Originally Posted By InterestedBystander:
RRA severs ties with IFMA New RRA statement on IFMA https://www.rockriverarms.com/images/pdfs/RRA_Stmt217.pdf For immediate release: May 2, 2017 After further review, Rock River Arms, Inc.® (RRA) is immediately severing all ties with the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA). We feel that IFMAs integrity is compromised and we will not be a part of the organization. We trusted that contributions and resources provided to IFMA by RRA were being used to promote and uphold our 2nd Amendment values. IFMAs actions have destroyed that trust. For more than twenty years, RRA has actively opposed gun control legislation at the local, state, and federal levels. We have supported and provided monetary and product donations to multiple pro-gun organizations including NRA, NSSF, ISRA and countless others. We have attended rallies and spoken at educational events on behalf of gun owners rights. Our employees have collected signatures, written letters and e-mails, called legislators offices, as well as attended events, meetings and hearings in Springfield, Illinois. What we learned, however, was that we are better at manufacturing firearms and accessories than playing political games at the state capitol. So, we began to utilize the services of lobbyists, first through other organizations and then in 2009, we partnered with several other manufacturers to form IFMA. Prior to our further review, we believed that the organization had accurately represented us. We feel that IFMAs actions have compromised its integrity. While their actions may be standard practices at the capitol, backdoor politics and convoluted deal-making are counter to the way we do business and lead our lives. I sincerely apologize for my lack of direct engagement in IFMAs governance and subsequent actions, as well as the abandonment gun owners are feeling. If you have any questions regarding, or need more information about, this statement or RRAs position, please contact: Sarah Larson, RRA General Manager at 309-792-5780. Thank you, Chuck Larson President/Owner Rock River Arms, Inc. we had no idea what our paid lobbyist was doing! I swear we didn't realize we were giving out 10's of thousands of dollars to the WORST politicians in Illinois and we didn't know what this dealer licensing bill was. 
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| Mr. Larson, You better be on your hands and knees pleading with Governor Rauner to not sign that bill! This is another huge load of crap being pushed onto legally licensed firearms retailers and legal gun owners that will cause no changes to the crime rate on in the south and west sides of Chicago. Law abiding businesses and citizens are the ones who continually pay for the actions of criminals who don't follow the law. You sold us out on this bill and that is absolutely disgusting! You deserve every bit of business loss from this stunt you pulled. I do not believe the excuses you have come out with. I truly believe you knowingly participated in these actions and that is something that will not be forgotten. |
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RRA severs ties with IFMA
New RRA statement on IFMA https://www.rockriverarms.com/images/pdfs/RRA_Stmt217.pdf For immediate release: May 2, 2017 After further review, Rock River Arms, Inc.® (RRA) is immediately severing all ties with the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA). We feel that IFMAs integrity is compromised and we will not be a part of the organization. We trusted that contributions and resources provided to IFMA by RRA were being used to promote and uphold our 2nd Amendment values. IFMAs actions have destroyed that trust. For more than twenty years, RRA has actively opposed gun control legislation at the local, state, and federal levels. We have supported and provided monetary and product donations to multiple pro-gun organizations including NRA, NSSF, ISRA and countless others. We have attended rallies and spoken at educational events on behalf of gun owners rights. Our employees have collected signatures, written letters and e-mails, called legislators offices, as well as attended events, meetings and hearings in Springfield, Illinois. What we learned, however, was that we are better at manufacturing firearms and accessories than playing political games at the state capitol. So, we began to utilize the services of lobbyists, first through other organizations and then in 2009, we partnered with several other manufacturers to form IFMA. Prior to our further review, we believed that the organization had accurately represented us. We feel that IFMAs actions have compromised its integrity. While their actions may be standard practices at the capitol, backdoor politics and convoluted deal-making are counter to the way we do business and lead our lives. I sincerely apologize for my lack of direct engagement in IFMAs governance and subsequent actions, as well as the abandonment gun owners are feeling. If you have any questions regarding, or need more information about, this statement or RRAs position, please contact: Sarah Larson, RRA General Manager at 309-792-5780. Thank you, Chuck Larson President/Owner Rock River Arms, Inc. ITS NOT A FEELING >>>>ITS REALITY And I have to live with it, along with 12.86 million neighbors .... Chuck |
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Originally Posted By dcm223:
Severing all ties with the IFMA? What a fucking joke. RRA & Springfield ARE the IFMA. https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/IFMA-Form-990-2012.pdf ILLINOIS FIREARMS MANUFACTURERS ASSOCIATION Form 990EZ, Part IV - List of Officers, Directors, Trustees, and Key Employees DENNIS REESE (SA) TOM REESE (SA) JAY KELLER (their lobbyist) MARK LARSON (RRA) CHUCK LARSON (RRA) RRA and SA through IFMA have also donated tens of thousands of dollars to Illinois anti-gun politicians over the last several years. https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2017/05/john-boch/springfield-armory-rock-river-arms-made-campaign-contributions-to-anti-gun-rights-politicians/ |
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Sounds to me RRA probably did get back door by SA. Don't get me wrong no sympathy from me because once the Senate Bill gets that far along, good 2A citizens and FFL are screwed once it likely becomes law regardless of how RRA/SA now feels. If the state knows what is good for them in terms of loss revenue, maybe - just maybe it doesn't get signed.
If RRA is really just along for the ride, how do you get off? You can't because it's too late, you get thrown out and now all is left is to pray... |
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Originally Posted By Roadhawk:
Mr. Larson, You better be on your hands and knees pleading with Governor Rauner to not sign that bill! This is another huge load of crap being pushed onto legally licensed firearms retailers and legal gun owners that will cause no changes to the crime rate on in the south and west sides of Chicago. Law abiding businesses and citizens are the ones who continually pay for the actions of criminals who don't follow the law. You sold us out on this bill and that is absolutely disgusting! You deserve every bit of business loss from this stunt you pulled. I do not believe the excuses you have come out with. I truly believe you knowingly participated in these actions and that is something that will not be forgotten. Originally Posted By Roadhawk:
Mr. Larson, You better be on your hands and knees pleading with Governor Rauner to not sign that bill! This is another huge load of crap being pushed onto legally licensed firearms retailers and legal gun owners that will cause no changes to the crime rate on in the south and west sides of Chicago. Law abiding businesses and citizens are the ones who continually pay for the actions of criminals who don't follow the law. You sold us out on this bill and that is absolutely disgusting! You deserve every bit of business loss from this stunt you pulled. I do not believe the excuses you have come out with. I truly believe you knowingly participated in these actions and that is something that will not be forgotten. Originally Posted By bts1981:
Madigan? As an Illinois resident that really hurts. |
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Originally Posted By bts1981:
Madigan? As an Illinois resident that really hurts. |
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Originally Posted By BadMonk:
So they're apologizing and withdrawing from a group they're half of and didn't know what their own group was doing? I've been getting NRA ILA alerts on this bill for months! You can't tell me those traitors had no idea the bill was so bad. It's total and complete bullshit. Both companies need to own up to it and live with the repercussions. |
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Originally Posted By ludder093:
Both companies have caved to pressure and withdrawn from the group. Too little too late, who the fuck doesn't know about a bill that would negatively effect their business? I've been getting NRA ILA alerts on this bill for months! You can't tell me those traitors had no idea the bill was so bad. It's total and complete bullshit. Both companies need to own up to it and live with the repercussions. |
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The 5/2 release points to one of two serious problems...
1- Senior management is incompetent - they were unable to keep managerial control over an entity they paid to represent themselves, their brand and their industry in the public realm. 2- Senior management is competent - they actually thought it was acceptable to play politics with important American rights. The political donation records make me think there is more #2 than #1 involved in this situation. (unexpected pun is completely appropriate  )
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Let the carnage begin. Holy shit. RRA... I love your products. But you screwed up. Words will not fix this.... Get a pair and DO something. When I screw up with my wife... An apology doesn't go real far if it's a big screw up. I gptta buy her flowers and take her to her favorite resteraunt or buy her some jewelry.... I have to tell her what I learned and how I will avoid doing it in the future. Dudes... Fucking grow a pair and make this right... Sacrifice. Quit worrying about your fucking bottom line. You want to go to your grave with the stigma of having sold out true patriots? We are not judged by our mistakes... We are judged by what we do (or don't do) about them. Get to work. |
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Originally Posted By dcm223:
Severing all ties with the IFMA? What a fucking joke. RRA & Springfield ARE the IFMA. https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/IFMA-Form-990-2012.pdf ILLINOIS FIREARMS MANUFACTURERS ASSOCIATION Form 990EZ, Part IV - List of Officers, Directors, Trustees, and Key Employees DENNIS REESE (SA) TOM REESE (SA) JAY KELLER (their lobbyist) MARK LARSON (RRA) CHUCK LARSON (RRA) RRA and SA through IFMA have also donated tens of thousands of dollars to Illinois anti-gun politicians over the last several years. https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2017/05/john-boch/springfield-armory-rock-river-arms-made-campaign-contributions-to-anti-gun-rights-politicians/ Originally Posted By dcm223:
Originally Posted By InterestedBystander:
RRA severs ties with IFMA New RRA statement on IFMA https://www.rockriverarms.com/images/pdfs/RRA_Stmt217.pdf For immediate release: May 2, 2017 After further review, Rock River Arms, Inc.® (RRA) is immediately severing all ties with the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA). We feel that IFMAs integrity is compromised and we will not be a part of the organization. We trusted that contributions and resources provided to IFMA by RRA were being used to promote and uphold our 2nd Amendment values. IFMAs actions have destroyed that trust. For more than twenty years, RRA has actively opposed gun control legislation at the local, state, and federal levels. We have supported and provided monetary and product donations to multiple pro-gun organizations including NRA, NSSF, ISRA and countless others. We have attended rallies and spoken at educational events on behalf of gun owners rights. Our employees have collected signatures, written letters and e-mails, called legislators offices, as well as attended events, meetings and hearings in Springfield, Illinois. What we learned, however, was that we are better at manufacturing firearms and accessories than playing political games at the state capitol. So, we began to utilize the services of lobbyists, first through other organizations and then in 2009, we partnered with several other manufacturers to form IFMA. Prior to our further review, we believed that the organization had accurately represented us. We feel that IFMAs actions have compromised its integrity. While their actions may be standard practices at the capitol, backdoor politics and convoluted deal-making are counter to the way we do business and lead our lives. I sincerely apologize for my lack of direct engagement in IFMAs governance and subsequent actions, as well as the abandonment gun owners are feeling. If you have any questions regarding, or need more information about, this statement or RRAs position, please contact: Sarah Larson, RRA General Manager at 309-792-5780. Thank you, Chuck Larson President/Owner Rock River Arms, Inc. RRA & Springfield ARE the IFMA. https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/IFMA-Form-990-2012.pdf ILLINOIS FIREARMS MANUFACTURERS ASSOCIATION Form 990EZ, Part IV - List of Officers, Directors, Trustees, and Key Employees DENNIS REESE (SA) TOM REESE (SA) JAY KELLER (their lobbyist) MARK LARSON (RRA) CHUCK LARSON (RRA) RRA and SA through IFMA have also donated tens of thousands of dollars to Illinois anti-gun politicians over the last several years. https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2017/05/john-boch/springfield-armory-rock-river-arms-made-campaign-contributions-to-anti-gun-rights-politicians/ |
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Originally Posted By JTizel:
Sounds to me RRA probably did get back door by SA. Don't get me wrong no sympathy from me because once the Senate Bill gets that far along, good 2A citizens and FFL are screwed once it likely becomes law regardless of how RRA/SA now feels. If the state knows what is good for them in terms of loss revenue, maybe - just maybe it doesn't get signed. If RRA is really just along for the ride, how do you get off? You can't because it's too late, you get thrown out and now all is left is to pray... They'll just tax the rest of us more to make up for the loss... |
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Originally Posted By MaverickAA:
Enjoy you're bankruptcy A-holes. Hope you and SA hold hands as you go down the drain. Why are RRA and SA even allowed to be industry partners on here anymore, since they just F'ed their own customers? Mods... I do believe they should be yanked/barred. And SA has no "Industry partnership" here, just RRA. |
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WHY THIS IS A BAD BILL..... the one RRA and SpringField Armory are on record for ( they both publicly denounce its support)...... talk is cheap
This bill contains many toxic elements as well as elements that are potentially toxic but as of now undefined: Fees to be determined by rule. A quick guess is that 15 inspectors would be required to inspect 1500 FFL’s statewide. At $100,000 fully loaded salary cost per inspector, the 1500 FFL’s would see a fee of $3000 each over a three-year period. No doubt, a $3000 fee would discourage some of the 1500 FFL’s to abandon the business, raising the cost per remaining FFL, and these costs will have to be passed along to customers. Security requirements to be determined by rule. One size fits all security makes no sense. Will they require a particular brand of video camera? Will they require a particular type of lock? We don’t know, because the rule hasn’t been made. Training requirements will be determined by rule. They could require 60 hours of training per employee. On the dealer’s dime. You as a Law Abiding individual are limited to 9 “transfers” per year, but “transfer” is to be determined by law. Is that 9 purchases? 9 Sales? 9 of either? 9 of both? It’s to be determined by rule, and you could be conceivably limited to fewer than 1 purchase or sale per month, and the State has now established a limit on how many firearms you may purchase or sell. Anyone who purchases a firearm will be subjected to warrantless electronic surveillance by the authorities. Additionally, personal information of all legal gun buyers will be gathered and electronically indexed by state agencies. They could if they wanted to create Illinois’ own version of a 4473. They could require the reporting of every gun sold and to whom we sold it. If enacted, this bill will drive many small FFL’s out of business and raise costs for larger shops all while doing nothing to address the gang violence problem in certain precincts of Cook County. WHAT WE ARE DOING? Northern Illinois Dealers are contributing financially to put more “boots on the ground” in Springfield next week. Dealer principals will contact key representatives individually and in person as well. This is an all-hands-on-deck effort. WHAT YOU CAN DO The House is out of session this week, so contact their District Office this week. The House is in session next week, so contact their Springfield Office next week. |
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Originally Posted By MaverickAA:
Enjoy you're bankruptcy A-holes. Hope you and SA hold hands as you go down the drain. Why are RRA and SA even allowed to be industry partners on here anymore, since they just F'ed their own customers? Mods... I do believe they should be yanked/barred. Read the other thread and goatboy has mentioned this. A mod has no power here for a partner ban |
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Originally Posted By notillr:
Give us a hint? Originally Posted By notillr:
Originally Posted By AlvinYork:
received a response to the two emails I sent RRA. Not very satisfying. Thank you, Rock River Arms, Inc. |
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Originally Posted By AlvinYork:
We appreciate your concern in regard to SB1657. To discuss the matter further, please contact Sarah Larson, General Manager at 309-792-5780. Thank you, Rock River Arms, Inc. Originally Posted By AlvinYork:
Originally Posted By notillr:
Originally Posted By AlvinYork:
received a response to the two emails I sent RRA. Not very satisfying. Thank you, Rock River Arms, Inc. 
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