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Originally Posted By 4in1:
Wow. Springfields Wiki is even better. By the way, I just called RRA. They said they will have a press release tomorrow. should be interesting. |
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I have three RRA rifles, with plans for two more, until now. To say I'm pissed off is an understatement. This is completely unacceptable.
At the moment, I hoping their PR is just terrible, and they were hoodwinked by a lobbyist. But their lack of an official statement saying that 100% oppose this and are terminating their membership in the IFMA is very worrisome. I'm holding off on any RRA purchases until such a statement is released. |
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https://www.rockriverarms.com/ back up |
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If true fuck them.
I've done business with RRA since 2005. Have 1 RRA factory rifle, 1 complete factory upper, 3 or 4 two stage triggers, a bunch of lower parts kits from them. I always regarded them as quality kit. If they sold out I hope they go out of business. |
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Not too many things can say FUCK YOU like a 30-06 Black Tip. -cavedog
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My first AR was a DPMS. While it is a fine rifle and has served me quite well in NRA High Power for the past nine years, it is made in Minnesota.
Screw Minnesota. My next two AR's came from Rock River, and are were excellent rifles. I'm on the verge of buying a new A2 match upper, and it's down to either RRA or White Oak Armament (who is ALSO from Illinois). Was leaning toward RRA... but we'll see. |
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Originally Posted By dryvalleyboy:
It's being sanitized rapidly. Originally Posted By dryvalleyboy:
Originally Posted By usa-1963:
Page 4 says.....Get a load of Wikipedia RRA...  |
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Originally Posted By dryvalleyboy:
It's being sanitized rapidly. Originally Posted By dryvalleyboy:
Originally Posted By usa-1963:
Page 4 says.....Get a load of Wikipedia RRA... 
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This farm is NOT on the dole...
South of I-80 Illinois is NOT Shitcago!!!
South of I-80 Illinois is NOT Shitcago!!!
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Originally Posted By jagdkommando:
Nobody buys anything from RRA anymore anyway. The way the gun industry is since the election you can buy it from who ever makes it for RRA for the same price they sell it to RRA. My guess is that after this they are done. They make nice stuff, unfortunately I'll never give them another dime. |
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Originally Posted By notillr:
Ok, so they have time to clean their mess up on Wikipedia but not to give a good excuse/press release to their customers? |
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For immediate release: May 1, 2017Rock River Arms, Inc.® (RRA) wants to assure the Illinois (and national) firearms community that we are
still 100 percent opposed to the Gun Dealer Licensing Act - SB1657, the house version of the same bill, and any potential final legislation that may come from those bills along with any other infringements on the gun rights of law-abiding citizens everywhere. For more than twenty years, Rock River Arms and Springfield Armory have actively opposed gun control legislation at the local, state, and federal levels. In 2009, we partnered with other manufacturers to form an organization geared towards representing our interests - The Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA). Historically, that organization has done well in representing us in Springfield, Illinois. We had no reason to believe that it was doing anything beyond representing the firearms community’s (Illinois firearms manufacturers, dealers and gun owners) best interests, keeping us well-informed on relevant legislation and issues, acting on our behalf. In the case of SB1657, there was a disconnect and that representation was misguided. While we do believe that IFMA acted in what it felt was the best interests of its members, we were as shocked as everyone else to find ourselves exempted from provisions of SB1657 and that IFMA was no longer opposing that bill, even though RRA still opposed it. Again, Rock River Arms wants to emphasize (regardless of anything that may have been said or done, mistakenly or otherwise, by any other party on our behalf) its continued total opposition to SB1657, the Illinois House version of the bill and any final legislation that may emerge. This includes any provisions found in Gun Dealer Licensing Act SB1657, along with any other threats that may infringe upon our gun rights. If you have any further questions or require more information about our position, please contact: Sarah Larson, General Manager or Steve Mayer, LE, Government, and International Sales Manager at 309-792-5780. Thank you. Chuck Larson President/Owner Rock River Arms, Inc 
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Government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem. -Ronald Reagan-
Religion was born when the first con man met the first fool." --Mark Twain.
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Originally Posted By ludder093:
We got caught so it's the lobbyists fault! Notice they didn't fire them for this. https://img-comment-fun.9cache.com/media/aNoZ440/aEkzQePp_700wa_0.gif Originally Posted By ludder093:
For immediate release: May 1, 2017Rock River Arms, Inc.® (RRA) wants to assure the Illinois (and national) firearms community that we are
still 100 percent opposed to the Gun Dealer Licensing Act - SB1657, the house version of the same bill, and any potential final legislation that may come from those bills along with any other infringements on the gun rights of law-abiding citizens everywhere. For more than twenty years, Rock River Arms and Springfield Armory have actively opposed gun control legislation at the local, state, and federal levels. In 2009, we partnered with other manufacturers to form an organization geared towards representing our interests - The Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA). Historically, that organization has done well in representing us in Springfield, Illinois. We had no reason to believe that it was doing anything beyond representing the firearms community’s (Illinois firearms manufacturers, dealers and gun owners) best interests, keeping us well-informed on relevant legislation and issues, acting on our behalf. In the case of SB1657, there was a disconnect and that representation was misguided. While we do believe that IFMA acted in what it felt was the best interests of its members, we were as shocked as everyone else to find ourselves exempted from provisions of SB1657 and that IFMA was no longer opposing that bill, even though RRA still opposed it. Again, Rock River Arms wants to emphasize (regardless of anything that may have been said or done, mistakenly or otherwise, by any other party on our behalf) its continued total opposition to SB1657, the Illinois House version of the bill and any final legislation that may emerge. This includes any provisions found in Gun Dealer Licensing Act SB1657, along with any other threats that may infringe upon our gun rights. If you have any further questions or require more information about our position, please contact: Sarah Larson, General Manager or Steve Mayer, LE, Government, and International Sales Manager at 309-792-5780. Thank you. Chuck Larson President/Owner Rock River Arms, Inc https://img-comment-fun.9cache.com/media/aNoZ440/aEkzQePp_700wa_0.gif |
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Standing with their IFMA, going out of their way to say along side Sprinfield Armory.
If they'd fired the one & distanced the other plus say they would not accept the special treatment in the legislation, 'maybe' a little different. They did not do any of the above though.... 
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This farm is NOT on the dole...
South of I-80 Illinois is NOT Shitcago!!!
South of I-80 Illinois is NOT Shitcago!!!
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Originally Posted By AlvinYork:
did anyone make a copy of it? Originally Posted By AlvinYork:
Originally Posted By dryvalleyboy:
Originally Posted By usa-1963:
Page 4 says.....Get a load of Wikipedia RRA... Attached File |
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I am a total newb to this forum but have been an active shooting sports enthusiast for a long time. I wanted to come join here to share my feelings of how utterly APPALLING I find the actions of Rock River Arms and Springfield Armory. To sell out your Illinois dealers, FFL's and customers in order to carve out a beefy exemption for yourselves might be the single dumbest business decision I've seen made in the firearms industry this century. Your industry is over stocked, over crowded, and it's a 100% buyers market for the foreseeable future. Not only that, you have a gazillion anti's with deep pockets trying to screw us all more and more everyday. Jesus, I seriously can't believe this decision. You deserve to go out of business, IMHO, and I hope you do. I vote with my wallet, and guess what, you're not even on the ballot any longer. The people who I feel bad for are your employees. You did them no favors. The news of this decision has spread so far and wide on social media, you'll never get past it. Power to the Pro2A people.
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publicly:
Dismantle/Denounce IMFA Fire the lobbyist responsible Donate $500,000 to both NRA and ISRA to help fight to maintain our 2A rights. At least these are better then rhetoric published today.
I will support you they way you support me. Karma and all that. ....my line is in the sand and it's been crossed. |
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It appears people were paid to get them the carve out. Paying a person to do it makes
them just as guilty. This is not the strawman issue they are trying to make it out to be. |
Let us never forget, government has no resources of its own. Government can only give to us what it has previously taken from us.
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How can they be responsible for a group that they employ to serve their interests?
They totally didn't know. 
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If you're born without privilege and grow up without obstacles, and work with bad gear, and vacation in a crowded thermo-regulated-room, then chugging up into the open with nothing but sky over you might just give you penalties.
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Originally Posted By ludder093:
We got caught so it's the lobbyists fault! Notice they didn't fire them for this. https://img-comment-fun.9cache.com/media/aNoZ440/aEkzQePp_700wa_0.gif Originally Posted By ludder093:
For immediate release: May 1, 2017Rock River Arms, Inc.® (RRA) wants to assure the Illinois (and national) firearms community that we are
still 100 percent opposed to the Gun Dealer Licensing Act - SB1657, the house version of the same bill, and any potential final legislation that may come from those bills along with any other infringements on the gun rights of law-abiding citizens everywhere. For more than twenty years, Rock River Arms and Springfield Armory have actively opposed gun control legislation at the local, state, and federal levels. In 2009, we partnered with other manufacturers to form an organization geared towards representing our interests - The Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA). Historically, that organization has done well in representing us in Springfield, Illinois. We had no reason to believe that it was doing anything beyond representing the firearms community’s (Illinois firearms manufacturers, dealers and gun owners) best interests, keeping us well-informed on relevant legislation and issues, acting on our behalf. In the case of SB1657, there was a disconnect and that representation was misguided. While we do believe that IFMA acted in what it felt was the best interests of its members, we were as shocked as everyone else to find ourselves exempted from provisions of SB1657 and that IFMA was no longer opposing that bill, even though RRA still opposed it. Again, Rock River Arms wants to emphasize (regardless of anything that may have been said or done, mistakenly or otherwise, by any other party on our behalf) its continued total opposition to SB1657, the Illinois House version of the bill and any final legislation that may emerge. This includes any provisions found in Gun Dealer Licensing Act SB1657, along with any other threats that may infringe upon our gun rights. If you have any further questions or require more information about our position, please contact: Sarah Larson, General Manager or Steve Mayer, LE, Government, and International Sales Manager at 309-792-5780. Thank you. Chuck Larson President/Owner Rock River Arms, Inc https://img-comment-fun.9cache.com/media/aNoZ440/aEkzQePp_700wa_0.gif 
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Originally Posted By my2Dogs:
well I bought a RRA 9mm 1911 am I supposed to chop it up now? this was about 3 years ago? I will wait and see what happens, but honestly I have not purchased a RRA product in years as there are better options. I had 7 RRA lowers I bought in 2003, My buddy has my last one and will still make a great rifle out of it with parts other than RRA. Really sad day that a company wouldn't do everything in its power to look out for its client base. |
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- Thomas Jefferson
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If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so.
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Our statement is available from the home page of our web site, www.rockriverarms.com.
It reads: For immediate release: May 1, 2017 Rock River Arms< inc (RRA) wants to assure the Illinois (and national) firearms community that we are still 100 percent opposed ot the Gun dealer Licensing Act-SB1657, the house version of the same bill, and any potential final legislation that may come from those bills along with any other infringements on th egun rights of law-abiding citizens everywhere. For more than twenty years, Rock River Arms and Springfield Armory have actively opposed gun control legislation at the local, state, and federal levels. In 2009, we partnered with other manufacturers to form an organization geared towards representing our interests-The Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA). Historically, that organization has done well in representing us in Springfield, Illinois. We had no reason to believe that it was doing anything beyond representing the firearms community's (Illinois firearms manufacturers, dealers, and gun owners) bet interests, keeping us we;;-informed on relevant legislation and issues, acting on our behalf. In the case of SB1657, there was a disconnect and that representation was misguided. While we do believe that IFMA acted in what it felt was the best interests of its members, we were as shocked as everyone else to find ourselves exempted from provisions of SB1657 and that IFMA was no longer opposing that bill even though RRA still opposed it. Again, Rock River Arms wants to emphasize (regardless of anything that may have been said or done, mistakenly or otherwise, by any other party on our behalf) its continued total opposition to SB1657, the Illinois House version of the same bill and any final legislation that may emrge. This includes any provisions found in Gun dealer Licensing Act SB1657, along with any other threats that may infringe upon our gun rights. If you have any further questions or require more information about our position, please contact: Sarah Larson, General manager or Steve Mayer, LE, Government, and International Sales Manager at 309-792-5780. Thank you. Chuck Larson President/Owner Rock River Arms, Inc. I'm the Steve mentioned as one of the POCs on this. If you have questions or want additional information, please call me. Thanks. Steve/RRA |
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Originally Posted By RRAMODERATOR:
Our statement is available from the home page of our web site, www.rockriverarms.com. It reads: For immediate release: May 1, 2017 Rock River Arms< inc (RRA) wants to assure the Illinois (and national) firearms community that we are still 100 percent opposed ot the Gun dealer Licensing Act-SB1657, the house version of the same bill, and any potential final legislation that may come from those bills along with any other infringements on th egun rights of law-abiding citizens everywhere. For more than twenty years, Rock River Arms and Springfield Armory have actively opposed gun control legislation at the local, state, and federal levels. In 2009, we partnered with other manufacturers to form an organization geared towards representing our interests-The Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA). Historically, that organization has done well in representing us in Springfield, Illinois. We had no reason to believe that it was doing anything beyond representing the firearms community's (Illinois firearms manufacturers, dealers, and gun owners) bet interests, keeping us we;;-informed on relevant legislation and issues, acting on our behalf. In the case of SB1657, there was a disconnect and that representation was misguided. While we do believe that IFMA acted in what it felt was the best interests of its members, we were as shocked as everyone else to find ourselves exempted from provisions of SB1657 and that IFMA was no longer opposing that bill even though RRA still opposed it. Again, Rock River Arms wants to emphasize (regardless of anything that may have been said or done, mistakenly or otherwise, by any other party on our behalf) its continued total opposition to SB1657, the Illinois House version of the same bill and any final legislation that may emrge. This includes any provisions found in Gun dealer Licensing Act SB1657, along with any other threats that may infringe upon our gun rights. If you have any further questions or require more information about our position, please contact: Sarah Larson, General manager or Steve Mayer, LE, Government, and International Sales Manager at 309-792-5780. Thank you. Chuck Larson President/Owner Rock River Arms, Inc. I'm the Steve mentioned as one of the POCs on this. If you have questions or want additional information, please call me. Thanks. Steve/RRA I find it hard to believe that they acted without input from RRA and SA on something like that, but burning them down would go a long way towards regaining some credibility. |
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Originally Posted By RRAMODERATOR:
Our statement is available from the home page of our web site, www.rockriverarms.com. It reads: For immediate release: May 1, 2017 Rock River Arms< inc (RRA) wants to assure the Illinois (and national) firearms community that we are still 100 percent opposed ot the Gun dealer Licensing Act-SB1657, the house version of the same bill, and any potential final legislation that may come from those bills along with any other infringements on th egun rights of law-abiding citizens everywhere. For more than twenty years, Rock River Arms and Springfield Armory have actively opposed gun control legislation at the local, state, and federal levels. In 2009, we partnered with other manufacturers to form an organization geared towards representing our interests-The Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA). Historically, that organization has done well in representing us in Springfield, Illinois. We had no reason to believe that it was doing anything beyond representing the firearms community's (Illinois firearms manufacturers, dealers, and gun owners) bet interests, keeping us we;;-informed on relevant legislation and issues, acting on our behalf. In the case of SB1657, there was a disconnect and that representation was misguided. While we do believe that IFMA acted in what it felt was the best interests of its members, we were as shocked as everyone else to find ourselves exempted from provisions of SB1657 and that IFMA was no longer opposing that bill even though RRA still opposed it. Again, Rock River Arms wants to emphasize (regardless of anything that may have been said or done, mistakenly or otherwise, by any other party on our behalf) its continued total opposition to SB1657, the Illinois House version of the same bill and any final legislation that may emrge. This includes any provisions found in Gun dealer Licensing Act SB1657, along with any other threats that may infringe upon our gun rights. If you have any further questions or require more information about our position, please contact: Sarah Larson, General manager or Steve Mayer, LE, Government, and International Sales Manager at 309-792-5780. Thank you. Chuck Larson President/Owner Rock River Arms, Inc. I'm the Steve mentioned as one of the POCs on this. If you have questions or want additional information, please call me. Thanks. Steve/RRA about this. You are one of the biggest supporters of this lobby and were kept in the dark? It is real easy to say you are opposed to this. Put your money where your mouth is and pull out of the carve out and get on the same ground as the rest of your competitors that were left in your deliberate or careless wake. |
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Originally Posted By RRAMODERATOR:
Our statement is available from the home page of our web site, www.rockriverarms.com. It reads: For immediate release: May 1, 2017 Rock River Arms< inc (RRA) wants to assure the Illinois (and national) firearms community that we are still 100 percent opposed ot the Gun dealer Licensing Act-SB1657, the house version of the same bill, and any potential final legislation that may come from those bills along with any other infringements on th egun rights of law-abiding citizens everywhere. For more than twenty years, Rock River Arms and Springfield Armory have actively opposed gun control legislation at the local, state, and federal levels. In 2009, we partnered with other manufacturers to form an organization geared towards representing our interests-The Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA). Historically, that organization has done well in representing us in Springfield, Illinois. We had no reason to believe that it was doing anything beyond representing the firearms community's (Illinois firearms manufacturers, dealers, and gun owners) bet interests, keeping us we;;-informed on relevant legislation and issues, acting on our behalf. In the case of SB1657, there was a disconnect and that representation was misguided. While we do believe that IFMA acted in what it felt was the best interests of its members, we were as shocked as everyone else to find ourselves exempted from provisions of SB1657 and that IFMA was no longer opposing that bill even though RRA still opposed it. Again, Rock River Arms wants to emphasize (regardless of anything that may have been said or done, mistakenly or otherwise, by any other party on our behalf) its continued total opposition to SB1657, the Illinois House version of the same bill and any final legislation that may emrge. This includes any provisions found in Gun dealer Licensing Act SB1657, along with any other threats that may infringe upon our gun rights. If you have any further questions or require more information about our position, please contact: Sarah Larson, General manager or Steve Mayer, LE, Government, and International Sales Manager at 309-792-5780. Thank you. Chuck Larson President/Owner Rock River Arms, Inc. I'm the Steve mentioned as one of the POCs on this. If you have questions or want additional information, please call me. Thanks. Steve/RRA |
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That's it..?. A statement? What action is being taken? Talk is cheap....
I am speechless. If I owned a company and had a fubar like that I would be taking action and letting my customers know what actions I am taking to fix the issue, and what actions I am taking to prevent the issue from happening again...etc... Transparency, man... Man... You guys FUBARD... Unreal.... GOOD LUCK... Your gonna need it. |
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Originally Posted By RRAMODERATOR:
Our statement is available from the home page of our web site, www.rockriverarms.com. It reads: For immediate release: May 1, 2017 Rock River Arms< inc (RRA) wants to assure the Illinois (and national) firearms community that we are still 100 percent opposed ot the Gun dealer Licensing Act-SB1657, the house version of the same bill, and any potential final legislation that may come from those bills along with any other infringements on th egun rights of law-abiding citizens everywhere. For more than twenty years, Rock River Arms and Springfield Armory have actively opposed gun control legislation at the local, state, and federal levels. In 2009, we partnered with other manufacturers to form an organization geared towards representing our interests-The Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA). Historically, that organization has done well in representing us in Springfield, Illinois. We had no reason to believe that it was doing anything beyond representing the firearms community's (Illinois firearms manufacturers, dealers, and gun owners) bet interests, keeping us we;;-informed on relevant legislation and issues, acting on our behalf. In the case of SB1657, there was a disconnect and that representation was misguided. While we do believe that IFMA acted in what it felt was the best interests of its members, we were as shocked as everyone else to find ourselves exempted from provisions of SB1657 and that IFMA was no longer opposing that bill even though RRA still opposed it. Again, Rock River Arms wants to emphasize (regardless of anything that may have been said or done, mistakenly or otherwise, by any other party on our behalf) its continued total opposition to SB1657, the Illinois House version of the same bill and any final legislation that may emrge. This includes any provisions found in Gun dealer Licensing Act SB1657, along with any other threats that may infringe upon our gun rights. If you have any further questions or require more information about our position, please contact: Sarah Larson, General manager or Steve Mayer, LE, Government, and International Sales Manager at 309-792-5780. Thank you. Chuck Larson President/Owner Rock River Arms, Inc. I'm the Steve mentioned as one of the POCs on this. If you have questions or want additional information, please call me. Thanks. Steve/RRA This was a huge mistake in judgement and I don't think it's going to go well for either company. |
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Originally Posted By RRAMODERATOR:
Our statement is available from the home page of our web site, www.rockriverarms.com. It reads: For immediate release: May 1, 2017 Rock River Arms< inc (RRA) wants to assure the Illinois (and national) firearms community that we are still 100 percent opposed ot the Gun dealer Licensing Act-SB1657, the house version of the same bill, and any potential final legislation that may come from those bills along with any other infringements on th egun rights of law-abiding citizens everywhere. For more than twenty years, Rock River Arms and Springfield Armory have actively opposed gun control legislation at the local, state, and federal levels. In 2009, we partnered with other manufacturers to form an organization geared towards representing our interests-The Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA). Historically, that organization has done well in representing us in Springfield, Illinois. We had no reason to believe that it was doing anything beyond representing the firearms community's (Illinois firearms manufacturers, dealers, and gun owners) bet interests, keeping us we;;-informed on relevant legislation and issues, acting on our behalf. In the case of SB1657, there was a disconnect and that representation was misguided. While we do believe that IFMA acted in what it felt was the best interests of its members, we were as shocked as everyone else to find ourselves exempted from provisions of SB1657 and that IFMA was no longer opposing that bill even though RRA still opposed it. Again, Rock River Arms wants to emphasize (regardless of anything that may have been said or done, mistakenly or otherwise, by any other party on our behalf) its continued total opposition to SB1657, the Illinois House version of the same bill and any final legislation that may emrge. This includes any provisions found in Gun dealer Licensing Act SB1657, along with any other threats that may infringe upon our gun rights. If you have any further questions or require more information about our position, please contact: Sarah Larson, General manager or Steve Mayer, LE, Government, and International Sales Manager at 309-792-5780. Thank you. Chuck Larson President/Owner Rock River Arms, Inc. I'm the Steve mentioned as one of the POCs on this. If you have questions or want additional information, please call me. Thanks. Steve/RRA Your statement sounds like it was written by FHRC reps. Can someone? point me in another direction for a 6.5 CM AR? |
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Originally Posted By RRAMODERATOR:
Our statement is available from the home page of our web site, www.rockriverarms.com. It reads: For immediate release: May 1, 2017 Rock River Arms< inc (RRA) wants to assure the Illinois (and national) firearms community that we are still 100 percent opposed ot the Gun dealer Licensing Act-SB1657, the house version of the same bill, and any potential final legislation that may come from those bills along with any other infringements on th egun rights of law-abiding citizens everywhere. For more than twenty years, Rock River Arms and Springfield Armory have actively opposed gun control legislation at the local, state, and federal levels. In 2009, we partnered with other manufacturers to form an organization geared towards representing our interests-The Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA). Historically, that organization has done well in representing us in Springfield, Illinois. We had no reason to believe that it was doing anything beyond representing the firearms community's (Illinois firearms manufacturers, dealers, and gun owners) bet interests, keeping us we;;-informed on relevant legislation and issues, acting on our behalf. In the case of SB1657, there was a disconnect and that representation was misguided. While we do believe that IFMA acted in what it felt was the best interests of its members, we were as shocked as everyone else to find ourselves exempted from provisions of SB1657 and that IFMA was no longer opposing that bill even though RRA still opposed it. Again, Rock River Arms wants to emphasize (regardless of anything that may have been said or done, mistakenly or otherwise, by any other party on our behalf) its continued total opposition to SB1657, the Illinois House version of the same bill and any final legislation that may emrge. This includes any provisions found in Gun dealer Licensing Act SB1657, along with any other threats that may infringe upon our gun rights. If you have any further questions or require more information about our position, please contact: Sarah Larson, General manager or Steve Mayer, LE, Government, and International Sales Manager at 309-792-5780. Thank you. Chuck Larson President/Owner Rock River Arms, Inc. I'm the Steve mentioned as one of the POCs on this. If you have questions or want additional information, please call me. Thanks. Steve/RRA |
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Originally Posted By RRAMODERATOR:
Our statement is available from the home page of our web site, www.rockriverarms.com. It reads: For immediate release: May 1, 2017 Rock River Arms< inc (RRA) wants to assure the Illinois (and national) firearms community that we are still 100 percent opposed ot the Gun dealer Licensing Act-SB1657, the house version of the same bill, and any potential final legislation that may come from those bills along with any other infringements on th egun rights of law-abiding citizens everywhere. For more than twenty years, Rock River Arms and Springfield Armory have actively opposed gun control legislation at the local, state, and federal levels. In 2009, we partnered with other manufacturers to form an organization geared towards representing our interests-The Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA). Historically, that organization has done well in representing us in Springfield, Illinois. We had no reason to believe that it was doing anything beyond representing the firearms community's (Illinois firearms manufacturers, dealers, and gun owners) bet interests, keeping us we;;-informed on relevant legislation and issues, acting on our behalf. In the case of SB1657, there was a disconnect and that representation was misguided. While we do believe that IFMA acted in what it felt was the best interests of its members, we were as shocked as everyone else to find ourselves exempted from provisions of SB1657 and that IFMA was no longer opposing that bill even though RRA still opposed it. Again, Rock River Arms wants to emphasize (regardless of anything that may have been said or done, mistakenly or otherwise, by any other party on our behalf) its continued total opposition to SB1657, the Illinois House version of the same bill and any final legislation that may emrge. This includes any provisions found in Gun dealer Licensing Act SB1657, along with any other threats that may infringe upon our gun rights. If you have any further questions or require more information about our position, please contact: Sarah Larson, General manager or Steve Mayer, LE, Government, and International Sales Manager at 309-792-5780. Thank you. Chuck Larson President/Owner Rock River Arms, Inc. I'm the Steve mentioned as one of the POCs on this. If you have questions or want additional information, please call me. Thanks. Steve/RRA I'm done with your products. I will actively steer new shooters away from RRA and SA. I'm just an average, middle class guy who loves to shoot. I'm tired of being shit on and sold out by politicians and companies who are supposed to have my interests at heart. Time to start holding you people accountable. |
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Did I read that statement right? Their paid lobbiest represented the opposing interest as the client? Like in this analogy:
A person is arrested for a crime they didn't commit Hires a high dollar lawyer Out on bail for months while both sides work the case Pays lawyer the whole time while ignoring every detail of case's progress Goes to court, person's high dollar lawyer says "mutherfucker is guilty, put him in jail" Like that? Really? |
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Originally Posted By HomeSlice:
Did I read that statement right? Their paid lobbiest represented the opposing interest as the client? Like in this analogy: now they pay the price |
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How did you do the impossible and get a press release out, Steveo? Remember the people out of the office, time-zone conundrums and the impossible logistics? 
The World Wide Web will see that you're hoisted upon your own petard. Greed & Pride go before a fall. Idiots. 
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Originally Posted By BUCK1911:
I don't believe you. Your statement sounds like it was written by FHRC reps. Can someone? point me in another direction for a 6.5 CM AR? I know... that's minuscule compared to the overall issue here, but I think it continues to demonstrate poor judgment. |
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That apology is nice and all... except it's total crap.
RRA and Springfield control IFMA. IFMA has one employee that does the bidding of RRA and Springfield. (h/t Stascom) 
(h/t Evintos) Originally Posted By Evintos: https://www.opensecrets.org/527s/527cmtedetail_donors.php?ein=464628447&cycle=2016 $50,000 Rock River Arms Colona IL 05/31/2016 $50,000 Springfield Armory Geneseo IL 05/31/2016 $50,000 Rock River Arms Colona IL 06/05/2015 $50,000 Springfield Armory Geneseo IL 05/25/2015 Since 2014, both companies donated $50k annually into the IFMA and the best they can do is a damage control statement? What a load of crap. $150k from each company into the organization (to date) and they aren't aware of the organization's actions? Not buying it. Originally Posted By Evintos:
https://forms.irs.gov/app/pod/basicSearch/search?execution=e5s3&pacid=50494 https://forms.irs.gov/app/pod/basicSearch/search?_eventId_displayForm=true&formId=464628447-990POL-02&formtype=p990&execution=e5s3 Dennis Reese - Director Tom Reese - Director Jay Keller - Executive Director Chuck Larson - Director (edited to add: if the links stop working the IRS Employer Identification Number (EIN) is: #46-4628447, Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association, Form 990 has listed key employees) |
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They claim they did not know what IFMA was doing?Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Ken914:
That apology is nice and all... except it's total crap. RRA and Springfield control IFMA. IFMA has one employee that does the bidding of RRA and Springfield. (h/t Stascom) http://i.imgur.com/kwVWwN2.jpg (h/t Evintos) |
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