Very important on why not to support RRA anymore (Page 2 of 8)
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Originally Posted By jhereg:
Only if they want our business, or if they think it will make a difference. They may think keeping quiet and letting it blow over is the safest answer. |
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Originally Posted By Azygos:
That may be like riding out an F5 tornado in a bathtub. Originally Posted By Azygos:
Originally Posted By jhereg:
Only if they want our business, or if they think it will make a difference. They may think keeping quiet and letting it blow over is the safest answer. |
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Originally Posted By Drugmanrx:
A RRA was my first AR. I wanted to support an in state company thinking they would have my back from the gun grabbers... Et tu, Brute? 
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Originally Posted By AZPLINKER:
Wow that's gotta suck for Legal-Transfers on the exchange .Talk about having all your eggs in one basket or a good portion at least . 
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Originally Posted By GAhunter95:
Someone asked at the NRA show.... (copied from the thread in GD) Originally Posted By GAhunter95:
Someone asked at the NRA show.... (copied from the thread in GD) Originally Posted By Photosarv:
Just talked to the owner of RRA. HE UNEQUIVOCABLY STATED THAT THEY OPPOSE THIS BILL. Seems like there is some other behind the scenes BS happening with some people that I won't go into. Chuck RRA owner said that he will be publishing the companies position and clarification soon. At this point I think we are only getting half the story. . |
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Dear Rock River Arms,
I own one of your rifles. It works great. Never had a problem. But now I'm disappointed with you as a company. I'm not mad. Just extremely disappointed. Like your dad gets when you leave his tools in the driveway to get rusty. Or when you bend the crankshaft on his mower hitting the stump he already told you to stay away from. Disappointed is worse than mad, because you should have known better. Dad always said, (in German) "you run with them, you sing with them, you hang with them". Your silence speaks volumes. You should be ashamed of yourself. |
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Originally Posted By thezentree:
I bought my first rifle from him. Sad to see RRA involved in this. I hope the rumor that their lobbyist did this without RRA's involvement is true. Originally Posted By thezentree:
Originally Posted By AZPLINKER:
Wow that's gotta suck for Legal-Transfers on the exchange .Talk about having all your eggs in one basket or a good portion at least . The silence is deafening. |
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As an Illinois resident I greatly appreciate the support being shown for us by all American 2A supporters. Let's be clear, this was no mistake or misunderstanding, RRA wanted the carve out and they sold Illinois gun owners out for 30 pieces of silver. I look forward to watching RRA die a painful death as a company, and I hope it is a quick one. As long as I can and as long as RRA exists as a company, I will remind anyone and everyone of this betrayal. They are worse than the gun-grabbers because they pretended to be on our side, but they made a deal with Madigan and Cullerton counting on the fact that we were all too stupid to notice. Guess what RRA?
Also, to anyone RRA defenders, they are 100% aware of what is going on, I spoke to a lady in their office on Friday afternoon about 2:00pm CST and they were aware of the situation then. They are hoping this will blow over and they can spin it as a mistake or misunderstanding. |
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From what I've read, evidence points to SAs guilt, but RRA is up in the air at the moment.
They need to issue a statement. |
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Originally Posted By ban-hater:
With the current political climate I don't understand their descision I guess. Waiting for an explanation before anymore purchases. |
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I had RR on my list I was narrowing down for a 6.5CM AR and it is now scratched from that list.
And I was hoping to pick up an XDm and that is now off the list as well. They need to get hammered to set an example for the rest that this behavior won't be tolerated. |
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From the other thread:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1988839_Springfield-and-RRA-make-a-deal-with-gun-banners-in-IL-.html&page=11#i65843951 Originally Posted By Miami_JBT:
RRA was truly in disbelief. When I spoke to them they were pretty much going "WTF  the lobbying group did WHAT?!?!?"
I honestly believe the RRA might have been played in this. |
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Originally Posted By handyandy:
As an Illinois resident I greatly appreciate the support being shown for us by all American 2A supporters. Let's be clear, this was no mistake or misunderstanding, RRA wanted the carve out and they sold Illinois gun owners out for 30 pieces of silver. I look forward to watching RRA die a painful death as a company, and I hope it is a quick one. As long as I can and as long as RRA exists as a company, I will remind anyone and everyone of this betrayal. They are worse than the gun-grabbers because they pretended to be on our side, but they made a deal with Madigan and Cullerton counting on the fact that we were all too stupid to notice. Guess what RRA? Also, to anyone RRA defenders, they are 100% aware of what is going on, I spoke to a lady in their office on Friday afternoon about 2:00pm CST and they were aware of the situation then. They are hoping this will blow over and they can spin it as a mistake or misunderstanding. |
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| My first two ARs were RRA. I've supported them and recommended them to my friends who shoot. Never again, they are dead to me now. Getting fucked by a hometown business that I've gone out of my way to support is a huge fuck you to me and all the people who have supported them. I want to see them bankrupted now. Sellouts. |
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Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
From the other thread: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1988839_Springfield-and-RRA-make-a-deal-with-gun-banners-in-IL-.html&page=11#i65843951 Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
From the other thread: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1988839_Springfield-and-RRA-make-a-deal-with-gun-banners-in-IL-.html&page=11#i65843951 Originally Posted By Miami_JBT:
RRA was truly in disbelief. When I spoke to them they were pretty much going "WTF the lobbying group did WHAT?!?!?"
I honestly believe the RRA might have been played in this. Why? |
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| Just like RRA threw the citizens and Dealers under the bus, they acre going to try and throw their lobbyist under the bus. Robski from AK4774 union showed where RRA helped fund the push for the bill for special exemption. RRA CEO knew exactly what was going on with his consent. |
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RRA's owner is at NRAAM in Atlanta, where he is meeting with a number of people about this. While many of the necessary people are in Atlanta, some are not which is complicating things.
RRA has been opposed to this bill (and earlier bills prior to it for more than a decade) and is still in 100% opposition to it. Both our exemption and the change in our lobbyist's position from "opposed" to "no position" were surprises to us. We found out after many of you, and have been trying to make sense of it since. A statement will be forthcoming as soon as it is possible to make one that is accurate and complete. It may still come out today. Thank you all for your consideration and to the many who have been willing to give us the benefit of the doubt. Steve/RRA |
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I've used RRA as a parts source for a long time. I was looking at their website just a few days ago for parts for a new project.
Now the project is on hold. I know my piddling purchase means very little to you guys, but when I stop doing business with a company it is forever. I may actively work to help other purchasers make informed decisions, depending on the next move on your part. |
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Originally Posted By RRAMODERATOR:
RRA's owner is at NRAAM in Atlanta, where he is meeting with a number of people about this. While many of the necessary people are in Atlanta, some are not which is complicating things. RRA has been opposed to this bill (and earlier bills prior to it for more than a decade) and is still in 100% opposition to it. Both our exemption and the change in our lobbyist's position from "opposed" to "no position" were surprises to us. We found out after many of you, and have been trying to make sense of it since. A statement will be forthcoming as soon as it is possible to make one that is accurate and complete. It may still come out today. Thank you all for your consideration and to the many who have been willing to give us the benefit of the doubt. Steve/RRA |
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Originally Posted By akethan:
Too late Originally Posted By akethan:
Originally Posted By RRAMODERATOR:
RRA's owner is at NRAAM in Atlanta, where he is meeting with a number of people about this. While many of the necessary people are in Atlanta, some are not which is complicating things. RRA has been opposed to this bill (and earlier bills prior to it for more than a decade) and is still in 100% opposition to it. Both our exemption and the change in our lobbyist's position from "opposed" to "no position" were surprises to us. We found out after many of you, and have been trying to make sense of it since. A statement will be forthcoming as soon as it is possible to make one that is accurate and complete. It may still come out today. Thank you all for your consideration and to the many who have been willing to give us the benefit of the doubt. Steve/RRA this. That seems like a BS excuse to me. |
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Originally Posted By RRAMODERATOR:
RRA's owner is at NRAAM in Atlanta, where he is meeting with a number of people about this. While many of the necessary people are in Atlanta, some are not which is complicating things. RRA has been opposed to this bill (and earlier bills prior to it for more than a decade) and is still in 100% opposition to it. Both our exemption and the change in our lobbyist's position from "opposed" to "no position" were surprises to us. We found out after many of you, and have been trying to make sense of it since. A statement will be forthcoming as soon as it is possible to make one that is accurate and complete. It may still come out today. Thank you all for your consideration and to the many who have been willing to give us the benefit of the doubt. Steve/RRA 
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Originally Posted By BUCK1911:
I don't believe you. Originally Posted By BUCK1911:
Originally Posted By RRAMODERATOR:
RRA's owner is at NRAAM in Atlanta, where he is meeting with a number of people about this. While many of the necessary people are in Atlanta, some are not which is complicating things. RRA has been opposed to this bill (and earlier bills prior to it for more than a decade) and is still in 100% opposition to it. Both our exemption and the change in our lobbyist's position from "opposed" to "no position" were surprises to us. We found out after many of you, and have been trying to make sense of it since. A statement will be forthcoming as soon as it is possible to make one that is accurate and complete. It may still come out today. Thank you all for your consideration and to the many who have been willing to give us the benefit of the doubt. Steve/RRA |
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Originally Posted By Kopterdoctor:
Many here don't. It shouldn't take this long to put a spin on a story. This dumpster fire is going to be pretty hard to put out if you keep letting it gain fuel. Originally Posted By Kopterdoctor:
Originally Posted By BUCK1911:
Originally Posted By RRAMODERATOR:
RRA's owner is at NRAAM in Atlanta, where he is meeting with a number of people about this. While many of the necessary people are in Atlanta, some are not which is complicating things. RRA has been opposed to this bill (and earlier bills prior to it for more than a decade) and is still in 100% opposition to it. Both our exemption and the change in our lobbyist's position from "opposed" to "no position" were surprises to us. We found out after many of you, and have been trying to make sense of it since. A statement will be forthcoming as soon as it is possible to make one that is accurate and complete. It may still come out today. Thank you all for your consideration and to the many who have been willing to give us the benefit of the doubt. Steve/RRA |
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Originally Posted By BUCK1911:
I don't believe you. Originally Posted By BUCK1911:
Originally Posted By RRAMODERATOR:
RRA's owner is at NRAAM in Atlanta, where he is meeting with a number of people about this. While many of the necessary people are in Atlanta, some are not which is complicating things. RRA has been opposed to this bill (and earlier bills prior to it for more than a decade) and is still in 100% opposition to it. Both our exemption and the change in our lobbyist's position from "opposed" to "no position" were surprises to us. We found out after many of you, and have been trying to make sense of it since. A statement will be forthcoming as soon as it is possible to make one that is accurate and complete. It may still come out today. Thank you all for your consideration and to the many who have been willing to give us the benefit of the doubt. Steve/RRA what happened? Reminds me of this  Fun with Dick and Jane - Stuttering Statistics |
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