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4/28/2017 8:12:04 PM EDT
It seems that both RRA and Springfield Armory colluded with government officials in Illinois to help push more gun control laws for special favor full article is here:


http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2017/04/john-boch/springfield-armory-rock-river-arms-trade-opposition-to-illinois-ffl-licensing-scheme-for-carve-out/
4/28/2017 10:53:49 PM EDT
[#1]
Waiting for a reply RRA...


Why?
4/29/2017 12:42:01 AM EDT
[#2]
Ball is in your court RRA.............better start talking.
4/29/2017 12:43:26 AM EDT
[#3]
tagged for RRA's response..
A socialist may indeed be academically superior.
And yet, they are most certainly emotionally retarded.

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Public education is the opiate of the masses.

4/29/2017 1:33:03 AM EDT
[#4]
In.
We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm.

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4/29/2017 1:44:51 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Capt_Destro][Edited] [#5]
@RRAMODERATOR

I always recommended your products to friends and coworkers. Always thought you were a stand up/innovative company as well. I remember meeting one of your reps at a hunting/outdoor show in Yorkville IL and I was impressed.

But now I am just very disappointed at your stance on the matter.  I know you are part of this organization and it is not your official response.

I will reserve judgment until the official response is given. But I am sad to see you as a party of this none the less.

I was saving up for one of your LAR piston carbines but now I feel as if I'll be spending that money elsewhere unless this whole ordeal is cleared up.

If this goes south I'll have to tell mentioned friends and family about your competition that respects the 2nd Amendment.

I'm pretty sure certain departments wouldn't mind dumping their RRA rifles for DSA.

@ mods, I'm not trying to do a call out, but I do want to make my voice heard.
4/29/2017 9:15:12 AM EDT
[#6]
Hope you aren't holding your breath for an answer.
4/29/2017 9:21:21 AM EDT
[#7]
If memory serves me right they also did a contract with the NYSP Post-SAFE Act. They also won't ship anything to NY gun shops, even compliant barrels, BCG, FCG. They are dead to me.
Elections Have Consequences!
4/29/2017 9:41:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: lazyengineer][Edited] [#8]
I look forward to the rest of the details and RRA reply (be it in this thread or any other announcement method) during business hours and sufficient response time is given, before passing judgement.

Though I will gently remind, that a lack of a reply, is a reply.
4/29/2017 9:45:54 AM EDT
[#9]
In
4/29/2017 9:46:33 AM EDT
[#10]
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Originally Posted By lazyengineer:

Though I will gently remind, that a lack of a reply, is a reply.
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Very well said
4/29/2017 9:48:09 AM EDT
[#11]
Really? Dang.
She thinks all men should look like a hulking centaur 'roid bear. -Andrew_Henry
4/29/2017 9:52:09 AM EDT
[#12]
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Originally Posted By lazyengineer:
I look forward to the rest of the details and RRA reply (be it in this thread or any other announcement method) during business hours and sufficient response time is given, before passing judgement.

Though I will gently remind, that a lack of a reply, is a reply.
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 I won't be holding my breath...
"Some people have issues. Sounds like he signed up for an entire subscription." ~Brohawk
Proud member of Team Ranstad.

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4/29/2017 10:29:06 AM EDT
[#13]
Dissapointing. Self preservation over the collective good is the wrong move in my opinion.

I won't support companies that smile at my face while stabbing me in the back.
4/29/2017 11:48:53 AM EDT
[#14]
It passed by 1 vote.

RRA, you'd better have a good explanation or you can look to enjoying the 1990s S&W treatment.

Awaiting a response.
4/29/2017 12:42:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Sputnik556][Edited] [#15]
I don't at all expect a response.
If you aren't representing Jesus in a way that makes people want to hang out with you, you're doing it wrong.
4/29/2017 12:55:39 PM EDT
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4/29/2017 1:27:33 PM EDT
[#17]
I was looking at another stripped upper from you guys but now I'm not so sure.
4/29/2017 1:53:02 PM EDT
[#18]
Mods need to lock this thread,, everyone knows RRA is probably already bankrupt with their failing business,,, go after the company that could actually hurt sales (Springfield Armory) I dont think their are any sales in RRA to take away from.
4/29/2017 2:43:43 PM EDT
[#19]
Interesting indeed.

I believe they (RRA / Springfield) are at the NRA convention right now.  I doubt they are looking at the forum much right now.  The show runs through Sunday.

The article shows they donated to the IFMA in 2014.  Anything since then?  What was the IFMA lobbying for in 2014?  This?  (I have no idea how lobbying really works, so I don't know if 3 years is what it takes for a bill, or if 3 years would be ancient history.)  

Tagging for an answer.
Get involved with your local ranges and HTF events.
Range time >> post count.
4/29/2017 2:46:31 PM EDT
[#20]
SA and RRA will not be getting my money anymore.  I have 3 rifles/uppers and ton of the triggers.  Very disappointing that traitors still are among us.  
From flesh to steel and blood to blade I fight to exist... A rival of justice, extreme rush of hatred... Survival in a twisted world where nothing is sacred.
4/29/2017 2:46:38 PM EDT
[#21]
Now I really hate my XD
4/29/2017 2:48:41 PM EDT
[#22]
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4/29/2017 2:54:11 PM EDT
[#23]
Someone asked at the NRA show.... (copied from the thread in GD)


Originally Posted By Photosarv:
Just talked to the owner of RRA.

HE UNEQUIVOCABLY STATED THAT THEY OPPOSE THIS BILL.

Seems like there is some other behind the scenes BS happening with some people that I won't go into. Chuck RRA owner said that he will be publishing the companies position and clarification soon.

At this point I think we are only getting half the story. .
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Get involved with your local ranges and HTF events.
Range time >> post count.
4/29/2017 3:01:51 PM EDT
[#24]
I bet the owner is probably biding time so he can concoct a lie to tell those of us in the community for their bad mistakes, but I am willing to hear them out.
4/29/2017 3:15:27 PM EDT
[#25]
Not good enough.  If you even get a whiff of your company's name being tied to something like this you better get a press release out immediately explaining the situation.  My 2 RRA lowers will be sold and there will be no future purchases.
4/29/2017 3:22:33 PM EDT
[#26]
wow, very disappointing.  
If I had arms I could kill myself. If I had legs I could run away.
4/29/2017 3:57:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By HiramRanger:
If memory serves me right they also did a contract with the NYSP Post-SAFE Act. They also won't ship anything to NY gun shops, even compliant barrels, BCG, FCG. They are dead to me.
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I didn't know that. They deserve to reap the whirlwind in that case.
Like fine herbs, dreams only develop their full fragrance when crushed and ground into a fine powder.
-LowBeta
4/29/2017 4:04:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Combatcanine0508][Edited] [#28]
Already posted in the other Springfield thread.

Sad just sad.

Wonder what they and Springfield  where telling everyone at the NRA Convention and dinner that Pres Trump attended
IT IS WHAT IT IS
4/29/2017 4:08:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By army11b:
Mods need to lock this thread,, everyone knows RRA is probably already bankrupt with their failing business,,, go after the company that could actually hurt sales (Springfield Armory) I dont think their are any sales in RRA to take away from.
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I don't see many rra rifles anymore. But I do see other parts like bolt carriers triggers and stocks etc.

In fact I was considering buying one of their two stage triggers
4/29/2017 4:38:10 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By GAhunter95:
Someone asked at the NRA show.... (copied from the thread in GD)


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Originally Posted By GAhunter95:
Someone asked at the NRA show.... (copied from the thread in GD)


Originally Posted By Photosarv:
Just talked to the owner of RRA.

HE UNEQUIVOCABLY STATED THAT THEY OPPOSE THIS BILL.

Seems like there is some other behind the scenes BS happening with some people that I won't go into. Chuck RRA owner said that he will be publishing the companies position and clarification soon.

At this point I think we are only getting half the story. .
Yes, I'm sure. Just like they support NY private citizens by selling them SAFE-legal parts and by not selling to LEA that enforce the SAFE Act.

Oh, wait...
Like fine herbs, dreams only develop their full fragrance when crushed and ground into a fine powder.
-LowBeta
4/29/2017 4:45:34 PM EDT
[#31]
I propose they change their name to Sell you down the river arms.

I haven't bought any of their shit in the past, and won't be in the future. Springfield is dead to me too.

Oh and fuck the State of Illinois.
MAGA
4/29/2017 6:57:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Rooster-Cogburn:
I propose they change their name to Sell you down the river arms.

I haven't bought any of their shit in the past, and won't be in the future. Springfield is dead to me too.

Oh and fuck the State of Illinois.
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Biggest problem with this state is Chicago's Mayor/Aldermen and Cook County politicians/corrections system.
Also Madigan.

If this state had an enema it would be tolerable.

DS Arms is still good to go however
4/29/2017 6:59:20 PM EDT
[#33]
well I bought a RRA 9mm 1911 am I supposed to chop it up now?  this was about 3 years ago?


Hey R F**K you and the horse you rode in on......
4/29/2017 7:10:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By my2Dogs:
well I bought a RRA 9mm 1911 am I supposed to chop it up now?  this was about 3 years ago?


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That would not help anything as well as selling does nothing. But refraining from buying anything
new would be justice for their treachery.
Let us never forget, government has no resources of its own. Government can only give to us what it has previously taken from us.
4/29/2017 7:23:14 PM EDT
[#35]
There are too many other brands and, better options out there." You have chosen poorly."
4/29/2017 7:36:49 PM EDT
[#36]
we  need an official statement from RRA
4/29/2017 7:53:41 PM EDT
[#37]
In for RRA response.
4/29/2017 8:17:44 PM EDT
[#38]
just be aware there is a chance someone is screamimg "Witch!  She's a witch!"

Don't know.  Don't  know OP, or OP's source.  but I advise standing by for a bit, just to make sure we're not being played.  

I've been played before.
4/29/2017 8:26:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By lazyengineer:
just be aware there is a chance someone is screamimg "Witch!  She's a witch!"

Don't know.  Don't  know OP, or OP's source.  but I advise standing by for a bit, just to make sure we're not being played.  

I've been played before.
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This. Tag to see if RRA weighs the same as a duck.

Donating previously to an organization that just now sold out does not equal treachery.
NRA Patron Member
4/29/2017 8:27:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By xeeoneyx:
In for RRA response.
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The lack of a response is a tell tail sign of wrongdoing.
Let us never forget, government has no resources of its own. Government can only give to us what it has previously taken from us.
4/29/2017 8:39:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By lazyengineer:
just be aware there is a chance someone is screamimg "Witch!  She's a witch!"

Don't know.  Don't  know OP, or OP's source.  but I advise standing by for a bit, just to make sure we're not being played.  

I've been played before.
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The source is provided by the link provided.  The information has also been verified by other prominent youtube gun review personalities who showed donations for the push of more gun control.  I would say the firearm blog is considered a pretty validated source.
4/29/2017 8:45:49 PM EDT
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R.I.P. Chris Kyle
God Bless you and your family
4/29/2017 8:47:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: usa-1963][Edited] [#43]
Im very disappointed

This is NOT how to MAGA
You made your bed, now sleep in it.
4/29/2017 8:51:02 PM EDT
[#44]
To be quite honest I don't think I've seen anyone I know even buy anything from them since probably 2007. So nothing will really change for me or anyone I know.
Does Somebody Need A Hug?
4/29/2017 8:56:39 PM EDT
[#45]
I think they owe the community a statement.
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4/29/2017 9:03:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat:
I think they owe the community a statement.
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Only if they want our business, or if they think it will make a difference.  They may think keeping quiet and letting it blow over is the safest answer.
You must play the game.
You can't win.
You can't break even.
You can't quit the game.
4/29/2017 9:29:39 PM EDT
[#47]
This is inexcusable and both companies no longer exist in my eyes.
4/29/2017 9:58:52 PM EDT
[#48]
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My rights don't end where your feels begin.
4/29/2017 10:12:54 PM EDT
[#49]
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4/29/2017 10:22:01 PM EDT
[#50]
Plenty of other AR makers out there that support gun rights.

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