Originally Posted By CPshooter1:
Thinking about buying one of these, but would like to know more about the LRF functionality while in use. For the LRF, can you change the rangefinder crosshairs to a dot and can you move it to somewhere else on the screen? As I was watching Korey's videos on YouTube, I thought having the X there for the rangefinder was kind of distracting. I'm sure I could get used to it, but I'd prefer to have an uncluttered sight picture when tracking a running animal for a quick follow-up shot. I saw that there is a 1m, 5m, etc. "time out" for the X being there, but how easy is it to bring it up quickly and shut it off again? I'm hoping it's just a matter of pressing a single button to toggle it on and off.
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The LRF is turned off and on via either the menu system, or you can set a timer as you said. What I do personally, is I keep the ranging on all the time, but I turn off the range box. This is done by pressing the 2nd and 4th button at the same time. The LRF stays and continues to present readings but the blue X goes away.
As for moving the LRF box, no it is in a static position of the screen to correlate to the aiming point of the laser.
I guess I don't know how much I'd really need or use the LRF in practice. I like that the Yoter R uses two CR123 instead of four AAs and it's 8-10oz lighter.
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The LRF is heavier and it is also longer, so it can work a little better on a bolt action rifle as well as an AR because it provides better eye relief. At 28 oz, the LRF is still fairly light in comparison to other LRF units. I prefer the AA's over 2 CR123 personally due to all the choices in rechargeables. However, I use an external connection no matter what due to extreme weather I hunt. The LRF has a new and really awesome magnetic external connection. With that said, a lot of people like running the extended battery system on the Bering models that use CR123s. It allows them to use 2 16650s and is what I would use if not using an external pack. This option is not available on the LRF units.
The LRFs add more than just the LRF. The additional features include:
1) LRF: 1200 yards (My testing: 1300 yards on large objects, 1100 on small objects, and 900 yards on flat terrain)
2) Image: Increased image detail
3) Housing: Metal alloy housing (which is stronger, heavier, and about 1" longer)
4) Zoom: Increase and decrease zoom, 1-8x stepped zoom, and .5x incremental
5) Video: Improved video quality with audio
6) Buttons: 4 vs 3 with seperate power button
7) Reticles: 4 FFP, 4 SFP reticles and the ability to create your own CUSTOM reticle
8) Backgrounds: Additional target/highlight hot background
9) Profiles: 4 gun profiles and 3 distance profiles per gun
10) Battery: 4 AA batteries
11) USB: Super strong and reliable magnetic connection for power and data transfer
12) LRF: Bering can mount it on the left or right side
Since Bering doesn't seem to offer a 35mm LRF model, I can potentially save a grand as well by cross-shopping the 35mm R model with the 50mm LRF, leaving me a good chunk of change to put towards something else like an iRay RH25 for dedicated scanning and/or clip-on capability.
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Yes for most having a scanner is a game changer. I would quit nighttime hunting if someone took mine away. The RH25 definitely has a lot of uses. I personally prefer a unit designed to be great at one thing vs one that is good at many things, but that is for me personally. The
Phenom 640 is a nice option for a 640 scanner. It recently dropped in price to $2850 and is a lot of thermal for the money.
I feel like I might actually appreciate the more versatile 35mm objective lens, and at the same time, I think the LRF just makes more sense on the Yoter 50 because it has 3x magnification. I could see myself being happy with both, assuming the LRF functionality doesn't actually cause me more grief than it helps.
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You are correct that you typically see the LRF units on the scopes with higher base magnifications as they tend to be used for longer shooting applications. Bering has not confirmed 100% if they will pursue a 35mm LRF in the future or not. Only time will tell.
The 35mm SY is very versatile and can be used as a weapon's sight and/or a scanner due to the FOV and how compact and light it is.
Finally, with the R 35mm, can you still do custom BCD reticles with the EOTech-style vertical dots like I saw in the LRF 50mm video? I'm wondering if this reticle combined with the ranging line feature would still make for a quick coyote dropper...maybe quicker since the ranging lines and animal symbol are off to the side instead of basically right on top of the main aiming reticle?
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I helped Bering develop the range lines technology. It was a neat idea in theory but very few people used it. One other issue is animals vary in size. Especially now, a coyote pup is a lot smaller than an adult, so it can really mess up ranging if not using a LRF. LRFs are all the rage now and the Bering LRF is one of the strongest LRFs out there. 1300 yards on large objects, 1100 on smaller objects and around 900 yards on totally flat ground. That is pretty amazing.
As for a custom reticle, the ability for a user to create a custom reticle is only available at this time on the LRF models. The same 8 reticles (4 FFP and 4 SFP) exist across all the rest of the scopes.