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Quoted: At this point they should just concentrate on adapting the roller delay system to the 9mm version of the jakl. Think about it, 5 inch barrel, akv/scorp mags, lrbho, they could put the paddle mag release on it, ar fcg. It would be perfect. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Pretty sure that's a different thing. It's just a blowback AR using AK-V mags, right? When the PSA-5 was announced they were talking about an MP5-action (ie roller-delayed blowback) gun using AR FCG parts and AK-V mags. But it was so long ago I may be misremembering things. At this point they should just concentrate on adapting the roller delay system to the 9mm version of the jakl. Think about it, 5 inch barrel, akv/scorp mags, lrbho, they could put the paddle mag release on it, ar fcg. It would be perfect. Whatever gets delayed blow back 9mm with affordable mags that's reliable, reasonably accurate around $1000. I don't give a crap if it's a mp5 clone or something else. I want a 9x19 delayed blow back with 30 round mags that aren't $80, that I can put a nice brace on etc. |
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Quoted: Whatever gets delayed blow back 9mm with affordable mags that's reliable, reasonably accurate around $1000. I don't give a crap if it's a mp5 clone or something else. I want a 9x19 delayed blow back with 30 round mags that aren't $80, that I can put a nice brace on etc. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Pretty sure that's a different thing. It's just a blowback AR using AK-V mags, right? When the PSA-5 was announced they were talking about an MP5-action (ie roller-delayed blowback) gun using AR FCG parts and AK-V mags. But it was so long ago I may be misremembering things. At this point they should just concentrate on adapting the roller delay system to the 9mm version of the jakl. Think about it, 5 inch barrel, akv/scorp mags, lrbho, they could put the paddle mag release on it, ar fcg. It would be perfect. Whatever gets delayed blow back 9mm with affordable mags that's reliable, reasonably accurate around $1000. I don't give a crap if it's a mp5 clone or something else. I want a 9x19 delayed blow back with 30 round mags that aren't $80, that I can put a nice brace on etc. |
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Quoted: Pretty sure that's a different thing. It's just a blowback AR using AK-V mags, right? When the PSA-5 was announced they were talking about an MP5-action (ie roller-delayed blowback) gun using AR FCG parts and AK-V mags. But it was so long ago I may be misremembering things. View Quote Sorry...thought that’s what you were asking about, but I guess it’s not. I don’t know anything about what you’re actually referring to. |
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Quoted: Sorry...thought that's what you were asking about, but I guess it's not. I don't know anything about what you're actually referring to. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Pretty sure that's a different thing. It's just a blowback AR using AK-V mags, right? When the PSA-5 was announced they were talking about an MP5-action (ie roller-delayed blowback) gun using AR FCG parts and AK-V mags. But it was so long ago I may be misremembering things. Sorry...thought that's what you were asking about, but I guess it's not. I don't know anything about what you're actually referring to. |
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Quoted: Whatever gets delayed blow back 9mm with affordable mags that's reliable, reasonably accurate around $1000. I don't give a crap if it's a mp5 clone or something else. I want a 9x19 delayed blow back with 30 round mags that aren't $80, that I can put a nice brace on etc. View Quote CMMG banshee? You can get a complete one that takes glock mags, or get a upper, put it on any AR lower, and use the mag inserts to use 30 round p-mags. |
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[#6]
i wish these were still coming out this year.. i just dont know when they will now.. :( anyone got a definate idea when we'll see a MP5 by PSA?
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Quoted: CMMG banshee? You can get a complete one that takes glock mags, or get a upper, put it on any AR lower, and use the mag inserts to use 30 round p-mags. View Quote 10-15 week wait on banshees. I ordered one on the 16th so probably by Christmas. Bet we still won’t see the PS MP5 by then. |
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Quoted: Can we get a "no shit" status update on this? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes it would be nice. im betting now its gonna be 2021 before they make it out now.. if we're lucky. Quoted: Hopefully by 4 / 20 / 2069 haha i know it seems like that.. i think they'll be out in 2021 sometime myself, not sure when though sadly. |
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Quoted: What if the PSA cost more, but didn't snap trunnions, could be used with a suppressor, and was compatible with MP5 locking pieces and other parts? View Quote The closer you get to the price of the real thing the smaller your market becomes and I’d wager it’s not a linear relationship. At $1,600 you’re now fragmenting you’re market into people who are willing to pay the difference for the real thing AND people who won’t pay more for this clone than they would any other even if there are marginal benefits. |
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[#14]
Got tired of waiting and bought an SP5.
Drag your feet, lose your seat (money). |
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[#15]
I saw a PTR 9KT at a gun shop yesturday. I didn't want to hold it slightly more than I wanted to.
ETA Maybe it was an MP5K |
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I moved on as well and ordered something else. But I will still visit here to see what’s going on with it.
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[#19]
Quoted: Where did you find one? I'm considering going that route as well, since the PSA MP5 clone appears to be vaporware at this point. View Quote @ek207108 Sorry for the late reply. I said fuck it and bought one off of GB. I'm on lists with 4 or 5 different shops, had one refund my deposit, and was just tired of hoping a place might get one in (and my name was on top of the list). The place that refunded my money, I'd been one their list since March and they're a high volume LE dealer. I already received the one I bought, sent it off for engraving, submitted the eForm 1, and should have it all legally put back together before Halloween. Could have been an easy sale for someone if they would have just quit treating us like mushrooms (feeding us shit and keeping us in the dark). |
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Disclaimer: I don’t know this guy and I’ve never seen any of his videos besides the one below. But since PSA won’t chime in, here’s some hearsay for everyone to ponder. Skip to 4:27.
PALMETTO STATE ARMORY PSA: Dagger, AK 103, JAKL and PSA5 Latest News!!! Spoiler: Homeboy in the vid is claiming the person heading up the ps5, left psa and the company that was working with psa on this project has not made it a priority. Who knows if these claims are true or not. Maybe Josiah will chime in with more than, “I don’t know”. Regardless of these claims, I won’t be waiting around any longer. What’s it been, almost 3 years since the initial teaser at SHOT?! |
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[#22]
Quoted: I went that route as well. View Quote Last November I was tired of waiting. At first I went with the PTR9. Then this past March picked up my first SP5. I spent about a G more on it than what the PSA was said to cost and have not looked back. The weapon used is worth more than what I paid for it and runs flawless with/without a can and any ammo. Time behind the weapon overrides the extra cost I spent. Those who been waiting 3 years on PSA just to save a buck, you can always make more money, you can’t buy more time. If you really wanted an MP5 type roller, should have gotten while the getting was good. |
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“We know two things for sure: It’s going to be available in 2020, and it’s going to be significantly lower than the closest competitor.”
Any update on this? |
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Quoted: “We know two things for sure: It’s going to be available in 2020, and it’s going to be significantly lower than the closest competitor.” Any update on this? View Quote I've been one of their biggest defenders in this thread, but I've come to accept that it definitely won't happen in 2020, and may not happen at all. I'll probably pick up a PTR instead. |
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Quoted: Disclaimer: I don’t know this guy and I’ve never seen any of his videos besides the one below. But since PSA won’t chime in, here’s some hearsay for everyone to ponder. Skip to 4:27. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWrxJ8Pv04g Spoiler: Homeboy in the vid is claiming the person heading up the ps5, left psa and the company that was working with psa on this project has not made it a priority. Who knows if these claims are true or not. Maybe Josiah will chime in with more than, “I don’t know”. Regardless of these claims, I won’t be waiting around any longer. What’s it been, almost 3 years since the initial teaser at SHOT?! View Quote My buddy said the same thing. He said the guy also took the plans with him. Dont know if its true or not. But if psa was smart they would crank up production on things they already make and scrap future products. Get things out before any gun control can happen. Realistically not many are looking for niche guns. Theyre stocking aks, ars, handguns, and ammo. |
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Quoted: My buddy said the same thing. He said the guy also took the plans with him. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes It won't matter. Century is going to be importing legit MKE MP5s, and they have promised the lowest price. But if psa was smart they would crank up production on things they already make and scrap future products. Get things out before any gun control can happen. Realistically not many are looking for niche guns. Theyre stocking aks, ars, handguns, and ammo. I disagree with this. PSA is 100% on the right track with the JAKL and the ARV. Swim in blue ocean- develop unique offerings that NOBODY else has, or are similar to other offerings yet have enhanced functionality- like the LRBHO on the AKV. If you want to make Glocks, you have to be the cheapest Glock AND ALSO convince people that they should be including cheap as a criteria and give it high priority. If you want to make AKs, you have to be the cheapest AK AND ALSO convince people that they should be including cheap as a criteria and give it high priority (or Robski needs to show us that the FN barrel is superior to factory guns). If you want to make ARs, you have to be the cheapest AR AND ALSO convince people that they should be including cheap as a criteria and give it high priority. I wouldn't want to play that game. I look forward to an ARV Essentials price drop, and would encourage PSA to license the Radial Delay patent from CMMG (US20180142972A1). |
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Quoted: If you want to make AKs, you have to be the cheapest AK AND ALSO convince people that they should be including cheap as a criteria and give it high priority (or Robski needs to show us that the FN barrel is superior to factory guns). View Quote lol. You haven't been buying any PSA AKs lately, have you? They're playing in the $750-$1100 range. Everything they have on the higher end sells out instantly. People waiting 6 months for more of the AK-E to drop. The 103, 74, GF4 folders, 12.5" GF3 pistols, and all the tactical tony JL billet railed models. WASR are currently $699, VSKA are $799, and still every AK that PSA lists on their website costing more sells out within minutes. |
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Quoted: @Kalashnikev101 Woah, this is the first I've heard of this but cool if true. Any work on if they'll have MP5Ks? Also any word on timeframe? View Quote Just Google it. AP5. This is Palmetto's forum, and as it relates to the PSA MP5, folks should not be so disappointed or critical that it failed to materialize. If these imports go through (as Turkey is currently trafficking transnational Jihadists into Azerbaijan) then it will be a blessing in disguise. |
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Quoted: lol. You haven't been buying any PSA AKs lately, have you? They're playing in the $750-$1100 range. Everything they have on the higher end sells out instantly. People waiting 6 months for more of the AK-E to drop. The 103, 74, GF4 folders, 12.5" GF3 pistols, and all the tactical tony JL billet railed models. WASR are currently $699, VSKA are $799, and still every AK that PSA lists on their website costing more sells out within minutes. View Quote In reality though, I've seen WASRs move above $1K lately... a few junked out ones under that, and one NIB sitting at $1,200 that I wonder how long it will be before it sells. Just for my curiosity though... not because I'm looking for a WASR. I am interested in an AK-105, as someone else asked for in a recent thread here. I think that would be a smart move for PSA, since we never got an SLR-104-CR from Arsenal, and there is demand in the market without competition from industry. Other smart moves, if I were in a PSA product development meeting, would be: STG-940 Valmet M78 MPi-AKS-74-NK Any of the above are much more within striking distance, based on what they have today, than a RDBB gun. They are also compelling- i.e. you just want to buy them, not ask yourself if you can save a little more, or if it's a good idea, etc... |
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Quoted: In reality though, I've seen WASRs move above $1K lately... a few junked out ones under that, and one NIB sitting at $1,200 that I wonder how long it will be before it sells. Just for my curiosity though... not because I'm looking for a WASR. I am interested in an AK-105, as someone else asked for in a recent thread here. I think that would be a smart move for PSA, since we never got an SLR-104-CR from Arsenal, and there is demand in the market without competition from industry. Other smart moves, if I were in a PSA product development meeting, would be: STG-940 Valmet M78 MPi-AKS-74-NK Any of the above are much more within striking distance, based on what they have today, than a RDBB gun. They are also compelling- i.e. you just want to buy them, not ask yourself if you can save a little more, or if it's a good idea, etc... View Quote I don't know many companies that would put resources into new designs right now with Biden promising gun bans when/if he takes office in a couple of months |
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Thanks for the hopes PSA - ended up picking up a PTR 9CT because y’all got me in the mood for an MP5 clone but left me blue balled ???????
Would be cool if PSA came out with an MP5 but I doubt it’ll happen. |
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hahaah yea probabaly Quoted: It’s not happening. every time i ask about it i get a its still happening its just been pushed back as an answer.. so idk.. maybe your right...maybe not. I can hope for one, and im not in any hurry so those two things are good. but over all i can see why everyone is frusterated at the 3 year wait. |
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They’ll have a girl in a slinky dress pose with it at SHOT. Everyone will pretend its still happening for another year. Magpul will drop some more mp5 furniture no one wants. Another year of everyone saying a PSA MP5 is a real thing.
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Quoted: They’ll have a girl in a slinky dress pose with it at SHOT. Everyone will pretend its still happening for another year. Magpul will drop some more mp5 furniture no one wants. Another year of everyone saying a PSA MP5 is a real thing. View Quote I believe this is a likely scenario. At shot show 2022 of course since 2021 has been canceled |
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[#38]
I gave up and got my 9ct. Love it.
I might would consider a k if PSA ever delivers, but I'm definitely not holding my breath. |
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I actually bought some HK mags on sale.
Proceeding with backup plans to build a CMMG Banchee now. |
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View Quote Please post video of you shooting that |
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Quoted: I don't know many companies that would put resources into new designs right now with Biden promising gun bans when/if he takes office in a couple of months View Quote Imagine if PSA bought up every Uzi kit that was recently imported, placed a large order on favorable terms for the provien McKay receiver, and sourced or designed-their-own 2 piece closed bolts... Everyone in America would own a PSA Uzi and be weighing it against all the other 9mm PCCs instead of whining for years about a commercial American clone gun to compete with other commercial American clone guns when everyone wants the genuine article from a legit source. |
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Quoted: Imagine if PSA bought up every Uzi kit that was recently imported, placed a large order on favorable terms for the provien McKay receiver, and sourced or designed-their-own 2 piece closed bolts... Everyone in America would own a PSA Uzi and be weighing it against all the other 9mm PCCs instead of whining for years about a commercial American clone gun to compete with other commercial American clone guns when everyone wants the genuine article from a legit source. View Quote Imagine if PSA even produced guns that they already promised |
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Quoted: Imagine if PSA bought up every Uzi kit that was recently imported, placed a large order on favorable terms for the provien McKay receiver, and sourced or designed-their-own 2 piece closed bolts... Everyone in America would own a PSA Uzi and be weighing it against all the other 9mm PCCs instead of whining for years about a commercial American clone gun to compete with other commercial American clone guns when everyone wants the genuine article from a legit source. View Quote |
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