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1/23/2021 12:44:15 PM EDT
[#1]
I ended up having a company in Oklahoma mill out a couple of milspec bcgs for me and they turned out fantastic.
1/25/2021 7:46:22 PM EDT
[#2]
10.5" uppers are in stock.  And day 20 since sending in my BCG for a broken extractor, for my first PSA experience it was so good to be my last.  First you buy a lower that you can't build much off of, wait months for uppers to come in stock, extractor breaks on it's first outing, and wait some more.  I'd think if it took so long to get the part in they would be rock solid, but what do I know I only have a degree in industrial engineering .
1/25/2021 9:52:39 PM EDT
[#3]
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Originally Posted By Gunslinger97:
I ended up having a company in Oklahoma mill out a couple of milspec bcgs for me and they turned out fantastic.
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Who did you use?
Her name was Ashli Babbitt.
1/27/2021 3:10:04 PM EDT
[#4]
Dirt Road Precision in Chandler, Ok. It was 55.00 plus the return shipping, Sooner rather than later imma send them a piston bcg to mill.
2/1/2021 1:44:31 PM EDT
[#5]
I did get my BCG back. This time the extractor lasted only ~300 rds. Any others here with a failure yet?
2/2/2021 12:02:10 PM EDT
[#6]
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Originally Posted By nyetriflefine:
I did get my BCG back. This time the extractor lasted only ~300 rds. Any others here with a failure yet?
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Mine is at 500ish rounds currently so prime time for it to break. That being said, I just bought an RH-10 to pair with it so I've got another capable 7.62x39 on hand that I don't gotta worry about.

I know 7.62x39 is prone to breaking extractors but I'm thinking a redesign might be in order.
No matter how important it is, it can be taken WAY too fucking seriously.

Unapologetic 9x39 fanboi
2/2/2021 12:47:09 PM EDT
[#7]
What buffer and spring combination are you guys using with your KS47s? I'm trying out an H3 and a Tubbs flat wire spring to see if that helps retard the bolt a bit.
Scepticism is an exercise, not a life; it is a discipline fit to purify the mind of prejudice and render it all the more apt, when the time comes, to believe and to act wisely. -- George Santayana

Never mistake a clear view for a short distance.
2/2/2021 2:14:32 PM EDT
[#8]
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Originally Posted By vmpglenn:
What buffer and spring combination are you guys using with your KS47s? I'm trying out an H3 and a Tubbs flat wire spring to see if that helps retard the bolt a bit.
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adjustable gas block is what you seek
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2/2/2021 3:13:59 PM EDT
[#9]
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Originally Posted By nyetriflefine:
I did get my BCG back. This time the extractor lasted only ~300 rds. Any others here with a failure yet?
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Originally Posted By nyetriflefine:
I did get my BCG back. This time the extractor lasted only ~300 rds. Any others here with a failure yet?


Are you seeing any wear or marks on the locking lugs or barrel extension? Maybe the extension is a little off and the lugs/extractor are hitting to extension?

Originally Posted By Raider14:


I know 7.62x39 is prone to breaking extractors but I'm thinking a redesign might be in order.


unfortunately Im not sure there is much redesigning that can be done. Everything still has to fit in an ar15 upper which limits the amount of extra material that can be added to anything.
2/3/2021 12:21:30 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Gunslinger97:
Dirt Road Precision in Chandler, Ok. It was 55.00 plus the return shipping, Sooner rather than later imma send them a piston bcg to mill.
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Simply ask for the bolt to be milled for AK magazines?  How long did yours take?
Words fall from your mouth like shit from ass.
2/3/2021 10:51:50 PM EDT
[#11]
I sent them an email along with a copy of a schematic i found showing the instructions on how to cut it. Turn around time was like 1.5-2 weeks, USPS took forever to get it back. But the bcgs are legit and work with most of my mags, some of the pmags need minor filing but they're polymer so no big deal.
2/6/2021 11:12:25 AM EDT
[#12]
anyone try pairin this lower with a turk 410 upper and a saiga 410 magazine?  



tjhe regular ar magwell doesnt allow for many options in 410 ammo, soooooo, i thought.....
2/12/2021 10:52:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: PalmettoStateArmory][Edited] [#13]
I was told that a new BCG will be shipped out to me more than 2 weeks ago by Josiah. Haven't received nada as of today, and dude ain't even replying to my msg.   - Note From Josiah - I had e-mailed the department that ships out the parts. I thought I had replied to you stating that was I waiting on the tracking. I just called that department, and I am waiting on a call back from them. I apologize for any frustration and the delay. I will message you as soon as I here back today. Josiah.
2/16/2021 4:22:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Goody454][Edited] [#14]
Does anyone know the functional differences between the Gen 1 bolt and the Gen 2?

I picked up a spare BCG off the EE which turned out to be a Gen 1 and right off I can tell the lugs aren’t rounded like the Gen 2.  Wasn’t this upgrade made to allow better function of Pmags (or maybe it was metal mags).

2/22/2021 1:55:08 PM EDT
[#15]
Been looking into picking up a KS47.  How widespread are these early extractor/bolt breakages?  If its such a common issue, I may just look into picking up a CMMG MK47 since PSA's prices complete rifle/pistols are starting to get close to MK47s.  

Adjustable gas block the solution?
2/22/2021 2:36:41 PM EDT
[#16]
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Originally Posted By mikego_34:
Been looking into picking up a KS47.  How widespread are these early extractor/bolt breakages?  If its such a common issue, I may just look into picking up a CMMG MK47 since PSA's prices complete rifle/pistols are starting to get close to MK47s.  

Adjustable gas block the solution?
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i have a gen 1 with probably close to 2k rounds through it, all suppressed and all with an adj gas block, no issues with the bolt/extractor
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2/22/2021 2:44:29 PM EDT
[#17]
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Originally Posted By mikego_34:
Been looking into picking up a KS47.  How widespread are these early extractor/bolt breakages?  If its such a common issue, I may just look into picking up a CMMG MK47 since PSA's prices complete rifle/pistols are starting to get close to MK47s.  

Adjustable gas block the solution?
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Keep in mind that the extractor issue isn’t exclusive to the PSA guns, but pretty much any AR chambered in x39 with a bored out AR-15 bolt.
Her name was Ashli Babbitt.
2/22/2021 2:53:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mikego_34][Edited] [#18]
Alright yall sold me! 😂. Ill swap to adjustable gas block right away.  Anyone seem the 10” model in stock lately?

Also, do the barrels have a good shoulder for proper muzzle device concentricity?  Im planning on throwing a suppressor on it.  Had poor shoulders on all of my PSA 300 blackout barrels....
2/22/2021 3:22:10 PM EDT
[#19]
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Originally Posted By mikego_34:

Alright yall sold me! 😂. Ill swap to adjustable gas block right away.  Anyone seem the 10” model in stock lately?

Also, do the barrels have a good shoulder for proper muzzle device concentricity?  Im planning on throwing a suppressor on it.  Had poor shoulders on all of my PSA 300 blackout barrels....
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i bought a faxon barrel at teh same time, kak wasnt in stock at the time

the psa barrel that came in the upper had a tiny shoulder and i didn't want to risk it
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2/22/2021 10:10:34 PM EDT
[#20]
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Originally Posted By mikego_34:

Alright yall sold me! 😂. Ill swap to adjustable gas block right away.  Anyone seem the 10” model in stock lately?

Also, do the barrels have a good shoulder for proper muzzle device concentricity?  Im planning on throwing a suppressor on it.  Had poor shoulders on all of my PSA 300 blackout barrels....
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I shoot mine suppressed just fine with a Griffin minimalist brake and 10” Form 1 can.
Her name was Ashli Babbitt.
2/23/2021 11:21:29 AM EDT
[#21]
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Originally Posted By bushmaster069:

I shoot mine suppressed just fine with a Griffin minimalist brake and 10” Form 1 can.
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Running an overbored can or 30 cal?
2/23/2021 1:55:39 PM EDT
[#22]
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Originally Posted By mikego_34:


Running an overbored can or 30 cal?
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Originally Posted By mikego_34:
Originally Posted By bushmaster069:

I shoot mine suppressed just fine with a Griffin minimalist brake and 10” Form 1 can.


Running an overbored can or 30 cal?

Overbored to .400 since I was using it on an AR9. Sounds good too, especially with the PPU subs.
Her name was Ashli Babbitt.
2/24/2021 4:02:55 PM EDT
[#23]
I received a new BCG sent by Josiah. Issue hence resolved.
2/26/2021 3:34:42 PM EDT
[#24]
How many of yall with round counts greater than 1000 are running 10.5” or shorter barrel?  Wondering if bolt breakages are much more common on the shorter barrels....

For those with shorter than 16” barrels, can you post your round counts and whether or not youve had bolt breakages?
2/26/2021 7:22:07 PM EDT
[#25]
I had roughly 500 through my 7.5” before I switched to my 11.5” YHM.
I probably have 200 on the new barrel, so 700 rounds and my bolt has a few dings on the lugs.

I have shot all Tula except a box or two of Hornady.
2/28/2021 3:46:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: oman774][Edited] [#26]
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Originally Posted By 2Bestsale:
I received a new BCG sent by Josiah. Issue hence resolved.
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My extractor on a 16inch barrel broke at 300 Rds. So far I have shot 500 rds with my new extractor and no problems so far.
2/28/2021 4:46:38 PM EDT
[#27]
I spoke with Jamin the other day. He told me the replacement extractors have been redesigned and use a harder material. I've got about 200 rounds on my replacement extractor. I don't anticipate anymore problems although I'd like to have a couple of spares for just in case.
NorCal_LEO call sign: Armour
2/28/2021 5:11:06 PM EDT
[#28]
Good feedback, Gents.  I picked up a ks47 lower.  Looking for a 10.5” upper with fixed A2 front sight now.  


@PalmettoStateArmory

Any idea on restock of this upper?

https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-gen2-ks47-10-5-carbine-length-7-62x39-1-10-nitride-classic-upper-with-bcg-ch.html
3/1/2021 10:33:02 AM EDT
[#29]
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Originally Posted By mikego_34:
Good feedback, Gents.  I picked up a ks47 lower.  Looking for a 10.5” upper with fixed A2 front sight now.  


@PalmettoStateArmory

Any idea on restock of this upper?

https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-gen2-ks47-10-5-carbine-length-7-62x39-1-10-nitride-classic-upper-with-bcg-ch.html
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Unfortunately I do not have an eta for that upper.

Thank you,

Josiah
Palmetto State Armory
200 Business Park Blvd
Columbia, SC 29203
Web Sales: 1-803-724-6950
[email protected]
3/1/2021 11:29:13 AM EDT
[#30]
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Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory:



Unfortunately I do not have an eta for that upper.

Thank you,

Josiah
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Is it discontinued?
3/1/2021 11:48:57 AM EDT
[#31]
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Originally Posted By mikego_34:


Is it discontinued?
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No, it is just not in stock at the moment.

Thank you,

Josiah
Palmetto State Armory
200 Business Park Blvd
Columbia, SC 29203
Web Sales: 1-803-724-6950
[email protected]
3/2/2021 11:10:06 PM EDT
[#32]
Needing some clarification, is the KS47's bolt and extractor a specifically milled part or will any 7.62x39 bolt work?  I know the bolt carrier is proprietary, just not sure if the bolt is.....
3/3/2021 12:27:52 AM EDT
[#33]
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Originally Posted By mikego_34:
Needing some clarification, is the KS47's bolt and extractor a specifically milled part or will any 7.62x39 bolt work?  I know the bolt carrier is proprietary, just not sure if the bolt is.....
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About the only way I know to verify if a bolt will work in a KS47 is by test fitting it into an AR15 carrier. If it will fit in the AR15 carrier then it will fit in the KS47 carrier since they have similar dimensions.
NorCal_LEO call sign: Armour
3/3/2021 9:53:40 AM EDT
[#34]
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Originally Posted By mikego_34:
Needing some clarification, is the KS47's bolt and extractor a specifically milled part or will any 7.62x39 bolt work?  I know the bolt carrier is proprietary, just not sure if the bolt is.....
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The Gen2 KS47 bolt is specifically milled @ the lugs to clear AK mags. This was one of the changes PSA made in their Gen2 guns based on issues with the Gen1s.

You *might* be able to get a standard 7.62x39 AR bolt to work, but you'd have to test it out with a variety of AK mags to see which combination is reliable.
Scepticism is an exercise, not a life; it is a discipline fit to purify the mind of prejudice and render it all the more apt, when the time comes, to believe and to act wisely. -- George Santayana

Never mistake a clear view for a short distance.
3/3/2021 11:23:31 AM EDT
[#35]
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Originally Posted By mikego_34:
Needing some clarification, is the KS47's bolt and extractor a specifically milled part or will any 7.62x39 bolt work?  I know the bolt carrier is proprietary, just not sure if the bolt is.....
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Other manufacturers bolts will most likely fit in our carrier, but our bolt is trimmed and designed to work with AK mags. You will most likely have feeding issues with other manufacturers bolts used in our carriers.

Thank you,

Josiah
Palmetto State Armory
200 Business Park Blvd
Columbia, SC 29203
Web Sales: 1-803-724-6950
[email protected]
3/5/2021 3:25:17 PM EDT
[#36]
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Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory:


Other manufacturers bolts will most likely fit in our carrier, but our bolt is trimmed and designed to work with AK mags. You will most likely have feeding issues with other manufacturers bolts used in our carriers.

Thank you,

Josiah
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Thank you, Josiah.  Would this JP enterprises Adjustable Gas Block work with the KS47s with A2 front sights on them (like the one I linked above)?

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1003364111
3/5/2021 4:27:54 PM EDT
[#37]
10.5" uppers are in stock, I finally grabbed one.  Fingers crossed it's a peach...
Tu Ne Cede Malis.
3/6/2021 9:39:35 AM EDT
[#38]
Still loving mine. Thinking about getting a devil dogs hard charger. I have ~1300 rounds through this rifle without a single malfunction on pmags. I shoot suppressed and unsuppressed. Strike industries flat wire .308 spring with a few coils snipped off. A gutted and drilled 0.9oz buffer, modified bolt carrier 9.38oz, I tapped a Samson lightweight gas block and installed a gas reduction insert a (10-32 grub screw with a small hole drilled in it I forget the size).  It's a 16" midlength gassed faxon barrel, original psa firing pin, bolt, and extractor. I did bob the hammer on the psa ept trigger.


3/8/2021 1:13:09 PM EDT
[#39]
Monday March 8.  

Lot of uppers and complete pistol in stock.  

Of course I bought mine before I posted.  
Words fall from your mouth like shit from ass.
3/8/2021 2:07:01 PM EDT
[#40]
Since loading the weapon will always go through rear charging handle, can anyone recommend a aftermarket charging handle that is bee's knees?  I've already looked at the Hard Charger, but Im not sure I want to go that direction....
3/8/2021 3:16:46 PM EDT
[#41]
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Originally Posted By mikego_34:
Since loading the weapon will always go through rear charging handle, can anyone recommend a aftermarket charging handle that is bee's knees?  I've already looked at the Hard Charger, but Im not sure I want to go that direction....
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Why not the DDC Hard Charger? I have one on my KS47 and it rocks.
Scepticism is an exercise, not a life; it is a discipline fit to purify the mind of prejudice and render it all the more apt, when the time comes, to believe and to act wisely. -- George Santayana

Never mistake a clear view for a short distance.
3/8/2021 3:34:49 PM EDT
[#42]
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Originally Posted By vmpglenn:


Why not the DDC Hard Charger? I have one on my KS47 and it rocks.
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Wear and tear on receiver with side charging doesn’t seem worth it.  It looks like it binds in the upper receiver after enough wear is present to me....
3/8/2021 5:24:32 PM EDT
[#43]
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Originally Posted By mikego_34:


Wear and tear on receiver with side charging doesn’t seem worth it.  It looks like it binds in the upper receiver after enough wear is present to me....
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I did have to mod my Hard Charger slightly to fit the wider KS47 upper, but that took 10 minutes with a file. Now it doesn't bind in any way. Is that what you're seeing in terms of binding?
Scepticism is an exercise, not a life; it is a discipline fit to purify the mind of prejudice and render it all the more apt, when the time comes, to believe and to act wisely. -- George Santayana

Never mistake a clear view for a short distance.
3/8/2021 5:26:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By vmpglenn:


I did have to mod my Hard Charger slightly to fit the wider KS47 upper, but that took 10 minutes with a file. Now it doesn't bind in any way. Is that what you're seeing in terms of binding?
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Internal binding more so on the inner part of receiver.

If I were to go with a side charger Id probably just go with the Gibbz one.

Downside with Gibbz, is Im not sure PSA would still warranty the upper (mostly concerned about PSA BCG breakage), since the swapped receiver is not manufactured by them.
3/8/2021 5:27:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mikego_34:


Internal binding more so on the inner part of receiver.
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Hmm. I'm not getting anything worse that what I would see with a standard CH. It's not like the Hard Charger flexes while you rack it.
Scepticism is an exercise, not a life; it is a discipline fit to purify the mind of prejudice and render it all the more apt, when the time comes, to believe and to act wisely. -- George Santayana

Never mistake a clear view for a short distance.
3/8/2021 7:42:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mikego_34][Edited] [#46]
Anyone know if the PSA KS47!barrel has a proprietary barrel extension?  Essentially asking if I can swap the KS47 barrel with other 7.62x39 barrel manufacturers?
3/8/2021 8:26:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: lok993][Edited] [#47]
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Originally Posted By mikego_34:
Anyone know if the PSA KS47!barrel has a proprietary barrel extension?  Essentially asking if I can swap the KS47 barrel with other 7.62x39 barrel manufacturers?
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I don't think so. I think it's just a standard m4 with the feed ramps removed basically. The single feed ramp helps with feeding because of the taper of the round so you may have feeding issues with standard m4 ramps but a different barrel should fit.

Question is why would you want to change out the barrel
3/9/2021 12:41:57 AM EDT
[#48]
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Originally Posted By mikego_34:
Anyone know if the PSA KS47!barrel has a proprietary barrel extension?  Essentially asking if I can swap the KS47 barrel with other 7.62x39 barrel manufacturers?
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standard barrel, i swapped mine out for a faxon and all is good with the world
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3/14/2021 6:58:20 AM EDT
[#49]
Superlative Arms adj gas block made the most difference.  Went to a VLTOR A5 tube and tried 3.8, 4.5 & 5.3oz buffers, tried 308 & 223 rifle springs, both JP round & Tubbs flatwire. The best combo was A5H1 4.5oz buffer with Tubbs flatwire 308 rifle spring, which is what I'm running now.  Muzzle devices didn't seem to make much difference so left the SJC Titan in place. Dot still bounces more than 223 but its as good as its going to get with a carbine gas system.  I wish these things came with mid gas.  The A5 tube & rifle springs seemed to help, but overall the single biggest improvement is adjustable gas.
NRA Ring of Freedom
3/18/2021 6:18:46 PM EDT
[#50]
Is the torque spec on the KS47 barrel nut any different than a 556/223 chambered AR?  Thinking 40 ft lbs would be good to go.

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