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5/30/2022 12:38:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Minuteman1636][Edited]
PENDING NEW RELEASE: The RSR Group website has a new release by Colt listed. The CM5 Sentry. Manufacturer part # CM556-16-M5S.

There is not a release date unfortunately.

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5/30/2022 1:00:59 PM EDT
[#1]
Interesting.

Curious to see what comes of this...

5/30/2022 1:08:59 PM EDT
[#2]
The Colt CM5 as listed on Classic Firearms website.

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5/30/2022 1:37:07 PM EDT
[#3]
Here’s hoping it has the M5 carbine markings on it.  

I also hope they do a P/W 14.5” version.
5/30/2022 1:41:04 PM EDT
[#4]
It’s about damn time . Looks like a mid length barrel from what I can see of gas block location, do you know if it is?
5/30/2022 1:41:55 PM EDT
[#5]
That is going to cost me money.
Libenter homines id quod volunt credunt.
5/30/2022 4:07:54 PM EDT
[#6]
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Originally Posted By FONTY:
It’s about damn time . Looks like a mid length barrel from what I can see of gas block location, do you know if it is?
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What I have seen is that it is a standard carbine length (16.1") barrel.
5/30/2022 4:08:21 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By llanero:
That is going to cost me money.
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5/30/2022 4:08:53 PM EDT
[#8]
Release is currently scheduled around the end of June or early July.
5/30/2022 4:35:00 PM EDT
[#9]
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Originally Posted By Minuteman1636:


What I have seen is that it is a standard carbine length (16.1") barrel.
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Seems you are correct, hopefully they sell it in 14.5”

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14.5”
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5/30/2022 5:27:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: OCW][Edited] [#10]
Too bad there are no user names on the posts in some of my old threads.
5/30/2022 5:47:58 PM EDT
[#11]
Previously, only the M7 had a 13 or 13.5 rail, because the longest barrel on the M5 was a 14.5. So, this is a new rail. I wonder who’s manufacturing them?

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5/30/2022 6:00:42 PM EDT
[#12]
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Originally Posted By CountyWorker:
Too bad there are no user names on the posts in some of my old threads.
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With a retail price of over $2100, this rifle has nothing to do with what your “dream rifle” Colt should make was and posts you had about it.
5/30/2022 8:02:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Bishop3][Edited] [#13]
I like the CM5 Ambi-Lower, probably going to need one of these.
Please keep us updated on where to purchase when these make it to market.

The outlook is growing dismal for another CM7 production/release. The M-Lok rail on the CM762-16S is thick, heavy duty.
Will the CM5 M-Lok rail will be as thick.

What guns has Colt sold with an legit M-Lok rail? All Centurion Arms rails, 6960 CCU, 6920EPR, 6920-R Trooper and what else?
Could the CM5 rail be their in house production? Anyhoo, kind of excited about something relatively new coming out from Colt in a carbine.
USMC 85-'93 Amphibious YAT-YAS
5/30/2022 9:16:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By oxford411:


With a retail price of over $2100, this rifle has nothing to do with what your “dream rifle” Colt should make was and posts you had about it.
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What do you think it will hit the streets for? 1699?
5/30/2022 9:18:31 PM EDT
[#15]
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Originally Posted By Bishop3:
I like the CM5 Ambi-Lower, probably going to need one of these.
Please keep us updated on where to purchase when these make it to market.

The outlook is growing dismal for another CM7 production/release. The M-Lok rail on the CM762-16S is thick, heavy duty.
Will the CM5 M-Lok rail will be as thick.

What guns has Colt sold with an legit M-Lok rail? All Centurion Arms rails, 6960 CCU, 6920EPR, 6920-R Trooper and what else?
Could the CM5 rail be their in house production? Anyhoo, kind of excited about something relatively new coming out from Colt in a carbine.
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FBP1
FBP2
5/31/2022 2:46:36 AM EDT
[#16]
Let’s Go!!!!
5/31/2022 4:17:02 AM EDT
[#17]
The mil version comes in a few different & interestin variants.. hopefully we’ll see the semi auto versions as well

https://media.shootingsportsmedia.com/downloads/colt-2020-m5-cm556-10h-m5a-specsheet-web.pdf
5/31/2022 8:49:38 AM EDT
[#18]
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Originally Posted By CountyWorker:


What do you think it will hit the streets for? 1699?
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I saw a site with it listed at 1784 I think it was.
5/31/2022 10:10:32 AM EDT
[#19]
I’m very interested if they are under $1800.
Free men do not ask for permission.
5/31/2022 2:25:24 PM EDT
[#20]
I do can't wait for this.  I will probably put my 6960 on the lower.   It's going to be epic.  Now are the people that suck off.. KAC and LMT will see an advanced ambie colt
5/31/2022 4:32:54 PM EDT
[#21]
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Originally Posted By MGYSGT8541:
I will probably put my 6960 on the lower.
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I really hope Colt uses this barrel for the 16” version.

If it is indeed carbine gas, what are we going to get, an OEM2 barrel under the handguard?
5/31/2022 6:45:34 PM EDT
[#22]
Carbine gas with a 16" barrel? Freaking Colt! C'mon!
Change is the only constant. - Heractilus
5/31/2022 9:12:52 PM EDT
[#23]
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Originally Posted By urbankaos04:
Carbine gas with a 16" barrel? Freaking Colt! C'mon!
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Carbine gas is great. Don't get carried away. Mid length is good but carbine is close.
6/1/2022 3:55:38 AM EDT
[#24]
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Originally Posted By MGYSGT8541:
Carbine gas is great. Don't get carried away. Mid length is good but carbine is close.
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Originally Posted By MGYSGT8541:
Originally Posted By urbankaos04:
Carbine gas with a 16" barrel? Freaking Colt! C'mon!
Carbine gas is great. Don't get carried away. Mid length is good but carbine is close.


They shoulda just used the 6960 barrel. That barrel has an appropriately sized GP for a 16” bbl. I’m just saying that they should have used the better configuration.
Change is the only constant. - Heractilus
6/1/2022 10:39:16 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By MGYSGT8541:
I do can't wait for this.  I will probably put my 6960 on the lower.   It's going to be epic.  Now are the people that suck off.. KAC and LMT will see an advanced ambie colt
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Wow.
6/1/2022 11:16:07 AM EDT
[#26]
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Originally Posted By MGYSGT8541:
I do can't wait for this.  I will probably put my 6960 on the lower.   It's going to be epic.  Now are the people that suck off.. KAC and LMT will see an advanced ambie colt
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"Not if you want it for a collector. Why clone the real deal when the real deal is available.  This isn't a PSA or assembly forum.. damn"


I regret nothing. The end.
6/1/2022 3:04:36 PM EDT
[#27]
Looking around curious about the M-Lok rail on the M5.
I've read recently on a dealer website their description on the  the M5 Sentry will have a  "...new Geissele designed free floating rail".

Cool, must be a great rail then.


USMC 85-'93 Amphibious YAT-YAS
6/1/2022 5:05:50 PM EDT
[#28]
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Originally Posted By urbankaos04:


They shoulda just used the 6960 barrel. That barrel has an appropriately sized GP for a 16” bbl. I’m just saying that they should have used the better configuration.
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Originally Posted By urbankaos04:
Originally Posted By MGYSGT8541:
Originally Posted By urbankaos04:
Carbine gas with a 16" barrel? Freaking Colt! C'mon!
Carbine gas is great. Don't get carried away. Mid length is good but carbine is close.


They shoulda just used the 6960 barrel. That barrel has an appropriately sized GP for a 16” bbl. I’m just saying that they should have used the better configuration.


I can’t find it anymore, but years ago when one of Colt’s guys (not the YouTube dipshit) used to post online he said how they did some pretty extensive testing of the mid-length and the carbine setup and saw zero quantifiable difference between the two related to parts breakage and stoppages.

This was years before the 6960 came out.
6/1/2022 7:23:21 PM EDT
[#29]
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Originally Posted By samuse:


I can't find it anymore, but years ago when one of Colt's guys (not the YouTube dipshit) used to post online he said how they did some pretty extensive testing of the mid-length and the carbine setup and saw zero quantifiable difference between the two related to parts breakage and stoppages.

This was years before the 6960 came out.
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If it is then is slight.  I can feel the difference with a 20 inch compared to a carbine.  People always overblow crap.  I like the 6960 but I also love the 6920 EPR.  They are pretty even as far as recoil
6/2/2022 5:30:17 AM EDT
[#30]
Rather than the debate of car vs middy.. I’m be more interested to see a decent barrel profile.

The m4 profile as seen on the trooper was quite useless
6/2/2022 6:35:10 PM EDT
[#31]
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Originally Posted By Frens:
Rather than the debate of car vs middy.. I’m be more interested to see a decent barrel profile.

The m4 profile as seen on the trooper was quite useless
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From Colt’s pics of the 14.5” it doesn’t look like it and no reason for M4 profile if you can’t mount a M203

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6/2/2022 7:00:05 PM EDT
[#32]
Any word if it is a propriety barrel or not?
6/2/2022 7:00:49 PM EDT
[#33]
My belief is it is a standard carbine barrel.
6/2/2022 9:05:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: oxford411][Edited] [#34]
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Originally Posted By FONTY:

From Colt’s pics of the 14.5” it doesn’t look like it and no reason for M4 profile if you can’t mount a M203

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/236598/89E51C3A-1A83-424A-A5CE-50A8C8429A5F_jpe-2405420.JPG

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I saw an ad where it stated “m4a1” profile barrel on the above you have pictured.

Based on that, I would take a guess and say the “H” in the model number CM556-14H-M5A stands for heavy.

Edit.  Here’s what I saw,  it’s not the exact same model number but I still bet that’s what the “H” is for in the above 14.5” rifle.



6/2/2022 10:32:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Minuteman1636][Edited] [#35]
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Originally Posted By FONTY:

From Colt’s pics of the 14.5” it doesn’t look like it and no reason for M4 profile if you can’t mount a M203

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/236598/89E51C3A-1A83-424A-A5CE-50A8C8429A5F_jpe-2405420.JPG

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I managed to get the current Colt International Military and Law Enforcement catalog. Here is the M203 design that is promoted in the catalog as a 'new' product. They are promoting a rail mounted M203 design and not the legacy barrel nut/barrel mount interface.

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The legacy M203 design is still available for the cheaper rifles (M4A1 carbine, etc) but the rail mounted design is what is promoted for the M5, M7, etc.
6/3/2022 1:36:40 PM EDT
[#36]
I hope CZ is pushing Colt to release all this cool stuff.
6/3/2022 7:34:00 PM EDT
[#37]
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Originally Posted By Minuteman1636:
My belief is it is a standard carbine barrel.
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From the parts diagram on the international site the barrels appear to use 6940 extensions.
6/3/2022 7:35:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By call_me_ski:


From the parts diagram on the international site the barrels appear to use 6940 extensions.
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That would be interesting since they aren't using one piece upper receivers. We will know soon.
6/3/2022 7:53:04 PM EDT
[#39]
I am in for at least one.

But, one is none, two is one....
I regret nothing. The end.
6/3/2022 7:57:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: call_me_ski][Edited] [#40]
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Originally Posted By Minuteman1636:


That would be interesting since they aren't using one piece upper receivers. We will know soon.
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The way the barrel interfaces with the receiver is like their monolithic guns.  The upper has an extension that is internally threaded that the barrel slips into followed by the barrel nut. The handguard actually mounts to the upper around the outside of the extension rather than a threaded on barrel nut. Even though they are two piece uppers they have more in common with their monolithic uppers in design than a traditional upper.  



6/3/2022 8:03:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By call_me_ski:


The way the barrel interfaces with the receiver is like their monolithic guns.  The upper has an extension that is internally threaded that the barrel slips into followed by the barrel nut. The handguard actually mounts to the upper around the outside of the extension rather than a threaded on barrel nut. Even though they are two piece uppers they have more uncommon with their monolithic uppers in design than a traditional upper.  

https://i.imgur.com/AZ0ltK3.png

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Very interesting. Good find. Thanks for posting.
6/3/2022 8:13:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Minuteman1636:


Very interesting. Good find. Thanks for posting.
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No problem. I have been excited for these hoping Colt would start selling them here.
6/4/2022 12:25:51 AM EDT
[Last Edit: MGYSGT8541][Edited] [#43]
I wonder if they will cum with socom barrels?
6/4/2022 6:48:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MGYSGT8541:
I wonder if they will cum with socom barrels?
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That's the only way I'd be interested. The government profile makes no sense.
6/5/2022 12:12:58 AM EDT
[#45]
I highly doubt you are going to see a socom profile on the 16” rifle unless it’s going to be P/W to get to that length.

There would be no reason to see any sort of socom profile in a true 16” barrel as Colt doesn’t have anything currently like that and it would be a pointless profile to make for this rifle since you can’t mount a 203 in the traditional way.

It would be nice if they did do a new barrel profile for the 16” rifle other than using the govt. m4 barrel from the OEM1.
6/5/2022 12:14:00 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By oxford411:
I highly doubt you are going to see a socom profile on the 16” rifle unless it’s going to be P/W to get to that length.

There would be no reason to see any sort of socom profile in a true 16” barrel as Colt doesn’t have anything currently like that and it would be a pointless profile to make for this rifle since you can’t mount a 203 in the traditional way.

It would be nice if they did do a new barrel profile for the 16” rifle other than using the govt. m4 barrel from the OEM1.
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Agreed.
6/5/2022 8:32:18 AM EDT
[#47]
My only question:

Should I buy 2? One to shoot & one for collecting

I haven't been this excited since the correctly roll marked 'stamped' US Property M4A1 Carbine SOCOM.

The internationally renowned modern Colt ambidextrous CM5 will likely be all engraved and I'm okay with that.

I was excited about a CM7 but now the CM5 Sentry.





USMC 85-'93 Amphibious YAT-YAS
6/5/2022 1:40:58 PM EDT
[#48]
I just want the lower for my LE6960 CCU and LE6933 EPR.
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6/5/2022 2:10:58 PM EDT
[#49]
It would be awesome if Colt did what G does with the superduty and sell the 16”, a 14.5” P/W, and the 11.5 and 10.3 as pistols.

6/6/2022 11:19:23 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By oxford411:
It would be awesome if Colt did what G does with the superduty and sell the 16”, a 14.5” P/W, and the 11.5 and 10.3 as pistols.

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For sure man that would be awesome.

Cheers
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