Official Dagger Thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Page 7 of 18)
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Originally Posted By swampfoxoutdoors: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/424008/F0840C5F-DC83-402F-85D6-78FFA188BF35_jpe-1941422.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/424008/0A591FF6-6E25-4A33-A235-4EF93E4C5EC8_jpe-1941423.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/424008/CDBD2394-3E4B-444F-B5E2-77D032D77E5A_jpe-1941424.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/424008/7EFBDF6E-28B6-4047-BDAC-11041C5AA03E_jpe-1941425.JPG Showing mag wobble and gritty trigger. Once again I think the trigger can be fixed easy.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKOaOsAbgCcNeither of those issues seem like a big deal for a 299 dollar gun with good fit and finish. Particularly one that is likely designed to take an array of aftermarket mags and uses internals that are readily accessible for upgrades. I am more interested to see one of these shoot through 500 rounds or so. ....As well as being in stock so I can actually buy one. |
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Originally Posted By ag04blast: Neither of those issues seem like a big deal for a 299 dollar gun with good fit and finish. Particularly one that is likely designed to take an array of aftermarket mags and uses internals that are readily accessible for upgrades. I am more interested to see one of these shoot through 500 rounds or so. ....As well as being in stock so I can actually buy one. For $299 and going with the assumption that it’s 100% reliable I’d say it’s a real winner. My concern with mag wobble is it hanging or binding up the slide while cycling. If that isn’t a issue then I could careless on the mag wobble. Like everything with PSA QC will make or break this gun. I feel they have a good warranty department so if it does brake they will make it right. And if the price goes for more than $399 in the current climate it would be a hard pass for me personally. At that point you have many more competitive options that are proven. |
I have 2 feed marks on my lower feed ramp that make we wonder if it was a result of the forward/backward play. That being said It fed all my different ammo so far, albeit only 60 rounds. It was a hodgepodge of 4 factory types and 3 of my reloads. I also only used a factory 33 round stick mag. 
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Originally Posted By sixgunsblazing: I'll take one at 299. Or more with threads and optic cut |
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Originally Posted By swampfoxoutdoors: For $299 and going with the assumption that it’s 100% reliable I’d say it’s a real winner. My concern with mag wobble is it hanging or binding up the slide while cycling. If that isn’t a issue then I could careless on the mag wobble. Like everything with PSA QC will make or break this gun. I feel they have a good warranty department so if it does brake they will make it right. And if the price goes for more than $399 in the current climate it would be a hard pass for me personally. At that point you have many more competitive options that are proven. Originally Posted By swampfoxoutdoors: Originally Posted By ag04blast: Neither of those issues seem like a big deal for a 299 dollar gun with good fit and finish. Particularly one that is likely designed to take an array of aftermarket mags and uses internals that are readily accessible for upgrades. I am more interested to see one of these shoot through 500 rounds or so. ....As well as being in stock so I can actually buy one. For $299 and going with the assumption that it’s 100% reliable I’d say it’s a real winner. My concern with mag wobble is it hanging or binding up the slide while cycling. If that isn’t a issue then I could careless on the mag wobble. Like everything with PSA QC will make or break this gun. I feel they have a good warranty department so if it does brake they will make it right. And if the price goes for more than $399 in the current climate it would be a hard pass for me personally. At that point you have many more competitive options that are proven. Agreed. I appreciate the early reviews, keep the updates coming when you get to shoot it. |
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Originally Posted By sixgunsblazing: Ummmmm Fyi... Edit, That was quick Sold out that batch in 6 minutes yeah, talk about frusterating.. whats even more is that the "notify me when back in stock" didnt work.. never got a notification, and missed it entirely, even though ive been checking randomly constantly lately. so disappointing. @palmettostatearmory this is what i was afraid of.. :( missing out again. |
"Stand your ground. Don't Fire unless Fired upon. But if they mean to have a war, Let it begin here." - Capt. John Parker
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Originally Posted By GamecockOperator: yeah, talk about frusterating.. whats even more is that the "notify me when back in stock" didnt work.. never got a notification, and missed it entirely, even though ive been checking randomly constantly lately. so disappointing. @palmettostatearmory this is what i was afraid of.. :( missing out again. If you join the dagger facebook group Chad told everyone when it was dropping |
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Watched them last night. The magazine was really troubling since it did it on back to back loads. Maybe a bad PMAG? It's unimaginable anything like that could make it through the rigorous testing they've put that pistol design through. It's put me back on the sidelines until we see more data points. And I want to buy 2 or 3 at that price! I could get over the trigger. But I'm not going to risk a magazine falling out of the gun if my life is on the line. Hopefully, just a one time crazy situation. The trigger pin situation, that seems a lot more 'one off' to me. |
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Man, that really is troubling. Extra fishy because they didn’t make Brian Blue delete his other old shooting videos. Seems like it’s specifically a dagger thing. I’d like to hear what Josiah/PSA has to say about this, but I doubt they would comment on such a matter. |
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Originally Posted By NiveaMensLotion: Man, that really is troubling. Extra fishy because they didn’t make Brian Blue delete his other old shooting videos. Seems like it’s specifically a dagger thing. I’d like to hear what Josiah/PSA has to say about this, but I doubt they would comment on such a matter. Originally Posted By NiveaMensLotion: Originally Posted By wickedbeernut: Originally Posted By wickedbeernut: The YouTube videos are being deleted as fast as they drop. In Brian Blue's second YouTube video, the Magpul PMAG magazine kept falling out of his Dagger and the slide would fail to lock back following the last round. Of course, as with others, he expressed concern with the trigger along with other potential issues. Brian has since deleted both of his YouTube videos. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/348220/Brian_Blue_png-1949280.JPG Man, that really is troubling. Extra fishy because they didn’t make Brian Blue delete his other old shooting videos. Seems like it’s specifically a dagger thing. I’d like to hear what Josiah/PSA has to say about this, but I doubt they would comment on such a matter. He knows why it was taken down and is trying to infer we had something to do with it. He used his departments range and video equipment to do the review which is against department policy. He is not allowed to do this and he was fully aware. His department gave him a slap on the wrist and told him to take it down. He is trying to make it look like it is our fault. |
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Originally Posted By Jman_JJE: He knows why it was taken down and is trying to infer we had something to do with it. He used his departments range and video equipment to do the review which is against department policy. He is not allowed to do this and he was fully aware. His department gave him a slap on the wrist and told him to take it down. He is trying to make it look like it is our fault. Then sue him and his department.....use the money to make more so I can buy one 
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Originally Posted By Jman_JJE: He knows why it was taken down and is trying to infer we had something to do with it. He used his departments range and video equipment to do the review which is against department policy. He is not allowed to do this and he was fully aware. His department gave him a slap on the wrist and told him to take it down. He is trying to make it look like it is our fault. Thanks for the clarification, I appreciate you taking the time to respond. I know my posts here aren’t very positive, but I do hope this Dagger project works out well. I’d love to buy one after production smooths out. |
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Does anyone know if PSA ended up going with 416 steel for the Dagger slide or did they shell out for 416R or even 17-4? Last fall articles at that time mentioned it was only going to be 416 steel but haven't seen any new articles since the release. Sooch's video doesn't mention what it's made out of. The website isn't clear about it either. |
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Originally Posted By wickedbeernut: @Jman_JJE, It's a little unclear to me why the reason Briar Blue was forced to take down his YouTube videos should matter. It appeared to me that Brian offered a fair and unbiased review of the Dagger. The Magpul PMAG magazine sold with the Dagger literally fell out. Not once, but twice. Brian also reported (in addition to other issues) the slide failed to lock back following the last round. These two issues are likely related. As I've said on other social media forums, I'd encourage PSA to reach out to Brian (possibly via YouTube). Even if PSA wasn't involved in Brian having to take down his YouTube videos, he took the time to share his experience with the Dagger. I think PSA should proactively help him address the issues he reported. Why should it matter that he used the department range after hours to uncover issues with the Dagger? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/348220/abc_png-1951161.JPG Originally Posted By wickedbeernut: Originally Posted By Jman_JJE: He knows why it was taken down and is trying to infer we had something to do with it. He used his departments range and video equipment to do the review which is against department policy. He is not allowed to do this and he was fully aware. His department gave him a slap on the wrist and told him to take it down. He is trying to make it look like it is our fault. It's a little unclear to me why the reason Briar Blue was forced to take down his YouTube videos should matter. It appeared to me that Brian offered a fair and unbiased review of the Dagger. The Magpul PMAG magazine sold with the Dagger literally fell out. Not once, but twice. Brian also reported (in addition to other issues) the slide failed to lock back following the last round. These two issues are likely related. As I've said on other social media forums, I'd encourage PSA to reach out to Brian (possibly via YouTube). Even if PSA wasn't involved in Brian having to take down his YouTube videos, he took the time to share his experience with the Dagger. I think PSA should proactively help him address the issues he reported. Why should it matter that he used the department range after hours to uncover issues with the Dagger? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/348220/abc_png-1951161.JPG It’s very clear to you and him why his department made him take down the video. He violated his departments use policy. He knows that and you know that. After he got is hand slapped by his department he tried to act like we were the reason it was taken down from YouTube. He was not honest with the public about the reason and tried to blame it on us. If he is going to lie in public and infer that we had the video taken down he is a dishonest and untrustworthy person. He most likely has some sort of agenda whether personal or another company. We may file a complaint with his department over his dishonest statements that we were the cause of the video being taken down. He is an untrustworthy person who violated department policy that he was fully aware of for personal gain, we will not be working with someone in any project with low integrity. ETA: I will personally be filing a complaint against him with the department for misappropriation of government property and integrity violations. I have 24 years of military experience and do not feel that anyone with this level of integrity should be serving the public or trusted with their funds. The units I was in would have severely disciplined him and I believe the same is in order here. |
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Originally Posted By Jman_JJE: It’s very clear to you and him why his department made him take down the video. He violated his departments use policy. He knows that and you know that. After he got is hand slapped by his department he tried to act like we had it taken down by YouTube and you tried to infer that despite both of you knowing the reason. He was not honest with the public about the reason and tried to blame it on us. If he is going to lie in public and infer that we had the video taken down he is a dishonest and untrustworthy person. He most likely has some sort of agenda whether personal or another company. We may file a complaint with his department over his dishonest statements that we were the cause of the video being taken down. He is an untrustworthy person who violated department policy that he was fully aware of for personal gain, we will not be working with someone in any project with low integrity. Originally Posted By Jman_JJE: Originally Posted By wickedbeernut: Originally Posted By Jman_JJE: He knows why it was taken down and is trying to infer we had something to do with it. He used his departments range and video equipment to do the review which is against department policy. He is not allowed to do this and he was fully aware. His department gave him a slap on the wrist and told him to take it down. He is trying to make it look like it is our fault. It's a little unclear to me why the reason Briar Blue was forced to take down his YouTube videos should matter. It appeared to me that Brian offered a fair and unbiased review of the Dagger. The Magpul PMAG magazine sold with the Dagger literally fell out. Not once, but twice. Brian also reported (in addition to other issues) the slide failed to lock back following the last round. These two issues are likely related. As I've said on other social media forums, I'd encourage PSA to reach out to Brian (possibly via YouTube). Even if PSA wasn't involved in Brian having to take down his YouTube videos, he took the time to share his experience with the Dagger. I think PSA should proactively help him address the issues he reported. Why should it matter that he used the department range after hours to uncover issues with the Dagger? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/348220/abc_png-1951161.JPG It’s very clear to you and him why his department made him take down the video. He violated his departments use policy. He knows that and you know that. After he got is hand slapped by his department he tried to act like we had it taken down by YouTube and you tried to infer that despite both of you knowing the reason. He was not honest with the public about the reason and tried to blame it on us. If he is going to lie in public and infer that we had the video taken down he is a dishonest and untrustworthy person. He most likely has some sort of agenda whether personal or another company. We may file a complaint with his department over his dishonest statements that we were the cause of the video being taken down. He is an untrustworthy person who violated department policy that he was fully aware of for personal gain, we will not be working with someone in any project with low integrity. Who is we? PSA? |
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Originally Posted By atavistic: Originally Posted By Jman_JJE: ETA: I will personally be filing a complaint against him with the department for misappropriation of government property and integrity violations. I have 24 years of military experience and do not feel that anyone with this level of integrity should be serving the public or trusted with their funds. The units I was in would have severely disciplined him and I believe the same is in order here. |
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NERD IWB PALMETTO STATE ARMORY DAGR HOLSTER - RIGHT HAND, BLACK "currently the ONLY holster designed specifically for the PSA Dagger!" |
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Originally Posted By wickedbeernut: NERD IWB PALMETTO STATE ARMORY DAGR HOLSTER - RIGHT HAND, BLACK "currently the ONLY holster designed specifically for the PSA Dagger!" https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/348220/Nerd_png-1952772.JPG my mood is muted if it will not fit a G19 holster |
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Fits safariland ALS, a bit tight.. Attached File |
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Fits Tenicore Certum Lux, a bit tight Attached File |
I always thought the point of freedom and liberty was to avoid letting morons fuck up your life instead of their own?
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Originally Posted By MRW: sooo, does this mean it is the only holster the Dagger will fit? my mood is muted if it will not fit a G19 holster The feedback customers have been giving us is that the Dagger has fit most of the Glock 19 holsters they have. Some are tighter than others, but they do fit. Thank you, Josiah |
Palmetto State Armory
200 Business Park Blvd
Columbia, SC 29203
Web Sales: 1-803-724-6950
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200 Business Park Blvd
Columbia, SC 29203
Web Sales: 1-803-724-6950
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| Very good! Waiting for the Optics ready Dagger |
Don't be so open-minded that your brains fall out.
General education should not be mere job training, but training in how to be fully human.
https://www.memoriapress.com/articles/the-four-causes-of-classical-education/
General education should not be mere job training, but training in how to be fully human.
https://www.memoriapress.com/articles/the-four-causes-of-classical-education/
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Originally Posted By GamecockOperator: yeah, talk about frusterating.. whats even more is that the "notify me when back in stock" didnt work.. never got a notification, and missed it entirely, even though ive been checking randomly constantly lately. so disappointing. @palmettostatearmory this is what i was afraid of.. :( missing out again. Originally Posted By GamecockOperator: Originally Posted By sixgunsblazing: Ummmmm Fyi... Edit, That was quick Sold out that batch in 6 minutes yeah, talk about frusterating.. whats even more is that the "notify me when back in stock" didnt work.. never got a notification, and missed it entirely, even though ive been checking randomly constantly lately. so disappointing. @palmettostatearmory this is what i was afraid of.. :( missing out again. Yeah, the lack of notification was frustrating. At this point, I have the page on my phone and I'll refresh it every hour or so throughout the day in the hope I can catch one. Good luck. 
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Morning update: movement noticed on the website. The page I had been watching https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-dagger-9mm-compact-pistol-black-black-910111111.html went 404 today. Now https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-dagger-compact-9mm-pistol-black.html is listed (and the only one listed), but still out of stock. I'm going to keep refreshing the page, as a window may be opening soon. |
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Originally Posted By ziegenbock: They changed that a couple days ago. I've done the "email when available" about 5 times, since we were able....I've NEVER gotten a fucking email on it. Does PSA test their website to make sure it works? In order for the in-stock notifier to trigger, the product has to be in stock a certain amount of time.(I believe an hour) As supply and demand meet, they will become easier to get. Thank you, Josiah |
Palmetto State Armory
200 Business Park Blvd
Columbia, SC 29203
Web Sales: 1-803-724-6950
[email protected]
200 Business Park Blvd
Columbia, SC 29203
Web Sales: 1-803-724-6950
[email protected]