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1/18/2021 7:21:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By NiveaMensLotion: Pretty easy to give away “free” lowers now that they’re charging more than double the old price for them lol.
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But wait ... PSA "exist(s) for common use, not for profit", right?

Youtube:  Palmetto State Armory PSAK-E, PSA5, PS9 Dagger, PSA JAKL - SHOT Show 2020
1/20/2021 3:11:15 PM EDT
[#2]
weird my thread got deleted.
just ordered some more stuff from you guys today.
thanks
3/18/2021 1:21:41 AM EDT
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3/18/2021 10:42:11 PM EDT
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#METOO

NorCal_LEO Callsign - "10-Ring"

Sylvan: "That awkward moment when a tranny is beating your fucking ass on a livestream while calling you a faggot."
3/20/2021 7:24:02 PM EDT
[#5]
2Q 2022
3/20/2021 8:52:37 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By UrbancommandoX:2Q 2022
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PSA will ship the PS9 DAGR / Dagger orders placed on September 18, 2020 on April 1, 2021.
3/22/2021 12:57:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By wickedbeernut:
PSA will ship the PS9 DAGR / Dagger orders placed on September 18, 2020 on April 1, 2021.
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Source?
3/22/2021 2:38:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By wickedbeernut:
PSA will ship the PS9 DAGR / Dagger orders placed on September 18, 2020 on April 1, 2021.


Source?

Dude you’re killing us. 😂
3/22/2021 8:00:30 PM EDT
[#9]
Ok now that I've sobered up I can make the dolan-tier meme properly

3/22/2021 8:34:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By wickedbeernut:
PSA will ship the PS9 DAGR / Dagger orders placed on September 18, 2020 on April 1, 2021.
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Originally Posted By wickedbeernut:
Originally Posted By UrbancommandoX:2Q 2022
PSA will ship the PS9 DAGR / Dagger orders placed on September 18, 2020 on April 1, 2021.


They just order the out of spec parts from p80 or the glock store?
3/22/2021 9:17:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By UrbancommandoX:


They just order the out of spec parts from p80 or the glock store?
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Originally Posted By UrbancommandoX:
Originally Posted By wickedbeernut:
Originally Posted By UrbancommandoX:2Q 2022
PSA will ship the PS9 DAGR / Dagger orders placed on September 18, 2020 on April 1, 2021.


They just order the out of spec parts from p80 or the glock store?

Again. 🤦‍♂️ Read the post. Very carefully. It will ship.  APRIL. 1st
3/25/2021 2:29:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By forgottenben:

Again. 🤦‍♂️ Read the post. Very carefully. It will ship.  APRIL. 1st
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Originally Posted By forgottenben:
Originally Posted By UrbancommandoX:
Originally Posted By wickedbeernut:
Originally Posted By UrbancommandoX:2Q 2022
PSA will ship the PS9 DAGR / Dagger orders placed on September 18, 2020 on April 1, 2021.


They just order the out of spec parts from p80 or the glock store?

Again. 🤦‍♂️ Read the post. Very carefully. It will ship.  APRIL. 1st



Again they didnt ship because of out of spec parts that they couldnt source. So read the joke again🤦🏻‍♂️
3/28/2021 9:12:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CXZ0921:


That's what I assumed all along especially with other companies like Shadow Systems selling their own version for about twice the price of a Glock.

Main differences visually are the slide/stippling otherwise they look similar.

Magill Glock Store had issues with their versions about 2 years ago and again this year.  They included a free magazine for the trouble.




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yall are both wrong.

its a psa made gun, however by PSA made, i mean psa and its sister companies.  Not just PSA proper.  By sister companies, i mean the other companies in the umbrella of companies owned by JJE Capital, which owns PSA and its sister companies.  I've toured some of the sister companies that are machining parts, for all things psa and lead star etc, and i can tell you that its not a franken gun by other companies. rest assured there.
"Stand your ground. Don't Fire unless Fired upon. But if they mean to have a war, Let it begin here." - Capt. John Parker
3/29/2021 8:59:11 PM EDT
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My lower arrived at the dealer 2/23 lol. They never contacted me and I found out by emailing PSA. Will pick up on Wed. Also no updates regarding the shipment of the PSA 9mm Dagger pistol per the email reply.

3/29/2021 10:48:46 PM EDT
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So, are they going to fill these orders and kill it? Jack the price to Glock levels? We're getting into the 2Q21 timeline, FWIW. Pandemic and supplies not withstanding, we've seen
• amazing inflation on lowers and a dearth of new meme lowers
• possible death of MP5
• monster delay of everything else
Since Shot 2020, everything has fallen to crap. They kind of promised the world, and it all fell to hell. Now, mostly silence.
3/30/2021 12:07:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By atavistic:
So, are they going to fill these orders and kill it? Jack the price to Glock levels? We're getting into the 2Q21 timeline, FWIW. Pandemic and supplies not withstanding, we've seen
• amazing inflation on lowers and a dearth of new meme lowers
• possible death of MP5
• monster delay of everything else
Since Shot 2020, everything has fallen to crap. They kind of promised the world, and it all fell to hell. Now, mostly silence.
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I wouldn't say it is mostly silence. I would say it is all of us working behind the scenes 24/7 during the busiest time our industry has ever seen to put out current product and new product. We are producing 11K AR lowers and 10K AR uppers per week let alone AK's, let alone working on the Dagger, the Jakl, etc.... We are doing the best we can during these times to bring you as much product as we can as well as continue R&D on new products.

Thank you,

Josiah
Palmetto State Armory
200 Business Park Blvd
Columbia, SC 29203
Web Sales: 1-803-724-6950
[email protected]
3/30/2021 5:40:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory:


I wouldn't say it is mostly silence. I would say it is all of us working behind the scenes 24/7 during the busiest time our industry has ever seen to put out current product and new product. We are producing 11K AR lowers and 10K AR uppers per week let alone AK's, let alone working on the Dagger, the Jakl, etc.... We are doing the best we can during these times to bring you as much product as we can as well as continue R&D on new products.

Thank you,

Josiah
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Originally Posted By atavistic:
So, are they going to fill these orders and kill it? Jack the price to Glock levels? We're getting into the 2Q21 timeline, FWIW. Pandemic and supplies not withstanding, we've seen
• amazing inflation on lowers and a dearth of new meme lowers
• possible death of MP5
• monster delay of everything else
Since Shot 2020, everything has fallen to crap. They kind of promised the world, and it all fell to hell. Now, mostly silence.


I wouldn't say it is mostly silence. I would say it is all of us working behind the scenes 24/7 during the busiest time our industry has ever seen to put out current product and new product. We are producing 11K AR lowers and 10K AR uppers per week let alone AK's, let alone working on the Dagger, the Jakl, etc.... We are doing the best we can during these times to bring you as much product as we can as well as continue R&D on new products.

Thank you,

Josiah

Not trying to bust you or your coworkers balls. Covid hit us all.

But I think its a legitimate question - Does the DAGR have a long term future? Maybe with the changes and pricing adjustments, it won't be $299 anymore (duh!) Maybe at this point someone says, 'Let's fill these orders and move toward building something we can do better with.' Maybe not. A $499, for example, DAGR is a lot less exciting.

Objectively speaking, Shot 2020 had an amazingly aggressively agenda of product launches (many of which you guys have pulled together). And that was before the purchase of Parker, DPMS, AAC, H&R, etc. I'm sure you guys are busy laying the plans for the next 18-24 months against the backdrop of a very unfriendly administration. It just sucks waiting for product for a year (DAGR) and not really knowing if it's going to happen. And we won't even talk about the '5' product.

AFRCOMM bitches about PSA all the time. But we still buy a crapload of your products, so it's not all bad!
4/1/2021 11:27:51 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By atavistic:

Not trying to bust you or your coworkers balls. Covid hit us all.

But I think its a legitimate question - Does the DAGR have a long term future? Maybe with the changes and pricing adjustments, it won't be $299 anymore (duh!) Maybe at this point someone says, 'Let's fill these orders and move toward building something we can do better with.' Maybe not. A $499, for example, DAGR is a lot less exciting.

Objectively speaking, Shot 2020 had an amazingly aggressively agenda of product launches (many of which you guys have pulled together). And that was before the purchase of Parker, DPMS, AAC, H&R, etc. I'm sure you guys are busy laying the plans for the next 18-24 months against the backdrop of a very unfriendly administration. It just sucks waiting for product for a year (DAGR) and not really knowing if it's going to happen. And we won't even talk about the '5' product.

AFRCOMM bitches about PSA all the time. But we still buy a crapload of your products, so it's not all bad!
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The Dagger will still be $299 for the base model.

Thank you,

Josiah
Palmetto State Armory
200 Business Park Blvd
Columbia, SC 29203
Web Sales: 1-803-724-6950
[email protected]
4/1/2021 11:55:35 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory:


The Dagger will still be $299 for the base model.

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Josiah
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That is good news. Many companies would try to take advantage of the current market. I will def get one when available.  I realize many here want these badly, but i am in no hurry.  Probably going to be really hard to get these the first year they are available anyway, unless production is really ramped up
4/1/2021 11:57:22 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By everready73:

That is good news. Many companies would try to take advantage of the current market. I will def get one when available.  I realize many here want these badly, but i am in no hurry.  Probably going to be really hard to get these the first year they are available anyway, unless production is really ramped up
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technically, the  first year has already passed...
4/1/2021 2:46:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By everready73:

That is good news. Many companies would try to take advantage of the current market. I will def get one when available.  I realize many here want these badly, but i am in no hurry.  Probably going to be really hard to get these the first year they are available anyway, unless production is really ramped up
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Hell they can say whatever low price they want but if its not in stock and shipping what does it matter?

PSA you might as well say they are $50.00 lol
4/2/2021 10:07:59 AM EDT
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I'm impresed PSA will continue to honor the $299.99 price tag on the DAGR base model considering most of their rifles have doubled in price in the last year.  I assume PSA will also maintain the $349.99 and $99.99 price tags on the DAGR RMR-cut model (with suppressor-height sights and threaded barrel) and the complete frame, respectively.

I guess it makes sense since PSA is a "not for profit" company.

Does anyone know (approximately) how many DAGR's PSA sold on September 18?  Was it 100?  1,000?   10,000?  Has PSA said how many DAGR's they plan to sell in 2021?  2022?
4/3/2021 3:21:47 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By wickedbeernut:
I'm impresed PSA will continue to honor the $299.99 price tag on the DAGR base model considering most of their rifles have doubled in price in the last year.  I assume PSA will also maintain the $349.99 and $99.99 price tags on the DAGR RMR-cut model (with suppressor-height sights and threaded barrel) and the complete frame, respectively.

I guess it makes sense since PSA is a "not for profit" company.

Does anyone know (approximately) how many DAGR's PSA sold on September 18?  Was it 100?  1,000?   10,000?  Has PSA said how many DAGR's they plan to sell in 2021?  2022?
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I’m not sure this won’t be like the mp5. I was ecstatic to buy one last year.
4/9/2021 6:46:59 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By wickedbeernut:
PSA will ship the PS9 DAGR / Dagger orders placed on September 18, 2020 on April 1, 2021.
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Originally Posted By wickedbeernut:
Originally Posted By UrbancommandoX:2Q 2022
PSA will ship the PS9 DAGR / Dagger orders placed on September 18, 2020 on April 1, 2021.


How did that work out for ya?
4/9/2021 9:06:51 AM EDT
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I was part of the PSA FB group on but have since deleted my FB account,  any recent updates?


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How did that work out for ya?
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Originally Posted By wickedbeernut:
Originally Posted By UrbancommandoX:2Q 2022
PSA will ship the PS9 DAGR / Dagger orders placed on September 18, 2020 on April 1, 2021.


How did that work out for ya?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_Fools
4/9/2021 10:33:12 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By XeonEvolved: I was part of the PSA FB group on but have since deleted my FB account,  any recent updates?
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Originally Posted By XeonEvolved: I was part of the PSA FB group on but have since deleted my FB account,  any recent updates?
They banned me from the Facebook group when I pointed out they'd trademarked the acronym "DAGR" twice (first as the "Palmetto DAGR" and later as the "PS9 DAGR").  They've yet to trademark the name "Dagger".  

Speaking of April Fools, has the PSA web site Dagger page always stated, "Due to unprecedented demand, these Pistols are currently in production and are expected to ship out within 10-15 business days."?

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4/9/2021 11:28:25 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By wickedbeernut:
They banned me from the Facebook group when I pointed out they'd trademarked the acronym "DAGR" twice (first as the "Palmetto DAGR" and later as the "PS9 DAGR").  They've yet to trademark the name "Dagger".  

Speaking of April Fools, has the PSA web site Dagger page always stated, "Due to unprecedented demand, these Pistols are currently in production and are expected to ship out within 10-15 business days."?

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Yes, yes it has.
4/9/2021 1:47:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By UrbancommandoX:



Again they didnt ship because of out of spec parts that they couldnt source. So read the joke again🤦🏻‍♂️
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Apparently you’re unfamiliar with April fools.
4/23/2021 2:18:45 AM EDT
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Got my AR lower but now my ffl is in the middle of moving and doesn’t want to do transfers for a couple months. Called PSA to arrange for a new ffl but there’s still no news. We are past the 90 days we last got when they offered the free lower.
4/23/2021 9:08:03 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By sigsauer_pdx:
Got my AR lower but now my ffl is in the middle of moving and doesn’t want to do transfers for a couple months. Called PSA to arrange for a new ffl but there’s still no news. We are past the 90 days we last got when they offered the free lower.
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Does the FFL have the lower, or is it still awaiting shipment?

Thank you,

Josiah
Palmetto State Armory
200 Business Park Blvd
Columbia, SC 29203
Web Sales: 1-803-724-6950
[email protected]
4/23/2021 11:03:24 AM EDT
[#31]
I got my lower from my ffl. I was able to get with customer service and change the ffl so that the dagger doesn’t get returned in case he’s not accepting at the time. Thanks for checking in.
4/24/2021 9:56:11 AM EDT
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Any update on these?
5/6/2021 4:47:45 PM EDT
[#33]
Anyone else get this email? I received my lower but did not cancel my order.

Hello tkff,Per your request, your order has been cancelled. You should receive a full refund within 5-7 business days. If you have any questions or concerns regarding your cancellation, please contact us.
Thank you for choosing Palmetto State Armory.


Best Regards,


Jessica
Palmetto State Armory Customer Service
5/6/2021 10:09:53 PM EDT
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PSA throwing in the towel?

That would be disheartening, to say the least. That would be the Dagger and MP5, and no JAKLs in sight.
5/6/2021 10:24:54 PM EDT
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spoke with a rep and was told it was sent in error, and they start shipping monday, which was confirmed on their FB page.
5/7/2021 10:37:57 AM EDT
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I saw on Facebook these are Shipping 5/10.  At least the ones already ordered.  Not sure if they are going to have more to sell than what is backordered though
5/7/2021 3:49:54 PM EDT
[#37]
Maybe a Memorial Day Official (re)Launch? And an Open Carry Meme lower.
5/10/2021 9:11:59 PM EDT
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PSA throwing in the towel?

That would be disheartening, to say the least. That would be the Dagger and MP5, and no JAKLs in sight.
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not happening.

the dagger will be here sooner than we realize.. then the mp5 yeah its on. a delayed hiatus, but itll get there one day i have faith.. the jakl's are also being developed on time, so keep the faith, befor you konow it we'll have the Daggers in our hands!
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5/10/2021 11:02:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By everready73: I saw on Facebook these are Shipping 5/10.  At least the ones already ordered.  Not sure if they are going to have more to sell than what is backordered though
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Any word on when they'll offer the RMR-cut slide model with suppressor-height sights and threaded barrel for $349.99?  What about the complete frame for $99.99?  80% frame?
5/11/2021 8:24:47 AM EDT
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not happening.

the dagger will be here sooner than we realize.. then the mp5 yeah its on. a delayed hiatus, but itll get there one day i have faith.. the jakl's are also being developed on time, so keep the faith, befor you konow it we'll have the Daggers in our hands!
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I’m not quite sure you understand what the term on time means.
5/11/2021 11:52:24 AM EDT
[#41]
If they are being shipped now, we should be seeing some real world reviews/initial impressions by the weekend.

Lurking.
5/11/2021 7:44:33 PM EDT
[#42]
No gas to deliver them
5/12/2021 12:14:13 AM EDT
[#43]
mine shipped today.
5/12/2021 7:16:32 PM EDT
[#44]
Well boys...   It's here!

5/12/2021 10:12:21 PM EDT
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Well? We're waiting.

Dry fire trigger feel? General fit and finish? Rack and magazine feel and tightness? Everything true? Etc?
5/13/2021 8:57:23 PM EDT
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Well? We're waiting.

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It isn't my preferred style of trigger, but it felt fine on the dry fire.  The fit and finish are honestly really impressive.  All the employees at my FFL were gushing over it and asking to check it out and get a feel for it as well.  One's jaw dropped when she heard what it sold for considering how quality it looked and felt in her hands.  I wish I could get really detailed for it, but I won't be able to post a more comprehensive review for it until this weekend at least.  

The government is out to ruin my fun.  Picked up another gun like three weeks ago, and I was in and out.  Try to pick up the gun I bought 9 months ago yesterday?  Of course -that's- when they put a delay on my paperwork.  If I could really put it through the paces then I would have posted more details.  But, worry not, I will give you more detailed opinions of it as soon as I can get it home!

That being said...  I think it is telling that people who spend all day selling guns were in love with it and asking if I knew when they were going back on sale...  ;)
5/13/2021 9:01:54 PM EDT
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Buddy got his today. So far I’m not impressed.

The trigger is nice and wide and feels good.

The trigger pull on the other hand is pretty terrible. Long and creepy. Makes a stock Glock trigger look like something from a custom shop.

It ships with a Pmag and while inserted in the gun rattles bad. Like the magwell is cut way to big. Will try and get a video. And will try actual Glock mags.

The polymer it’s made of feels really nice.

Slide looked fine all edges seemed very sharp.


He was initial promised a threaded barrel upgrade. PSA did not ship it.

PSA also promised the free AR lower for the huge cluster they had with this. PSA also forgot to send that as well.


So not sure how many months it’s been but let’s say 4-6 months later he got a sub par Glock and nothing else he was promised. Lol

He had bought a G19 after the initial failed launch of the Dagger. So he has a gun just wanted to stick with this to see what PSA brings to the table. Hopefully they will make it right.


I’d say don’t buy one until they hit Gen 2-3.
5/13/2021 9:11:32 PM EDT
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Buddy got his today. So far I’m not impressed.

The trigger is nice and wide and feels good.

The trigger pull on the other hand is pretty terrible. Long and creepy. Makes a stock Glock trigger look like something from a custom shop.

It ships with a Pmag and while inserted in the gun rattles bad. Like the magwell is cut way to big. Will try and get a video. And will try actual Glock mags.

The polymer it’s made of feels really nice.

Slide looked fine all edges seemed very sharp.


He was initial promised a threaded barrel upgrade. PSA did not ship it.

PSA also promised the free AR lower for the huge cluster they had with this. PSA also forgot to send that as well.


So not sure how many months it’s been but let’s say 4-6 months later he got a sub par Glock and nothing else he was promised. Lol

He had bought a G19 after the initial failed launch of the Dagger. So he has a gun just wanted to stick with this to see what PSA brings to the table. Hopefully they will make it right.


I’d say don’t buy one until they hit Gen 2-3.
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Ummm...  The stripped receivers were shipped separately and a while back.  I was one of the last people to get mine shipped because of two mix ups with customer service, and I still got mine 3-4 weeks ago.   Also, they sent out an email stating that the threaded barrels (which were always going to be supplied along with the normal barrels) were still going through quality control inspections and would be shipped afterwards directly to the customers.

Your friend needs to check with his FFL to see if he has had a lower sitting around in the back for a while.
5/13/2021 10:20:05 PM EDT
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Ummm...  The stripped receivers were shipped separately and a while back.  I was one of the last people to get mine shipped because of two mix ups with customer service, and I still got mine 3-4 weeks ago.   Also, they sent out an email stating that the threaded barrels (which were always going to be supplied along with the normal barrels) were still going through quality control inspections and would be shipped afterwards directly to the customers.

Your friend needs to check with his FFL to see if he has had a lower sitting around in the back for a while.
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Yeah he did say the threaded barrel would be on hold. Our ffl never got the Reciver probably just overlooked by PSA.


Buddy brought the gun over to the house just now. And we looked it over compared to a G19.

I’ll have to say it does feel better than My G19. Fits my hand much better.

The trigger is bad tho. We took the gun apart and it appears to be some sort of blues or phosphate trigger bar. I think that’s what’s causing the grittiness. I’d say with some polish that can be easily fixed.

Slide bluing and internals all look nicely machined.

Polymer does feel better than my glocks.

Badness

The magwell wobble seems to be pretty bad. As long  as it functions I guess it would be fine. Just need to put some rounds thru it now.

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Showing mag wobble and gritty trigger. Once again I think the trigger can be fixed easy.

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