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Originally Posted By mettee:
So if todd is booked who is teaching this? maybe a dumb Q Originally Posted By mettee:
Originally Posted By Defender3:
I think we select the dates and lock them in. Then we send our money to secure a slot, so basically, yes. All the Accuracy 1st courses are booked well in advance with payment required to secure a slot. They may do things a bit different. Where another vendor could open a class and overbook, A1st limits slots to first come, first served. They fill fast and Todd is actually booked through next summer. Course Synopsis Lightfighter Pete Gould Comments |
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I'm still in with Pete teaching the class. I doubt Todd would have someone on his staff that was anything but a stellar instructor....not to mention 30 years at the tip of the spear.
Am I kinda an ass for not wanting a TON of people in our class? |
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Originally Posted By dHUTCH:
I'm still in with Pete teaching the class. I doubt Todd would have someone on his staff that was anything but a stellar instructor....not to mention 30 years at the tip of the spear. Am I kinda an ass for not wanting a TON of people in our class? |
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Originally Posted By dHUTCH:
I'm still in with Pete teaching the class. I doubt Todd would have someone on his staff that was anything but a stellar instructor....not to mention 30 years at the tip of the spear. Am I kinda an ass for not wanting a TON of people in our class? |
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I'll keep the updates here in the thread for now. Once we get 7 people and details / payment needed, I'll move to PMs.
Here's where we're at: 1. Accuracy 1st Long Range 2 Class. 2. Pete Gould suggested a 3-day course since there is so much information to cover and a third day would give us more shooting time. Appears the hive currently prefers the 3-day course. 3. Course could be M-W, 27-29 November, 2017; or possibly T-Th, 28-30 November, 2017. 4. Cost will be $1050 for the 3-days, plus any transportation costs, lodging and food. I'm sure we can double up, share cars, eat only Spam and expired MREs, etc. 5. I do not know if this would be at the Austin Gun Club or the Clarendon facilities, but each is basically in Austin, TX. 6. Instructor will be Pete Gould, who is Todd's lead instructor. 7. Course is limited to 7 people, we may be able to go to 8, but for now, it's 7 people. 8. From the Accuracy 1st site - "Refund & Cancellation Policy: There will be no charge for rescheduling your class to a different date (where available). For cancellations a 10% charge will be incurred, if it is less than 2 weeks prior to class, there will be a 50% charge." I DO NOT know the policy for a special class, but we can start with their standard policy. 9. Course is NOT limited to people with LaRue 260 rifles, it was just a thought since we were discussing in the .260 thread. 10. I do not have any lodging or local transportation information, yet. I believe we have the following people committed (I'll update as needed): 1. D3. 2. MikeiinNC. 3. dHUTCH. 4. OPEN. 5. OPEN. 6. OPEN. 7. OPEN. 8. TBD if needed. |
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Originally Posted By dHUTCH:
Tue-Thur would be terrible for me. |
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Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
I don't have a 260 (or a large frame AR for that matter)........can I show up with a Red Ryder?  
According to the A1st web site, you can shoot their rifles, which just might be LaRue 7.62 OBRs and tOBRs. 
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
If you're paying, I personally don't care what you bring. What you shoot could be a different story.
According to the A1st web site, you can shoot their rifles, which just might be LaRue 7.62 OBRs and tOBRs. Originally Posted By Defender3:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
I don't have a 260 (or a large frame AR for that matter)........can I show up with a Red Ryder?
According to the A1st web site, you can shoot their rifles, which just might be LaRue 7.62 OBRs and tOBRs.
Would be fun to do something like that, but I have nothing worthy of shooting those distances. And I'm broke.
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Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
DEAL!!
Would be fun to do something like that, but I have nothing worthy of shooting those distances. And I'm broke. Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By Defender3:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
I don't have a 260 (or a large frame AR for that matter)........can I show up with a Red Ryder?
According to the A1st web site, you can shoot their rifles, which just might be LaRue 7.62 OBRs and tOBRs.
Would be fun to do something like that, but I have nothing worthy of shooting those distances. And I'm broke.
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
Well, you know the old ARF saying, "go be poor somewhere else." Originally Posted By Defender3:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By Defender3:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
I don't have a 260 (or a large frame AR for that matter)........can I show up with a Red Ryder?
According to the A1st web site, you can shoot their rifles, which just might be LaRue 7.62 OBRs and tOBRs.
Would be fun to do something like that, but I have nothing worthy of shooting those distances. And I'm broke. 
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
Terrible or a no-go? Are you driving? People flying in on a Sunday could be in the Thanksgiving end of holiday air travel mess. |
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Originally Posted By dHUTCH:
Probably a no go. I'm not going to take 3 vacation days in the middle of the week and work Mon/Fri. I'm also not going to burn a full week of vacation for a 3 day rifle course. |
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
I'll keep the updates here in the thread for now. Once we get 7 people and details / payment needed, I'll move to PMs. Here's where we're at: 1. Accuracy 1st Long Range 2 Class. 2. Pete Gould suggested a 3-day course since there is so much information to cover and a third day would give us more shooting time. Appears the hive currently prefers the 3-day course. 3. Course could be M-W, 27-29 November, 2017; or possibly T-Th, 28-30 November, 2017. 4. Cost will be $1050 for the 3-days, plus any transportation costs, lodging and food. I'm sure we can double up, share cars, eat only Spam and expired MREs, etc. 5. I do not know if this would be at the Austin Gun Club or the Clarendon facilities, but each is basically in Austin, TX. 6. Instructor will be Pete Gould, who is Todd's lead instructor. 7. Course is limited to 7 people, we may be able to go to 8, but for now, it's 7 people. 8. From the Accuracy 1st site - "Refund & Cancellation Policy: There will be no charge for rescheduling your class to a different date (where available). For cancellations a 10% charge will be incurred, if it is less than 2 weeks prior to class, there will be a 50% charge." I DO NOT know the policy for a special class, but we can start with their standard policy. 9. Course is NOT limited to people with LaRue 260 rifles, it was just a thought since we were discussing in the .260 thread. 10. I do not have any lodging or local transportation information, yet. I believe we have the following people committed (I'll update as needed): 1. D3. 2. MikeiinNC. 3. dHUTCH. 4. OPEN. 5. OPEN. 6. OPEN. 7. OPEN. 8. TBD if needed. |
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Originally Posted By Freakinout:
Clarendon facility is in the panhandle not near Austin. Probably need to fly into DFW, Dallas Love, or Lubbock International to for out of state'er |
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Originally Posted By dHUTCH:
Depending on if the class is near Austin or in the Panhandle, that can play a HUGE difference in what airport to fly into.
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
I sent a note to Pete. I'd hate to fly into the wrong airport and have to spend like 3-days driving around Texas........ |
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
Confirmed - the class will be at the Austin Gun Club - Lampasas, TX. |
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Originally Posted By Blaster7R:
How many rounds of ammo is suggested to taken for a 3 day class ? |
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
160 for the 2-day course, currently unknown for the 3-day course. Maybe if the majority of us are shooting H130s, we just have a 1,000 shipped to the AGC. Before this becomes a shit show and we are fighting for spots....what is this system gonna be? First 7 take the spots, and a second 7 members have to org their own class? We cant land this on D3 guys. Its not his responsibility |
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
I'll keep the updates here in the thread for now. Once we get 7 people and details / payment needed, I'll move to PMs. Here's where we're at: 1. Accuracy 1st Long Range 2 Class. 2. Pete Gould suggested a 3-day course since there is so much information to cover and a third day would give us more shooting time. Appears the hive currently prefers the 3-day course. 3. Course could be M-W, 27-29 November, 2017; or possibly T-Th, 28-30 November, 2017. 4. Cost will be $1050 for the 3-days, plus any transportation costs, lodging and food. I'm sure we can double up, share cars, eat only Spam and expired MREs, etc. 5. I do not know if this would be at the Austin Gun Club or the Clarendon facilities, but each is basically in Austin, TX. 6. Instructor will be Pete Gould, who is Todd's lead instructor. 7. Course is limited to 7 people, we may be able to go to 8, but for now, it's 7 people. 8. From the Accuracy 1st site - "Refund & Cancellation Policy: There will be no charge for rescheduling your class to a different date (where available). For cancellations a 10% charge will be incurred, if it is less than 2 weeks prior to class, there will be a 50% charge." I DO NOT know the policy for a special class, but we can start with their standard policy. 9. Course is NOT limited to people with LaRue 260 rifles, it was just a thought since we were discussing in the .260 thread. 10. I do not have any lodging or local transportation information, yet. I believe we have the following people committed (I'll update as needed): 1. D3. 2. MikeiinNC. 3. dHUTCH. 4. OPEN. 5. OPEN. 6. OPEN. 7. OPEN. 8. TBD if needed. |
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Originally Posted By mettee:
YES! the 3 day is approx 1050 each unless we add an 8th person correct? So, we need 7 confirmations. |
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Once we get 7 people and details / payment needed, I'll move to PMs. Here's where we're at: 1. Accuracy 1st Long Range 2 Class. 2. Pete Gould suggested a 3-day course since there is so much information to cover and a third day would give us more shooting time. Appears the hive currently prefers the 3-day course. UPDATE - WE HAVE A 3-DAY COURSE SCHEDULED. 3. Course could be M-W, 27-29 November, 2017; or possibly T-Th, 28-30 November, 2017. UPDATE - DATES LOCKED IN FOR MONDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY, 27-29 NOVEMBER, 2017. 4. Cost will be $1050 for the 3-days, plus any transportation costs, lodging and food. I'm sure we can double up, share cars, eat only Spam and expired MREs, etc. 5. I do not know if this would be at the Austin Gun Club or the Clarendon facilities, but each is basically in Austin, TX. UPDATE - COURSE WILL BE AT THE AUSTIN GUN CLUB, LAMPASAS, TX. 6. Instructor will be Pete Gould, who is Todd's lead instructor. 7. Course is limited to 7 people, we may be able to go to 8, but for now, it's 7 people. 8. From the Accuracy 1st site - "Refund & Cancellation Policy: There will be no charge for rescheduling your class to a different date (where available). For cancellations a 10% charge will be incurred, if it is less than 2 weeks prior to class, there will be a 50% charge." I DO NOT know the policy for a special class, but we can start with their standard policy. 9. Course is NOT limited to people with LaRue 260 rifles, it was just a thought since we were discussing in the .260 thread. 10. I do not have any lodging or local transportation information, yet. I believe we have the following people committed: UPDATE - LOOKS LIKE WE NEED 3 MORE PEOPLE. 1. D3. 2. MikeiinNC. 3. dHUTCH. 4. Mettee. 5. OPEN. 6. OPEN. 7. OPEN. 8. TBD if needed. |
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| Love the 260 but I've thrown the heaviest buffer I can find into it and it still won't run exactly like I want it to suppressed. Debating selling the tOBR with the 22" 260 and 18" 7.62 in lieu of a custom left hand bolt action. Has some knicks in the upper receiver where brass ejected into it. Any idea what the whole setup would be worth if I put it on gunbroker? I was thinking $3500 but would like some input. Still kicking the idea around cause I really don't want to get rid of it, but I'm getting tired of fighting the dang thing and sinking money into it to try to make it work. |
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Originally Posted By Joshpuh:
Love the 260 but I've thrown the heaviest buffer I can find into it and it still won't run exactly like I want it to suppressed. Debating selling the tOBR with the 22" 260 and 18" 7.62 in lieu of a custom left hand bolt action. Has some knicks in the upper receiver where brass ejected into it. Any idea what the whole setup would be worth if I put it on gunbroker? I was thinking $3500 but would like some input. Still kicking the idea around cause I really don't want to get rid of it, but I'm getting tired of fighting the dang thing and sinking money into it to try to make it work. |
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
Did I miss something in the last few pages? You we're doing load development and shooting some pretty good groups. Thing is a tack driver that's just a blast to shoot, but I'm Leary of dropping more money into a new buffer, tube, and stock assembly. It needs a truly adjustable gas block, I can't afford to buy new ammo or new brass every loading. I did buy some lapua brass today and I'm just gonna load one piece multiple times to see if the primer pocket loosens or if the Hornady brass is crap or it was just loaded too hot from the factory. |
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Originally Posted By Joshpuh:
Perhaps not, I called the shop about it, they said try an h3 buffer and orange sprinco spring. I'm up to an 8.5 oz buffer and the only way to go heavier is to go A5 or rifle buffer system. It still ejects to one o clock and I'm wondering if my loose Hornady primer pockets are due to the bolt unlocking early even with the factory loads and over working the brass. Without the can it short strokes on suppressed but works like a clock on unsuppressed ejects brass to 5 o clock in a nice little pile. I don't like shooting without the can especially since it cost me $1000 and a year of my life. Thing is a tack driver that's just a blast to shoot, but I'm Leary of dropping more money into a new buffer, tube, and stock assembly. It needs a truly adjustable gas block, I can't afford to buy new ammo or new brass every loading. I did buy some lapua brass today and I'm just gonna load one piece multiple times to see if the primer pocket loosens or if the Hornady brass is crap or it was just loaded too hot from the factory. |
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
So, it's working well unsuppressed. We're you able to check the brass you fired unsuppressed to see if it had loose primer pockets? I would assume the L260 is "optimized" for the TQ, is that the can you're shooting? |
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Originally Posted By Joshpuh:
All of the once fired brass I have was shot suppressed with a griffin RSTA. All of it is loose, some to varying degrees, I had two primers fall out in the gun last weekend, one when it was chambering then I pulled the trigger and click, the second one fell out in the mag. The time before that a primer fell out of the brass on the tarp we were shooting on, it didn't blow the primer as far as I can tell. Most of the brass I have I can press the primer in with my thumb or I can tap it on the bench and get it to fall out once one is in. Originally Posted By Joshpuh:
Originally Posted By Defender3:
So, it's working well unsuppressed. We're you able to check the brass you fired unsuppressed to see if it had loose primer pockets? I would assume the L260 is "optimized" for the TQ, is that the can you're shooting? |
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Originally Posted By dHUTCH:
D3 you the man!!! Let me know when it's time to pay. |
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Originally Posted By Joshpuh:
Perhaps not, I called the shop about it, they said try an h3 buffer and orange sprinco spring. I'm up to an 8.5 oz buffer and the only way to go heavier is to go A5 or rifle buffer system. It still ejects to one o clock and I'm wondering if my loose Hornady primer pockets are due to the bolt unlocking early even with the factory loads and over working the brass. Without the can it short strokes on suppressed but works like a clock on unsuppressed ejects brass to 5 o clock in a nice little pile. I don't like shooting without the can especially since it cost me $1000 and a year of my life. Thing is a tack driver that's just a blast to shoot, but I'm Leary of dropping more money into a new buffer, tube, and stock assembly. It needs a truly adjustable gas block, I can't afford to buy new ammo or new brass every loading. I did buy some lapua brass today and I'm just gonna load one piece multiple times to see if the primer pocket loosens or if the Hornady brass is crap or it was just loaded too hot from the factory. It ran like a sowing machine from the factory as a .308 and my 6.5 Grendal is the same.. both with Surefire cans.. I ordered a tranqulo I geuss I will find out in a year if it cleans up the .260 function |
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Originally Posted By Blaster7R:
I kind of feel like a genny pig with the .260 barrle.. I had the same issue.. and I think of lot of the people did as well. With factory FGMM. I was having malfunctions suppressed and 1o'clock ejection unsuppressed. With Hornaday ammo seems to function the rifle reliably. But the ejection pattern was all over the place when I shot it but I need to run a little bit more than a box threat to really get a handle on what it's doing.. that was with an orange buffer spring and H2 buffer It ran like a sowing machine from the factory as a .308 and my 6.5 Grendal is the same.. both with Surefire cans.. I ordered a tranqulo I geuss I will find out in a year if it cleans up the .260 function |
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The class sounds fun. I will work on the wife this weekend. She just let me get a new CRF450r last week so it will be a stretch. The new bike is fast and my right elbow and left knee are currently on strike because of it.
I have a pile of ammo ready and a place to stay in Roundrock if needed. Let me see if I have any capital left with her. Will advise. |
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Originally Posted By rugerdog:
The class sounds fun. I will work on the wife this weekend. She just let me get a new CRF450r last week so it will be a stretch. The new bike is fast and my right elbow and left knee are currently on strike because of it. I have a pile of ammo ready and a place to stay in Roundrock if needed. Let me see if I have any capital left with her. Will advise. |
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You folks having Reliability issues, are you all using 22" barrels???
Shot my 18" 260 for the first time last night. Same setup as I run .308. stock spring and buffer. Tried both SF sps300 and Mini 2 cans. BTW got a sub .5 group with factory ELD-M. Black gold trigger FTW. Every combination I tried was successful for multiple groups, and 20 round mag dumps, with the ELD's I tried... ELD S/US settings, and with both cans it gives me ejection in the 1-2 o clock in all variances FGMM US setting had a malfunction with a group. Then put it on S and did a mag dump and no problems. FGMM with S and Can only worked with SF Mini 2 for complete mag dump. Had 2 FTE over 20 round dump with SPS300 Round count is a 240... with only 3 malfunctions, all were with FGMM related Might get a slightly heavier buffer just to see if anything gets better, but looks like I will be buying cases of Hornady ELD'S for this baby. Im super glad I way outshot the shootist whom had a .970 group. I truly think the Black gold is a difference maker, as the factory group on my .308 was .386. I am UBER happy Mr. Larue 
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Originally Posted By Smasci:
You folks having Reliability issues, are you all using 22" barrels??? Shot my 18" 260 for the first time last night. Same setup as I run .308. stock spring and buffer. Tried both SF sps300 and Mini 2 cans. BTW got a sub .5 group with factory ELD-M. Black gold trigger FTW. Every combination I tried was successful for multiple groups, and 20 round mag dumps, with the ELD's I tried... ELD S/US settings, and with both cans it gives me ejection in the 1-2 o clock in all variances FGMM US setting had a malfunction with a group. Then put it on S and did a mag dump and no problems. FGMM with S and Can only worked with SF Mini 2 for complete mag dump. Had 2 FTE over 20 round dump with SPS300 Round count is a 240... with only 3 malfunctions, all were with FGMM related Might get a slightly heavier buffer just to see if anything gets better, but looks like I will be buying cases of Hornady ELD'S for this baby. Im super glad I way outshot the shootist whom had a .970 group. I truly think the Black gold is a difference maker, as the factory group on my .308 was .386. I am UBER happy Mr. Larue |
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