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Posted: 4/27/2012 11:37:32 PM EDT
Where can you get links or ammo already linked?
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[#1]
Sarge's. Just ordered 2000 for 80 bucks. Got here in 3 days and they look good.
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[#2]
Awesome thanks.
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[#3]
Originally Posted By Steve-in-VA:
Sarge's. Just ordered 2000 for 80 bucks. Got here in 3 days and they look good. Steve, I just ordered 2000 a couple days ago from Old Sarges Drop Zone myself and they're on their way. I'm disappointed they no longer have the nickle plated ones [bLiNg! bLiNg!!] which I figured would have aided in stripping the rounds. Hopefully I'll have something to shoot the ammo they'll be linked to out of sometime within the near future [fingers intertwined in prayer]. Hey, maybe my invoice will be waiting in the mailbox for me when I get home from work today! You know, I want very much to be optomistic, but... Happy Trails! =8^) |
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[#4]
Link the rounds yourself, not worth the extra price of buying ready made linked ammo.
Drop yourself in front of the idiot box and link away, better yet if you have kids make them earn their keep by doing it. Their little fingers will get over it. I had a linking machine and found by the time you lay out the links and rounds you could have already done it. |
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[#5]
Originally Posted By DrewBone:[
Hey, maybe my invoice will be waiting in the mailbox for me when I get home from work today! You know, I want very much to be optomistic, but... 8^) If you get your Upper before me I demand you turn it over to me as there would be no justice if that happens! |
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[#7]
Originally Posted By CTM1:
Link the rounds yourself, not worth the extra price of buying ready made linked ammo. Drop yourself in front of the idiot box and link away, better yet if you have kids make them earn their keep by doing it. Their little fingers will get over it. I had a linking machine and found by the time you lay out the links and rounds you could have already done it. CTM1, Um, I AM going to link them by hand! Perhaps I shoulda' 'splained a little bit more thorougly...the smooth nickle plate on the links [vs. the parked or whatever the beadblasted looking finish is on them when they're new] would have allowed the ammo to be shoved into the links AND to be stripped OUT of the LINKS and into the CHAMBER with less effort! Phew, there you go, 'splained a little more betterer. And whataya' mean I gotta' give you my upper if'n I get it first? Sheeeeeeeeit! You'll have to pry it from my cold dead...oh wait, that would reallty suck. Lemme' rephrase that...um, NO!!! LOL. =8^) |
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[#8]
Can't you just buy these now? I have read a little about the situation from the pre order years ago, but they are in stock now right? When you pre ordered them were they at a better price? You must be getting a better deal than what they are selling for now. There are dealers that have them now, is it better to order from ares themselfs?
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[#9]
Originally Posted By DrewBone:
Originally Posted By Steve-in-VA:
Sarge's. Just ordered 2000 for 80 bucks. Got here in 3 days and they look good. Steve, I just ordered 2000 a couple days ago from Old Sarges Drop Zone myself and they're on their way. I'm disappointed they no longer have the nickle plated ones [bLiNg! bLiNg!!] which I figured would have aided in stripping the rounds. Hopefully I'll have something to shoot the ammo they'll be linked to out of sometime within the near future [fingers intertwined in prayer]. Hey, maybe my invoice will be waiting in the mailbox for me when I get home from work today! You know, I want very much to be optomistic, but... Happy Trails! =8^) Hoping you get a nice porch surprise too! I linked up 1000 last night and only found 2 links that were questionable. I douse the whole lot with a bit of CLP before linking. I let em sit for a bit so I'm not greasing up the rounds- and I make sure it's not too much. I think it helps re stripping. |
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[#10]
I can honestly say this after talking to some ex-military friends that carried a SAW that they never saw any nickel plated M27 links! MAYBE, someone nickeled them? Maybe? And I would believe that if your gun was working correctly that there is no need to grease, oil, or nickel them. JMO......
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[#11]
Agree probably is no need. I think it probably helps though.
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[#12]
Originally Posted By Brucea4:
I can honestly say this after talking to some ex-military friends that carried a SAW that they never saw any nickel plated M27 links! MAYBE, someone nickeled them? Maybe? And I would believe that if your gun was working correctly that there is no need to grease, oil, or nickel them. JMO...... Brucea4, I too am sure that there were no GI nickle plated M27 links! BUT, before Old Sarge ran out of M27 links entirely a few months ago, he used to sell them that'away...nickle plated, hence my reference to them. Either he bought them that way or he had them plated hisself...maybe they were leftovers from the ammo belt "belts" [the kind you use to hold up your pants] he used to sell? I remember one version that had nickle plated links with nickle plated brass with purple bullets, yikes. I'm sure someone else who visited the site in the past will remember these items... =8^) |
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[Last Edit: CTM1]
[#13]
Drewbone my comments above about not buying linked ammo or a linking machine were to the OP deserteaglexxx.
My lower comment about you turning avover your shrike if you get it before me is soley based on the fact that I have been waiting since Sept 2002 and if memory serves me correctly you are many months if not years after I. So even at this late stage of the game I would still be pissed if you come before I So if it needs to be from your cold dead hands, so it shall be I just hope we all get ours. |
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[#14]
I did not mean that you or anyone else was making up these nickel links. But when I read about this and oiling up links and Wolf ammo has more friction in the links, my head hurts! If your rifle doesn't work without these fabricated aids, have it repaired.
When I first started shooting my A4 in .308 there were no Izzy .308 links to be found in the US. As deadbolt reliable the 1919A4 is, it would stop & jam with the 30.06 links. The .308 cartridge being a tad fatter than the 30.06. Once the Izzy links became available in the US, it runs like a champ. Never oiled or greased the links ever! My opinion, oil up your gun and just make sure your links are clean. |
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[#15]
They had them plated because I was going to buy some til They told me it would be a little wait getting them back from the platers.
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[#16]
Originally Posted By deserteaglexxx:
Can't you just buy these now? I have read a little about the situation from the pre order years ago, but they are in stock now right? When you pre ordered them were they at a better price? You must be getting a better deal than what they are selling for now. There are dealers that have them now, is it better to order from ares themselfs? Yes, apprarently you can just buy these from a master deaaler now for $5k + and that is the sand in my and many other peoples shorts as some of us have been waiting 10 years. We have had $1,000 deposit down for all of these years and now ARES has decided to adandon their promise of filling all contracts with original depositers before they made them commericially available. Yes, our contracts are for less then they are being sold for now but that was the price then and it is what it is. I akin this to being on a transpalnt list and when your # should have been called you find out that they skipped over you and gave what should have been yours to someone further down the list, and in some cases years down the list (its been going on for years. Heck now we find out you can have one without ever having been on the list, you just have to pay more. Selling organs to the highest bidder is illegal as it should be with Shrikes. Yeah Yeah Yeah I know after this rant I just went further down the list or is it further up the list with how they figure things. Oh and to all those dips that like to chime in with you could have gotten a refund, please spare me your dribble as I did not fork over my $ 10 years ago to have bailed. I will continue to be on the look out for this mysterious invoice that was supposedly sent out last Mon. I just wonder how long I will have to wait to actually get my Shrike after the balance is paid. Oh this is the one time in life I wish I was an attorney because I would have my Shrike right now. |
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[#17]
sorry
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[#18]
Originally Posted By CTM1:
Drewbone my comments above about not buying linked ammo or a linking machine were to the OP deserteaglexxx. My lower comment about you turning avover your shrike if you get it before me is soley based on the fact that I have been waiting since Sept 2002 and if memory serves me correctly you are many months if not years after I. So even at this late stage of the game I would still be pissed if you come before I So if it needs to be from your cold dead hands, so it shall be I just hope we all get ours. CTM1, I believe I am within months of your Sept 2002 date though it's been so long and I suck at record keeping I can't remember exacitackilly, hahahahahaha. See, I am going senile waiting for this damn thing, sheeeesh! Either way I am a firm believer that if you sent in your deposit before me you should get your upper before me and I would feel like a heel if I were to receive mine before you got yours. We just gotta' hang in there for a bit longer and hope we don't have a stroke in the meantime. Could you imagine...there we are sitting in a wheelchair in some nursing home drooling all over ourselves and we get this package, open it up and don't even know WTF it is? Oh just shoot me!! =8^) |
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[Last Edit: DrewBone]
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Originally Posted By Brucea4:
I did not mean that you or anyone else was making up these nickel links. But when I read about this and oiling up links and Wolf ammo has more friction in the links, my head hurts! If your rifle doesn't work without these fabricated aids, have it repaired. When I first started shooting my A4 in .308 there were no Izzy .308 links to be found in the US. As deadbolt reliable the 1919A4 is, it would stop & jam with the 30.06 links. The .308 cartridge being a tad fatter than the 30.06. Once the Izzy links became available in the US, it runs like a champ. Never oiled or greased the links ever! My opinion, oil up your gun and just make sure your links are clean. Brucea4, I have an Izzy 1919 and although I have a couple thousand new Izzy links I haven't used any of them yet. why? Because I swear, when I first got the links I loaded a few rounds into them and geez it felt like the inside of the links were coated with 60 grit sandpaper, hence my lazy ass uses cloth belts ;-) In regards to the discussion about the nickle plated links, it just seems to reason that with the slicker/smoother nickle plating on the links that the insertion of rounds into them by hand would be easier along with the rifles [in this case the Shrike upper which I DON'T HAVE YET!!!] ability to strip the rounds from the links when the time comes =8^) |
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Originally Posted By Brucea4:
I did not mean that you or anyone else was making up these nickel links. But when I read about this and oiling up links and Wolf ammo has more friction in the links, my head hurts! If your rifle doesn't work without these fabricated aids, have it repaired. When I first started shooting my A4 in .308 there were no Izzy .308 links to be found in the US. As deadbolt reliable the 1919A4 is, it would stop & jam with the 30.06 links. The .308 cartridge being a tad fatter than the 30.06. Once the Izzy links became available in the US, it runs like a champ. Never oiled or greased the links ever! My opinion, oil up your gun and just make sure your links are clean. Relax, no one is saying you need to lube up links to make your Shrike work. I do it cause I I want to, not because I need to. Didn't mean to upset you or induce a migraine. The links are in pretty good shape but theyre far from NIB. DB, I did see the plated links too. Never ordered any. |
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Originally Posted By CTM1:
... My lower comment about you turning avover your shrike if you get it before me is soley based on the fact that I have been waiting since Sept 2002 ..... I just hope we all get ours. Still waiting from Aug 2002!.... Instead of the same old story of telling us that they WILL BE sending out the last batch of invoices, they should have made a post (or hopefully sometime soon in the future): WE HAVE JUST SENT OUT THE LAST BATCH OF INVOICES.... I'm not even going to start to speculate on turnaround time from payment to actual shipment....since we havent yet received the invoice.... I can only imagine.... |
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[#22]
Originally Posted By Brucea4:
I did not mean that you or anyone else was making up these nickel links. But when I read about this and oiling up links and Wolf ammo has more friction in the links, my head hurts! If your rifle doesn't work without these fabricated aids, have it repaired. My opinion, oil up your gun and just make sure your links are clean. Having to use "fabricated aids" to make the system work isn't a fault in the weapon's design, it's operator error. The manual clearly states to avoid using steel cased ammo and to only use mil-spec brass cased ammo in your Shrike. If you are going to shoot steel cased ammo then, you may have to fabricate aids to allow the system to run properly. When I shoot steel cased ammo (Wolf), there is too much link stripping resistance and the ammo is generally under powered (both issues causing fail to feed malfunctions). It's not about the links and it's not about the upper. It's about using the right ammo. |
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[#23]
Originally Posted By HKPDW:
Originally Posted By Brucea4:
I did not mean that you or anyone else was making up these nickel links. But when I read about this and oiling up links and Wolf ammo has more friction in the links, my head hurts! If your rifle doesn't work without these fabricated aids, have it repaired. My opinion, oil up your gun and just make sure your links are clean. Having to use "fabricated aids" to make the system work isn't a fault in the weapon's design, it's operator error. The manual clearly states to avoid using steel cased ammo and to only use mil-spec brass cased ammo in your Shrike. If you are going to shoot steel cased ammo then, you may have to fabricate aids to allow the system to run properly. When I shoot steel cased ammo (Wolf), there is too much link stripping resistance and the ammo is generally under powered (both issues causing fail to feed malfunctions). It's not about the links and it's not about the upper. It's about using the right ammo. I concur! Are you a link frictionoligist? |
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[Last Edit: CTM1]
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Originally Posted By HKPDW:
Having to use "fabricated aids" to make the system work isn't a fault in the weapon's design, it's operator error. The manual clearly states to avoid using steel cased ammo and to only use mil-spec brass cased ammo in your Shrike. If you are going to shoot steel cased ammo then, you may have to fabricate aids to allow the system to run properly. When I shoot steel cased ammo (Wolf), there is too much link stripping resistance and the ammo is generally under powered (both issues causing fail to feed malfunctions). It's not about the links and it's not about the upper. It's about using the right ammo. Just use lube for the steel cased ammo. Its cheaper and you can just clean the gun afterwards. However someone will always say but the lube will pick up crud. Hello your not going into battle with your shrike so is it really an issue |
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[#25]
deserteaglexxx and anyone else,
You can find M27 links here: M27 links for sale, $20 per thousand =8^) |
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