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12/12/2017 2:51:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TN-MadDog][Edited]
Never mind, I talked to Spikes and ordered one of their bolt carrier groups and will send the Faxon back to AIM Surplus.

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Finally got the last of the parts to finish putting my 9mm pistol build together.

Got it all together, grab the charging handle and no go. Will not budge.

The bolt carrier and charging handle will move freely in the upper.

With the bolt carrier removed upper and lower go together fine.

With the bolt carrier installed it is really tight.

With the pivot pin pulled out and the take down pin in it will cycle but it is definitely rubbing.

I believe that it is an issue with bolt carrier and the feed ramp but I'm not positive.

I found this thread with the same issue

Spikes dedicated Colt pattern lower

Aero upper

Faxon Gen 2 9mm bolt carrier

ALG ACT trigger

Any ideas?

Thanks
FTFTWFMF
12/26/2017 9:33:18 PM EDT
[#1]
Just found out I have same issue.  Was waiting on few more parts to come in before putting together.

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12/26/2017 9:37:37 PM EDT
[#2]
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Originally Posted By dcormier1:
Just found out I have same issue.  Was waiting on few more parts to come in before putting together.

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I sent mine back and got a Spikes BCG.

Works great.

Nobody had the Spikes BCG in stock but I called Spikes and talked to them and they had a few but not listed on their web site.

I think Faxon should state that their BCG might not be compatible with all 9mm lowers.

Good luck,
FTFTWFMF
12/26/2017 9:39:22 PM EDT
[#3]
I had an issue with a spikes Colt lower and i had to relieve material from the uprights of the spikes feed ramp. The square corners on the feed ramp were contacting the bottom of my CMMG bolt.
12/26/2017 10:26:17 PM EDT
[#4]
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Originally Posted By Overlord44:
I had an issue with a spikes Colt lower and i had to relieve material from the uprights of the spikes feed ramp. The square corners on the feed ramp were contacting the bottom of my CMMG bolt.
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It definitely is raising the bolt up like you said.  Can you post pics of what you removed?
12/26/2017 10:29:10 PM EDT
[#5]
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Originally Posted By TN-MadDog:

I sent mine back and got a Spikes BCG.

Works great.

Nobody had the Spikes BCG in stock but I called Spikes and talked to them and they had a few but not listed on their web site.

I think Faxon should state that their BCG might not be compatible with all 9mm lowers.

Good luck,
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Need a BCG that has removable weight in rear.  I am using a captured spring setup.  Spikes doesn't look like theirs has right end.
12/26/2017 10:59:54 PM EDT
[#6]
The whole problem may be with Spikes feed ramp.

That is where the Faxon BCG was making contact.

Once I got the BCG issues straightened out I found out that my mags would not go in far enough for the mag catch to lock into the notch.

I ended up taking some metal off the little lip on the feed ramp that keeps the mags from going too far into the receiver and also some metal off the mag catch to get it to work.

That is one of the reason I kept putting off building a 9mm set up. I kept reading about all the folks having issues getting them to run right.

Mine is working correctly now, I think. Still need to do some more testing.

The easiest thing might be to try taking some metal off the top of the feed ramp. You can get another one cheap.

I would guess about a 1/16" based on the gap between the upper and lower near the pivot pin.
FTFTWFMF
12/27/2017 11:54:15 AM EDT
[#7]
Thanks for the info guys. I've added a note on our 9mm BCG product page about the lack of compatibility with Spike's 9mm lowers.
Dealer Sales Manager at Faxon Firearms
12/27/2017 5:45:02 PM EDT
[#8]
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Originally Posted By Overlord44:
I had an issue with a spikes Colt lower and i had to relieve material from the uprights of the spikes feed ramp. The square corners on the feed ramp were contacting the bottom of my CMMG bolt.
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So originally these edge were square, i re-profiled and blued them.


Before I did this the bolt did not want to close and i found some finish removal from the bottom of my bolt which obviously came from the sharp corners of the feed ramp.




Now the bolt clears the feed ramp and can go into battery

12/27/2017 9:44:56 PM EDT
[#9]
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Originally Posted By Overlord44:

So originally these edge were square, i re-profiled and blued them.
https://i.imgur.com/5icTCN3.jpg

Before I did this the bolt did not want to close and i found some finish removal from the bottom of my bolt which obviously came from the sharp corners of the feed ramp.
https://i.imgur.com/Qt3radV.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/iwXxEWY.jpg

Now the bolt clears the feed ramp and can go into battery

https://i.imgur.com/eJgT386.jpg
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Nice photos, good job on the mod.

Maybe Spike's should consider changing the profile on their ramps?
FTFTWFMF
1/3/2018 1:39:41 PM EDT
[#10]
This is great info guys!
Dealer Sales Manager at Faxon Firearms
1/3/2018 4:50:18 PM EDT
[#11]
Had this same issue in the past thought I was the only one.  Really like the Faxon BCG  and it worked on friends 9mm AR so i modified the ears of the Spikes to fit like the other lowers as well.
"FM more kabooms than glocks."
3/24/2018 6:37:09 PM EDT
[#12]
spikes and terms like quality, standard, and reliable don't go together. Dump the spikes lower and get a Colt, BCM, LMT, etc. lower. If one has to file, dremel, modify, etc., then the problem part is not manufactured to industry standards.

I put. 9mm 8.5" sbr together with Hahn dedicated magblock, Faxon 8.5" barrel, Faxon 9mm bolt, and KAK heavy 9mm buffer. 1000's of rounds down the pipe with no issues. Buy quality and spend time shooting vs. fixing...
7/7/2018 3:58:06 PM EDT
[#13]
Anyone know if this is just a problem with the Spikes Colt style and not the Glock?  Faxon's website just mentions the Colt style but want to make sure before I order a lower.

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