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5/16/2018 9:03:03 PM EDT
[#1]
Put my upper on a new Colt lower from Brownells tonight. I need to figure out the stock and get a sling for it.
5/16/2018 9:04:11 PM EDT
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Is anyone else’s mag beat to hell? Mine is dented and looks terrible.
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The mags sold with the rifles were also used in the testing so yours has a bit more of a story to tell than mine that look new.
5/16/2018 9:04:21 PM EDT
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Is anyone else’s mag beat to hell? Mine is dented and looks terrible.
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Like I said before, they are not new. Although not used they are something Colt found in a old box in their wearhouse.
5/16/2018 9:07:09 PM EDT
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The mags sold with the rifles were also used in the testing so yours has a bit more of a story to tell than mine that look new.
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No, I am 100% certain IMO these mags have nothing to do with the testing. They are just old stuff Colt is disposing of.

Be aware AU is not the only CURRENT vendor of these mags.

India 5 round restriction my ass! They are nothing more than Colt cleaning house and finding old product to sell from 1990.
5/16/2018 9:10:21 PM EDT
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No, I am 100% certain IMO these mags have nothing to do with the testing. They are just old stuff Colt is disposing of.

Be aware AU is not the odnly vendor of these mags.
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Edited: Nevermind....your set on your belief.
5/16/2018 9:18:15 PM EDT
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No, I am 100% certain IMO these mags have nothing to do with the testing. They are just old stuff Colt is disposing of.

Be aware AU is not the only CURRENT vendor of these mags.

India 5 round restriction my ass! They are nothing more than Colt cleaning house and finding old product to sell from 1990.
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Pretty strong statements when you haven't produced one shred of evidence to back up your claim.
5/16/2018 9:23:17 PM EDT
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Pretty strong statements when you haven't produced one shred of evidence to back up your claim.
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My upper shows almost no use. Probably just test fired. Close exam maybe shows auto sear trips on carrier.

Sure as heck no one is going to test an auto rifle with a 5 round mag.

AU suggested there was a 5 round restriction for India. No, that 5 round design change occured around 1990 due to problems with buyers of the old 7.62 sporters and the mags failing to work with more than 5 rounds.

KYimports is also selling these mags just released from Colt.

The mags are circ 1990.

I got a few mags from AU. Anodizing worn like they were just old surplus stuff they had from the 90s.

On the mags I received there was considerable DUST, many years of dust on the followers and inside the mag when I removed the limiters.

That is a bunch of proof.

AU just acquired old stuff from Colt, just like KYimports did.

That being said, MY UPPER is beautiful !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
5/16/2018 10:20:01 PM EDT
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Character would be a nice way of putting it. It’s pretty dented up and missing most of the finish off of it. My upper looks great though.
5/16/2018 10:35:41 PM EDT
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Character would be a nice way of putting it. It’s pretty dented up and missing most of the finish off of it. My upper looks great though.
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Get yourself some CProducts mags. Outstanding 7.62X39 mags. Industry leader in this AR caliber.
5/16/2018 11:21:20 PM EDT
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And your upper # is may I please ask.
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I plan on shooting it.

I got Box 23 if anyone wants it.

Fun upper, thanks for making these available.
And your upper # is may I please ask.
I can’t tell, the ink on the sticker is smeared beyond recognition.
5/17/2018 12:15:20 AM EDT
[#11]


Got my upper in today. Flash hider was only on hand tight lol.  Other than that, it looks like a great looking upper.
5/17/2018 12:16:45 AM EDT
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Got my upper in today. Flash hider was only on hand tight lol. Other than that upper Lol. Other than that, it looks like a great looking upper
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5/17/2018 11:47:49 AM EDT
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Got my upper in today. Flash hider was only on hand tight lol.  Other than that, it looks like a great looking upper.
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sleepym4,  what upper number and what box number, may i ask please.

Got it thanks and added to list.
5/17/2018 10:25:52 PM EDT
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5/17/2018 11:16:48 PM EDT
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SleepyM4...am I reading that right in that you got a matching box and upper #14? Nice if so!
5/17/2018 11:44:47 PM EDT
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Yes. Matching numbers
5/18/2018 10:04:40 AM EDT
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I am still trying to find out when these were produced and when the trials occured.

The XS sight post model was first released 2008 so its given that its later than 2008.

The plastic bags are marked 2013 so its as early as 2013.
5/18/2018 10:12:38 AM EDT
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Two went up last night and thanks to family one will be coming to my home. Will update with box and upper number when it arrives.
5/18/2018 10:21:14 AM EDT
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Unsure what two went up last night means, please explain.

Does that mean 2 magically appeared for sale on the website after being officially sold out?

If that is the case, something ain't right at AU. Inventory accounting hosed, or maybe credit cards declined on buyers and items returned to stock, or maybe they had more than 16 as they reported.

Its believed that 24 exists or existed, maybe AU had more than 16.
5/18/2018 11:37:14 AM EDT
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Unsure what two went up last night means, please explain.

Does that mean 2 magically appeared for sale on the website after being officially sold out?

If that is the case, something ain't right at AU. Inventory accounting hosed, or maybe credit cards declined on buyers and items returned to stock, or maybe they had more than 16 as they reported.

Its believed that 24 exists or existed, maybe AU had more than 16.
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Yesterday 2 were in stock, day before they had 0. I managed to get one and they’re out again this morning.

There could be a multitude of reasons that these became available. It’s really none of my business though. If AU chooses to disclose that information that’s their choice.

Unlike some I don’t look a gift horse in the mouth when given an opportunity like this. Curiosity killed the cat and it’s better to leave sleeping dogs where they lie. Just be grateful that companies like AU were able to put these within the reach of the average joe.

Thank you Arms Unlimited!
5/18/2018 12:13:24 PM EDT
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Yesterday 2 were in stock, day before they had 0. I managed to get one and they’re out again this morning.

There could be a multitude of reasons that these became available. It’s really none of my business though. If AU chooses to disclose that information that’s their choice.

Unlike some I don’t look a gift horse in the mouth when given an opportunity like this. Curiosity killed the cat and it’s better to leave sleeping dogs where they lie. Just be grateful that companies like AU were able to put these within the reach of the average joe.

Thank you Arms Unlimited!
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At least 3 times the inventory count in their web system went UP instead of down.
5/18/2018 12:42:53 PM EDT
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We sometimes cancel orders due to suspected fraud. This adds items back to inventory. They are now all gone.
5/18/2018 5:51:15 PM EDT
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Upper #21, box #17.

#21 looks to be in the same condition as the others that have been pictured in this thread.  It has a few exterior scuffs and just a little bit of wear on the BCG.  I’ll post some pictures after I get it cleaned up.

The barrel has a SOCOM profile and is dated 04/14.
5/18/2018 6:14:38 PM EDT
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Upper #21, box #17.

#21 looks to be in the same condition as the others that have been pictured in this thread.  It has a few exterior scuffs and just a little bit of wear on the BCG.  I’ll post some pictures after I get it cleaned up.

The barrel has a SOCOM profile and is dated 04/14.
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I will add to list.

How stupid of me! I didn't think to look for a bbl date to get the production date. Its hard to find. I didn't see it till just now.

My date is also 04/14 so the Trials must have happened after that date.

I also added this SOCOM bbl info to the list on page 2.
5/18/2018 6:33:26 PM EDT
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Armsunlimited, Id like to buy a couple 7.62 Colt mags, they are no longer listed.
5/18/2018 7:01:02 PM EDT
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Armsunlimited, Id like to buy a couple 7.62 Colt mags, they are no longer listed.
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Rboitano, are you waiting on a upper?
5/18/2018 7:06:39 PM EDT
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Does anyone have a reliable source for the C products magazines?
5/18/2018 7:12:22 PM EDT
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Northriver was the place but they closed shop recently.

I got a bunch from Brownells in the past. Use a good coupon code and their price on these mags are the lowest usually. Backorder on these at Brownells is not too long. They seem to be always on backorder. They fill the orders on these as they receive them.

SGAMMO also is a good place.
5/18/2018 9:45:36 PM EDT
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Armsunlimited, Id like to buy a couple 7.62 Colt mags, they are no longer listed.
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OOS at AU.

If you must have Colt, KYimports.com has a few.  KYIMP on Gunbroker also has 2 packs. Same company as KYimports.com. Price is not great.
5/19/2018 2:38:54 PM EDT
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Northriver was the place but they closed shop recently.

I got a bunch from Brownells in the past. Use a good coupon code and their price on these mags are the lowest usually. Backorder on these at Brownells is not too long. They seem to be always on backorder. They fill the orders on these as they receive them.

SGAMMO also is a good place.
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Thanks this is my first rodeo with a 7.62x39 ar. I just want a few mags the rifle probably won’t ever be fired.

Now I have to track down a Colt receiver.

I have several lowers from AU but I want something colt that has 7.62x39 roll marked on it.

Thank you again Arms Unlimited!
5/19/2018 3:09:58 PM EDT
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My buddy’s Upper is 8 and box 22
5/19/2018 3:54:18 PM EDT
[#32]
Upper #21 on its M4A1 lower receiver.



5/19/2018 4:01:21 PM EDT
[#33]
Anyone else's mag look like this?







5/19/2018 4:14:05 PM EDT
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no, you got a crappy mag. very crappy. that is the one that was used as a door stop at the colt factory.

Here is exactly what you need to do:

1. Contact AU, show them the pic and advise them the mag is not only not NOS but it is a POS.

2. Request that they mail you one of their NEW 5.56 Colt 20 round mags as a replacement.

3. Remove the follower and floor plate from the 7.62X39 and install them in the new body of the 5.56 Colt 20.

When done you will have a brand new 7.62X39. Both the 5.56 and the 7.62X39 use the exact same mag body.

When you remove the revit in the 7.62X39 floor plate, use a drill only large enough to free the revit. Too large a drill bit will make a sloppy job. It does not take much to remove the revit.

Throw the 5 round limiter in the trash. Just remember to only load 5-7 rounds when used.
5/19/2018 6:02:07 PM EDT
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Wow that mag is beat!
How does the mag even accompany a $1000 upper
Im guessing the mags weren't used for the testing or the uppers wouldnt look so good.
Maybe your mag was used for all the guns.
Wonder how testing with full auto rifles and 5 round mags goes?
What country was Colt supply with x39 rifles in the late 90s early 2000s?
5/19/2018 7:25:41 PM EDT
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Damn, that looks terrible. Mine is decent. They should at least give you store credit.
5/19/2018 7:30:28 PM EDT
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delete. added to list.
5/21/2018 4:53:02 PM EDT
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Unless you get an 80% lower done, your odds of finding an individual Colt 7.62x39 marked lower receiver is on par with winning the lottery.

I wish you luck in your hunt.
5/21/2018 6:48:58 PM EDT
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I wouldn't recommend the old C Products 7.62X39 mags that was made in CT because their quality are unpredictable, they made a lot of bad unusable mags way back then.

The new company that bought some of the assets of the old C Products have better quality now which is the C Products Defense located in FL (link below).

The only other mag brand I had seen, but not tried yet, is D&H Industries 30 rd mags and Brownells (link below), I'm just assuming they're high quality because I have plenty of D&H 5.56 mags that have no problems.

Also D&H are going to release their new 10 rd 7.62X39 mags this coming Fall.

https://cpdmags.com/

https://www.brownells.com/magazines/rifle-magazines/magazines/ar-15-7-62x39-magazines-30rd-prod95439.aspx
5/21/2018 7:15:53 PM EDT
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My pre ban Colt R6830 Sporter Lightweight 7.62X39 carbine that was bought new in 1993.


Top pic shows the steel lower receiver sear block which are common with Colt Sporter AR models from 1990 up to the ban era.

First of all congrats to all that got the rare 7.62X39 uppers, it would be a very nice collector and because of its limited numbers it should definitely go up in value.

For guys looking for Colt 7.62X39 marked 6830 Sporter Lightweight carbines, I agree there are not many of them since they were only made less than two years from 1993 up to the later months of '94 because of the ban.

Another undesirable feature of the 6830 lower receiver are they mostly have the steel sear block which would prevent using M16 full auto bolt carriers and it would also interfere with some brands of aftermarket triggers.

If you really like that lower receiver the sear block could be machined flush to the top of the receiver to allow use of full auto bolt carrier and the front of the block relieved so that some aftermarket triggers could be used.

During the ban Colt replaced the model 6830 with a Match Target MT6830 post ban LE only but instead of the older model fixed A2 stocks, it had collapsible stocks for LE use.
5/21/2018 9:57:42 PM EDT
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Anyone know what the screw on the left side of the receiver located below/at T9 is for?

A normal receiver doesn't have one but this mono has it.
5/21/2018 11:28:45 PM EDT
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thanks for the information, I'm just going to buy an 80% and get it engraved and anodized.
5/21/2018 11:56:49 PM EDT
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Anyone know what the screw on the left side of the receiver located below/at T9 is for?

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That screw holds a plate on the inside of the upper receiver that is designed to reduce wear from the cam pin.  Early 6940 upper receivers didnt’t have the plate.  The plate was added when the 6940P was released.
5/22/2018 1:26:34 PM EDT
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I was thinking that I had seen some of these uppers for sale before. Took some searching, here is what I found.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ujorwey5s460f8s/colt6940upper762c39x.jpg?dl=0

In June 2017, I got an email sales ad from a vendor (not AU) offering these up for sale.
They claimed: Extremely Rare, Only 25 ever made, they had 14. No mention of india or used.
5/22/2018 8:37:14 PM EDT
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I was thinking that I had seen some of these uppers for sale before. Took some searching, here is what I found.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ujorwey5s460f8s/colt6940upper762c39x.jpg?dl=0

In June 2017, I got an email sales ad from a vendor (not AU) offering these up for sale.
They claimed: Extremely Rare, Only 25 ever made, they had 14. No mention of india or used.
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And the vendor name is who?

It would be hard to believe you didn't have the company name but retained the listing.

One possibility would be that vendor ordered the uppers from Colt and for some reason they never took delivery. Along comes AU a year later and they did take delivery.
5/22/2018 8:41:57 PM EDT
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What? No uppers received today?

I would have thought 2 maybe were delivered Monday thru tonight.
5/23/2018 7:57:48 AM EDT
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Armsunlimited never stated they got these uppers direct from Colt.

AU did you get them from Colt or from a source other than Colt as suggested by the above posted old advertisement by 10mmphil?
5/23/2018 4:14:20 PM EDT
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And the vendor name is who?

It would be hard to believe you didn't have the company name but retained the listing.

One possibility would be that vendor ordered the uppers from Colt and for some reason they never took delivery. Along comes AU a year later and they did take delivery.
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Ad looks like CDNN

I’ll have my upper tomorrow and my engraved 80 next week :D
5/23/2018 4:50:51 PM EDT
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Armsunlimited never stated they got these uppers direct from Colt.

AU did you get them from Colt or from a source other than Colt as suggested by the above posted old advertisement by 10mmphil?
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I never suggested that.
The goal of my post was to let people know that there may be more of these uppers out there than the 16 that AU had.
AU did nothing wrong, I like AU.

The name of the vendor is/was special forces outdoors . com and they are closed down.
They still have a FB page, so that might have some info.

I will email the SFO email ad to selected members that IM me. Just trying to help.
5/23/2018 4:50:59 PM EDT
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That's what I first thought but I looked up some pics of their ad and the text font is different.

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