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Posted: 4/3/2019 11:12:39 PM EDT
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Didn’t Bama Carry have a guy OC at a polling place and act like a sovereign citizen and end up getting arrested?
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Posted: 4/4/2019 12:22:18 AM EDT
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Didn’t Bama Carry have a guy OC at a polling place and act like a sovereign citizen and end up getting arrested? Alabama voter convicted for openly carrying gun to poll Technically, the guy was correct but the Sheriff had a beef against him. He was convicted on causing a disturbance even though the only one that was disturbed was the Sheriff. 
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Posted: 4/4/2019 8:31:13 AM EDT
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Is any group tracking what the legislators are up to, getting tables at gunshows around the state, and publicizing who is working for and against RKBA so that voters have that info during elections? Any organization going through the bills and spreading the word? I see a lot of individuals doing it in their part, but I don't see Bama Carry or any other org at a table at local gun shows.
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Posted: 4/4/2019 1:28:34 PM EDT
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Just checked their website and their domain bamacarry.org is available for purchase, so.. I don't know what happened to them
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Posted: 4/4/2019 1:57:52 PM EDT
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Great thread OP!!!!
After recently not hearing back from two Republican State Reps about CC after reaching out, I'm motivated to help form some kind of powerful lobbying organization for our State gun laws. It would be hugely supported if people knew about it, given guns are hugely supported in Alabama. This needs to happen, we need a powerful, strong, unified force to impose our will (and people's majority beliefs of this State) on our elected officials. I'd volunteer to help in many different ways. |
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Posted: 4/4/2019 4:51:32 PM EDT
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Bama Carry got off to a rough start and rubbed people the wrong way with the anti-cop crap in the Facebook group, but they've mostly cleaned out the garbage now. There is a main group and local chapters.
The website is down, but the Facebook group is active. |
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Posted: 4/4/2019 7:54:22 PM EDT
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Will have to check out their facebook. I'd hate to step on or conflict with folks that are being effective, but our on going issue getting ccw/vehicle carry issues through the legislature point to the need for something new.
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Posted: 4/5/2019 8:31:59 AM EDT
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Bama Carry got off to a rough start and rubbed people the wrong way with the anti-cop crap in the Facebook group, but they've mostly cleaned out the garbage now. There is a main group and local chapters. The website is down, but the Facebook group is active. They had a table at the last gun show. When the NRA had the meeting at Hoover Tactical two years ago, one person who identified as a Bama Carry member was in attendance but I don't think any leadership was there. I don't think they have been very effective at state lobbying. I think the Chilton County area has a meeting once a month at the Kountry Kitchen in Clanton. |
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Posted: 4/5/2019 1:55:52 PM EDT
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They lack the funding to effectively lobby. While the Facebook group is fairly active and has 20k members, only a minority are paying members. I've seen a few of the chapters that started going to their local ranges and Exile Armory in Weaver has hosted the Calhoun chapter a number of times at special events. But, it's all fairly unorganized and dependent on volunteers.
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Posted: 4/5/2019 10:29:55 PM EDT
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Anyone know anyone who is familiar with non profits and PACs in AL?
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Posted: 4/5/2019 11:40:45 PM EDT
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Personally I think your best bet is to work with the NRA.
They can get face to face time with the politicians. |
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Posted: 4/9/2019 12:36:38 PM EDT
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On the one hand you're probably right. On the other hand, a number of folks recently having to destroy hundreds of dollars of personal property to avoid unlawful enforcement actions against them due to NRA endorsing bumpfire support devices being magically deemed machine guns makes it hard for more people to look to them as allies. Not saying NRA has no value, but between this and red flags they've badly damaged their brand name this year.
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Posted: 4/9/2019 2:07:09 PM EDT
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On the one hand you're probably right. On the other hand, a number of folks recently having to destroy hundreds of dollars of personal property to avoid unlawful enforcement actions against them due to NRA endorsing bumpfire support devices being magically deemed machine guns makes it hard for more people to look to them as allies. Not saying NRA has no value, but between this and red flags they've badly damaged their brand name this year. It was the NRA who hosted the HTF event at Hoover Tactical to push Constitutional Carry and got State Rep Farley to attend. They are the ones sitting down with the state reps trying to get us better gun laws. NOBODY else is even close to do what the NRA has done in our state. Bumpstock bans and Red Flag laws were coming regardless of the NRA. |
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Posted: 4/9/2019 3:05:14 PM EDT
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All valid points. Everything is more challenging right now, and not looking to get easier as time goes by, which is what makes the stalling in the AL public safety committee so outrageous
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Posted: 4/9/2019 5:02:15 PM EDT
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On the one hand you're probably right. On the other hand, a number of folks recently having to destroy hundreds of dollars of personal property to avoid unlawful enforcement actions against them due to NRA endorsing bumpfire support devices being magically deemed machine guns makes it hard for more people to look to them as allies. Not saying NRA has no value, but between this and red flags they've badly damaged their brand name this year. Update- the website is back online at a new address: bamacarry.us |
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Posted: 4/10/2019 8:49:57 AM EDT
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All valid points. Everything is more challenging right now, and not looking to get easier as time goes by, which is what makes the stalling in the AL public safety committee so outrageous Treadway is carrying the water of the Chief of Police for Birmingham. I get it, they get to make easy arrests on thugs for carrying without a permit. It's a good tool to play whack a thug. I also get that we have it actually pretty good when it comes to the pistol permit system. It's one of those things as a 2nd Amendment Purist I would like to see passed simply because I believe in it but in the grand scheme of things we have it pretty good. |
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Posted: 4/10/2019 10:52:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Bama's right. For good or bad, Bama Carry is currently a disorganized mess with lack of funding and leadership that doesn't seem to understand basic optics. Update- the website is back online at a new address: bamacarry.us https://www.bamacarry.us/chapters.html |
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Posted: 4/10/2019 11:14:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Farley and Treadway won't take my calls, requests for a sit down or return my emails. They know, that I know, they are full of shit. ... That's what we need, and we need it effective for the 2020 cycle where republicans will be interested in things to attract the voters to the polls |
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Posted: 4/10/2019 11:53:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There's the thing. Right now its mostly just some random individuals they can ignore. The people have no carrot or stick to bring to bear. A PAC that provides funds and advocacy for candidates that don't kill bills in comittee would help. A grass roots awareness org that makes sure everyone knows what's going on via gun shows, events, newsletters, and assessments of legislator performance gets the momentum. That's what we need, and we need it effective for the 2020 cycle where republicans will be interested in things to attract the voters to the polls |
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Posted: 4/10/2019 11:53:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There's the thing. Right now its mostly just some random individuals they can ignore. The people have no carrot or stick to bring to bear. A PAC that provides funds and advocacy for candidates that don't kill bills in comittee would help. A grass roots awareness org that makes sure everyone knows what's going on via gun shows, events, newsletters, and assessments of legislator performance gets the momentum. That's what we need, and we need it effective for the 2020 cycle where republicans will be interested in things to attract the voters to the polls |
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Posted: 4/10/2019 6:29:42 PM EDT
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It seems to me a fresh start is needed that comprehends past issues, and drives a new vision that will have impact. It will take a few good men to architect, and more to give it life.
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Posted: 5/21/2019 1:51:48 PM EDT
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Some good points made here. Bama Carry has a tendency to make just about everyone angry. They are decidedly anti-Leo. I think most of this comes from their retired ff leadership.
I’d stick with NRA even if it too has problems that need immediate attention. It seems Oliver North was trying and got booted for it. |
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Posted: 5/28/2019 7:57:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If it wasn't for the NRA we would not have got Shall Issue and the permit age lowered to 18 in AL. The NRA is the reason we got Short Barrel Rifles and Short Barrel Shoguns legalized in AL It was the NRA who hosted the HTF event at Hoover Tactical to push Constitutional Carry and got State Rep Farley to attend. They are the ones sitting down with the state reps trying to get us better gun laws. NOBODY else is even close to do what the NRA has done in our state. Bumpstock bans and Red Flag laws were coming regardless of the NRA. |
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