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Link Posted: 3/3/2021 11:38:42 AM EDT
Link Posted: 3/3/2021 11:56:00 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By fish223:



Lee Zeldin is awesome. I've had a couple of great conversations with him.
Solid conservative, great attitude about 2A, and would be the greatest governor NY has ever seen.
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Just my 2 cents on this: Lee was on The David Webb show yesterday, talking about the possibilities of a republican bounce-back in NY. He went on for a bit how there was once a Republican led Senate in the state and how the state can get that back and see real change, and how people will look to the Republicans to bring back sanity.

I just want to call a little bit of BS on this. When the SAFE act came up in 2013, 9 Senate "republicans" voted for it. When the Marriage Equality Act in 2011 came up, 6 "republicans" voted for it. In both cases these bills passed because of the Republican support.

The Republicans have done nothing but lose Seats in the Senate and Assembly since 2010 and it doesn't show signs of changing. the reality of the situation is that these "republicans" for the most part are not now, nor have they ever been conservatives. When you get a "moderate" republican in NY they are only Republicans in NY. In any other state not named California, Illinois or New Jersey they would be democrats.

Its unfortunate but i think its reality. Hopefully this Lee Zeldin is different and really a guy who can help usher change, but firt he and all the other republican's need to admit that their "Grand Old Party" stance needs to go. They need to appear like a radically different choice to the democrat running against them.
Link Posted: 3/3/2021 12:54:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By byuind:

He went on for a bit how there was once a Republican led Senate in the state and how the state can get that back and see real change, and how people will look to the Republicans to bring back sanity.

I just want to call a little bit of BS on this. When the SAFE act came up in 2013, 9 Senate "republicans" voted for it. When the Marriage Equality Act in 2011 came up, 6 "republicans" voted for it. In both cases these bills passed because of the Republican support.

The Republicans have done nothing but lose Seats in the Senate and Assembly since 2010 and it doesn't show signs of changing. the reality of the situation is that these "republicans" for the most part are not now, nor have they ever been conservatives. When you get a "moderate" republican in NY they are only Republicans in NY. In any other state not named California, Illinois or New Jersey they would be democrats.
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The reality was the Republicans had not really controlled the Senate since even before 2010. The only reason they managed to have a majority was due to several Democrat Senators caucusing with the Republicans thus giving them a technical majority. The reality was the Senate would really have looked like it does now much earlier. The Democrats primaried those "traitorous" Senators in 2018 and they all lost. Plus a wave swept through Long Island that pushed out several Senators here too. My own Senator, Marcellino, was ousted. It was no net loss as he was one of the nine that voted for the SAFE Act. In the long run that vote did not protect him from being ousted.
Link Posted: 3/3/2021 2:29:22 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Aardvark:
The reality was the Republicans had not really controlled the Senate since even before 2010. The only reason they managed to have a majority was due to several Democrat Senators caucusing with the Republicans thus giving them a technical majority. The reality was the Senate would really have looked like it does now much earlier. The Democrats primaried those "traitorous" Senators in 2018 and they all lost. Plus a wave swept through Long Island that pushed out several Senators here too. My own Senator, Marcellino, was ousted. It was no net loss as he was one of the nine that voted for the SAFE Act. In the long run that vote did not protect him from being ousted.
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I think this analysis is pretty much dead on.


It is even more disappointing when you think about it because it essentially guarantees that NYS has almost no realistic chance of having something resembling a Republican majority in either State House let alone the Executive branch. I would say that the Democrats are the reason I left, but I think what stung the most every day that I was there was the constant reminder of betrayal by almost every single so-called "conservative" in office.

Hell the only two guys who were ever actually a straight shooters were Mickey Kearns and Mark Schroeder and both of those men were bloody Democrats! At least they did what they said they would do.

I guess at the end of the day would you rather your wife tell you she was cheating on you or have her lie to you and you just believe her?? lol
Link Posted: 3/3/2021 3:13:50 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/3/2021 4:00:37 PM EDT
He needs to be thrown out worthless human being
Link Posted: 3/3/2021 7:20:42 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/4/2021 11:38:20 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Aimless:
The Dems won't impeach him, he's unlikely to be charged criminally and I read the dems are already saying "we taught him a lesson by taking away his emergency powers" Unless they uncover some significant criminal behavior he'll just keep saying "I'm sorry people misunderstood my innocent but inappropriate joking around" and see what happens in the primary.
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Pretty much my take on it. Personally I think the goal was to fire a warning shot across his bough and put him on notice that he was getting to big for his britches. But the last thing they want to do is start airing their dirty Democrat laundry. I am sure Cuomo has plenty of dirt on a lot of players in the party and if they start pushing him too hard, that information is going to start "leaking" out to the news media. As others have noted, there is still the mysterious Moreland Commission data that has never been seen but rumored to be quite damning. You are basically looking at a Mexican standoff unless one side or the other feels they have enough ammo to go full nuclear.

Funny thing, this morning my sister was watching a repeat of the Cuomo diatribe on GMA. She said, "now he is sorry about what he did." I responded, not really. Listen carefully to what he said. He is said he is sorry various people felt what he did was inappropriate but he really did not come out and say he was truly sorry for his actions of themselves. She paused for a moment and then admitted that he was indeed nuanced about what he said. She also wondered why they were saying there needs to be an investigation instead of everyone just believing the #MeToo movement. Reminded her that it depends on the offenders political party. Democrat's get a pass and an investigation. Republican's get taken down without any hearing or evidence other that on word alone.
Link Posted: 3/4/2021 1:09:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Aimless:
I think Cuomo is going to hang tight. He never actually laid a minute on any of these women he was harassing. The Dems won't impeach him, he's unlikely to be charged criminally and I read the dems are already saying "we taught him a lesson by taking away his emergency powers" Unless they uncover some significant criminal behavior he'll just keep saying "I'm sorry people misunderstood my innocent but inappropriate joking around" and see what happens in the primary.
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Yeah. This is what I think will happen. For awhile last week I had some false hope, but seeing the Dems and their media allies maneuvering these last few days to play down the nursing home deaths; the effort to end Cuomo’s emergency powers and even the sec harassment leads me to think they are happy to keep Cuomo in place until the end of his term.
Link Posted: 3/4/2021 1:10:57 PM EDT
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Yeah. This is what I think will happen. For awhile last week I had some false hope, but seeing the Dems and their media allies maneuvering these last few days to play down the nursing home deaths; the effort to end Cuomo’s emergency powers and even the sec harassment leads me to think they are happy to keep Cuomo in place until the end of his term.
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Originally Posted By Aimless:
I think Cuomo is going to hang tight. He never actually laid a minute on any of these women he was harassing. The Dems won't impeach him, he's unlikely to be charged criminally and I read the dems are already saying "we taught him a lesson by taking away his emergency powers" Unless they uncover some significant criminal behavior he'll just keep saying "I'm sorry people misunderstood my innocent but inappropriate joking around" and see what happens in the primary.



Yeah. This is what I think will happen. For awhile last week I had some false hope, but seeing the Dems and their media allies maneuvering these last few days to play down the nursing home deaths; the effort to end Cuomo’s emergency powers and even the sec harassment leads me to think they are happy to keep Cuomo in place until the end of his term.


That arrogant a hole is going to run again... and win.
Link Posted: 3/5/2021 12:18:36 AM EDT
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“Cuomo’s top advisers successfully pushed state health officials to strip a public report of data showing that more nursing-home residents had died of Covid-19 than the admin had acknowledged, according to people with knowledge of the report’s production.”
https://www.wsj.com/articles/cuomo-advisers-altered-report-on-covid-19-nursing-home-deaths-11614910855Wsj


https://mobile.twitter.com/JimmyVielkind/status/1367662683231780868


Link Posted: 3/5/2021 8:41:23 AM EDT
After all this comes to pass, do you think we can get "Daddy's Bridge" named back to the "Tappan Zee"
Link Posted: 3/5/2021 8:59:34 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By MPi-KMS-72:
“Cuomo’s top advisers successfully pushed state health officials to strip a public report of data showing that more nursing-home residents had died of Covid-19 than the admin had acknowledged, according to people with knowledge of the report’s production.”
https://www.wsj.com/articles/cuomo-advisers-altered-report-on-covid-19-nursing-home-deaths-11614910855Wsj


https://mobile.twitter.com/JimmyVielkind/status/1367662683231780868


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The commies are not letting up, Cumhole must scare the crap out of them for some reason & they are destroying him now before he becomes a threat they can't openly deal with, naturally Him being an arrogant asshole with a huge ego is working against him.
Link Posted: 3/5/2021 9:54:11 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Aardvark:
After all this comes to pass, do you think we can get "Daddy's Bridge" named back to the "Tappan Zee"
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Link Posted: 3/5/2021 12:27:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By garr:


The commies are not letting up, Cumhole must scare the crap out of them for some reason & they are destroying him now before he becomes a threat they can't openly deal with, naturally Him being an arrogant asshole with a huge ego is working against him.
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Someone (besides us) definitely wants to take him down a notch if not boot him from politics completely.  He pisses off everyone he meets except his browbeaten core sycophants.

My wild guess is someone wants him off the playing field for future presidential elections?

He's served his purpose and is now a threat to someone.  


Remember the ultra leftists hate him and see him as an obstruction to their goals.
Link Posted: 3/5/2021 2:34:59 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/7/2021 7:24:23 PM EDT
"NEW YORK’S TOP DEMOCRATIC LAWMAKERS CALL ON GOV. CUOMO TO STEP DOWN
by Kevin Ryan
Amid multiple new allegations of inappropriate behavior from former aides and a worsening nursing home scandal, New York’s top Democratic lawmakers are finally saying it’s time for Gov. Andrew Cuomo to step down.
State Senate Majority Leader Andrea Stewart-Cousins (D) directly called on Cuomo to resign, pointing to “allegations about sexual harassment, a toxic work environment, [and] the loss of credibility surrounding the nursing home data”.
“We need to govern without daily distraction. For the good of the state Governor Cuomo must resign,” Leader Stewart-Cousins said.
Shortly after, the Speaker of New York’s Assembly all but did the same.
“I think it is time for the governor to seriously consider whether he can effectively meet the needs of the people of New York,” Speaker Carl Heastie (D) said in a statement.
State Sen. Liz Krueger, a prominent Manhattan Democrat, also called on Cuomo to resign, saying, "I stand with Majority Leader Stewart-Cousins in calling for the Governor to resign. Our state is rightly crying out for truthful, transparent government. The people's business is too pressing to continue to be derailed in this way.”
Several other prominent New York lawmakers last week said Cuomo should step down, but until the state’s Democrat leadership had stopped short of joining them.
The growing calls come after two more women say they were sexually harassed by Cuomo, bringing the total number of accusers to five.
Karen Hinton, who worked as a press aide to Cuomo when he led the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development under President Bill Clinton, said Cuomo once summoned her to his hotel room, grabbed her, and pulled her back when she tried to leave.  Several people say Hinton told them about the incident shortly after it occurred.
Hinton also says that, while at HUD, Cuomo made hiring decisions based on looks.
“I sat in on one [job] interview and he told me later she wasn’t attractive enough for the job so he didn’t hire her,” she said.
Speaking to reporters today, Cuomo said Hinton's claims are “not true,” and urged everyone to wait for the results of New York Attorney General Letitia James' investigation into his behavior.  
The governor also insinuated that he had dirt on other politicians, saying that when he served as attorney general he received “all sorts of allegations against politicians all the time,” but did not make them public.
And he took a more defiant tone than previously, saying demands that he resign are “anti-democratic.”
“There is no way I resign,” he said.
Link Posted: 3/8/2021 12:11:06 AM EDT
The left needs Dear Leader gone so they can usher in their socialist utopia. For all his faults, Cuomo knows he won't stay in office if he raises taxes to the level the state would need to underwrite all their social programs.

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Originally Posted By MPi-KMS-72:
Remember the ultra leftists hate him and see him as an obstruction to their goals.
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Link Posted: 3/8/2021 7:20:18 AM EDT
As much as I'd like to see this arrogant ass removed from office, I think of the statement " be careful what you wish for".
Link Posted: 3/8/2021 9:35:39 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By DancingBear:
As much as I'd like to see this arrogant ass removed from office, I think of the statement " be careful what you wish for".
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+1,000,000

Politico posted an article two days ago listing the various potential replacements for Cuomo. First and foremost the initial replacement would be Kathy Hochul as she is the Lt. Governor and next in the line of succession. For the TL;DR crowd, they list them in order of what they consider electability:

Kathy Hochul
Attorney General Tish James
New York City Public Advocate Jumaane Williams
Comptroller Tom DiNapoli
Suffolk County Executive Steve Bellone or Nassau County Executive Laura Curran
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand
State Senate Deputy Leader Mike Gianaris
Sen. Alessandra Biaggi or another state legislator
Ithaca Mayor Svante Myrick
New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio

All would be rated at least F- as 2A supporters but I could find DiNapoli somewhat palatable on other issues. Met him a few times back in the days when he was an assemblyman for the Manhasset/Great Neck area.

Link Posted: 3/8/2021 9:43:12 AM EDT
Cuomo said he ain't resigning. No way, no how.
Link Posted: 3/8/2021 10:07:06 AM EDT
Link Posted: 3/8/2021 10:15:25 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By batjka104:
Cuomo said he ain't resigning. No way, no how.
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I do not expect him too. But more and more they are talking up the "impeachment" angle. The Democrat's have had a lot of experience with that at the Federal level lately so I am sure Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer would be willing to forward their study guides and crib notes to the Assembly and Senate

All I know is that if they go the impeachment route, there are going to be all kinds of secret document dumps from Cuomo's files naming names and outing people for various crimes that were covered up.
Link Posted: 3/8/2021 11:54:03 AM EDT
Keep in mind NYS economy was already at the bottom.  Now with COVID it’s only worse.  Best “solution “ for the Dems is to get rid of Cuomo, blame him, and wash their hands of it.
Link Posted: 3/8/2021 1:10:06 PM EDT
If they don't shit can the douche the #metoo will lose all creditably and be just another liberal bs thing with double standards.
Link Posted: 3/8/2021 6:51:53 PM EDT
Wait until after the budget is done, if they move to oust him, it will be then.
Link Posted: 3/8/2021 8:28:58 PM EDT
According to a report this evening, the last New York Governor impeached was William Sulzer back in 1913. He was also the ONLY New York Governor ever impeached.

He must have been the one who signed the Sullivan Act into law
Link Posted: 3/11/2021 4:16:35 PM EDT
Has anyone seen a shred of PROOF that Cuomo harassed young female democrats?


I have PROOF he violated the rights of millions of gun owners.  Where is the uproar?
Link Posted: 3/12/2021 2:40:33 PM EDT
https://mobile.twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1370442080636575744

BREAKING REPORT: 30 women have told New York Magazine that they have been "bullied" or "harassed" by Gov. Cuomo and/or his staff
1:30 PM · Mar 12, 2021·TweetDeck
Link Posted: 3/12/2021 6:49:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By fish223:
I had such high hopes when Astorino ran. I figured if Westchester could go for it, any blue county could.
Once again, disappointment ruled the day.
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Me too. I felt like that was our chance
Link Posted: 3/12/2021 7:07:54 PM EDT
He's gonna win steal another term.
Link Posted: 3/12/2021 8:10:07 PM EDT
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/rebeccadowns/2021/03/12/breaking-sens-chuck-schumer-and-kirsten-gillibrand-stab-cuomo-in-the-back-as-the-call-on-him-to-resign-n2586195?utm_source=breakingemail
Link Posted: 3/12/2021 8:16:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By waldershrek:


Me too. I felt like that was our chance
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Originally Posted By waldershrek:
Originally Posted By fish223:
I had such high hopes when Astorino ran. I figured if Westchester could go for it, any blue county could.
Once again, disappointment ruled the day.


Me too. I felt like that was our chance


Astorino could have beaten FUAC, the RINO party did not give him 1 iota of support, zinch, nothing, nada, not even a good word.
Link Posted: 3/12/2021 9:42:36 PM EDT
Republican politicians should pay attention.  Dems never give up or give in, they fight to the end even when faced with overwhelming facts and opposition.  This is how you fight.
Link Posted: 3/12/2021 10:28:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Abom:
Has anyone seen a shred of PROOF that Cuomo harassed young female democrats?


I have PROOF he violated the rights of millions of gun owners.  Where is the uproar?
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You're so silly, it's not about what he did or may have done, it's about the perception and the good of the movement....sacrifices to the people must be made!  

Oh, and those icky guns, well nobody cares about all those gun owners and their evil assault weapons, now about my antifa riot march...
Link Posted: 3/13/2021 10:27:15 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By fp1201:

Oh, and those icky guns, well nobody cares about all those gun owners and their evil assault weapons, now about my antifa riot march...
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For the most populous areas of the state, gun control is a winner and the makeup of the legislature shows. The Long Island RINO's who supported the SAFE Act were handily re-elected time-and-again until they were pushed out for other reasons. Voting against the SAFE Act would not have cost them their seats. But just like Pataki, they seem to think that throwing their supporters to the curb and voting for what their opposition wants will somehow garner them support for their opposition

Unless there is a successful Democrat primary challenger to Cuomo, he will be re-elected in 2022. No question about it.
Link Posted: 3/13/2021 12:30:27 PM EDT
If he resigns, he gives up any and all remaining control over the investigation and could end up in jail.  He's too arrogant to realize that the more they dig, the more they will find.  So he will never resign.
Link Posted: 3/13/2021 2:17:52 PM EDT
You guys are dreaming, the powers in the Democratic party want him out so they can consolidate all their commie powers, cumhole is more of a Nazi than a commie & they want him gone.
If he doesn't resign he will be impeached. + the Kennedy clan wants their pound of flesh for him fucking over Bobbies daughter, it just leaked that He was abusive to Kerry Kennedy, just a coincidence? Sure!
The Clintonistas are next!
Link Posted: 3/16/2021 6:55:37 PM EDT
Hillary will be the next governor of NY. As disgusting as it sounds, don't laugh.....it actually makes sense for the Dems. Female+ NY 'er+ far leftist+ ties to Washington+ Uber rich and powerful+nationally known.
Link Posted: 3/16/2021 9:17:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By exhogflyer:
Hillary will be the next governor of NY. As disgusting as it sounds, don't laugh.....it actually makes sense for the Dems. Female+ NY 'er+ far leftist+ ties to Washington+ Uber rich and powerful+nationally known.
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Nope, too white & not commie enough. If she steps up, She will be their next target!
Link Posted: 3/16/2021 9:47:02 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/16/2021 9:55:29 PM EDT
https://www.whec.com/news/biden-cuomo-should-resign-if-investigation-confirms-claims/6044574/?cat=565

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NEW YORK (AP) - President Joe Biden said Tuesday New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo should resign if the state attorney general's investigation confirms the sexual harassment allegations against him.

Biden made the remarks in an interview with ABC News that is scheduled to air Wednesday morning. When asked by anchor George Stephanopoulos if the investigation confirms the claims of the women, should Cuomo resign, Biden said “yes," adding, “I think he'd probably end up being prosecuted, too."

“It takes a lot of courage to come forward so the presumption is it should be taken seriously," Biden said. “And it should be investigated, and that’s what’s underway now.

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Link Posted: 3/22/2021 10:26:47 AM EDT
While Cuomo continues denial of Democrat accusations, a Republican admits error up front.

 https://fingerlakes1.com/2021/03/21/latest-rep-tom-reed-will-not-seek-re-election-or-run-for-governor-apologizes-for-past-behavior/

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