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Posted: 2/23/2021 9:43:39 PM EDT
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Hard to say.
We have different aircraft in and out all the time. F35s are here on occasion, even Harriers show up and they don't have in the intake on the bottom of the jet like the Viper. LOL, might have the answer for you but need more information like the number of tails, wing height and aircraft color. Did you catch the great looking 55th jet with the blue and white checker board on the tail and ventral fins? It looks very WWII looking. The jets are all getting a new all grey paint that is pretty crazy to see after all my years at looking at the two tone paint scheme. What work were you doing? The new stop strip install? Hit me up with a PM next time you are here, we can grab lunch. I may even show you around if time permits. |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 10:17:52 PM EDT
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@ErikS
You've met me at the meet up a couple years ago. I think the last time we met at Pawley's. I sat across the table from you. I was the "uncool" guy. It is my method of blending in!  I work in real estate. I am in and out of Sumter County regularly. Anymore I just try not to schedule around lunch because so may places wont let you eat inside. I am always on the run and tough to pin down We really need to get with d16 about having another get together!! Back to the planes. I was off Mayfield Rd. They were so low still that I could barely see them in level flight, but I saw them from the side and did not see the belly bump under the F-16. Looked thicker than F16. I saw them only from the side so I didn't notice multiple tails. Then, they went behind a patch of trees, took a hard 45+ degree turn right and up almost vertical toward the sun. Saw it as if I was above it. Fuselage got fat behind the cockpit, then the wings. Wings and tail blended together and I couldnt see the outline of the tail fins. Definite rumble to the thrust |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 10:24:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @ErikS You've met me at the meet up a couple years ago. I think the last time we met at Pawley's. I sat across the table from you. I was the "uncool" guy. It is my method of blending in! I work in real estate. I am in and out of Sumter County regularly. Anymore I just try not to schedule around lunch because so may places wont let you eat inside. I am always on the run and tough to pin down We really need to get with d16 about having another get together!! Back to the planes. I was off Mayfield Rd. They were so low still that I could barely see them in level flight, but I saw them from the side and did not see the belly bump under the F-16. Looked thicker than F16. I saw them only from the side so I didn't notice multiple tails. Then, they went behind a patch of trees, took a hard 45+ degree turn right and up almost vertical toward the sun. Saw it as if I was above it. Fuselage got fat behind the cockpit, then the wings. Wings and tail blended together and I couldnt see the outline of the tail fins. Definite rumble to the thrust Hard to say. If only 2, I would guess 35s. They come in from Beaufort often. Everything here tends to whine and Rumble. |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 10:28:11 PM EDT
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I am sure it's like living next to active railroad tracks, but it sure is cool for me to see.
Can't wait until the next Shawfest if this Covid crap don't put a halt to anything fun |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 11:00:03 PM EDT
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I was gonna guess 35's.
But, I struggle to identify aircraft that use the engines built by the company that recently littered in Denver. 
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Posted: 2/23/2021 11:02:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am sure it's like living next to active railroad tracks, but it sure is cool for me to see. Can't wait until the next Shawfest if this Covid crap don't put a halt to anything fun The noise has been my life since 1986. I only complain if it wakes me up. Hell I made the noise myself for many years. |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 11:40:44 PM EDT
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I was 15 in 86.
When Top Gun came out, I was Jonesing to be a Naval Aviator. I am sure I wouldn't have cut it, but my family was dead set against me joining up anyway as no one in my extended family had ever served since like the 1860's. Shoulda done it anyway |
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Posted: 2/24/2021 12:05:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was 15 in 86. When Top Gun came out, I was Jonesing to be a Naval Aviator. I am sure I wouldn't have cut it, but my family was dead set against me joining up anyway as no one in my extended family had ever served since like the 1860's. Shoulda done it anyway I was 17 in 86.  ETA. Oops. P&W engines are best engines. |
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Posted: 2/24/2021 7:15:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was 17 in 86. ETA. Oops. P&W engines are best engines. Pratts Splat and Killme Mine blew up when I was at Luke. |
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Posted: 2/24/2021 10:55:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Looked thicker than F16. All I need to know. F-35. pretty chunky air frames. Also ErikS, when were you at Luke? I ran the munitions storage area there in 1986. |
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Posted: 2/24/2021 10:58:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: All I need to know. F-35. pretty chunky air frames. Also ErikS, when were you at Luke? I ran the munitions storage area there in 1986. 94-00 |
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Posted: 2/24/2021 3:28:04 PM EDT
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The F-16s were definitely out today over the Manchester state forest area, always fun to see.
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Posted: 2/24/2021 8:27:32 PM EDT
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We had two 35s at the "office" today.
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Posted: 2/24/2021 8:28:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The F-16s were definitely out today over the Manchester state forest area, always fun to see. I am a deer hunting guide on that range. |
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Posted: 2/24/2021 9:00:25 PM EDT
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ARFCOM is psychic.
I was coming down 521 today and thought that I saw some “non F-16” airplanes. But, upon closer inspection,  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/24/2021 9:06:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ARFCOM is psychic. I was coming down 521 today and thought that I saw some “non F-16” airplanes. But, upon closer inspection, https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/55995/F1428FE7-A4DF-4EF7-ABB3-EAFC742021FB_jpe-1840030.JPG Yeah, that's a Viper. |
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Posted: 2/24/2021 9:53:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, that's a Viper. Yeah, I was way up the road when I thought it was something else. I was a little disappointed that it was just some F-16s. |
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Posted: 2/24/2021 10:13:46 PM EDT
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Remember, many people have never seen them in flight and in real life. What we think of as "meh" would excite some people more than porn.
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Posted: 2/25/2021 7:24:51 AM EDT
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Well, this is ARFCOM where we are all married to supermodels.
When I was a kid, we would ride our bicycles way farther than our parents knew to watch A-10s and F-4s from the barbed wire fence outside of the range. As an adult, I’ll still stop or slow down to see planes low and slow around town. |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 9:30:16 AM EDT
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Thanks Erik and others.
What you guys do is pretty cool to have done or even made a career out of. Thanks for including me in the "shop talk". Due to my work, I have met so many guys/gals from the base from both AF/Army/Civilian. It has always been a good experience for me when working with military people even though I still couldn't tell you what TDY(and many other acronyms) means. |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 11:33:12 AM EDT
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We will be having an open house again as soon as this rona shit calms down.
I will offer to the local folks myself as a tour guide. I am heavily involved in the event as part of my job. We will do an ARFCOM meetup here with me as your host. Folks with base access should stay in touch with me. Ya never can tell what I can arrange on slower work days. |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 12:28:09 PM EDT
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Count me and my family in.
I have had a great time at previous Shaw fest. At the last one, I managed to find myself right in front of where the planes briefly stopped after performing on their way to parking. That was great. During the low flyovers and conside ring how bad my tinnitus is, it is great when I feel the noise as much as hear it!! |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 2:12:54 PM EDT
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I thought I heard my name and food mentioned.....
I see 16s over Lexington all the time. Oh, and I never lived in the 70's. 
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Posted: 2/25/2021 4:48:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I thought I heard my name and food mentioned..... I see 16s over Lexington all the time. Oh, and I never lived in the 70's. Whippersnapper!!! Let me tell you about dem dere olden days called the 70s and 80s when growin up was good!!
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Posted: 2/25/2021 6:26:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Whippersnapper!!! Let me tell you about dem dere olden days called the 70s and 80s when growin up was good!! I miss the 80s.  Wish I had lived in the 60s and 70s, I think I would have enjoyed it. Probably too much. |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 8:46:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Whippersnapper!!! Let me tell you about dem dere olden days called the 70s and 80s when growin up was good!! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I thought I heard my name and food mentioned..... I see 16s over Lexington all the time. Oh, and I never lived in the 70's. Whippersnapper!!! Let me tell you about dem dere olden days called the 70s and 80s when growin up was good!! And when J-79 engines could ingest rocks, bolts, ducks, etc. without loss of airframe and pilot. 
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Posted: 3/1/2021 2:34:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 94-00 Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: All I need to know. F-35. pretty chunky air frames. Also ErikS, when were you at Luke? I ran the munitions storage area there in 1986. 94-00 I was also at Luke, 1993-2001. 63rd, then went across the ramp to shut down the 550th and 461st. Went back to the 63rd until I got tagged for orders. 2A676 |
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Posted: 3/1/2021 3:46:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was also at Luke, 1993-2001. 63rd, then went across the ramp to shut down the 550th and 461st. Went back to the 63rd until I got tagged for orders. 2A676 So, how did all that fall out when the 56th was transferred to Luke from MacDill? I was in the 56th TTW at MacDill, then the 58th TTW at Luke. The 58th TTW shared the base with the 405th TTW, this was in 1986-1987. The 58th EMS had sole responsibility for the munitions storage area, we supported both wings. It is my understanding the 56th was the last man standing, after both the 58th and 405th were deactivated. edit: after posting the above I got curious and read the wiki article on Luke. Man, you need a scorecard to keep track of all the Wing and squadron changes during the late 80's to mid 90's. Also, the Wiki mentioned the munitions storage area being located outside the main base perimeter, but i never heard that mentioned in my time there. It was all inside the base fence as far as I remember. |
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Posted: 3/2/2021 9:01:08 AM EDT
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I have to admit, I didn't really pay much attention to the changes as they were happening. Where the planes were going, why they were shutting down the squadrons.....I figured it was just the normal chaos of the Clinton era USAF. Hell, my tech school, first, and second bases were shut down and closed entirely during the same time. (Chanute, Bitburg, and King Salmon)
I worked the F-15s at the 461st--minimal flying during the shut down phase and we were just fixing delayed discrepancies and doing routine scheduled maintenance. If you remember, flightline operations were normally staffed at about 80-85% during the Clinton years. As the jets left one by one, we wound up with more troops than we needed, and we were working 2 on, 2 off....it was like a vacation. When we got down to the last 2 hangar queens, we still had about 65% of our initial staff and then the 550th absorbed the 461st.....so we had something like 150% manning for a full squadron and life got even easier as those planes left. I was getting bored, just sitting around so I requested a transfer back to the 63rd. |
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Posted: 3/2/2021 11:24:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hell, my tech school, first, and second bases were shut down and closed entirely during the same time. (Chanute, Bitburg, and King Salmon) Yep, Lowry AFB in Denver where I attended both enlisted armament technician and officer munitions schools, closed during that period. I visited Denver a few years ago and if it were not for the Wings over the Rockies aviation museum in the old Hanger 1, you would never know there had been an AFB there. Most of the base is now housing developments. Kind of sad looking at it. |
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Posted: 3/4/2021 9:32:22 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I was also at Luke, 1993-2001. 63rd, then went across the ramp to shut down the 550th and 461st. Went back to the 63rd until I got tagged for orders. 2A676 308th |
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Posted: 3/4/2021 9:35:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep, Lowry AFB in Denver where I attended both enlisted armament technician and officer munitions schools, closed during that period. I visited Denver a few years ago and if it were not for the Wings over the Rockies aviation museum in the old Hanger 1, you would never know there had been an AFB there. Most of the base is now housing developments. Kind of sad looking at it. I went to tech school at Lowry. I first saw fighter aircraft in that hangar. |
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Posted: 3/4/2021 9:42:19 PM EDT
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Cool, we shared some scenery, just different years it seems. I take it you are a pilot, what tech school did you attend at Lowry?
@ErikS |
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Posted: 3/5/2021 2:52:06 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Cool, we shared some scenery, just different years it seems. I take it you are a pilot, what tech school did you attend at Lowry? @ErikS Retired maintainer, 462/2W1 at Lowry in 86. 2A3 is a complicated story. No tech school required for me. Waivered. |
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Posted: 3/5/2021 10:07:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Retired maintainer, 462/2W1 at Lowry in 86. 2A3 is a complicated story. No tech school required for me. Waivered. I attended the 462 school in 1979. Later went to OTS, then attended the 4054 munitions officer school there in 1983. |
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Posted: 3/5/2021 5:59:45 PM EDT
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Speaking of Shaw:
 Attached FileMcIntyre:  Attached FileParris Island: (Not to be confused with MCAS ) Attached File |
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Posted: 3/6/2021 8:54:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Speaking of Shaw: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/55995/831FCB92-B6E8-4196-BA51-030AFF31AB1D_jpe-1852816.JPG McIntyre: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/55995/848C63ED-AC37-43F9-8415-C7AD7AD1793D_jpe-1852818.JPG Parris Island: (Not to be confused with MCAS )https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/55995/90FE3812-1040-447B-949D-48D0E25E9253_jpe-1852820.JPG If you look closely you can see me in picture 1. |
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Posted: 3/6/2021 10:03:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you look closely you can see me in picture 1. Well, I was waving the whole time.
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Posted: 3/7/2021 11:48:55 AM EDT
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Im on some type of flight pattern for multiple units. I have a great video of F15s coming over my house at less than 1000ft. That happens once or twice a month at least. I get the F16s doing flights at probably 3 to 5000k. Apaches that do low level a mile or two from the house. Transport helicopters at high level
Still havent figured out if the F15s are from Seymour or Atlanta. |
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Posted: 3/7/2021 4:26:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Im on some type of flight pattern for multiple units. I have a great video of F15s coming over my house at less than 1000ft. That happens once or twice a month at least. I get the F16s doing flights at probably 3 to 5000k. Apaches that do low level a mile or two from the house. Transport helicopters at high level Still havent figured out if the F15s are from Seymour or Atlanta. Dark Grey. SJ Give me a general local town and I can tell you what MOA or range you may be near. If you aren’t near Manchester then odds are it is in one of the areas called Gamecock, of course. Georgia has range space called Bulldog. Go figure. |
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Posted: 3/8/2021 11:40:35 AM EDT
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Theres really nothing near me. Ive looked at the vfr map and im probably 70 miles from the closest gamecock range as im kinda near the upstate.
Fil is retired AF and still flies for the DoD. I send him video and pictures all the time and he doesnt know what route it is. This is a still of a video of one of F15s going over...they come in 2s or 6s  They come in lower than that as well |
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Posted: 3/8/2021 11:52:55 AM EDT
[#42]
Could be
SnowBird. Let me look. |
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Posted: 3/8/2021 12:08:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Could be SnowBird. Let me look. Saw that one but figured it was to far away as its about 100 miles. All the jets come from a northeast to southwest axis, F16s and 15s. Eitherway its not a big deal just neat. |
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Posted: 3/16/2021 12:24:23 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/16/2021 1:02:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryNope. Nobody is home right now. The entire wing is gone. |
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Posted: 3/19/2021 9:13:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks Erik and others. What you guys do is pretty cool to have done or even made a career out of. Thanks for including me in the "shop talk". Due to my work, I have met so many guys/gals from the base from both AF/Army/Civilian. It has always been a good experience for me when working with military people even though I still couldn't tell you what TDY(and many other acronyms) means. When I was in iraq on one of my deployments, we got a box of letters from school kids. One of the two I happened to look at said “Dear US Soldier, do you fly planes or drive a tank? If not, nevermind” and that was the end of that letter. Apparently stalking the streets in the dark (or in broad daylight) isn’t cool enough. Only things that are loud and go fast impress anyone
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