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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Need help moving my SBR’s from Florida to IL

Posted: 6/28/2018 6:11:15 PM EDT

Hey guys, I have an issue I need help with. I filled out the forms for moving my SBR’s back in Feb. Got a call from the ATF in April telling me if I knew that AR’s are not allowed in Chicago. Yes. I did. I then realized I used the wrong address. I told the agent. He said to go ahead and fill out a new one. He was going to reject this one. SBR’s will be kept in Lombard, IL. I fill out the form and send them in. So finally now beginning of June, I get the new form back stamped VIOLATION OF STATE LAW. WtF???
I need help please!! Any advice will be greatly appreciated.
These were done on a trust a few years ago on Fl. I also do have a C&R License.

Posted: 6/28/2018 6:37:16 PM EDT

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Hey guys, I have an issue I need help with. I filled out the forms for moving my SBR’s back in Feb. Got a call from the ATF in April telling me if I knew that AR’s are not allowed in Chicago. Yes. I did. I then realized I used the wrong address. I told the agent. He said to go ahead and fill out a new one. He was going to reject this one. SBR’s will be kept in Lombard, IL. I fill out the form and send them in. So finally now beginning of June, I get the new form back stamped VIOLATION OF STATE LAW. WtF???
I need help please!! Any advice will be greatly appreciated.
These were done on a trust a few years ago on Fl. I also do have a C&R License.

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Do they provide any contact info for inquiries?

Lombard is DuPage County and no AWB or mag restrictions there. C&R required (or alternatively IIRC, a reenactors membership) for SBR per state law. Others will know more but the only thing I can think of might be that IL law does not allow a trust to own an SBR but I dont know how that works going from a place that allows to one that does not.

We do have an SBR thread pinned at top of page if you don't get a clear response in this one.

Posted: 6/29/2018 9:56:30 AM EDT

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Ok, spoke to someone at the NFA Branch at the ATF. The Form I sent in was correct and all was good, but I did not write in my C&R License number on the form. Even though it does not ask for it. Person said just to write it somewhere on the form.
New forms sent in this morning. I wrote the number on there in two places and I also attached a copy of it. Let's see what happens.

Posted: 6/29/2018 6:34:26 PM EDT

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Illinois doesn't allow trusts to own SBR's. SBR's have to be owned by an individual with a C&R.

Posted: 6/29/2018 9:46:11 PM EDT

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Illinois doesn't allow trusts to own SBR's. SBR's have to be owned by an individual with a C&R.

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This.

You may get lucky, but when I called ATF ~18mos ago and asked if I could move one here from MT (sbr in trust) I was told the paperwork would be approved by ATF but denied by IL

Let us know if you get lucky

Posted: 7/3/2018 10:53:50 AM EDT

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Ok, so planning ahead. What would I need to do to change over from trust to individual? Do I have to go through the whole process? and pay again?

Posted: 7/3/2018 11:58:21 AM EDT

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Be prepared for an AWB next year if we get a new governor. Being an NFA item “ it fell off my boat” will not due when they come knocking.

Posted: 7/3/2018 9:05:15 PM EDT

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Ok, so planning ahead. What would I need to do to change over from trust to individual? Do I have to go through the whole process? and pay again?

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Yes. You'll have to form 4 them to yourself and pay the man all over again.

Posted: 7/8/2018 1:25:02 AM EDT

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Or ...

I heard about a guy who setup a trust in WI and keeps them there ;)

Posted: 7/11/2018 11:17:26 AM EDT

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Not paying again. Will probably just leave the uppers in FL and just build new 16" uppers or just forget AR's in general and build a nice bolt action. I only need 5 years here, then I am out!!!

Posted: 7/12/2018 4:03:27 PM EDT

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How many are we talking about? I'd think about building some cheap pistol lowers since you're not going to be a long term resident.

Posted: 7/12/2018 4:05:41 PM EDT

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Not paying again. Will probably just leave the uppers in FL and just build new 16" uppers or just forget AR's in general and build a nice bolt action. I only need 5 years here, then I am out!!!

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Can you be a resident of one state with an NFA item in a different state?

Posted: 9/14/2018 1:30:44 PM EDT

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Just an update if anyone is interested. Form 5320.20 has been approved!!! So my SBR's are now legal for me to keep in Illinois (not Chicago of course). After 6 months going back and forth, finally I am good to go!
Specifics - SBR under trust in Florida (I already had a C&R License)
Submissions as follows:
1 - 5320.20 filled and submitted via email.

Denied due to address in Chicago (My fault)

2 - Re-submitted with correct address where they will be kept.

Denied due to "Violating state Law" - The ATF guy I guess thought AR's not allowed in Illinois.

3 - Re-submitted with C&R License after speaking with another agent

Application was lost

4 - Re-submitted after speaking to the head of the department and complained about the issues.

Received approval 4 days later!!

Posted: 9/14/2018 5:25:38 PM EDT

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Congrats and thanks for the update.

Posted: 9/15/2018 12:30:31 PM EDT

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And after the election the state will pass and the new governor will sign a ban on all such rifles and hi caps. Be prepared to be disappointed in your move.

Posted: 9/15/2018 1:19:15 PM EDT

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And after the election the state will pass and the new governor will sign a ban on all such rifles and hi caps. Be prepared to be disappointed in your move.

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Vote. And get others to vote.

Vote for Rauner.
Vote for Harold.
Vote for your pro gun state Senator candidates.
Vote for your pro gun state Representative candidates.

Posted: 9/15/2018 11:18:23 PM EDT

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Vote. And get others to vote.

Vote for Rauner.
Vote for Harold.
Vote for your pro gun state Senator candidates.
Vote for your pro gun state Representative candidates.

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Yup. Vote for Rauner.

Posted: 9/29/2018 10:15:37 PM EDT

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How many SBR's?

What form (rifle,pistol, other) were they filled out as?

I have an SBR, that lives life as a rifle here. I also have a pistol (other formed) lower for my 8.5" 300blk.

You could always buy braces for your SBR's until you get things cleared up.....or move to Indiana.

Posted: 10/1/2018 4:15:47 PM EDT

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Its only 3 SBR's. a 12.5" 5.56, a 12" 300BLK and a 12" 6.5G.
They are on a Form 1 as rifle lowers.
I don't care for pistol ARs with or without braces. I keep them all in Lombard in a safe. Now all legal, just can't bring them into Chicago.

Posted: 10/2/2018 8:24:23 AM EDT

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And next year at this time we’ll all be felons if we still own these items. Your state Government has big plans for your MSRs.

Posted: 10/5/2018 12:37:46 AM EDT

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And next year at this time we’ll all be felons if we still own these items. Your state Government has big plans for your MSRs.

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You must be the same person who posts on ILCarry that has been worried sick about a ban and has been selling guns at a loss to cabelas.

At this point it seems like you just gave up.

[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Need help moving my SBR’s from Florida to IL

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