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Posted: 3/22/2024 6:37:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: garr]
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Westchester already has this. Actually, since 1912. And it's in PL 2.10.
I don't know how Nassau can do it without amending PL 2.10 to make these guys peace officers. And they would have to go through the NYS-mandated training. |
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Originally Posted By garr: Nassau County seeks armed deputies What is this all about? In NY? Commies are going to go nuts! View Quote Second of all, this has been the story with Aux. Police for decades (and they're a joke, though less so in Suffolk). Third of all, where do I sign up? |
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I got the email. I do not have a Nassau County PL so do not qualify. The application deadline is March 31st and it would probably take until March 31, 2025 to get a Nassau County pistol license.
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Again, it's a great idea. But how can they legally do it without amending PL 2.10 to give the Deputies police powers?
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Originally Posted By batjka104: Again, it's a great idea. But how can they legally do it without amending PL 2.10 to give the Deputies police powers? View Quote |
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Originally Posted By emsjeep: They have super citizen powers. They carry civilian legal weapons and detain for crimes committed in their presence and otherwise defend themselves. Nothing wrong with a citizen's arrest, View Quote Would you follow orders, be detained, or arrested by folks who don't have official powers in the State Law? Perhaps the plan is to make them Deputies under Nassau Sherriff, but Nassau Sheriff Deputies are police officers in the PL. No way would these emergency Deputies are going through the required training to qualify. Peace Officer training is easier to go through. But there is no designation in the PL for such Peace Officers. |
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Originally Posted By batjka104: Would you follow orders, be detained, or arrested by folks who don't have official powers in the State Law? Perhaps the plan is to make them Deputies under Nassau Sherriff, but Nassau Sheriff Deputies are police officers in the PL. No way would these emergency Deputies are going through the required training to qualify. Peace Officer training is easier to go through. But there is no designation in the PL for such Peace Officers. View Quote |
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Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Fiat justitia ruat caelum. What we leave behind is not as important as how we lived. |
Auxiliaries don't have arrest powers as per PL 2.10, unless a state of war or national disaster is declared.
Now if, per the email that was quoted, Nassau wants to give the new Deputies police power, they need to amend PL 2.10 to designate them as Peace Officers. Simple. |
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Originally Posted By batjka104: Auxiliaries don't have arrest powers as per PL 2.10, unless a state of war or national disaster is declared. Now if, per the email that was quoted, Nassau wants to give the new Deputies police power, they need to amend PL 2.10 to designate them as Peace Officers. Simple. View Quote |
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Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Fiat justitia ruat caelum. What we leave behind is not as important as how we lived. |
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Here's the NYS County Law 655:
"For the protection of human life and property during an emergency, the sheriff may deputize orally or in writing such number of additional special deputies as he deems necessary. If he is unable to continue the services of such special deputies without compensation, he may pay the compensation of any such special deputies in such amount as the board of supervisors may determine for each day any such special deputy is actually engaged in assisting him in the performance of his duties, or in assisting any other sheriff who has declared a state of special emergency, pursuant to the provisions of section two hundred nine-f of the general municipal law, with the permission of the sheriff who deputized him. If the board of supervisors shall fail to fix the compensation of such special deputies, the sheriff may fix such compensation at not exceeding three dollars per hour for each such special deputy. The compensation of any special deputy so appointed shall be a county charge. The board of supervisors may direct the manner of payment including a direction of approval for such payment by the chairman of a designated committee of the board". |
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Originally Posted By emsjeep: How does one apply? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By emsjeep: Originally Posted By Aardvark: I got the email. I do not have a Nassau County PL so do not qualify. The application deadline is March 31st and it would probably take until March 31, 2025 to get a Nassau County pistol license. Regardless, getting a license in Nassau is about as difficult if not more so than New York City. There is no 2nd Amendment in Nassau and the Bruen is meaningless here. |
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The killer is the waiver of liability.
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Originally Posted By secamp32: The killer is the waiver of liability. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By garr: +1, Do cop stuff in an emergency, but if something goes sideways you get personally sued for doing cop stuff. Cops get named personally all the time in lawsuits. If you’re actions are procedurally/legaly sound then your generally given QI/indemnification and not personally liable. Sounds to me like you’d be waiving county liabilty if you’re injured. Read that as no workman’s comp, no aided number, no disability. On your own health insurance. County’s still on the hook for your actions. |
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