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Link Posted: 5/6/2019 7:05:54 PM EDT
[#1]
Wow! Very good!
Link Posted: 5/6/2019 7:25:44 PM EDT
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Off sent an email saying the republicans are walking out.
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And the dems are probably saying "good riddance!"

I hope the tactic works and we can stop this ridiculous bill.
Link Posted: 5/7/2019 2:55:25 PM EDT
[#3]
Did they walk out?

I hope so.
Link Posted: 5/7/2019 4:58:09 PM EDT
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Supposedly the Republicans did walk out.  For how long I don’t know. Oregon state police could arrest them and bring them back. They would all have to leave the state. The democrats could call a special session and bring all this back. Some of these bills may die.
Link Posted: 5/12/2019 12:05:01 PM EDT
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There has got to be a way to correct this political railroading. No one, even the dems constituents, wants this bill. This is all about a paycheck and vengeance for the Dems. They are trying to get back at us for shooting them down the last time they tried to railroad us.

This is getting old.
Link Posted: 5/13/2019 10:15:51 PM EDT
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The bill is dead as of now. The dems killed it to get everyone back so they could pass a huge tax bill on small business.
Link Posted: 5/13/2019 11:09:23 PM EDT
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The bill is dead as of now. The dems killed it to get everyone back so they could pass a huge tax bill on small business.
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The tax bill must have been more valuable than Bloomberg’s check. MUCH bigger!
Link Posted: 5/14/2019 4:48:59 PM EDT
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The passed a bill to tax small business on gross income. So if you build something, like boats or RVs and you sell $2,000,000 worth of boats but the cost of materials and payrole for your employees come to $1,900,000... Well you'll probably just go out of business.

Dems don't quite seem to understand how things work. Whenever I'm talking to one I feel like I'm conversing with a 12~ year old.

The first thing my mother said was "how long before they lower it to $100,000?"

So companies will just move out of state or overseas and oregonians can spend our welfare checks on imported stuff.
Link Posted: 5/14/2019 5:36:43 PM EDT
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The passed a bill to tax small business on gross income. So if you build something, like boats or RVs and you sell $2,000,000 worth of boats but the cost of materials and payrole for your employees come to $1,900,000... Well you'll probably just go out of business.

Dems don't quite seem to understand how things work. Whenever I'm talking to one I feel like I'm conversing with a 12~ year old.

The first thing my mother said was "how long before they lower it to $100,000?"

So companies will just move out of state or overseas and oregonians can spend our welfare checks on imported stuff.
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Exactly.  This bill is going to be fatal for a lot of businesses, especially farms.  I’m still not sure why they didn’t just stay home until the end of the session.
Link Posted: 5/14/2019 9:43:07 PM EDT
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It's .57% of gross receipts, with the first $1M exempted, and a deduction from the gross receipts for either labor or purchases... I believe that was set at 35%?  And I don't recall if it was materials purchases or capital equipment...

So in the example above, $2M in receipts/yr on $1.9M in expenses (let's assume it's $1M in labor and $900K in purchases/capital, so the labor is higher and is what gets deducted) the total liability would be $3,705.00.  (($2M-$1M)-($1M*.35))*.0057=$3,705.00.

Supposedly there are a few other exemptions and deductions for specific things, too.  I haven't gone through it in detail.

I'm certainly not in favor of this tax, don't get me wrong.  It's a money-grab for the already-bloated general fund, and little (if any) will actually go to education, and I don't even think education spending is in a "crisis" or whatever they want to call it.  But that said, mark my words, few businesses are going to close up or leave the state over this.  You'd have to be a pretty high-margin small business to really get hurt by this; conversely, if you're low-margin, you probably don't have the funds to up and leave, and you'll stick it out by trimming costs somewhere else.  Some of the cost will get passed on to customers, but that's a bit of a game too because the tax is on gross receipts, not profit.  So if you raise prices, you're basically just raising your own liability.

This is essentially aimed at medium and large businesses that can afford to cough up the money, but are too big or entrenched to seriously entertain leaving, and that's totally by design.

I work at a family-owned business that WILL be heavily impacted by this, and lobbied very hard against it.  It sucks, but we're not going anywhere... it's certainly been considered.  The fact that Oregon doesn't have a sales tax still figures in positively, for now.

I've got to give the Republicans props on this... they gave it their best shot, and managed to (mostly) can the shitty gun bill in the process.  Oregon Republicans finally showed something resembling a backbone.  I don't think it will be enough in the long term, but oh well...
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