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Posted: 4/28/2021 10:06:18 PM EDT
https://www.ammoland.com/2021/04/louisiana-considers-constitutional-carry-in-2021-sb118-passes-senate-committee/

We need to pound on our Senators and Reps. The tool Edwards said he will veto. Thanks to all the fools that voted for him. We need to pick off a few libtards for a veto proof majority.

https://bearingarms.com/camedwards/2021/04/23/louisiana-governor-says-hell-veto-constitutional-carry-bill-n44117

Hit them hard hit them often.
Link Posted: 4/29/2021 1:03:38 PM EDT
I was there, we had about 100 people and took up all the seats. The moms demand action loonies had to stand out in the hall.
Link Posted: 4/29/2021 1:43:43 PM EDT
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I was there, we had about 100 people and took up all the seats. The moms demand action loonies had to stand out in the hall.
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That's good to hear and thank you to all the folks that showed up. Now lets hope we can get the independents or a couple of libs to come to their senses.
Link Posted: 4/29/2021 2:08:17 PM EDT
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That's good to hear and thank you to all the folks that showed up. Now lets hope we can get the independents or a couple of libs to come to their senses.
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Originally Posted By MikeS369:
Originally Posted By chibajoe:
I was there, we had about 100 people and took up all the seats. The moms demand action loonies had to stand out in the hall.


That's good to hear and thank you to all the folks that showed up. Now lets hope we can get the independents or a couple of libs to come to their senses.


Surprisingly enough, the libertarians were there testifying in favor of the bills.  It's going to be a hard sell, however, because LE was vocally against us.
Link Posted: 5/2/2021 1:01:04 PM EDT
Very cool. I certainly hope that it passes at some point.
Link Posted: 5/2/2021 5:31:55 PM EDT
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I’ve been pushing my legislators to vote for it, but considering JBE has already taken a veto stance on the bill, I doubt it will go through.

Read through this thread for some info on the veto process in LA (near bottom of page 2). Essentially, once a veto is issued, there are time limits that very well could help prevent the legislature from pushing it through. My guess is that the veto is signed so that the legislature vote would occur after the end of the session such that they chose not to have a veto override session.

I think the ONLY reason we are seeing the support in the legislature that we have is because they know it won’t pass but they still get that “pro-2nd” notch in their belt for future pandering to our base.

https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/politics/constitutional-carry-passed-senate/96139058/

I guess I’m a bit of a pessimist.
Link Posted: 5/3/2021 9:12:22 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Captain_Morgan:
I’ve been pushing my legislators to vote for it, but considering JBE has already taken a veto stance on the bill, I doubt it will go through.

Read through this thread for some info on the veto process in LA (near bottom of page 2). Essentially, once a veto is issued, there are time limits that very well could help prevent the legislature from pushing it through. My guess is that the veto is signed so that the legislature vote would occur after the end of the session such that they chose not to have a veto override session.

I think the ONLY reason we are seeing the support in the legislature that we have is because they know it won’t pass but they still get that “pro-2nd” notch in their belt for future pandering to our base.

https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/politics/constitutional-carry-passed-senate/96139058/

I guess I’m a bit of a pessimist.
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I don't know, there were a lot of serious people there talking serious stuff for it to be just a dog and pony show.  I think Morris is serious about getting it passed, and (on the face of it, at least) he seems politically astute enough to not waste the capitol unless he knows it has a good chance to pass.  He was pissed McCormick brought up a competing bill (HB16).
Link Posted: 5/4/2021 4:49:48 PM EDT
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Email from Danny McCormick

UPDATE
HB16: The People's Constitutional Carry Bill

HB16 was heard in committee this week. We made flight arrangements for Dr. John Lott, Jr. to testify in favor. He is an economist and world-recognized expert on guns and crime who recently served in the Trump Administration as Senior Advisor for Research and Statistics for the US Dept. of Justice.

Dr. Lott arrived ready to share a plethora of information with us, but the debate quickly turned personal and it was quite unfortunate.
HB16 was killed by an 8-4 vote.

We had no warning of the political animosity we would walk into during that hearing, BUT, I will not be wasting my energy on the negative. There are more important things going on, including the fight for liberty in Louisiana!

WHAT’S NEXT? There are two remaining bills [SB118 and HB596] in play that contain language similar to HB16. I will work to ensure those bills continue successfully and reflect Constitutional Carry.

I am encouraging Louisiana’s 2nd Amendment supporters to continue pushing for a true Constitutional Carry bill!!

As Ronald Reagan once said, “There is no limit to the amount of good you can do if you don't care who gets the credit.”

Now is NOT the time to back down!! We can still make 2021 the year Louisiana becomes a Constitutional Carry state!  

#mccormick4la

Seriously wtf is wrong with republicans?
Link Posted: 5/4/2021 6:07:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MikeS369:
Email from Danny McCormick

UPDATE
HB16: The People's Constitutional Carry Bill

HB16 was heard in committee this week. We made flight arrangements for Dr. John Lott, Jr. to testify in favor. He is an economist and world-recognized expert on guns and crime who recently served in the Trump Administration as Senior Advisor for Research and Statistics for the US Dept. of Justice.

Dr. Lott arrived ready to share a plethora of information with us, but the debate quickly turned personal and it was quite unfortunate.
HB16 was killed by an 8-4 vote.

We had no warning of the political animosity we would walk into during that hearing, BUT, I will not be wasting my energy on the negative. There are more important things going on, including the fight for liberty in Louisiana!

WHAT’S NEXT? There are two remaining bills [SB118 and HB596] in play that contain language similar to HB16. I will work to ensure those bills continue successfully and reflect Constitutional Carry.

I am encouraging Louisiana’s 2nd Amendment supporters to continue pushing for a true Constitutional Carry bill!!

As Ronald Reagan once said, “There is no limit to the amount of good you can do if you don't care who gets the credit.”

Now is NOT the time to back down!! We can still make 2021 the year Louisiana becomes a Constitutional Carry state!  

#mccormick4la

Seriously wtf is wrong with republicans?
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I got the impression that McCormick was the problem.  The only real difference between his bill and Morris' was the age and no provision for training.  Morris put the training provision in there as an olive branch, since that seems to be the thing cops seemed to have a big problem with.  The McCormick bill had absolutely no chance to pass, but he brought it up for vote anyway, even though he (and Dr. Lott) would have been more useful supporting SB118.  As for him claiming to be blindsided, I doubt that: he was super nervous up at the table, and knew Morris was pissed.  I'll bet he didn't clue Dr. Lott in on the political infighting either, which is a shame since his testimony could have been more helpful had it been allied with the less antagonistic bill.
Link Posted: 5/4/2021 6:21:20 PM EDT
I see HB596 is scheduled for floor debate tomorrow. Hit your reps.
Link Posted: 5/4/2021 6:24:30 PM EDT
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I got the impression that McCormick was the problem.  The only real difference between his bill and Morris' was the age and no provision for training.  Morris put the training provision in there as an olive branch, since that seems to be the thing cops seemed to have a big problem with.  The McCormick bill had absolutely no chance to pass, but he brought it up for vote anyway, even though he (and Dr. Lott) would have been more useful supporting SB118.  As for him claiming to be blindsided, I doubt that: he was super nervous up at the table, and knew Morris was pissed.  I'll bet he didn't clue Dr. Lott in on the political infighting either, which is a shame since his testimony could have been more helpful had it been allied with the less antagonistic bill.
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That is what it sounds like to me and if that is the case McCormick is being a tool. Hell the training provision is for no cost voluntary online training. A 1 hour course you are not required to take.
Link Posted: 5/5/2021 6:44:55 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/5/2021 6:55:07 PM EDT
That’s a hell of a majority.
Link Posted: 5/5/2021 9:58:54 PM EDT
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Just saw on tigerdroppings HB596 passed 72-28. A veto proof majority.

https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/politics/hb596-constitutional-carry-passes-house/96240960/

http://www.legis.la.gov/legis/BillInfo.aspx?&i=240570
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A veto proof majority? Help a non political person understand. Will permit-less carry pass or can Bobby Bouche’s father still kill it at his desk?
Link Posted: 5/6/2021 12:36:39 AM EDT
I believe the House passed bill goes to the Senate, who also passed a bill, where the two bill will be reconciled. We still have a ways to go. If a passed bill finds its way to the governor, he can and has said he will veto it. The bills that have passed in the Senate and House both passed by a veto proof majority. If the tool vetoes the bill both the Senate and House can override the veto with a super majority. We will find out who was posturing and who truly are in favor of the bill.
Link Posted: 5/6/2021 8:00:07 AM EDT
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My understanding is that after a bill is vetoed, it goes back to the legislature for re-vote. The issue is that if it is vetoed late enough in the session and arrives at the legislature after a normal session ends, then the legislature has to decide if they want to reconvene and re-vote on vetoed bills. From what I read, they usually say fuck it and cancel that session, so if this thing has a chance, they need to move quick.

ETA: It looks like the regular session ends June 10.
Link Posted: 5/21/2021 11:37:51 AM EDT
https://bearingarms.com/tomknighton/2021/05/21/permitless-carry-3-n45506

Howdy from Texas.  We've been hammering our elected officials here to get Constitutional Carry passed, and are on the verge of getting it done.  At the start of the session, it was given a low chance of passing, but a huge amount of involvement from gun owners has pushed it to almost accomplished.  We have a 19 page post on the subject in the Texas board, and it's been a great place to trade off information about the bill, and how to contact reps.

Hope you guys can get it done too.  It really does make a huge difference to contact your reps about it.  Even 5-10 phone calls can move a rep on an issu
Link Posted: 5/21/2021 11:45:01 AM EDT
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Howdy from Texas.  We've been hammering our elected officials here to get Constitutional Carry passed, and are on the verge of getting it done.  At the start of the session, it was given a low chance of passing, but a huge amount of involvement from gun owners has pushed it to almost accomplished.  We have a 19 page post on the subject in the Texas board, and it's been a great place to trade off information about the bill, and how to contact reps.

Hope you guys can get it done too.  It really does make a huge difference to contact your reps about it.  Even 5-10 phone calls can move a rep on an issu
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Link Posted: 5/22/2021 9:46:13 AM EDT
There’s three weeks left in session. That’s not encouraging.
Link Posted: 5/22/2021 1:34:26 PM EDT
It's BEEN past time for this to happen.  Unfortunately the LEO's are staunchly against it and apparently carry a lot of weight.  They want the permit money to pad their slush funds.  Good luck and I hope it passes but I'm not holding my breath.  This is the most corrupt state in the union after all.
Link Posted: 5/24/2021 10:54:02 PM EDT
In almost all states, any permit money goes to the State Police agency that runs the permit, not individual agencies.  And it's always the big city chiefs, who are the hired slaves of the mayor and city council, who gas huff the most about the horror of CC.

So what's the status of CC in LA?  I read the headline that the House committee passed the SB118 bill?  What happens next - a vote by the full House on the bill?  What reps should you all contact to keep the heat on them - Speaker of the House?

CC passed the Texas Legislature today, and will be signed into law later this week or early next.  Good times.  21 states now and climbing.  C'mon LA, get it to 22.

Link Posted: 5/25/2021 12:24:37 AM EDT
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In almost all states, any permit money goes to the State Police agency that runs the permit, not individual agencies.  And it's always the big city chiefs, who are the hired slaves of the mayor and city council, who gas huff the most about the horror of CC.

So what's the status of CC in LA?  I read the headline that the House committee passed the SB118 bill?  What happens next - a vote by the full House on the bill?  What reps should you all contact to keep the heat on them - Speaker of the House?

CC passed the Texas Legislature today, and will be signed into law later this week or early next.  Good times.  21 states now and climbing.  C'mon LA, get it to 22.

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The House bill went to the Senate (the Senate also passed a bill) and I believe the 2 bills have to be reconciled. I'm not sure if a vote will need to be taken in both the Senate and House on the reconciled bill. Probably has to be a vote. When passed it goes to the Gov who will either veto it or not sign and run out the clock on the session. If he vetoes it and the session ends, the legislature can call a special session and override the veto.

My guess is the session ends and nothing happens. I just contacted my rep telling him to move on the bill that time is running out and that Texas now has Constitution Carry. Basically trying to light a fire under his ass. This is what happens when morons vote for a democrat Governor even though Louisiana is a red state.
Link Posted: 6/1/2021 6:07:06 PM EDT
Passed today June 1st, Jon Bel will likely wait 10 days and veto leaving no time for veto override since the session ends June 10, and the last veto override session was like 39 years ago.  So yet another waste of time from the legislature.
Link Posted: 6/1/2021 7:00:31 PM EDT
Did it pass with a large enough percentage to override a veto?  

If so, holler at your reps and tell them you want this overridden.  Texas is going to CC as of 1 Sep, and if we can have it here, no reason that LA can't too.

Link Posted: 6/3/2021 10:11:03 AM EDT
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Did it pass with a large enough percentage to override a veto?  

If so, holler at your reps and tell them you want this overridden.  Texas is going to CC as of 1 Sep, and if we can have it here, no reason that LA can't too.

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Being as I live in New Orleans, my rep and Sen voted against it, so I doubt I will have much luck.  Our pretend Republican majority legislature likely engineered this so they could pretend they support it, but sent it to the governor with such a short time on the clock he can wait 10 days and veto once the session ends.  So they can't override the veto without calling a special veto session....which hasn't been done in 39 years.

No, we'll hear "oh no, we just couldn't get enough support for a veto override session to have one, oh, woe is us, but look, we totally tried to do some of the stuff we promised, but we just couldn't quite manage it."
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Being as I live in New Orleans, my rep and Sen voted against it, so I doubt I will have much luck.  Our pretend Republican majority legislature likely engineered this so they could pretend they support it, but sent it to the governor with such a short time on the clock he can wait 10 days and veto once the session ends.  So they can't override the veto without calling a special veto session....which hasn't been done in 39 years.

No, we'll hear "oh no, we just couldn't get enough support for a veto override session to have one, oh, woe is us, but look, we totally tried to do some of the stuff we promised, but we just couldn't quite manage it."
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Did it pass with a large enough percentage to override a veto?  

If so, holler at your reps and tell them you want this overridden.  Texas is going to CC as of 1 Sep, and if we can have it here, no reason that LA can't too.



Being as I live in New Orleans, my rep and Sen voted against it, so I doubt I will have much luck.  Our pretend Republican majority legislature likely engineered this so they could pretend they support it, but sent it to the governor with such a short time on the clock he can wait 10 days and veto once the session ends.  So they can't override the veto without calling a special veto session....which hasn't been done in 39 years.

No, we'll hear "oh no, we just couldn't get enough support for a veto override session to have one, oh, woe is us, but look, we totally tried to do some of the stuff we promised, but we just couldn't quite manage it."
Sadly, this. Schexnayder and Cortez are way too friendly with Edwards to actually do anything about a veto.
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