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Posted: 3/5/2022 2:12:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Ryo]
Well, this is a BAD year for law-abiding firearm advocates..
We will now have a magazine ban (SB 5078) and can't build untraceable firearms (HB 1705). Not to mention HB 1630 which limits our right to carry.

Every year I have to look up who is anti 2nd Amendment.. which is annoying.. so this time I took the time to make a list of who voted for and against these ludicrous bills. Please use this list to help make some decisions when voting time comes.

In the NEXT ELECTION we need to voice our opinions by voting these anti 2nd Amendment politicians OUT OF OFFICE..

DO NOT VOTE FOR in SENATE:
   VOTE AGAINST Senator Billig
   VOTE AGAINST Senator Carlyle (Bill Sponser 2020)
   VOTE AGAINST Senator Cleveland
   VOTE AGAINST Senator Conway
   VOTE AGAINST Senator Darneille (Bill Sponsor)
   VOTE AGAINST Senator Das
   VOTE AGAINST Senator Dhingra (Bill Sponsor 2020)
   VOTE AGAINST Senator Frockt (Sponsored magazine ban 2019)
   VOTE AGAINST Senator Hasegawa
   VOTE AGAINST Senator Hunt (Bill Sponsor)
   VOTE AGAINST Senator Keiser
   VOTE AGAINST Senator Kuderer (Bill Sponsor)
   VOTE AGAINST Senator Liias (Bill Sponsor)
   VOTE AGAINST Senator Lovelett (Bill Sponsor)
   VOTE AGAINST Senator Lovick
   VOTE AGAINST Senator Mullet
   VOTE AGAINST Senator Nguyen (Bill Sponsor)
   VOTE AGAINST Senator Nobles
   VOTE AGAINST Senator Pedersen (Bill Sponsor)
   VOTE AGAINST Senator Randall
   VOTE AGAINST Senator Robinson
   VOTE AGAINST Senator Rolfes
   VOTE AGAINST Senator Saldaña (Bill Sonsor 2020)
   VOTE AGAINST Senator Salomon (Sponsored magazine ban 2019)
   VOTE AGAINST Senator Stanford (Sponsored magazine ban 2019)
   VOTE AGAINST Senator Trudeau
   VOTE AGAINST Senator Van De Wege
   VOTE AGAINST Senator Wellman (Sponsored magazine ban 2019)
   VOTE AGAINST Senator Wilson, Claire (Bill Sponsor) (Do not confuse with Wilson, Lynda or Wilson, Jeff. Lynda and Wilson were against these bills)


DO NOT VOTE FOR in HOUSE:
   VOTE AGAINST Representative Bateman (Sponsored Companion Bill 1164)
   VOTE AGAINST Representative Berg
   VOTE AGAINST Representative Bergquist (Sponsored AW & magazine ban 2019)
   VOTE AGAINST Representative Berry
   VOTE AGAINST Representative Bronoske
   VOTE AGAINST Representative Callan
   VOTE AGAINST Representative Chapman (Sponsored AW & magazine ban 2019)
   VOTE AGAINST Representative Chopp
   VOTE AGAINST Representative Cody (Sponsored AW & magazine ban 2019)
   VOTE AGAINST Representative Davis (Sponsored Companion Bill 1164)
   VOTE AGAINST Representative Dolan
   VOTE AGAINST Representative Donaghy
   VOTE AGAINST Representative Duerr
   VOTE AGAINST Representative Entenman
   VOTE AGAINST Representative Fey
   VOTE AGAINST Representative Fitzgibbon (Sponsored Companion Bill 1164)
   VOTE AGAINST Representative Frame (Sponsored magazine ban 2019)
   VOTE AGAINST Representative Goodman
   VOTE AGAINST Representative Gregerson (Sponsored Companion Bill 1164)
   VOTE AGAINST Representative Hackney (Sponsored Companion Bill 1164)
   VOTE AGAINST Representative Hansen
   VOTE AGAINST Representative Harris-Talley  (Sponsored Companion Bill 1164) (Voted against magazine ban 5078, but sponsor the house companion bill. Voted for untraceable firearms 1705)
   VOTE AGAINST Representative Johnson, Jesse
   VOTE AGAINST Representative Kilduff  (Sponsored AW & magazine ban 2019)
   VOTE AGAINST Representative Kloba (Sponsored magazine ban 2019)
   VOTE AGAINST Representative Leavitt
   VOTE AGAINST Representative Lekanoff
   VOTE AGAINST Representative Macri (Sponsored Companion Bill 1164)
   VOTE AGAINST Representative Morgan
   VOTE AGAINST Representative Ormsby (Sponsored Companion Bill 1164)
   VOTE AGAINST Representative Ortiz-Self (Sponsored AW & magazine ban 2019)
   VOTE AGAINST Representative Orwall (Sponsored AW & magazine ban 2019)
   VOTE AGAINST Representative Paul
   VOTE AGAINST Representative Peterson (Sponsored Companion Bill 1164)
   VOTE AGAINST Representative Pollet (Sponsored Companion Bill 1164)
   VOTE AGAINST Representative Ramel (Sponsored Companion Bill 1164)
   VOTE AGAINST Representative Ramos
   VOTE AGAINST Representative Riccelli
   VOTE AGAINST Representative Rule
   VOTE AGAINST Representative Ryu (Sponsored AW & magazine ban 2019)
   VOTE AGAINST Representative Santos
   VOTE AGAINST Representative Sells
   VOTE AGAINST Representative Senn (Sponsored magazine ban 2019)
   VOTE AGAINST Representative Shewmake
   VOTE AGAINST Representative Simmons (Sponsored Companion Bill 1164)
   VOTE AGAINST Representative Slatter (Sponsored AW & magazine ban 2019)
   VOTE AGAINST Representative Springer
   VOTE AGAINST Representative Stonier (Sponsored magazine ban 2019)
   VOTE AGAINST Representative Sullivan
   VOTE AGAINST Representative Taylor
   VOTE AGAINST Representative Thai (Sponsored magazine ban 2019)
   VOTE AGAINST Representative Tharinger (Sponsored AW & magazine ban 2019)
   VOTE AGAINST Representative Valdez (Sponsored Companion Bill 1164)
   VOTE AGAINST Representative Walen (Sponsored AW & magazine ban 2019)
   VOTE AGAINST Representative Wicks
   VOTE AGAINST Representative Wylie (Sponsored AW & magazine ban 2019)
   VOTE AGAINST Representative Jinkins

Maybe VOTE AGAINST Representative Robinson voted against 5078, but the previous year sponsored assault weapons and large-capacity magazines HB2241 in 2019

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Summary:

SB 5078 (Large Capacity Magazine Ban)

Senators Voting Yea: *Anti Gun*
  Billig, Carlyle, Cleveland, Conway, Das, Dhingra, Frockt, Hasegawa, Hunt, Keiser, Kuderer, Liias, Lovelett, Lovick, Mullet, Nguyen, Nobles, Pedersen, Randall, Robinson, Rolfes, Saldaña, Salomon, Stanford, Trudeau, Van De Wege, Wellman, Wilson, C.

Senators Voting Nay (Good Votes)
 Braun, Brown, Dozier, Fortunato, Gildon, Hawkins, Holy, Honeyford, King, McCune, Muzzall, Padden, Schoesler, Sefzik, Sheldon, Short, Wagoner, Warnick, Wilson J., Wilson L.

House Representatives Voting Yea: *Anti Gun*
  Bateman, Berg, Bergquist, Berry, Bronoske, Callan, Chapman, Chopp, Cody, Davis, Dolan, Donaghy, Duerr, Entenman, Fey, Fitzgibbon, Frame, Goodman, Gregerson, Hackney, Hansen, Johnson, J., Kloba, Leavitt, Lekanoff, Macri, Morgan, Ormsby, Ortiz-Self, Orwall, Paul, Peterson, Pollet, Ramel, Ramos, Riccelli, Rule, Ryu, Santos, Sells, Senn, Shewmake, Simmons, Slatter, Springer, Stonier, Sullivan, Taylor, Thai, Tharinger, Valdez, Walen, Wicks, Wylie, Jinkins

House Representatives Voting Nay (Good Votes)
  Abbarno, Barkis, Boehnke, Caldier, Chambers, Chase, Corry, Dent, Dufault, Dye, Eslick, Gilday, Goehner, Graham, Griffey, Harris, Harris-Talley, Hoff, Jacobsen, Kirby, Klicker, Klippert, Kraft, Kretz, MacEwen, Maycumber, McCaslin, McEntire, Mosbrucker, Orcutt, Robertson, Rude, Schmick, Steele, Stokesbary, Sutherland, Vick, Volz, Walsh, Wilcox, Ybarra, Young


HB 1705 (Untraceable Firearms)

House Representatives Voting Yea: *Anti Gun*
  Bateman, Berg, Bergquist, Berry, Bronoske, Callan, Chapman, Chopp, Cody, Davis, Dolan, Donaghy, Duerr, Entenman, Fey, Fitzgibbon, Frame, Goodman, Gregerson, Hackney, Hansen, Harris-Talley, Johnson, J., Kirby, Kloba, Leavitt, Lekanoff, Macri, Morgan, Ormsby, Ortiz-Self, Orwall, Paul, Peterson, Pollet, Ramel, Ramos, Riccelli, Rule, Ryu, Santos, Sells, Senn, Shewmake, Simmons, Slatter, Springer, Stonier, Sullivan, Taylor, Thai, Tharinger, Valdez, Walen, Wicks, Wylie, Jinkins
 
House Representatives Voting Nay (Good Votes)
  Abbarno, Barkis, Boehnke, Caldier, Chambers, Chandler, Chase, Corry, Dent, Dufault, Dye, Eslick, Gilday, Goehner, Graham, Griffey, Harris, Hoff, Jacobsen, Klicker, Klippert, Kraft, MacEwen, Maycumber, McEntire, Mosbrucker, Orcutt, Robertson, Rude, Schmick, Steele, Stokesbary, Sutherland, Vick, Volz, Walsh, Wilcox, Ybarra, Young
Link Posted: 3/5/2022 2:12:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Ryo] [#1]
Here is the list of 2A politicians that voted against the antigun bills SB 5078, HB 1705:

VOTE FOR IN TO SENATE: (GOOD)
   Senator Braun
   Senator Brown
   Senator Dozier
   Senator Fortunato
   Senator Gildon
   Senator Hawkins
   Senator Holy
   Senator Honeyford
   Senator King
   Senator McCune
   Senator Muzzall
   Senator Padden
   Senator Schoesler
   Senator Sefzik
   Senator Sheldon
   Senator Short
   Senator Wagoner
   Senator Warnick
   Senator Wilson Jeff
   Senator Wilson Lynda

   UNKNOWN: Senator Rivers (Voted against Untracable Firearms but Excused for magazine ban)
 

VOTE FOR IN TO HOUSE:  (GOOD)
   VOTE FOR Representative Abbarno
   VOTE FOR Representative Barkis
   VOTE FOR Representative Boehnke
   VOTE FOR Representative Caldier
   VOTE FOR Representative Chambers
   VOTE FOR Representative Chase
   VOTE FOR Representative Corry
   VOTE FOR Representative Dent
   VOTE FOR Representative Dufault
   VOTE FOR Representative Dye
   VOTE FOR Representative Eslick
   VOTE FOR Representative Gilday
   VOTE FOR Representative Goehner
   VOTE FOR Representative Graham
   VOTE FOR Representative Griffey
   VOTE FOR Representative Harris
   VOTE FOR Representative Hoff
   VOTE FOR Representative Jacobsen
   VOTE FOR Representative Klicker
   VOTE FOR Representative Klippert
   VOTE FOR Representative Kraft
   VOTE FOR Representative Kretz
   VOTE FOR Representative MacEwen
   VOTE FOR Representative Maycumber
   VOTE FOR Representative McCaslin
   VOTE FOR Representative McEntire
   VOTE FOR Representative Mosbrucker
   VOTE FOR Representative Orcutt
   VOTE FOR Representative Rude
   VOTE FOR Representative Schmick
   VOTE FOR Representative Steele
   VOTE FOR Representative Stokesbary
   VOTE FOR Representative Sutherland
   VOTE FOR Representative Vick
   VOTE FOR Representative Volz
   VOTE FOR Representative Walsh
   VOTE FOR Representative Wilcox
   VOTE FOR Representative Ybarra
   VOTE FOR Representative Young

   UNKNOWN: Representative Chandler (Voted against Untraceable Firearms but Excused for magazine ban)
   (MAYBE?) VOTE FOR Representative Kirby (Voted against magazine ban 5078, but voted for untraceable firearms 1705) It was pointed out he probably flip sides knowingly that it was going to pass. Unsure if this is true.
   UNKNOWN (Leaning NO): Representative Robertson (They sponsored HB 2241 (large-capacity magazine) back in 2019 but voted against HB 5078)
 
     
Link Posted: 3/5/2022 2:25:23 PM EDT
[#2]
All of my representatives and senators voted against both bills. Not much consolation.
Link Posted: 3/5/2022 2:36:58 PM EDT
[#3]
My elected folks did the right thing, sadly they are out numbered.
Link Posted: 3/5/2022 3:56:41 PM EDT
[#4]
This list is for people who are in the district that can make a change and get the anti's 2A out.

This list is also for people who do have good representation.. and know to vote for them to stay in office.

If there's anyone on the list I provided you feel should got pro or con, let me know. I'm just basing this off of the major votes that stole our 2nd Amendment rights.
Link Posted: 3/5/2022 4:53:15 PM EDT
[#5]
You vote against everyone of them on both sides...


You never see the other side take over, and undo what was done.

Screw them all.
Link Posted: 3/5/2022 8:27:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: scottr] [#6]
A couple guys on WA guns pointed out:

Kirby voted nay on the final vote, but earlier he passed it out of committee. He could have killed it there if he wanted to

Harris-Talley sponsored the house companion bill then voted nay on the final vote

Both did so because they knew it would pass without their vote and were worried about losing the next election if they voted yea

Originally Posted By Alpine:

Before you praise Kirby for voting against the final bill, he voted for it to pass committee when he could have stopped it there. He knew it was going to pass on the floor and so as long as he helped get it to the floor he was given permission by Speaker Jenkins to vote against the final bill because he lives in a semi rural district (Spanaway)

This kind of thing happens all the time in politics.
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Link Posted: 3/5/2022 10:59:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By scottr:
A couple guys on WA guns pointed out:

Kirby voted nay on the final vote, but earlier he passed it out of committee. He could have killed it there if he wanted to

Harris-Talley sponsored the house companion bill then voted nay on the final vote

Both did so because they knew it would pass without their vote and were worried about losing the next election if they voted yea


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Interesting.  Good intel.  Thank you for posting it.
Link Posted: 3/6/2022 3:25:08 AM EDT
[#8]
Thanks for posting.
Link Posted: 3/7/2022 4:36:49 PM EDT
[#9]
Updated list and added who sponsored the companion bill.
Link Posted: 3/7/2022 4:43:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Ryo:
Updated list and added who sponsored the companion bill.
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Thanks Ryo!!
Link Posted: 4/21/2022 2:44:41 AM EDT
[#11]
I'm now going over old bills to see where these people stand.. As I look at who sponsored pass bills you really start seeing who is really anti 2A.

So far everyone who voted 2A, some had sponsored a similar bill in the previous year.. hence not a surprise they voted for the bans.

I do have a question about one House Representative.. Representative Robinson voted against 5078, but the previous year sponsored assault weapons and large-capacity magazines HB2241, HB2519
Where does Robinson fall under?
Link Posted: 4/21/2022 8:15:35 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Ryo:
I'm now going over old bills to see where these people stand.. As I look at who sponsored pass bills you really start seeing who is really anti 2A.

So far everyone who voted 2A, some had sponsored a similar bill in the previous year.. hence not a surprise they voted for the bans.

I do have a question about one House Representative.. Representative Robinson voted against 5078, but the previous year sponsored assault weapons and large-capacity magazines HB2241, HB2519
Where does Robinson fall under?
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Hi Ryo,

THANK YOU for staying active and engaged after session!

I'm knocking this out in a hurry and I hope to have some time this evening to formulate a better response.

First, I am assuming you are asking about current 38th District Senator June Robinson.  She was formally a member of the House of Representatives (position 1) prior to her winning a special election in 2020 to fill the vacant Senate seat in the 38th.

June Robinson Ballotpedia Biography  Ballotpedia has lots of information but it is a bit difficult to navigate.

My guess is that she may have been offered up as a sacrificial lamb thus she was told to vote against 5078.  This is based on rumor and my back channels are not as strong as they were pre-coof. Or, she may have felt that 5078 didn't go far enough?  

I wouldn't trust her.  Voting record is probably the most reliable way to gauge a politician's stance on firearms freedom.  If she sponsored bills in the past that are anti-2A, that tells me everything I need to know.  I doubt she had a sudden epiphany all on her own.

Looking at the 38th District's historical voting pattern, it seems to lean Dem.  

Gotta go - but thanks again for your involvement!
Link Posted: 4/21/2022 4:51:31 PM EDT
[#13]
I'm in the Mullet/Ramos/Callan shit-district.  I used to have solid (R) guys at least in the House.

I had to vote for Mullet in the last election because the opposition candidate was WORSE.  I had a choice of a shitty slightly left of center d-bag (Mullet) or a full on leftist commie (Ingrid Anderson).  He pulled it off by 58 votes.  So yes, he's a piece of shit, but he was almost replaced by a worse piece of shit...

Not sure that is much consolation though.  Both would have voted the same way on the gun bills, I'd have to look at the rest of his record to see if there were any saving graces....
Link Posted: 4/21/2022 5:38:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By twodeucetrey:
THANK YOU for staying active and engaged after session!

My guess is that she may have been offered up as a sacrificial lamb thus she was told to vote against 5078.  This is based on rumor and my back channels are not as strong as they were pre-coof. Or, she may have felt that 5078 didn't go far enough?  

I wouldn't trust her.  Voting record is probably the most reliable way to gauge a politician's stance on firearms freedom.  If she sponsored bills in the past that are anti-2A, that tells me everything I need to know.  I doubt she had a sudden epiphany all on her own.

Looking at the 38th District's historical voting pattern, it seems to lean Dem.  
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Originally Posted By twodeucetrey:
THANK YOU for staying active and engaged after session!

My guess is that she may have been offered up as a sacrificial lamb thus she was told to vote against 5078.  This is based on rumor and my back channels are not as strong as they were pre-coof. Or, she may have felt that 5078 didn't go far enough?  

I wouldn't trust her.  Voting record is probably the most reliable way to gauge a politician's stance on firearms freedom.  If she sponsored bills in the past that are anti-2A, that tells me everything I need to know.  I doubt she had a sudden epiphany all on her own.

Looking at the 38th District's historical voting pattern, it seems to lean Dem.  


No problem.. I'm pretty upset by this so I'm going to take some time to make a more easier, visible list on who are against my 2A beliefs. I want WA to be what it was a decade ago at the minimum.
I will continue to update this list as I get more info. I'll put little comments to help support why I put them on the bad list.
Definitely I heard a couple of libs were given passes on voting against the bills to keep them looking like they support 2A. They probably the ones voted last just to make sure their vote doesn't help the pro-2As. Screw them.


Originally Posted By Scollins:
I'm in the Mullet/Ramos/Callan shit-district.  I used to have solid (R) guys at least in the House.

I had to vote for Mullet in the last election because the opposition candidate was WORSE.  I had a choice of a shitty slightly left of center d-bag (Mullet) or a full on leftist commie (Ingrid Anderson).  He pulled it off by 58 votes.  So yes, he's a piece of shit, but he was almost replaced by a worse piece of shit...

Not sure that is much consolation though.  Both would have voted the same way on the gun bills, I'd have to look at the rest of his record to see if there were any saving graces....


Extremely good point. I do plan to make a list for the candidate if they are known to be antigun. Previously I've looked at NRA or similar organization on their grading of the politicians.  Also with help from people like you posting in the thread as we get closer to elections would help too.  Thanks.
Link Posted: 4/21/2022 11:05:11 PM EDT
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We are losing Sheldon in 35th.
The only dem I voted for. I hear he has had enough of the WA state senate BS. He will be retiring. He will be missed as he always answered my e-mails and has always voted for all of our god given rights.
Link Posted: 4/22/2022 8:21:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By slughunter1:
We are losing Sheldon in 35th.
The only dem I voted for. I hear he has had enough of the WA state senate BS. He will be retiring. He will be missed as he always answered my e-mails and has always voted for all of our god given rights.
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Oh that's terrible news.
Link Posted: 4/24/2022 12:46:45 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By R-32:
You vote against everyone of them on both sides...


You never see the other side take over, and undo what was done.

Screw them all.
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Correct.
Link Posted: 6/15/2022 3:06:58 AM EDT
[#18]
Just popping this up to keep active.
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