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Posted: 4/12/2022 9:24:27 AM EDT
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Quoted: Do people really forget so quickly? I've lost all faith in Ohio voters if this guy ends up winning the primary Because most people vote with their wallets, he's done no anti 2a stuff of note and they really were scared of getting sick. He was not an outlier on this stuff. Ohio has been generally prosperous with him in there and none of the others are really pushing anything other than look at me, I'll be better. Arfreality and everyone else's reality are not particularly the same thing. Those hard core antivaxers are just as small a minority as the mandatory vaxxers. Most people want to live life and not worry about stuff that they can't control too much. |
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Posted: 4/12/2022 9:54:17 AM EDT
[#2]
name recognition and campaign money
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Posted: 4/12/2022 9:58:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: name recognition and campaign money That too. |
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Posted: 4/12/2022 11:26:16 AM EDT
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Quoted: Do people really forget so quickly? I've lost all faith in Ohio voters if this guy ends up winning the primary You're seeing why it's hard to unseat an incumbent. |
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Posted: 4/13/2022 8:04:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because most people vote with their wallets, he's done no anti 2a stuff of note and they really were scared of getting sick. He was not an outlier on this stuff. Ohio has been generally prosperous with him in there and none of the others are really pushing anything other than look at me, I'll be better. Arfreality and everyone else's reality are not particularly the same thing. Those hard core antivaxers are just as small a minority as the mandatory vaxxers. Most people want to live life and not worry about stuff that they can't control too much. I'd argue that he didn't get away with passing any anti 2a stuff of note, largely because the Legislature stood firm against them. He sure floated some. I don't think we should give him credit for backing off on stuff that he'd get past a weaker Legislature. https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/politics/state/2019/10/07/dewine-drops-red-flag-law/984547007/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/08/06/dayton-ohio-shooting-governor-mike-dewine-gun-changes/1930220001/ He might not be a rabid anti-gunner, but he's not opposed to "commonsense" gun control, when the heat gets turned up by the anti-gunners. I'll bet he's less inclined to sign pro-gun legislation once he's not worried about reelection, too. |
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Posted: 4/13/2022 8:12:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd argue that he didn't get away with passing any anti 2a stuff of note, largely because the Legislature stood firm against them. He sure floated some. I don't think we should give him credit for backing off on stuff that he'd get past a weaker Legislature. https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/politics/state/2019/10/07/dewine-drops-red-flag-law/984547007/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/08/06/dayton-ohio-shooting-governor-mike-dewine-gun-changes/1930220001/ He might not be a rabid anti-gunner, but he's not opposed to "commonsense" gun control, when the heat gets turned up by the anti-gunners. I'll bet he's less inclined to sign pro-gun legislation once he's not worried about reelection, too. No arguments there. The one thing I'm sure of is we can't afford a democrat in the Governor's mansion. I mean that literally. We need to look at who is most electable against the Democrat. That means someone who can carry the blue county suburbs. The last several elections were razor thin margins and those suburbs made the difference. |
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Posted: 4/13/2022 8:20:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:. . The last several elections were razor thin margins and those suburbs made the difference. |
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Posted: 4/13/2022 8:27:38 AM EDT
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I don't quite understand how we have a solidly Republican legislature but can come close to putting a Democrat in the Governor's mansion.
If Dewine is replaced by a Dem., hopefully we keep a veto-proof majority at the state house. Then again, if he retains his seat, hopefully we keep a veto-proof majority also. |
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Posted: 4/13/2022 12:06:49 PM EDT
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Why do we have so many RINOs but when a Democrat is elected we never get a DINO?
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Posted: 4/13/2022 12:14:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why do we have so many RINOs but when a Democrat is elected we never get a DINO? Because there is no such thing anymore. There are just varying degrees of socialists in the D column. |
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Posted: 4/13/2022 12:15:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't quite understand how we have a solidly Republican legislature but can come close to putting a Democrat in the Governor's mansion. If Dewine is replaced by a Dem., hopefully we keep a veto-proof majority at the state house. Then again, if he retains his seat, hopefully we keep a veto-proof majority also. Because the legislature is elected by district. The governor and other executive branch offices are elected statewide. |
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Posted: 4/14/2022 1:40:54 AM EDT
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I'm not voting for him. Done with that lesser of 2 evils crap.
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Posted: 4/14/2022 8:42:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm not voting for him. Done with that lesser of 2 evils crap. This is what the primaries are for. Support/work/fund/vote for the one who aligns closest to you. Even if the incumbent/other still wins it close races or strong underdogs can help send a message and impact the agenda going forward. Unfortunately when the general election comes, we are back to lesser of evils. JLE |
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Posted: 4/14/2022 7:40:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because the legislature is elected by district. The governor and other executive branch offices are elected statewide. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I don't quite understand how we have a solidly Republican legislature but can come close to putting a Democrat in the Governor's mansion. If Dewine is replaced by a Dem., hopefully we keep a veto-proof majority at the state house. Then again, if he retains his seat, hopefully we keep a veto-proof majority also. |
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Posted: 4/14/2022 9:22:15 PM EDT
[#15]
I will vote against him in the primary but will stay out of it if he goes to the general election.
No way I am giving him my vote for any reason. Voting for crap Republicans is what keeps giving us crap Republicans. You do you, but I am no longer going to perpetuate the cycle any longer. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 7:36:58 PM EDT
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I am 63 years of age and have never voted for anyone.
You can call it bad or negative attitude if you like, but I look for the worst candidate and have always voted AGAINST the greater of 2 evils. |
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Posted: 4/16/2022 3:47:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I will vote against him in the primary but will stay out of it if he goes to the general election. No way I am giving him my vote for any reason. Voting for crap Republicans is what keeps giving us crap Republicans. You do you, but I am no longer going to perpetuate the cycle any longer. All that covid BS was about as bad as the liberal states. The mask mandate only repealed because finally the legislature took his power away. So fuck Dewine. Not mention all the businesses he shut down. |
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Posted: 4/16/2022 6:31:02 PM EDT
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Being a Boomer and retired I don't really have much contact with liberals, but I do have a couple that I communicate with and they think that DeWine isn't so bad. I'm saying that some liberals think he's an OK Governor.
 What does that tell you? |
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Posted: 4/17/2022 7:55:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Being a Boomer and retired I don't really have much contact with liberals, but I do have a couple that I communicate with and they think that DeWine isn't so bad. I'm saying that some liberals think he's an OK Governor. What does that tell you?That's why we need to get him out at the primary. |
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Posted: 4/17/2022 11:00:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because there is no such thing anymore. There are just varying degrees of socialists in the D column. And they never break ranks, no matter how heinous the offence commited by the democrat. |
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Posted: 4/17/2022 12:23:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And they never break ranks, no matter how heinous the offence commited by the democrat. I do not think Bill Clinton could be elected as a Democrat now, based purely on the policies he had while in office. In the modern era, he would be a moderate Republican. |
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Posted: 4/17/2022 7:35:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why do we have so many RINOs but when a Democrat is elected we never get a DINO? Strickland signed Senate Bill 184, and I don’t remember anything else he did. 
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Posted: 4/17/2022 8:44:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Strickland signed Senate Bill 184, and I don’t remember anything else he did. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Why do we have so many RINOs but when a Democrat is elected we never get a DINO? Strickland signed Senate Bill 184, and I don’t remember anything else he did. Strickland was as close to a blue dog as I e seen in a while. Then Obama reeled him in and it was over. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 7:41:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Being a Boomer and retired I don't really have much contact with liberals, but I do have a couple that I communicate with and they think that DeWine isn't so bad. I'm saying that some liberals think he's an OK Governor. What does that tell you?Same experience that I’ve had. I know liberals that downright looked forward to sitting in front of their TV or computer when he did his “COVID updates.” |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 11:47:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I do not think Bill Clinton could be elected as a Democrat now, based purely on the policies he had while in office. In the modern era, he would be a moderate Republican. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: And they never break ranks, no matter how heinous the offence commited by the democrat. I do not think Bill Clinton could be elected as a Democrat now, based purely on the policies he had while in office. In the modern era, he would be a moderate Republican. Weren't his policies driven in part by the GOP controlling the purse strings? I was not living in the US at that time, but know he was ever so cool, playing the Sexophone on MTV, and any whispers of him being a sex case were eradicated. I know he wasn't at Oxofrd University long. I think in part to his pastime of assaulting women, but it was yet another case that was not front page news. And, once Bill met his handler, Hillary, she made sure it was easier for him to get away with his crimes. To be honest , I think the "Me Too" movement was nothing more than a distraction, and Weinstein was an easy mark to throw under the bus... There are too many dems that still live Bill and would vote for him in a heartbeat, we would just need to make sure it's a straight up vote between the two parties and not have a Ross Perot split the vote.. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 12:49:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Weren't his policies driven in part by the GOP controlling the purse strings? I was not living in the US at that time, but know he was ever so cool, playing the Sexophone on MTV, and any whispers of him being a sex case were eradicated. I know he wasn't at Oxofrd University long. I think in part to his pastime of assaulting women, but it was yet another case that was not front page news. And, once Bill met his handler, Hillary, she made sure it was easier for him to get away with his crimes. To be honest , I think the "Me Too" movement was nothing more than a distraction, and Weinstein was an easy mark to throw under the bus... There are too many dems that still live Bill and would vote for him in a heartbeat, we would just need to make sure it's a straight up vote between the two parties and not have a Ross Perot split the vote.. Whatever drove his policies, he would not fit at the right end of the left today. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 1:19:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Whatever drove his policies, he would not fit at the right end of the left today. I believe the reason he lost Congress was due in part to the AWB, which he was happy to sign, and the Big Guy along with the likes of Frankenfeinstein put together. As far not fitting into the right side of the Left today, they probably said the same about the Skin Suit in the WH, but look at him now... |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 1:29:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I believe the reason he lost Congress was due in part to the AWB, which he was happy to sign, and the Big Guy along with the likes of Frankenfeinstein put together. As far not fitting into the right side of the Left today, they probably said the same about the Skin Suit in the WH, but look at him now... Much as we don't like to believe it, guns and AWBs and stuff like that, are not the sole determining issues of left or right. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 2:09:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Same experience that I’ve had. I know liberals that downright looked forward to sitting in front of their TV or computer when he did his “COVID updates.” 
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Posted: 4/18/2022 2:17:17 PM EDT
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...is dewine still running the get-a-jab win a prize lotteries?....
"double vaxxed, boostered, flu shot", ... THUMP! Video: Comedian Jokes About Vaccine Then Collapses On Stage  Video: Comedian Jokes About Vaccine Then Collapses On Stage klaus schwab, fauci, bill gates, the WEF, the WHO, the FDA/CDC, and big pharma approve this message...  |
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Posted: 4/24/2022 11:40:48 PM EDT
[#31]
I have never voted for Dewine and never will. I didn't care for him to begin with and at a former job I had to do some work for him and he was extremely rude to me, especially for someone who came up to my knee.
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Posted: 4/25/2022 8:49:50 PM EDT
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Found out a couple days ago a friend that works at Wright Pat got the shots as required and now needs surgery for A fib.
He is late 30s, great health, races dirt bikes. |
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Posted: 4/26/2022 1:54:20 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Found out a couple days ago a friend that works at Wright Pat got the shots as required and now needs surgery for A fib. He is late 30s, great health, races dirt bikes. wow, ...and probably because of the severe coercion that was going on there to get the jab, ...hospitalization rate for CV19 was less than 1% (most sheep have no idea it was this miniscule), ...and the vast majority of those were elderly, obese, and/or with other "co-morbidities". there was no need to take the risk on the deep state's elixir that was "so great", they all had to censure, bully, and force people to take it... especially if otherwise healthy and young... ...and dewine (who just got CV19.?.?) was out there non-stop promoting it... ...that, along with his tyrannical lockdown (that also did more harm than good), is why i'm enthusiastically voting for one of the anti-dewine candidates... |
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Posted: 4/26/2022 7:17:51 AM EDT
[#34]
The more I think about it, the less likely I will vote in the governor race in the general if Dewine makes it out of the primary.
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Posted: 4/26/2022 9:19:36 PM EDT
[#35]
I have no intention of voting for DeWine under any circumstances. Never have and never will.
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Posted: 4/27/2022 12:00:34 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's scary. A few stuffed valid here, a few stuffed valid there, and we have a Democrat. I won't vote for DeWine. Just can't. If that means we wind up with a Democrat, then so be it. Maybe then the Ohio Republican Party will start providing us with better quality candidates. There should be a vetting process imposed to make sure that those who propose to run on a Republican ticket are actually conservative. Otherwise we wind up with people like DeWine again and again. |
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Posted: 4/27/2022 12:08:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have no intention of voting for DeWine under any circumstances. Never have and never will. |
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Posted: 4/27/2022 2:06:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How is that different from LaRose / DeWine? LaRose plays games with elections, and DeWine is certainly no Republican. I won't vote for DeWine. Just can't. If that means we wind up with a Democrat, then so be it. Maybe then the Ohio Republican Party will start providing us with better quality candidates. There should be a vetting process imposed to make sure that those who propose to run on a Republican ticket are actually conservative. Otherwise we wind up with people like DeWine again and again. ...when it comes down to it, it's us... remember the candidate is determined by the primary election. ...this year, we have competitive alternatives to the incumbent... so, this year especially, it's on republican primary voters to show up and ditch the kool aid... we can, at the least, send a shot across the bow to dewine, ...and who knows, if we do our job, well, we would foment a major upset! |
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