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Posted: 10/25/2021 8:47:41 PM EDT
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Cool...
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Posted: 10/26/2021 6:58:38 AM EDT
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I fear it's too little too late
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Posted: 10/26/2021 9:55:12 AM EDT
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She needs to call a special session to address this issue.
Can't wait till January. 'Here we go again," 
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Posted: 10/26/2021 11:32:02 AM EDT
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There's a whole lot of stupid in the private/corporate mandates that this order does not address.
Case in point: Patient called yesterday saying that vaccine was mandated by ULA by a certain date. He would be terminated for noncompliance. The kicker is that he had COVID less than 90 days ago. The HR dept at ULA knows about his illness due to quarantine records, and they know that CDC recommends waiting 90 days after infection to get the vaccine, but still told him he would be terminated if not in compliance by a specified cutoff date despite a clear contraindication to getting a vaccine within that timeframe. I had a similar incident in August with an ATT employee. |
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Posted: 10/26/2021 11:34:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There's a whole lot of stupid in the private/corporate mandates that this order does not address. Case in point: Patient called yesterday saying that vaccine was mandated by ULA by a certain date. He would be terminated for noncompliance. The kicker is that he had COVID less than 90 days ago. The HR dept at ULA knows this, and they no that CDC recommends waiting 90 days after infection to get the vaccine, but told him he would be terminated despite a clear contraindication to getting a vaccine within that timeframe. I had a similar incident in August with an ATT employee. |
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Posted: 10/27/2021 8:52:01 AM EDT
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Alabama Gov. Kay Ivey said the “way to resolve” opposition to federal mandates for taking the COVID-19 vaccine is “through the courts” and not through proposed legislation that has recently surfaced in Montgomery.
Ivey, following a speech in Mobile Tuesday, said that it “makes no sense to have a federal law and state law at odds” that places employers in an uncomfortable middle-man position to make decisions that could place them in a “bad position.” https://www.al.com/news/2021/10/alabama-gov-kay-ivey-oppose-biden-vaccine-mandate-through-courts-not-legislation.html LOL. She is playing media games. The courts have already ruled they are not knocking down various mandates. Passing a law is more than just lip service. |
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Posted: 10/27/2021 8:56:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Alabama Gov. Kay Ivey said the "way to resolve" opposition to federal mandates for taking the COVID-19 vaccine is "through the courts" and not through proposed legislation that has recently surfaced in Montgomery. Ivey, following a speech in Mobile Tuesday, said that it "makes no sense to have a federal law and state law at odds" that places employers in an uncomfortable middle-man position to make decisions that could place them in a "bad position." https://www.al.com/news/2021/10/alabama-gov-kay-ivey-oppose-biden-vaccine-mandate-through-courts-not-legislation.html LOL. She is playing media games. The courts have already ruled they are not knocking down various mandates. Passing a law is more than just lip service. |
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Posted: 10/27/2021 9:05:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sounds like what she is saying is she does not want to be held responsible when business says Ivy and the state overruled Biden and the feds. She probably remembers the Wallace debacle and is fearful. My wife says who works for Ivy's friend thinks she is old and solid and not swayable but I see her bending all the time and she seems more of an undercover democrat to me most of the times....but I am hopeful. She's an old school Dixiecrat. |
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Posted: 10/28/2021 9:07:34 AM EDT
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‘This order did nothing’: Conservatives blast Gov. Kay Ivey over her vaccine mandate stance
Health Freedom Alabama was officially organized in late August, but already it’s accepting nominations for the dubious “Tar and Feather Award” it plans to give out to lawmakers who “seek to destroy liberty and freedom.” Alabama Gov. Kay Ivey is a leading candidate. .. called the order “horribly insufficient” because “it protects only the state workers of the executive branch” and not the private sector. .. That is a point of contention among conservatives who believe the governor should follow similar strategies taken by Republican Texas Gov. Greg Abbott who, earlier this month, issued an executive order barring private companies or any other entity from requiring vaccines. Abbot’s order was dismissed by White House officials who said the question of whether state law could supersede federal action was settled during the Civil War. https://www.al.com/news/2021/10/this-order-did-nothing-conservatives-blast-gov-kay-ivey-over-her-vaccine-mandate-stance.html |
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Posted: 10/28/2021 9:11:36 AM EDT
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Ivey keyboards:
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Posted: 10/29/2021 10:31:59 PM EDT
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The University I work for waited until the last minute to inform us of our vaccine requirement. Basically a left week to begin the vax process for the 2 dose brands. Several of us in my department have submitted religious exemption requests. Word is that they waited so that the unvaxxed would just cave and get it, but supposedly they are going to be pretty liberal in handing out the exemptions. Fingers crossed.
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Posted: 10/29/2021 11:22:17 PM EDT
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I sis in law just got approved for religious exemption so hopefully yours will go through.
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Posted: 10/29/2021 11:52:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The University I work for waited until the last minute to inform us of our vaccine requirement. Basically a left week to begin the vax process for the 2 dose brands. Several of us in my department have submitted religious exemption requests. Word is that they waited so that the unvaxxed would just cave and get it, but supposedly they are going to be pretty liberal in handing out the exemptions. Fingers crossed. The AG sent them a letter saying they could not question a religious request. |
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Posted: 10/30/2021 1:59:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The AG sent them a letter saying they could not question a religious request. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The University I work for waited until the last minute to inform us of our vaccine requirement. Basically a left week to begin the vax process for the 2 dose brands. Several of us in my department have submitted religious exemption requests. Word is that they waited so that the unvaxxed would just cave and get it, but supposedly they are going to be pretty liberal in handing out the exemptions. Fingers crossed. The AG sent them a letter saying they could not question a religious request. Nice, I'm not holding my breath but that does give hope that an exemption will be approved. Hell, I work outside and alone. I'm zero threat to anyone. It's a university with over 10k students, but they aren't required. Forcing a couple hundred employees to get the jab isn't preventing anything. |
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Posted: 11/1/2021 8:49:49 AM EDT
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Twelve bills related to vaccinations were introduced in the ongoing special session on redistricting, but key lawmakers said they do not expect to debate the proposals before the winter regular session.
House Speaker Mac McCutcheon said Republicans want to fight the mandate but suggested it would be counterproductive to pass legislation that couldn’t impact federal law. The U.S. Constitution’s supremacy clause is clear that federal law overrides any conflicting state laws. “The last thing we want to do is have a knee jerk reaction on something that may sound good politically, but in substance what does it do. You haven’t done the people any justice by doing it that way,” McCutcheon said. https://www.al.com/news/anniston-gadsden/2021/10/alabama-vaccine-mandate-will-lead-state-employees-to-quit.html Weak. |
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Posted: 11/1/2021 9:07:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Twelve bills related to vaccinations were introduced in the ongoing special session on redistricting, but key lawmakers said they do not expect to debate the proposals before the winter regular session. House Speaker Mac McCutcheon said Republicans want to fight the mandate but suggested it would be counterproductive to pass legislation that couldn't impact federal law. The U.S. Constitution's supremacy clause is clear that federal law overrides any conflicting state laws. "The last thing we want to do is have a knee jerk reaction on something that may sound good politically, but in substance what does it do. You haven't done the people any justice by doing it that way," McCutcheon said. https://www.al.com/news/anniston-gadsden/2021/10/alabama-vaccine-mandate-will-lead-state-employees-to-quit.html Weak. |
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Posted: 11/1/2021 8:50:44 PM EDT
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That’s not how 10th amendment works…
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Posted: 11/2/2021 9:42:52 AM EDT
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Apparently two bills opposing the mandates came out of committee in the senate and going to a floor vote. No idea what they contain.
Since it is a Special Session, needs 2/3rds majority to pass. Apparently Speaker of the House is having a change of heart and might consider moving bills forward on the house side. The Chamber of Commerce in the Huntsville area are against the bills. |
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Posted: 11/2/2021 11:24:12 AM EDT
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The majority of the Alabama GOP needs to be replaced with people that actually have a spine.
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Posted: 11/2/2021 7:35:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The majority of the Alabama GOP needs to be replaced with people that actually have a spine. This! |
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Posted: 11/4/2021 9:12:09 AM EDT
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Senate passes bill allowing religious, medical exemptions to President Biden’s vaccine mandate
Alabama lawmakers are responding to opposition to President Biden’s vaccine mandate from those whose jobs could be affected or believe it is an infringement on freedom. The Senate today passed a bill to allow employees to claim medical and religious exemptions to the mandate under state law. Biden’s mandate allows exemptions, but the sponsor of the bill said many were being denied. The bill passed by a vote of 26-5. It moves to the House. https://www.al.com/news/2021/11/senator-says-alabama-bills-to-mitigate-vaccine-mandate-face-uphill-battle.html Long article at the link. I don't really care for this. It should be if a person doesn't want to get a shot, that should be good enough. |
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Posted: 11/4/2021 9:32:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Senate passes bill allowing religious, medical exemptions to President Biden's vaccine mandate Alabama lawmakers are responding to opposition to President Biden's vaccine mandate from those whose jobs could be affected or believe it is an infringement on freedom. The Senate today passed a bill to allow employees to claim medical and religious exemptions to the mandate under state law. Biden's mandate allows exemptions, but the sponsor of the bill said many were being denied. The bill passed by a vote of 26-5. It moves to the House. https://www.al.com/news/2021/11/senator-says-alabama-bills-to-mitigate-vaccine-mandate-face-uphill-battle.html Long article at the link. I don't really care for this. It should be if a person doesn't want to get a shot, that should be good enough. |
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Posted: 11/5/2021 8:44:54 AM EDT
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Alabama lawmakers pass bill requiring parental consent for minors to receive COVID-19 vaccines
The Alabama Legislature tonight gave final approval to a bill requiring parental consent for minors to receive a COVID-19 vaccination. The bill goes to Gov. Kay Ivey, who could sign it into law. The bill would create an exception to the state law that allows minors 14 and older to consent to medical treatment. The legislation would also prohibit schools and colleges from asking about a minor student’s COVID-19 vaccination status without parental consent. The bill says the attorney general could commence civil action in court to stop violations. https://www.al.com/news/2021/11/alabama-lawmakers-pass-bill-requiring-parental-consent-for-minors-to-receive-covid-19-vaccines.html |
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Posted: 11/5/2021 2:24:25 PM EDT
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Alabama Gov. Kay Ivey signs employee vaccine mandate exemption, parental consent bills
Gov. Kay Ivey today signed into law a bill prohibiting employers from firing employees who refuse a COVID-19 vaccination if those employees claim a medical or religious exemption. Ivey signed another bill requiring parental consent for minors, age 18 and under, to receive a COVID-19 vaccination, an exception to the state law that allows minors 14 and older to consent to medical treatments. The Legislature passed both bills last night, with the Republican majority passing them over opposition from Democrats. .. The law takes effect immediately. It directs the Alabama Department of Labor to adopt within 21 days an emergency rule allowing employees who are turned down in a request for an exemption to appeal. Employees would have seven days to appeal to an administrative law judge, who would make a decision within 30 days. The administrative law judge’s decision could then be appealed in circuit court. Employers could not fire an employee for refusing to take the vaccine while the appeal is pending. .. The law will expire in May 2023 unless the Legislature passes another bill to extend it. The law, SB 9 by Sen. Chris Elliott, R-Fairhope, would create a standard form allowing employees to choose one of these reasons for an exemption: Health care provider recommended refusal of the vaccine because of health conditions or medications. (A licensed health care provider’s signature is required for this reason only.) Previously suffered a severe allergic reaction, such as anaphylaxis, to a vaccination. Previously suffered a severe allergic reaction to receiving polyethylene glycol or products containing that. Previously suffered a severe allergic reaction to polysorbate or products containing polysorbate. Have received monoclonal antibodies or convalescent plasma to treat COVID-19 in the last 90 days. Have a bleeding disorder or am taking blood thinners. Severely immunocompromised such that the vaccine would cause a health risk. Diagnosed with COVID-19 in the past 12 months. Receiving the vaccine conflicts with sincerely held religious beliefs, practices, or observances. https://www.al.com/news/2021/11/alabama-gov-kay-ivey-signs-business-vaccine-mandate-exemption-parental-consent-bills.html |
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Posted: 11/5/2021 9:21:40 PM EDT
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Should be interesting.
We're under such a mandate by a given date to comply. |
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Posted: 11/6/2021 1:06:35 PM EDT
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It is a gross over reach
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Posted: 11/10/2021 10:41:20 PM EDT
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My religious exemption request was approved today.
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Posted: 11/11/2021 10:46:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My religious exemption request was approved today. Mine is in process. They can take their time for all I care. One of the questions was whether or not I had asked for a religious exemption in the past. And why or why not? I checked no, and took my opportunity to politely and respectfully vent. I told them that until this moment, I have never been forced or coerced with threat of disciplinary action to take any kind of vaccine. I said that until this point, taking a vaccine was a choice that I could make on my own. I didn't have to file an exemption request because I could make the choice on my own to not take a vaccine and no one said anything about it! It did make me feel better! 
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Posted: 11/14/2021 4:32:56 PM EDT
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I submitted an exemption..
It starts: I MAKE THIS DECLARATION UNDER DURESS AND AGAINST MY 1st AMENDMENT CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS AND PROTECTIONS UNDER HIPPA, ADA, and EEO. Approval of these exemptions is left up to whatever BIASED person who reviews it. Not my doctor, not a priest, but some government person who decides if the exemption is compelling and enforceable. Once you put it out there they have it forever. No matter how many times I start to fill out the religious exemption, I cannot bring myself to do it. I will not ask permission of the GOV to be allowed to practice my faith in a country that promises it SHALL NOT INFRINGE. I'm a stickler for policy. I was good enough to work in the office double masked BEFORE we had a vax with people on their second and third bout with this BIOLOGICAL WEAPON. My lively hood and job are being held hostage by the government. |
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Posted: 11/17/2021 10:03:16 AM EDT
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MONTGOMERY, Ala. (WAFF) - Alabama Attorney General Steve Marshall filed a lawsuit Monday to block a COVID vaccine mandate for healthcare workers.
The federal Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services require COVID-19 vaccinations for more than 17 million workers in about 76,000 health care facilities and home health care providers that get funding from the government health programs. “Federal contractor employees, followed by all businesses with 100 or more employees, were singled out by Biden’s heavy-handed vaccine edict. Not satisfied with stalling the national economy, on November 4, Biden doubled down and expanded his vaccine mandate to cover most Medicare- and Medicaid-certified providers, placing almost all of the nation’s healthcare workers in its crosshairs,” said Attorney General Steve Marshall. https://www.wbrc.com/2021/11/16/alabamas-ag-files-lawsuit-block-vaccine-mandate-healthcare-workers/ |
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