F.A.Q. CT "is this legal" thread and helpful links (Page 3 of 7)
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Originally Posted By ganoman21:
Thanks for the fast reply! So for the lower, I meant replacing it with a polymer lower receiver, but since that's the part of the rifle that's registered, I guess that would be a no-no since it would now have the manufacture date of the new lower receiver, and subject to new CT regs. Originally Posted By ganoman21:
Originally Posted By pedorrero79:
Originally Posted By ganoman21:
If I were to purchase a pre-ban AR from a local shop in CT, what changes/modifications can be made (if any) and still remain legal? -Replace stock with collapsible stock? No problem -Rechamber? You mean like a different caliber upper? If so, no problem. -SBR? May be a problem. I think the jury's still out on that at BATFarts. -Suppressor? No problem, this is treated differently than a rifle. -replacing/repairing action? You talking a new trigger group or lower parts kit? Shouldn't be a problem. -Updating lower? (pretty sure this is a no) Pretty sure I don't know what you mean by that. Totally new, so thanks for understanding. Thanks for the fast reply! So for the lower, I meant replacing it with a polymer lower receiver, but since that's the part of the rifle that's registered, I guess that would be a no-no since it would now have the manufacture date of the new lower receiver, and subject to new CT regs. No, you can't do that, and you're correct. |
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Originally Posted By Andrapos:
Gunbroker? JoJo's? NGX? Delta Arsenal? 22.LR with a fixed stock, non-threaded barrel, no bayonet lug, etc. ---Pistol grip and detachable magazine is fine Originally Posted By Andrapos:
Originally Posted By pi_the_mixer:
GSG-5, how can I get one? Or just simply no? Gunbroker? JoJo's? NGX? Delta Arsenal? 22.LR with a fixed stock, non-threaded barrel, no bayonet lug, etc. ---Pistol grip and detachable magazine is fine 1994 gun law for rimfire? That sucks... but something is still better nothing I guess. Thank you for your response Andrapos! |
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Originally Posted By pi_the_mixer:
1994 gun law for rimfire? That sucks... but something is still better nothing I guess. Thank you for your response Andrapos! Originally Posted By pi_the_mixer:
Originally Posted By Andrapos:
Originally Posted By pi_the_mixer:
GSG-5, how can I get one? Or just simply no? Gunbroker? JoJo's? NGX? Delta Arsenal? 22.LR with a fixed stock, non-threaded barrel, no bayonet lug, etc. ---Pistol grip and detachable magazine is fine 1994 gun law for rimfire? That sucks... but something is still better nothing I guess. Thank you for your response Andrapos! If you know where to look or IM me you can have a regular PreBan AR for around or just over 1k |
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Originally Posted By sardo_67:
If you know where to look or IM me you can have a regular PreBan AR for around or just over 1k Originally Posted By sardo_67:
Originally Posted By pi_the_mixer:
Originally Posted By Andrapos:
Originally Posted By pi_the_mixer:
GSG-5, how can I get one? Or just simply no? Gunbroker? JoJo's? NGX? Delta Arsenal? 22.LR with a fixed stock, non-threaded barrel, no bayonet lug, etc. ---Pistol grip and detachable magazine is fine 1994 gun law for rimfire? That sucks... but something is still better nothing I guess. Thank you for your response Andrapos! If you know where to look or IM me you can have a regular PreBan AR for around or just over 1k Thank you for the head up... I was able to snatch 2 nice billet lower receivers before that day. Just got the paper back for my very first SBR. 
I looked it up a little more and now I want the HK MP5 A5, but this thing has threaded barrel for the fake suppressor and collapsible stock. 
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SBR Ares SCR 10.5 inch barrel. Is this CT legal with a removable muzzle device? Or would you need a pinned and welded muzzle brake/supressor mount? Obviously all NFA rules followed. Is the ATF requiring Aw registrations on SBR applications that are not AW's? |
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Originally Posted By Andrapos:
Less than 12" barrel classifies it as a pistol/handgun in CT. Get it to +12" barrel with +30" overall length and it could be legal if not on the named ban list Would that count for registered post ban ARs? Hypothetically ATF approves a form 1 but you still need 12+ inches for the state? |
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Originally Posted By IHTFP08:
any links to exceptions? ie more specifically, in the military getting stationed in CT. IIRC military is good to go as long as you are active. Once you are done in the military you have 90fays to register (if you decide to stay) |
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Originally Posted By Tbr1806:
IIRC military is good to go as long as you are active. Once you are done in the military you have 90fays to register (if you decide to stay) Originally Posted By Tbr1806:
Originally Posted By IHTFP08:
any links to exceptions? ie more specifically, in the military getting stationed in CT. IIRC military is good to go as long as you are active. Once you are done in the military you have 90fays to register (if you decide to stay) can you point me in the direction to read the law myself? I cant find anything. It's only for 6 months, I just like to read it myself rather than rely on second hand info. ETA: http://www.cga.ct.gov/2013/rpt/2013-R-0001.htm "Members of the military who move to Connecticut, after October 1, 1994, have 90 days to get a certificate of possession for any legally possessed assault weapon (CGS §§ 53-202d(b))." http://www.ct.gov/despp/cwp/view.asp?a=4213&q=494616 "Who may possess Assault Weapons in Connecticut? Law enforcement and military personnel may possess Assault Weapons in connection with their official duties" I can't find a blanket military exemption. And what exactly constitutes official duties? I interpret supporting and defending the Constitution as my 24/7 as my official duty. |
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found my answers, look like .mil is exempt from everything:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1779409_Selling_Assault_Rifle_to_CT_state.html&page=3#i55179660 |
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Hey gang, just getting into the AR game myself. I am going tomorrow to pick up a colt sporter HBAR. I've been reading this thread and ones like it for days but I can't find the specific answer to my question, hoping you guys can help.
I plan to grab a new upper receiver with a flat top and a few other bits and pieces, eventually culminating in two different upper sets. The original 22" 1 in 7, and a 16". My question is this, If the lower is a preban, which it will be, is it legal to have banned features (let's say a flash hider or collapsible stock for example) on the modified rifle? So could I put a new barrel and upper on the rifle along with the factory (non pinned) flash hider? On a slightly separate topic, do magpul AFGs count as a vertical fore grip in CT? Thanks in advance guys. |
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Originally Posted By Beetlebz:
Hey gang, just getting into the AR game myself. I am going tomorrow to pick up a colt sporter HBAR. I've been reading this thread and ones like it for days but I can't find the specific answer to my question, hoping you guys can help. I plan to grab a new upper receiver with a flat top and a few other bits and pieces, eventually culminating in two different upper sets. The original 22" 1 in 7, and a 16". My question is this, If the lower is a preban, which it will be, is it legal to have banned features (let's say a flash hider or collapsible stock for example) on the modified rifle? So could I put a new barrel and upper on the rifle along with the factory (non pinned) flash hider? Yes, add whatever features you would like. On a slightly separate topic, do magpul AFGs count as a vertical fore grip in CT? On a preban rifle it won't matter anyway. Or are you talking about adding this to a post ban firearm to find compliance (a la. Mad Smith Style), or to a pistol? Thanks in advance guys. |
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In regards to the AFG, both. I settled on a magpul hand stop kit for my troy PAR, but for extra leverage the AFG was perfect. Some say being a pump it doesn't matter, but I'm pretty sure it still can't have a VFG. And shamefully I must admit I got awfully used to the AFG and thumb-over-bore grip back in my airsoft days..
Thanks so much for the super fast reply. |
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I want to make sure I have this correct....
So if I have a pre-ban AR and I want to SBR It, the form 1 creates a new firearm. So the fact that it's a pre-ban means nothing (because it's now a new firearm) and I would need to remove the flash hider and pistol grip and pin the stock for it to be compliant. Am I in the right ballpark here? |
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Originally Posted By Beetlebz:
I want to make sure I have this correct.... So if I have a pre-ban AR and I want to SBR It, the form 1 creates a new firearm. So the fact that it's a pre-ban means nothing (because it's now a new firearm) and I would need to remove the flash hider and pistol grip and pin the stock for it to be compliant. Am I in the right ballpark here? No, you can have as many evil features as you want on a pre-ban, even if you SBR it. But you will need to obtain a certificate of possession from DPS before the ATF will sign off on a form 1. |
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Originally Posted By Tbr1806:
No, you can have as many evil features as you want on a pre-ban, even if you SBR it. But you will need to obtain a certificate of possession from DPS before the ATF will sign off on a form 1. Originally Posted By Tbr1806:
Originally Posted By Beetlebz:
I want to make sure I have this correct.... So if I have a pre-ban AR and I want to SBR It, the form 1 creates a new firearm. So the fact that it's a pre-ban means nothing (because it's now a new firearm) and I would need to remove the flash hider and pistol grip and pin the stock for it to be compliant. Am I in the right ballpark here? No, you can have as many evil features as you want on a pre-ban, even if you SBR it. But you will need to obtain a certificate of possession from DPS before the ATF will sign off on a form 1. Are they issuing new certs for prebans? I honestly don't know. |
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Originally Posted By pedorrero79:
Are they issuing new certs for prebans? I honestly don't know. Originally Posted By pedorrero79:
Originally Posted By Tbr1806:
Originally Posted By Beetlebz:
I want to make sure I have this correct.... So if I have a pre-ban AR and I want to SBR It, the form 1 creates a new firearm. So the fact that it's a pre-ban means nothing (because it's now a new firearm) and I would need to remove the flash hider and pistol grip and pin the stock for it to be compliant. Am I in the right ballpark here? No, you can have as many evil features as you want on a pre-ban, even if you SBR it. But you will need to obtain a certificate of possession from DPS before the ATF will sign off on a form 1. Are they issuing new certs for prebans? I honestly don't know. Yes, you may need proof of preban status though, like a mfg letter stating date of manufacture |
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Originally Posted By Mikehikes:
Would that count for registered post ban ARs? Hypothetically ATF approves a form 1 but you still need 12+ inches for the state? Originally Posted By Mikehikes:
Originally Posted By Andrapos:
Less than 12" barrel classifies it as a pistol/handgun in CT. Get it to +12" barrel with +30" overall length and it could be legal if not on the named ban list Would that count for registered post ban ARs? Hypothetically ATF approves a form 1 but you still need 12+ inches for the state? Say what? Are you saying that you can't form 1 a 11.5" or less SBR on a registered post ban AR? |
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Originally Posted By coloncommando: Say what? Are you saying that you can't form 1 a 11.5" or less SBR on a registered post ban AR? Originally Posted By coloncommando: Originally Posted By Mikehikes: Originally Posted By Andrapos: Less than 12" barrel classifies it as a pistol/handgun in CT. Get it to +12" barrel with +30" overall length and it could be legal if not on the named ban list Would that count for registered post ban ARs? Hypothetically ATF approves a form 1 but you still need 12+ inches for the state? Say what? Are you saying that you can't form 1 a 11.5" or less SBR on a registered post ban AR? The problem would be if you don't have a pistol permit. Aids cannons need a barrel over 12 He was referring to the Ares gun possibly being legal |
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Originally Posted By zegermanznew:
Can someone provide me a link to the statue about carrying transporting a pistol to/from the range or place of business WITHOUT a permit? Thanks Edited: transporting I'll see if I can find it but IIRC, you cannot transport a pistol without a permit. They are allowed to be carryd in home or in your place of business but cannot even be transported between the two. |
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Best I could find is the 2011 General Statute 29-35a.
That is the one that says you can transport so long as it is unloaded and in a separate vehicle compartment, or if there isn't another compartment in the vehicle, unloaded and locked inside a container etc. Can you really not at all, now? Thats retarded if true. |
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Originally Posted By Tbr1806:
I'll see if I can find it but IIRC, you cannot transport a pistol without a permit. They are allowed to be carryd in home or in your place of business but cannot even be transported between the two. Originally Posted By Tbr1806:
Originally Posted By zegermanznew:
Can someone provide me a link to the statue about carrying transporting a pistol to/from the range or place of business WITHOUT a permit? Thanks Edited: transporting I'll see if I can find it but IIRC, you cannot transport a pistol without a permit. They are allowed to be carryd in home or in your place of business but cannot even be transported between the two. I know they can't "carry" it, but not even transport, too? That'd be un real. How would one get it to work? UPS? ha! 
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What does the state consider "permanent" regarding magazines?
Pop rivets, or magblocks? Or magblocks with pop riveted base plates? I'm looking for 10/30's and I found some from charliecoopers and jestice and hartatac. Some offer epoxy over baseplate, and some are just a simple rivet. I wonder what the state defines permanent as. And what is acceptable. Then if you look at it this way a simple roll pin is permanent. Pinned flash hiders are a permanent way of extending the barrel length to 16 from 14.5... Anyone know what the state says is acceptable on 10/30's? I have hexmag 10/30's now but the OAL width is wider than pmags and fight very tight in my PWA. |
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Originally Posted By jgreen2193:
That's good to hear. I wish we could find out from the state somehow what is acceptable under the law. I'd hate to be "that guy" to email them and then get it ruined.  I just spoke with a local FFL who tried to get an answer out of them with no luck. If he couldn't get an answer, I don't think you will. |
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Originally Posted By Tbr1806:
I just spoke with a local FFL who tried to get an answer out of them with no luck. If he couldn't get an answer, I don't think you will. Originally Posted By Tbr1806:
Originally Posted By jgreen2193:
That's good to hear. I wish we could find out from the state somehow what is acceptable under the law. I'd hate to be "that guy" to email them and then get it ruined. I just spoke with a local FFL who tried to get an answer out of them with no luck. If he couldn't get an answer, I don't think you will. 10-32 thru bolt with a nylon threaded lock washer? 
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Just because im new to all of this I figured id ask, been searching and cant get a definite answer.
22LR AR variants are NOT GTG correct? Been tossing around the idea of getting one if there are ways to have a cheap fun gun to go and shoot without my wallet being set on fire. |
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You can buy a stag 22 ar that's all milspec. Including upper and lower. But it's modified where you cannot shoot centerfire without switching parts. Swapping the extension tube and shooting centerfire with it puts you at risk of getting caught and breaking the law within this state.
You can buy a smith wesson mp15-22 Rimfire rifles are AW's if they have 2 evil features ALONG WITH a detachable mag. So if it has a pistol grip only that is the ONE allowed evil feature. One more feature and then it's labeled as an AW. Look at the feature list for further understanding what the features actually are. They are all ridiculous. |
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Originally Posted By jgreen2193:
You can buy a stag 22 ar that's all milspec. Including upper and lower. But it's modified where you cannot shoot centerfire without switching parts. Swapping the extension tube and shooting centerfire with it puts you at risk of getting caught and breaking the law within this state. You can buy a smith wesson mp15-22 Rimfire rifles are AW's if they have 2 evil features ALONG WITH a detachable mag. So if it has a pistol grip only that is the ONE allowed evil feature. One more feature and then it's labeled as an AW. Look at the feature list for further understanding what the features actually are. They are all ridiculous. I would honestly just keep it rimfire, I have no issues with it and have alot of it already! I just figure this would be a fun thing to shoot and it be cheaper to buy and fire than a preban. I will have to look at the feature list before I start adding any parts to it. Looks like the CT version of the S&W M&P 15-22 has a pistol grip and removable mag, so im out of features already!!!!! |
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Originally Posted By plinker8:
I would honestly just keep it rimfire, I have no issues with it and have alot of it already! I just figure this would be a fun thing to shoot and it be cheaper to buy and fire than a preban. I will have to look at the feature list before I start adding any parts to it. Looks like the CT version of the S&W M&P 15-22 has a pistol grip and removable mag, so im out of features already!!!!! Originally Posted By plinker8:
Originally Posted By jgreen2193:
You can buy a stag 22 ar that's all milspec. Including upper and lower. But it's modified where you cannot shoot centerfire without switching parts. Swapping the extension tube and shooting centerfire with it puts you at risk of getting caught and breaking the law within this state. You can buy a smith wesson mp15-22 Rimfire rifles are AW's if they have 2 evil features ALONG WITH a detachable mag. So if it has a pistol grip only that is the ONE allowed evil feature. One more feature and then it's labeled as an AW. Look at the feature list for further understanding what the features actually are. They are all ridiculous. I would honestly just keep it rimfire, I have no issues with it and have alot of it already! I just figure this would be a fun thing to shoot and it be cheaper to buy and fire than a preban. I will have to look at the feature list before I start adding any parts to it. Looks like the CT version of the S&W M&P 15-22 has a pistol grip and removable mag, so im out of features already!!!!! Yes |
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I have a question. My father has two .22 long rifles he would like to give me. They have been at his house unused and untouched for years and he doesn't have a CT pistol permit or any other permit. I have a CT pistol permit. If he wants to give these long guns to me, do I have to file paperwork to legally posses these guns if I take them off of his property? Can I take them off the property if I am "borrowing" them with his permission? Is this area of the law with regards to long guns realistically enforced? Per the instructions below:
On or after April 1, 2014 The buyer cannot be prohibited from possessing firearms. Buyer must present the seller one of the following; a valid long gun eligibility certificate, a valid permit to carry a pistol or revolver, a valid permit to sell at retail a pistol or revolver, or a valid eligibility certificate for a pistol or revolver. Call DESPP (860) 685-8400, or 1-(888) 335-8438 for an authorization number. The buyer fills out a DPS-67-C form and the seller retains it for 20 years. The seller fills out DPS-3-C form (4 copies total). The seller retains the original (for at least 5 years). One copy goes to the buyer at point of sale/transfer. One copy goes to the Commissioner of Emergency Services and Public Protection. The final copy goes to the chief of police or the warden of the borough or the first selectman, of the town in which the buyer resides. The DPS-3-C form asks for the sellers firearms permit #. My dad does not have any permit, but I believe he is legal in owning these guns since they never leave the property. Is he legally able to transfer the guns to me without holding any permit even though the form asks for it? I would like to possess these long guns in accordance with all state and federal laws. Thanks, Loote |
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Originally Posted By loote: I have a question. My father has two .22 long rifles he would like to give me. They have been at his house unused and untouched for years and he doesn't have a CT pistol permit or any other permit. I have a CT pistol permit. If he wants to give these long guns to me, do I have to file paperwork to legally posses these guns if I take them off of his property? Can I take them off the property if I am "borrowing" them with his permission? Is this area of the law with regards to long guns realistically enforced? Per the instructions below: On or after April 1, 2014 The buyer cannot be prohibited from possessing firearms. Buyer must present the seller one of the following; a valid long gun eligibility certificate, a valid permit to carry a pistol or revolver, a valid permit to sell at retail a pistol or revolver, or a valid eligibility certificate for a pistol or revolver. Call DESPP (860) 685-8400, or 1-(888) 335-8438 for an authorization number. The buyer fills out a DPS-67-C form and the seller retains it for 20 years. The seller fills out DPS-3-C form (4 copies total). The seller retains the original (for at least 5 years). One copy goes to the buyer at point of sale/transfer. One copy goes to the Commissioner of Emergency Services and Public Protection. The final copy goes to the chief of police or the warden of the borough or the first selectman, of the town in which the buyer resides. The DPS-3-C form asks for the sellers firearms permit #. My dad does not have any permit, but I believe he is legal in owning these guns since they never leave the property. Is he legally able to transfer the guns to me without holding any permit even though the form asks for it? I would like to possess these long guns in accordance with all state and federal laws. Thanks, Loote Too bad your father didn't give them to you before 04/01/14. Back then face to face transactions were OK and there was no registering so state would not have to have been notified. |
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I've applied for a position in CT. Most of my toys would be illegal there so they will stay at my current residence or safely stored elsewhere.
The way that I'm reading things a solid stock Mini-14/30/6.8, an M1 carbine, or basically any "standard" stock rifle is ok as long as the magazine is under 10 rounds, has no evil features, and it's not specifically forbidden on the lists? Would a VZ58 with a pistol grip, pinned (mag pinned in rifle) 10 rd magazine, solid stock, no bayonet lug and permed muzzle break be gtg? (you load it with stripper clips like an SKS) |