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Posted: 5/15/2023 10:05:42 PM EDT
I have a Surefire Muzzle brake for sale and a guy from Washington state is interested, he mentioned being from Washington as a caveat and I started looking into the new laws over there which I was completely unaware of. Just looking for some input from you guys as I'm sure you have scoured every bit of the new laws. Mainly curious whether or not I'm good to ship a muzzle brake into WA.
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Simply put M4tty, you aren’t. No muzzle devices can be shipped. Hell, probably not even for a bolt action.
ETA: while I’d say don’t ask/don’t tell, a direct electronic paper trail of a sale like that could come back to bite you. |
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I think muzzle devices can ship. Silencer Shop just shipped two to me.
What is no go are threaded barrels for pistols. That turns an otherwise harmless semi auto pistol into an extremely dangerous assault weapon. But once it's got a threaded barrel adding a muzzle device doesn't make it any saltier: it's already salty so the muzzle device isn't a part that can make a gun into an AW unlike the barrel OP: do whatever you feel comfortable with, our laws are pretty confusing right now |
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Another way they can Fk you.. You can buy a suppressor but can't buy the matching barrel.
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I swear there's a lot of people in this very htf that embrace their chains and can't wait to jump through the next hoop our "dear leaders" set up for us
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I just left WA after decades.
IDK WTF the new law says, but I would definitely ship a muzzle brake without worrying about it. I moved because they stacked the deck against me to deep. I could no longer do ftf, I could no longer purchase standard capacity mags, and just recently they declared everything including my pecker to be an assault weapon. Fuck Jay inslee, fuck sideshow bob. |
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Quoted: Ah yes a man of few but very succinct words. I'm assuming you didn't pay any federal or state income taxes last year? I don't even live in Washington, in case you didn't notice my state is missing a V on the first letter. View Quote Ahhhh the famous challenge. Next you’ll be asking me to post photos of a machine gun. That’s how all these retarded measurements work. You have to find what ever line you’re willing to draw it at. Unfortunately you seem like you prefer the taste of boot leather. Many Washington shops refuse to follow unjust and illegal laws and still sell full cap mags. There are plent lot of people here who are as free as they are willing to be. You chose to bow to tyrants… or you are a part of the tyrants glowing henchmen. Either way… freedoms is a decision you have to choose. Or don’t choose. It’s up to you. Also. FYI Washington doesn’t have state income tax. |
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Quoted: Alot of words and not many answers, Mr. High and Mighty. Again, I don't live in Washington, so who's tasting the leather again? Put your money where your mouth is or shut your mouth. Also, I'm unsubscribing from this thread but you just keep being free, freedomsaurus. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/B36CCA6B-74D8-4030-93AB-B868B6F9E8A9-393.gif View Quote Good riddance |
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Quoted: Like people who live in Washington state? Lead the charge, Custer. It's easy to be flippant with someone elses freedom. View Quote Ah, freedom. That absolute thing we all cherish…….as long as it’s on an approved list. How many mags have you brought into a ban state? When you reach a number even remotely close to mine you may proceed to talk shit. Until then, zip it. Good luck selling your muzzle brake. Hopefully you find a state that is acceptable to the king. |
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Back to what he was asking...I believe it is OK because it is not the barrel itself and muzzle devices are used on non "assault weapons" as well. The annoying part is there is not a clear answer because the powers that be want to make you afraid to buy anything.
Fuck this guy. Attached File |
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These are the guys I hate to run into. Nobody would ever know or care. Yet they wanna hold the jackboot line.
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Quoted: Facts, it's the same type of person who asks to see my ID or wants a bill of sale with my address and all my info during a face to face. Fuckith no View Quote (I'd make those stipulations clear in my EE ad to give people such as yourself plenty of heads up). |
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Quoted: I always asked for a show of drivers license and CCW permit to prove they were 1) of age 2) not a felon. (I'd make those stipulations clear in my EE ad to give people such as yourself plenty of heads up). View Quote Agreed. I always made sure the person that I was selling (private transfer) a firearm to was legit. It’s common sense and CYA if you are selling someone a firearm that’s registered in your name. I sold a gun once to a fellow Soldier and got a phone call from a detective a couple years later that a gun that was registered to me end up in a stolen vehicle and a felon in possession of a firearm. That’s one example why you keep records. |
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Quoted: Agreed. I always made sure the person that I was selling (private transfer) a firearm to was legit. It's common sense and CYA if you are selling someone a firearm that's registered in your name. I sold a gun once to a fellow Soldier and got a phone call from a detective a couple years later that a gun that was registered to me end up in a stolen vehicle and a felon in possession of a firearm. That's one example why you keep records. View Quote Never kept one record, never checked one id. If you are old enough and I have no reason to believe you are a bad guy you are gtg. I've had two end up at crime scenes. Few questions to see if I knew anything and that was the last i ever heard on it. |
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Quoted: Never kept one record, never checked one id. If you are old enough and I have no reason to believe you are a bad guy you are gtg. I've had two end up at crime scenes. Few questions to see if I knew anything and that was the last i ever heard on it. View Quote No disrespect intended, but maybe if you had checked on a couple of those sales, your 2 firearms wouldn’t have ended up in crime scenes. Hopefully there were no true victims involved. |
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Quoted: No disrespect intended, but maybe if you had checked on a couple of those sales, your 2 firearms wouldn't have ended up in crime scenes. Hopefully there were no true victims involved. View Quote You did all that shit and yours still ended up in the hands of a felon. Seems like testimony to a waste of time and effort. |
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Hopefully turd furgeson wont put any private sellers (from when it was legal) under the microscope with his new gun "nuisance" law. I wouldnt put it past him. Especially if the gun was used in a high profile crime.
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Quoted: Hopefully turd furgeson wont put any private sellers (from when it was legal) under the microscope with his new gun "nuisance" law. I wouldnt put it past him. Especially if the gun was used in a high profile crime. View Quote There was never any legal requirements for any type of screening. And as we saw above, it doesn't prevent anything |
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Quoted: There was never any legal requirements for any type of screening. View Quote Now whether that could come back legally and bite you in the ass with a shit tonn of civil litigation (if that kid or felon commited a crime or killed/injured someone) I dunno, but I'd of prefered not to live with that. |
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Quoted: If you consider selling a gun to a fellon or someone under age, not legal nor a good idea, then yeah there was screening to do. View Quote I've never considered either. Again, while I'm a "you do you" guy, your argument supports anti gun universal background checks. And despite being redundant, above proves all the paperwork and a pap smear and the gun still ends up in the hands of a felon at a crime scene. Might make some feel better, but zero net actual gain from any of it. Nobody knows what evil little in the hearts of men. Sandy hook iirc, were all papered up by Mom. Who he killed and then took her guns. All that wasted time and paper for naught |
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Quoted: Again, while I'm a "you do you" guy, your argument supports anti gun universal background checks. View Quote My whole argument here is: an individual has the freedom to set boundaries for THEIR business (guns or anything else). It has nothing to do with, nor supports or encourages gov overreach. If the libtards never put up 594 in 2014, you think my actions would have driven them to propose it?? Thats preposterous. Does what a person do with a gun after I sell it make me liable? No it shouldnt. Do I have a conscience and SELF govern who I sold to? Yes, and in the absence of gov overreach thats called freedom. Unfortunately now we dont have that freedom, but I didnt cause it or support it. We should be careful of making accusations amungst ourselves. Come'on man! |
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I didn't suggest you were anti gun.
I stated your argument supports the anti gun universal background check agenda. Pretending checking a license and cpl and keeping records prevents crime has been shown in this thread by a practitioner to be useless, akin to only selling a cookbook after weighing somebody and requiring BMI. Fruitless. But again, if it makes you feel better and sleep at night, knock yourself out. All pointless banter in it's totality since WA no longer legally permits ftf purchases. And since not one of the ftf purchases I've made in the last 6 months asked for any of that. "Come'on man! ", Joe Biden quote much? |
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Quoted: You guys sell guns? View Quote Speaking of gun sales, here is a picture of a assalt pistol,friend wanted me to order it, nope it’s a no go. Attached File |
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Quoted: Speaking of gun sales, here is a picture of a assalt pistol,friend wanted me to order it, nope it’s a no go. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/85971/EC202F55-D762-4F96-905B-99C9AA716B2F_jpe-2832852.JPG View Quote Yeah its pretty fucking annoying. AimSurplus is pretty much pointless to shop at now. Everything and anything that can be put on an AR/AK is now verboten. Tried to buy a CZ Shadow 2 from PSA, nope, assault pistol |
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Quoted: Yeah its pretty fucking annoying. AimSurplus is pretty much pointless to shop at now. Everything and anything that can be put on an AR/AK is now verboten. Tried to buy a CZ Shadow 2 from PSA, nope, assault pistol View Quote Why couldn’t you buy a Shadow 2? I’m guessing PSA is still not selling any serialized items here. |
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Quoted: Yeah its pretty fucking annoying. AimSurplus is pretty much pointless to shop at now. Everything and anything that can be put on an AR/AK is now verboten. Tried to buy a CZ Shadow 2 from PSA, nope, assault pistol View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Speaking of gun sales, here is a picture of a assalt pistol,friend wanted me to order it, nope it’s a no go. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/85971/EC202F55-D762-4F96-905B-99C9AA716B2F_jpe-2832852.JPG Yeah its pretty fucking annoying. AimSurplus is pretty much pointless to shop at now. Everything and anything that can be put on an AR/AK is now verboten. Tried to buy a CZ Shadow 2 from PSA, nope, assault pistol It’s beyond stupid, I even have a 07 FFL and thanks to Ferguson’s lawsuits Davidsons among others just don’t want to risk it, not that I blame them either. One distributor I deal with has stated they are working on exemptions to help FFL’s out. |
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Quoted: Like people who live in Washington state? Lead the charge, Custer. It's easy to be flippant with someone elses freedom. View Quote This. Some of us have families that depend on us, and gambling with the (BS, unconstitutional) law could have some really bad ripple effects. I’m still at a point where I hope the courts come through for us, but in the mean time I made sure to get us all the guns and parts we could want while still legal. |
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