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Posted: 12/3/2022 1:22:57 PM EDT
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Email me at [email protected]. I'll ask our lobbyist answer this for you.
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Posted: 12/3/2022 3:51:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Email me at [email protected]. I'll ask our lobbyist answer this for you. I'd be interested in an answer too. |
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Posted: 12/7/2022 4:26:08 AM EDT
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Quoted: Correct me if i'm wrong but, when constitutional carry was passed it amended the section that exempted the rule about requiring cased unloaded firearms on a public roadway. (Among other hings) The law never struck this rule from the record, but did effectively eliminate any circumstance in which it would apply to anyone. Is this a correct assumption? This just seems "clear as mud" as I head out to hunt and realize I can legally carry a rifle uncased and loaded, but it could lead to an argument and potential court costs with the dnr if I were to choose to do such a thing. |
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Posted: 12/7/2022 12:15:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: get your permit and don't worry about it. I have my permit Permits are irrelivant they don't do anything |
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Posted: 12/7/2022 1:30:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have my permit Permits are irrelivant they don't do anything "don't do anything" isn't quite right. there are other benefits. permits do speed up the process for purchasing a firearm as no instant background check needed if you have a permit. instant background checks have not been very "instant" in the past. a right delayed is a right denied. also doubles as a government issued ID when you need to provide another form of ID. and many states that have reciprocity with Iowa require that you have an Iowa permit to carry in their state. Dave, I am interested in what your lobbyist has to say about the original posters question. |
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Posted: 12/7/2022 4:31:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "don't do anything" isn't quite right. there are other benefits. permits do speed up the process for purchasing a firearm as no instant background check needed if you have a permit. instant background checks have not been very "instant" in the past. a right delayed is a right denied. also doubles as a government issued ID when you need to provide another form of ID. and many states that have reciprocity with Iowa require that you have an Iowa permit to carry in their state. Dave, I am interested in what your lobbyist has to say about the original posters question. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I have my permit Permits are irrelivant they don't do anything "don't do anything" isn't quite right. there are other benefits. permits do speed up the process for purchasing a firearm as no instant background check needed if you have a permit. instant background checks have not been very "instant" in the past. a right delayed is a right denied. also doubles as a government issued ID when you need to provide another form of ID. and many states that have reciprocity with Iowa require that you have an Iowa permit to carry in their state. Dave, I am interested in what your lobbyist has to say about the original posters question. Not to mention, a permit allows you to carry your handgun while bowhunting. It's still in the hunting regs that you can't carry while bowhunting unless you have a carry permit. But I've been curious about the OP's question myself. |
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Posted: 12/8/2022 11:31:18 PM EDT
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Richard, our lobbyist, is pretty busy right now drafting proposed legislation for this upcoming session. I'm not sure when he will reply to the request for clarification.
Remember all, we at IFC are all volunteers. I'm sure you could pay a lawyer $1500-2500 for an opinion if you're in a hurry. But Richard will give you the correct answer when he has time. |
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Posted: 12/10/2022 1:41:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have my permit Permits are irrelivant they don't do anything they let you carry an uncased gun of any type in your car. You will be charged if you don't have a permit. |
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Posted: 12/10/2022 9:24:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: they let you carry an uncased gun of any type in your car. You will be charged if you don't have a permit. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I have my permit Permits are irrelivant they don't do anything they let you carry an uncased gun of any type in your car. You will be charged if you don't have a permit. This get permit even now I still don't know why people wouldn't |
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Posted: 2/22/2023 12:57:13 PM EDT
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Having recipricary law enacted many think, "well no sense in spending $ on a permit"
there needs to be education on this. should maybe be pamphlets at sherrifs office or online with details mentioned in this thread. |
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Posted: 2/22/2023 6:19:17 PM EDT
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Plus the ability to bypass NICS check at time of sale. Worth the small fee in my opinion. IFC is currently working on a legislation change for "manner of conveyance "
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Posted: 2/26/2023 1:28:35 AM EDT
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One other benefit of having the carry permit is that you will not be prosecuted for driving through a gun free school zone armed, that doesn't mean the school parking lot, but with permit no issue while driving on the public roadway in front of a school which is pretty important.
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Posted: 3/2/2023 7:05:49 PM EDT
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I believe the cased gun issue still applies to anyone under 18, since the permitless carry law only covers 18 and up. My kid thinks it's stupid and can't understand why he has to case his gun and I don't. He's getting a good dose of laws that make no sense.
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Posted: 3/7/2023 5:49:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I believe the cased gun issue still applies to anyone under 18, since the permitless carry law only covers 18 and up. My kid thinks it's stupid and can't understand why he has to case his gun and I don't. He's getting a good dose of laws that make no sense. Pretty sure the Constitutional Carry law is 21+, not 18. They didn't drop the permit age to 18, that's still 21. |
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Posted: 3/11/2023 1:40:39 PM EDT
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Now that hunting season is over no need for guns to be in case's.
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Posted: 3/11/2023 2:52:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Now that hunting season is over no need for guns to be in case's. Coyote season is never over amd DNR has a huge hardon against mortals carrying loaded guns. |
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Posted: 3/18/2023 9:26:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Coyote season is never over amd DNR has a huge hardon against mortals carrying loaded guns. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Now that hunting season is over no need for guns to be in case's. Coyote season is never over amd DNR has a huge hardon against mortals carrying loaded guns. We have never had any problem carrying uncased loaded guns during hunting season DNR just asked if had a permit |
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Posted: 3/26/2023 5:34:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pretty sure the Constitutional Carry law is 21+, not 18. They didn't drop the permit age to 18, that's still 21. @New_Username I believe I got the age from this article: https://iowafc.org/2021/04/07/effects-of-hf756-constitutional-carry-bill-you-need-to-understand/ Michael is in the know on most things firearm related in this state, but I suppose he could be wrong. I believe it is inferred that 18 is the cutoff due to the new sections covering violations for minors and carrying. Everywhere I have looked in the Code of Iowa, a minor is someone under 18. |
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Posted: 3/26/2023 6:35:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @New_Username I believe I got the age from this article: https://iowafc.org/2021/04/07/effects-of-hf756-constitutional-carry-bill-you-need-to-understand/ Michael is in the know on most things firearm related in this state, but I suppose he could be wrong. I believe it is inferred that 18 is the cutoff due to the new sections covering violations for minors and carrying. Everywhere I have looked in the Code of Iowa, a minor is someone under 18. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Pretty sure the Constitutional Carry law is 21+, not 18. They didn't drop the permit age to 18, that's still 21. @New_Username I believe I got the age from this article: https://iowafc.org/2021/04/07/effects-of-hf756-constitutional-carry-bill-you-need-to-understand/ Michael is in the know on most things firearm related in this state, but I suppose he could be wrong. I believe it is inferred that 18 is the cutoff due to the new sections covering violations for minors and carrying. Everywhere I have looked in the Code of Iowa, a minor is someone under 18. I was under the impression the only exemption we have for handguns under 21 is when it's in a Professional setting, IE law enforcement. Constitutional Carry follows the same guidelines as our carry permit issuance, 21+ If you are 18, you will have a Professional Permit, and it's a non issue. If I have it wrong, I have it wrong, and will admit it. Always good to get correct info out there! |
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Posted: 3/26/2023 7:42:16 PM EDT
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Remember, there are more than handguns that Iowa carry laws cover. Dangerous weapons include all firearms (long guns included), knives, clubs, stun guns, etc. Any of those are available to an 18+ year old to purchase or possess. I don't know why they shouldn't be able to carry them too.
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Posted: 3/26/2023 9:57:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Remember, there are more than handguns that Iowa carry laws cover. Dangerous weapons include all firearms (long guns included), knives, clubs, stun guns, etc. Any of those are available to an 18+ year old to purchase or possess. I don't know why they shouldn't be able to carry them too. Most of those also stipulate having a valid PCW to carry those, Constitutional Carry as I understand it, does not give those a pass. Having a permit still does grant you many more valid ways to keep guns accessible, despite being Constitutional Carry, it isn't as blanket freedom as most think. Federal Gun Free School Zone Act comes into mind. |
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Posted: 3/27/2023 8:06:21 AM EDT
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Constitutional carry in Iowa absolutely covers those weapons, as Iowa carry laws have always covered dangerous weapons rather than just firearms.
I do agree that getting a permit is still probably the best answer for most people. I also think too many people in this state are still used to being told what they have permission to do, rather than what they have a right to be able to do. |
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