Let's say you had property in a major American city and it had been occupied by a business for nearly 100 years, but through decades of political bullshit and turmoil, it still didn't have city sewer services and you were stuck on an aging septic system. You could start the process of trying to get the city to install lines on your street and run your own septic lines, but realize this process may cost you dearly and take several years to complete.

We've already got a port-o-potty as a backup.  With just a few people using it during the recent rains and once a week cleaning, it's a pretty grim prospect to use it. It's just easier to pee outside for the men at this point.

What are my options?

I've seen office trailers and dedicated bathroom trailers with their own aboveground holding tank, then a contracted company would come out weekly or biweekly and pump it out. These had conventional toilets with none of the bowl fright of a port-o-john. Anyone know of a company in the DFW area that does that and approximate costs?

We've also consider an incinerator toilet, but we've never actually used one. Probably better than a portopotty, but probably more stinky in use.

And of course I could just bring in more port-o-potties and request biweekly cleaning.

Any other thoughts or suggestions?

https://dfwtoilets.com/

I just got quoted $4000/month for a two stall trailer.

That sounds pretty reasonable to me if it includes servicing.  That's what, probably a $10k trailer?
Or else you found another business opportunity.

poop is apparently good business.  Burleson septic is down the way from me and they appear to stay quite busy

Speaking professionally as someone who works with wastewater crews every day at work


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We've quickly come to the conclusion that I need to buy a construction office trailer with a bathroom and a holding tank and just have the tank serviced. At least then we could use the rest of the trailer as an employee break room.

Why not just replace the septic system?

I don't know that after permits and plans and everything with the city, that it would be cost effective and have any guarantee of working any better than it doesn't right now.

Why can't you just keep using the existing septic system?

Drainage is so poor, when you get more than 3/4" of rain, you can't flush for a day.

Pfffft......you need to do what we do do in Plano. Just claim "a valve stuck" and let your sewage run into White Rock Creek.

How many sqft or acres is the lot?  How much of that is covered by buildings, asphalt, and concrete?  If you are in the city limits how can you not simply get a permit to tie in to the city sewer system?

Literally OP's first sentence?

There is no sewer line on my street. The city would have to trench a new line to our property. There's actually miles of existing property without access. I when I say existing, it's been there more than 60 years.

Big city = zero fucks given.

It's tough to get anything in what's considered the shitty part of town.

I had city trash services for a while, if I was lucky, I'd actually get them to pick up the trash once every 3 weeks. After 6 months of bitching, I told them to come pick up their can. I contracted a dumpster with a private service.

Everyone has great internet, right? Especially if you can walk to the end of your driveway and see the AT&T world headquarters, right? Oh fuck no. Spectrum is the only one with a line in our area and it took me 8 months to get hooked up. I finally had to grab a repairman who was working down the street on the line, bring him to my place, show him the cable line on the power pole and asked him if they could hook me up. Everyone at Spectrum's corporate office denied there was line there.

Everything is like that. You just don't go downtown and get a permit to do anything, because in most cases, they never put anything in or don't have people assigned to the area.

Dallas got rid of those horrific Confederate statues in less time than it took to get rid of Shingle Mountain.

I met with a guy last week on a city board (not a city employee). We drove around the area discussing various problems. He was telling me how D Caraway was involved in gambling in the southern sector, basically as his own personal fundraiser and how he figured current leadership in the south was probably similarly tied.

If we can ever get DPS off the border, we need them back into town just to take down gambling joints that DPD won't touch because of political elites. It's somewhere between a cartel and an oligarchy, generating cash that you can't legitimately match. Dallas is due to send another councilman to prison, seems like there's at least one a decade.

Oddly, the City of Dallas has an aggressive program for residential properties where the city will furnish plumbing installation fees and associated costs to get a residence off septic and onto the sanitary sewer grid. But not for commercial accounts.

On the other note, much of Southern Dallas is run by organized criminal activity. This occurs at the street level with gangs but also runs through city and county government. If you peel back the curtain and look behind the scenes it becomes evident very quickly that the fix is in. An honest person cannot make a living or call that area home without paying protection or becoming part of a criminal network.

Poking around some can eventually lead to law enforcement taking on some crime. Most recently game cameras in South Dallas parks documented an illegal stolen ATV ring responsible for robberies, thefts etc. The investigation tied back into Kaufman County where the ATF busted up the ring with arrests I was told this morning.

Already been down that road. But hooking up isn't really the issue. The city never installed the infrastructure to begin with.

I've been offered "help" by a couple of officials, but that means absolutely nothing, and you have to consider the timelines. Months not days, years not months.

So let's say that prostitution is organized under this umbrella, no one ever feels like these girls who are brutally murdered and dumped are a problem, especially if our politicians are receiving money from it?

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The level of organization could be massive.

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