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Posted: 9/7/2018 12:31:53 PM EDT

DALLAS -- A Dallas police officer returning home from work shot and killed a neighbor after she said she mistook his apartment for her own, police said Friday. The officer called dispatch to report that she had shot the man Thursday night, police said. She told responding officers that she believed the victim's apartment was her own when she entered it.

Police haven't released the name of the officer, who wasn't injured. She will be placed on administrative leave pending the outcome of the investigation, police said.

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:aLvlPNCz7MgJ:https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2018/09/06/shooting-reported-cedars-near-dallas-police-headquarters+&cd=34&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Enters another's home, shoots, kills, and magically not arrested or even named. Did not even offer first-aid (responding officers did). Why am I not surprised?

Posted: 9/7/2018 12:45:25 PM EDT

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I bet there was no history of problems between those neighbors either.......

Posted: 9/7/2018 1:10:57 PM EDT

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Wow........what a shit show.

Posted: 9/7/2018 1:19:30 PM EDT

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Returning home from work or returning home from having drinks after work? I don't see how a sober person mistakes another apartment for their own.

Posted: 9/7/2018 1:28:01 PM EDT

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There's a lot more to this story than what's being reported.

Posted: 9/7/2018 1:43:44 PM EDT

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And now the press conference scheduled for 1130 still has not happened. Looks like they want to wait till all the local noon news stations are off the air and will not carry it live.

Posted: 9/7/2018 1:58:05 PM EDT

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Presser just started. Chief says they are seeking a warrant for manslaughter right now. Getting blood samples too. Officer is white, will be named when booked. Somehow Chief does not know when officers shift ended, thus we do not know the gap in time between end of shift and shooting (we can guess where she was). Texas Rangers are now in charge of investigation.

In before BLM protests!

Posted: 9/7/2018 2:01:45 PM EDT

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That story really dibesnt pass the BS test.

Posted: 9/7/2018 4:13:30 PM EDT

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Could have easily been avoided.

Posted: 9/7/2018 6:38:19 PM EDT

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No details yet, but I bet its hard to see those colors late at night through beer goggles or her drink of choice. Conveniently it sounds like no blood draw until 12 hours after the incident. That or there was some messed up love situation gone bad.

Posted: 9/7/2018 6:47:51 PM EDT

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No details yet, but I bet its hard to see those colors late at night through beer goggles or her drink of choice. Conveniently it sounds like no blood draw until 12 hours after the incident. That or there was some messed up love situation gone bad.

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That's the joke.

They had to start painting different colors on doors in Dublin because the Irish were too drunk to find their own homes. Something doesn't smell right in this story.

Posted: 9/7/2018 6:48:47 PM EDT

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No details yet, but I bet its hard to see those colors late at night through beer goggles or her drink of choice. Conveniently it sounds like no blood draw until 12 hours after the incident. That or there was some messed up love situation gone bad.

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No details yet, but I bet its hard to see those colors late at night through beer goggles or her drink of choice. Conveniently it sounds like no blood draw until 12 hours after the incident. That or there was some messed up love situation gone bad.

From what was said on the radio today, she had recently gotten off work and was in uniform that her apartment was a block from the station. Should have done a blood draw in the first hour or two.

What gets me is don't you lock the door in an apartment? If the guy shot had locked his door she would have never gotten in, especially if she was really drunk.

Posted: 9/7/2018 6:55:20 PM EDT

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What gets me is don't you lock the door in an apartment? If the guy shot had locked his door she would have never gotten in, especially if she was really drunk.

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It is being reported it is same apt on different floor, which seems likely for this type of error. She tried to enter, deceased her door noise, opened door for Officer Friendly and she shot him.

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A Dallas police officer, who spoke with NBC 5 under the condition of anonymity, said the female officer was assigned to the department's elite Crime Response Team and had just finished a 14-hour shift serving warrants in high-crime areas. When she arrived home, she took the elevator to the 14th floor, though her apartment is on the 13th floor. She then went to what she thought was her door, put the key in and struggled with the lock. She then put down several things she was holding and continued to fight with the key when the resident swung open the door and startled her. The officer believed Jean, who was wearing only underwear, was an intruder and shot him with her service weapon. It wasn't until police and rescue units began arriving that she realized she was not at her apartment. Once realizing her deadly mistake, she became emotional and fully cooperated with officers, including offering to provide blood samples.

Posted: 9/7/2018 9:25:30 PM EDT

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I’m pretty sure that’s murder.

Posted: 9/7/2018 9:35:54 PM EDT

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Ok, I was wrong. I can see her getting confused in that situation. Work 14 hour shift, get to your building, probably busy looking at her phone not paying attention to what floor she hit on the elevator and half paying attention trying to open the wrong door.

BUT why when her key didn't work, why would you not look at the number on the door? And unless that person answered the door with a gun in hand pointed at her, why would she just shoot some guy in his underwear?

Posted: 9/7/2018 10:12:51 PM EDT

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Ok, I was wrong. I can see her getting confused in that situation. Work 14 hour shift, get to your building, probably busy looking at her phone not paying attention to what floor she hit on the elevator and half paying attention trying to open the wrong door.

BUT why when her key didn't work, why would you not look at the number on the door? And unless that person answered the door with a gun in hand pointed at her, why would she just shoot some guy in his underwear?

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Even if the guy answered the door of his apartment had a gun in his hand (doesn't sound like he did), she is up shit creek for shooting the guy. Bad part is you have 2 good people who who's lives are ruined.

I live in a pretty nice safe neighborhood and if you are at my front door I do not ever unlock and open the door until I know who is there. Now until I am 100% sure I want to unlock and open my door I have a gun in my hand ready to shoot if needed.

Posted: 9/7/2018 10:14:19 PM EDT

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Even if the guy answered the door of his apartment had a gun in his hand (doesn't sound like he did), she is up shit creek for shooting the guy. Bad part is you have 2 good people who who's lives are ruined.

I live in a pretty nice safe neighborhood and if you are at my front door I do not ever unlock and open the door until I know who is there. Now until I am 100% sure I want to unlock and open my door I have a gun in my hand ready to shoot if needed.

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Ok, I was wrong. I can see her getting confused in that situation. Work 14 hour shift, get to your building, probably busy looking at her phone not paying attention to what floor she hit on the elevator and half paying attention trying to open the wrong door.

BUT why when her key didn't work, why would you not look at the number on the door? And unless that person answered the door with a gun in hand pointed at her, why would she just shoot some guy in his underwear?

Even if the guy answered the door of his apartment had a gun in his hand (doesn't sound like he did), she is up shit creek for shooting the guy. Bad part is you have 2 good people who who's lives are ruined.

I live in a pretty nice safe neighborhood and if you are at my front door I do not ever unlock and open the door until I know who is there. Now until I am 100% sure I want to unlock and open my door I have a gun in my hand ready to shoot if needed.

Would suck to get shot for opening your own door for the police

Posted: 9/7/2018 10:47:11 PM EDT

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Ok, I was wrong. I can see her getting confused in that situation. Work 14 hour shift, get to your building, probably busy looking at her phone not paying attention to what floor she hit on the elevator and half paying attention trying to open the wrong door.

BUT why when her key didn't work, why would you not look at the number on the door? And unless that person answered the door with a gun in hand pointed at her, why would she just shoot some guy in his underwear?

Even if the guy answered the door of his apartment had a gun in his hand (doesn't sound like he did), she is up shit creek for shooting the guy. Bad part is you have 2 good people who who's lives are ruined.

I live in a pretty nice safe neighborhood and if you are at my front door I do not ever unlock and open the door until I know who is there. Now until I am 100% sure I want to unlock and open my door I have a gun in my hand ready to shoot if needed.

Would suck to get shot for opening your own door for the police

It happens poor than you think, many time no knock warrants can turn into a shit shop real fast. If they indentify themselves as LEO I have no problem opening the door without a gun in my hand.

Posted: 9/7/2018 10:50:01 PM EDT

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It happens poor than you think, many time no knock warrants can turn into a shit shop real fast. If they indentify themselves as LEO I have no problem opening the door without a gun in my hand.

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Ok, I was wrong. I can see her getting confused in that situation. Work 14 hour shift, get to your building, probably busy looking at her phone not paying attention to what floor she hit on the elevator and half paying attention trying to open the wrong door.

BUT why when her key didn't work, why would you not look at the number on the door? And unless that person answered the door with a gun in hand pointed at her, why would she just shoot some guy in his underwear?

Even if the guy answered the door of his apartment had a gun in his hand (doesn't sound like he did), she is up shit creek for shooting the guy. Bad part is you have 2 good people who who's lives are ruined.

I live in a pretty nice safe neighborhood and if you are at my front door I do not ever unlock and open the door until I know who is there. Now until I am 100% sure I want to unlock and open my door I have a gun in my hand ready to shoot if needed.

Would suck to get shot for opening your own door for the police

It happens poor than you think, many time no knock warrants can turn into a shit shop real fast. If they indentify themselves as LEO I have no problem opening the door without a gun in my hand.

More fun when bad guys tell you they are the police

Posted: 9/7/2018 11:14:43 PM EDT

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Sad situation for the victim.

I don't think working a 14 hour shift was as much of an issue as the job she was working - serving warrants. This is another reason I don't think women should be in these types of positions, just too much volatility. Women are easily startled and usually react poorly, as in this case.

Posted: 9/8/2018 10:05:29 AM EDT

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Ok, I was wrong. I can see her getting confused in that situation. Work 14 hour shift, get to your building, probably busy looking at her phone not paying attention to what floor she hit on the elevator and half paying attention trying to open the wrong door.

BUT why when her key didn't work, why would you not look at the number on the door? And unless that person answered the door with a gun in hand pointed at her, why would she just shoot some guy in his underwear?

Even if the guy answered the door of his apartment had a gun in his hand (doesn't sound like he did), she is up shit creek for shooting the guy. Bad part is you have 2 good people who who's lives are ruined.

I live in a pretty nice safe neighborhood and if you are at my front door I do not ever unlock and open the door until I know who is there. Now until I am 100% sure I want to unlock and open my door I have a gun in my hand ready to shoot if needed.

Would suck to get shot for opening your own door for the police

It happens poor than you think, many time no knock warrants can turn into a shit shop real fast. If they indentify themselves as LEO I have no problem opening the door without a gun in my hand.

More fun when bad guys tell you they are the police

Better be in full uniform and show ID and warrants if asked. I don't have a PD where I live only Sheriffs.

Posted: 9/8/2018 12:14:52 PM EDT

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Mind boggling:

"The officer has not been interviewed and was not detained. She was allowed to leave since a warrant has not been formally issued yet"

Posted: 9/8/2018 12:36:35 PM EDT

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If this has been anyone other than a cop that would have never happened.

Posted: 9/8/2018 2:10:32 PM EDT

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Since when is a warrant required to make an arrest?

I think they may give the case to a Grand Jury.

Posted: 9/8/2018 2:13:25 PM EDT

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Ever since it became SOP to have a crime scene, have a murder victim, have a smoking gun, have a suspect holding the smoking gun, have suspect admit to shooting the victim, and then you do not interview the suspect and let the suspect go.

Apparently that is how the DPD rolls when the suspect has a DPD uniform.

NEW DPD Investigative Process:

Is there a crime scene? Yes.
Is there a murder victim? Yes.
Is there a smoking gun? Yes.
Is suspect holding the smoking gun? Yes.
Is suspect a DPD officer? Yes.

ACTION: Then you do not interview the suspect and let the suspect go.

Posted: 9/8/2018 4:15:09 PM EDT

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https://newsone.com/3825718/amber-guyger-amy-gyger-dallas-police-shooting/

Who knows if this is true or not

But when there is no transparency, this is the result.

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Posted: 9/8/2018 5:45:22 PM EDT

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Ok, I was wrong. I can see her getting confused in that situation. Work 14 hour shift, get to your building, probably busy looking at her phone not paying attention to what floor she hit on the elevator and half paying attention trying to open the wrong door.

BUT why when her key didn't work, why would you not look at the number on the door? And unless that person answered the door with a gun in hand pointed at her, why would she just shoot some guy in his underwear?

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The 2nd paragraph (in red) doesn't make sense to me, either.

Posted: 9/8/2018 5:58:25 PM EDT

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Looks like a really bad situation just got worse

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/09/08/mother-black-man-shot-dead-by-white-dallas-officer-wonders-if-race-played-pivotal-role.html

Posted: 9/9/2018 11:13:55 AM EDT

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Sad situation for the victim.

I don't think working a 14 hour shift was as much of an issue as the job she was working - serving warrants. This is another reason I don't think women should be in these types of positions, just too much volatility. Women are easily startled and usually react poorly, as in this case.

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Wow, sexist much?

They filed manslaughter on the officer, which it had to be between that and criminally negligent homicide.

This is a horrible thing that happened.

Posted: 9/9/2018 11:22:30 AM EDT

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No charges/warrant have been filed yet.

Posted: 9/9/2018 11:33:59 AM EDT

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Wow, sexist much?

They filed manslaughter on the officer, which it had to be between that and criminally negligent homicide.

This is a horrible thing that happened.

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Actually, they haven't filed shit yet. The Texas Rangers asked authorities to hold off on issuing any warrant until they had an opportunity to investigate some of the information that was provided during an interview they conducted with Guyger.

That being said, whatever charge may come down isn't necessarily going to be limited to manslaughter or CNH. Depending on what info is uncovered, there may well be a range of charges available.

Posted: 9/9/2018 1:27:23 PM EDT

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Wow, sexist much?

They filed manslaughter on the officer, which it had to be between that and criminally negligent homicide.

This is a horrible thing that happened.

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Call you what you want but facts aren't always politically correct. Are there exceptions to the rule? Always.

Posted: 9/9/2018 8:50:29 PM EDT

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She was just arrested and charged with manslaughter

Posted: 9/9/2018 9:07:45 PM EDT

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$300K Bond and just like that, she is free again.

Posted: 9/9/2018 9:57:09 PM EDT

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If she lived in California she would have been handed a reminder to return for trial and wouldn't have had to post anything.

Posted: 9/9/2018 10:00:56 PM EDT

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She was processed in Kaufman County, apparently she has been spending the last 2 days looking for her apt.

Posted: 9/9/2018 11:29:07 PM EDT

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What's your point?

Posted: 9/9/2018 11:31:52 PM EDT

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Not like she’s a flight risk

Posted: 9/9/2018 11:43:55 PM EDT

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I’d bet many in Dallas who get charged with similar crimes usually get much lower bond amounts. Is this an example of the preferential treatment you’ve been pointing out throughout this thread?

Maybe it’s just me, but I sense you have some sort of axe to grind in this situation.

Posted: 9/9/2018 11:52:38 PM EDT

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I’d bet many in Dallas who get charged with similar crimes usually get much lower bond amounts. Is this an example of the preferential treatment you’ve been pointing out throughout this thread?

Maybe it’s just me, but I sense you have some sort of axe to grind in this situation.

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$300K Bond and just like that, she is free again.

I’d bet many in Dallas who get charged with similar crimes usually get much lower bond amounts. Is this an example of the preferential treatment you’ve been pointing out throughout this thread?

Maybe it’s just me, but I sense you have some sort of axe to grind in this situation.

$300k for manslaughter is way higher than "normal" in Dallas County. Intoxication manslaughter is $50k.

2017 recommended bond schedule.

Posted: 9/10/2018 1:40:55 AM EDT

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$300k bond is very high and only in extreme circumstances can you get a "no bond" warrant.

Will she abscond? Only time will tell.

But you cannot deny someone a right to bond simply because they "might." If that were the litmus test nobody would be able to bond out. You need more than a wild guess to get a no bond.

Looks on the surface to be a very bad shoot, but that does not mean she is going to be a flight risk.

Posted: 9/10/2018 9:55:44 AM EDT

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Just the facts Ma'am.

Posted: 9/10/2018 1:29:52 PM EDT

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Kaufman? What gives?

There were a bunch of DPD who turned themselves over to Seagoville a few months back

I'll admit it's a sad situation and a clusterfuck, but anyone else not wearing a badge would be arrested immediately and sitting in jail in Dallas.

Posted: 9/10/2018 4:21:44 PM EDT

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Posted: 9/10/2018 5:14:49 PM EDT

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This is one reason why I tell all of my LTC students that:

1) Just because you can shoot, doesn't mean you should.
2) A flashlight is incredibly important.
3) You should always do your best to understand the situation and circumstances before shooting, although this is at times a luxury.

Based on that description, it seems like she (aside from having poor situational awareness) freaked out... She didn't ID her target well enough, decided not to retreat, and then escalated force REALLY quickly.

Posted: 9/10/2018 5:48:29 PM EDT

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That's going to end badly for her I would expect.

Posted: 9/10/2018 6:06:42 PM EDT

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I certainly hope so.

Posted: 9/10/2018 6:40:56 PM EDT

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Either that or she knows she's going away for a while so she was making the best of what time she had left.

Or they told her to stay away from her own home for her own safety.

Posted: 9/10/2018 7:10:26 PM EDT

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Her lawyer probably arranged for her to be processed outside of Dallas to avoid the media attention and stay in hiding while the bail was being processed. Neither her nor DPD would want any more media attention than they are already getting.

Posted: 9/10/2018 7:13:22 PM EDT

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Fox4 said Texas Rangers arranged it with DCSO and her lawyer.