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Posted: 3/5/2022 10:36:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 1. the language removed by the committee amendments were enhancements to current Ohio gun law (those enhancements to current law was not ultimately contained in HB 227).. What were these, anyone know? |
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Posted: 3/5/2022 10:38:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I get the feeling he's going to ignore it and let it become law without his signature. I'm sure he's being lobbied heavily by antis. I would think if he was going to sign it, he'd have done it yesterday and gone away for the weekend. I'm thinking the same. The headline opportunity was last night. Politically it's the smart move; he can deny he supported it to the RINOs and say it was a veto-proof bill anyway, while telling us he allowed it to happen and so is a hero and we should support him. This is why politicians like to tell us what good things "happened under my watch" rather than what they actually did. |
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Posted: 3/5/2022 12:55:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What were these, anyone know? two amendments were adopted in the committee. they are both very simple amendments, ...basically, as i understand it, all they did was ensure that the current baseline of OH gun law statute is unchanged. you can read them here: 1342688: https://search-prod.lis.state.oh.us/cm_pub_api/api/unwrap/chamber/134th_ga/bills/senate/sb215/02_PS/cm_amend_AM_134_2688%20_sb215ps_am2688.pdf 1342670: https://search-prod.lis.state.oh.us/cm_pub_api/api/unwrap/chamber/134th_ga/bills/senate/sb215/02_PS/cm_amend_AM_134_2670_AM_134_2670.pdf ...and here is the bill, as first passed by the senate in dec 2021... so you can see that 1342670 removes section C on the lines specified in the amendment, and just moves section D up to be the new section C... https://search-prod.lis.state.oh.us/solarapi/v1/general_assembly_134/bills/sb215/PS/02/sb215_02_PS?format=pdf the language removed in section C (line 151-158) was a modification to the existing statute (underlined text)... they removed this attempted modification, ...the bill stays more true to the scope of constitutional carry, i.e. simply removing the requirement to get a CHL to carry concealed (the one exception being it also tackles duty-to-notify)... ...so, SB 215, as passed is a big leap forward, and there is zero backtracking (no modification of current statute, no reversal of current statute)... |
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Posted: 3/5/2022 1:02:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I get the feeling he's going to ignore it and let it become law without his signature. I'm sure he's being lobbied heavily by antis. I would think if he was going to sign it, he'd have done it yesterday and gone away for the weekend. hmm... i'm not sure, it's kinda fascinating just to anticipate what he eventually does here... ...he did sign the so-called stand-your-ground stuff despite being a bit agitated... ...i also recall kasich signing several pro-gun bills in his first term w/out making any noise... ...if i were to make a prediction, i'd say he's more likely to sign it than not... he's an incumbent facing some stiff primary opposition, and the base that shows up in primaries, many of us know he promised to support this bill... i believe many of the primary voters were fed-up with his covid emergency powers antics, ...he has to show he'll step up to the plate and not cower before us... |
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Posted: 3/5/2022 1:23:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ...you no longer are obligated to "promptly inform" the officer during a "terry stop" or similar LEO-related interaction... you are expected to acknowledge that you are legally armed only if the officer asks you specifically. I always thought it was a stupid part of the law. They knew you had a CCW when they called in your plates anyway. |
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Posted: 3/5/2022 1:49:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I always thought it was a stupid part of the law. They knew you had a CCW when they called in your plates anyway. yep, i abhor duty-to-notify, ...it feels like some kinda self-incrimination thing, and i believe it is dangerous, particularly fall prey to a cop impersonator... ...if cops need duty-to-notify to "feel safe", they should find another line of work where the liars are a bit more polite, say like congress... |
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Posted: 3/5/2022 2:44:20 PM EDT
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I still think Dewine will sign the bill.
And in spite of my criticism of the last minute amendments, I agree that this is a win for liberty and a huge step forward for Ohio. 
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Posted: 3/5/2022 4:58:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I still think Dewine will sign the bill. And in spite of my criticism of the last minute amendments, I agree that this is a win for liberty and a huge step forward for Ohio. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/The_Rock_Applause-169.gif  |
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Posted: 3/6/2022 9:45:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I still think Dewine will sign the bill. And in spite of my criticism of the last minute amendments, I agree that this is a win for liberty and a huge step forward for Ohio. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/The_Rock_Applause-169.gif I am thinking you are right. It's going to become law anyway, since it's veto proof, so he may as well get credit for helping to pass it... |
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Posted: 3/7/2022 12:20:25 PM EDT
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(614) 466-3555. Call the Governor and tell him to sign SB215.
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Posted: 3/7/2022 1:03:00 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/7/2022 1:41:32 PM EDT
[#12]
Folks, call now!!!!
...i just called and actually got through to a real person! Governor Mike Dewine 614-466-3555 |
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Posted: 3/7/2022 1:54:39 PM EDT
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It was just on the news that his mother in law died. He may be distracted from work for a day or three.
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Posted: 3/7/2022 3:11:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It was just on the news that his mother in law died. He may be distracted from work for a day or three. Celebrating?  Sorry, bad MIL joke. |
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Posted: 3/7/2022 3:18:04 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: (614) 466-3555. Call the Governor and tell him to sign SB215. +1.. put in my call. |
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Posted: 3/7/2022 4:41:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I understand your hesitancy but I think that this will go through. Regardless of how he feels about 2A issues he really hasn't shot any down with vetoes lately. Clearly Little Mikey supported the '94 AWB and extending it in '04 so I get it, he isn't a gun guy. What he is though is a career politician. He gets that there is strong support for 2A issues in his constituency here in OH. I don't know if he'll sign it but I would be surprised if he vetoed it. He cares about being "important" and his job, that is about the extent of it. My guess is that it will proceed without his signature but who knows? It seems like his ads on the radio have been trying to appeal to the more conservative side of the R base lately. Maybe he will sign it thinking that if he does we'll all forget/forgive his votes on the Federal AWB. Either way I can't see a veto coming. I talked to our Sheriff (Nemi) Sat at a pancake breakfast and he said DeSwine will sign it in law. |
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Posted: 3/7/2022 5:09:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I talked to our Sheriff (Nemi) Sat at a pancake breakfast and he said DeSwine will sign it in law. Did Niemi have any other comments about the bill in general? For/against, etc? |
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Posted: 3/7/2022 5:26:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did Niemi have any other comments about the bill in general? For/against, etc? Pro-carry |
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Posted: 3/7/2022 6:10:05 PM EDT
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I kinda don't want him to sign it. I think that would pump up support for Blystone even more.
It's going to be law regardless, I'd like to use it to get him out of office. |
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Posted: 3/7/2022 6:33:52 PM EDT
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...added a poll to the thread (What will Dewine Do?)
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Posted: 3/7/2022 6:41:32 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: ...added a poll to the thread (What will Dewine Do?)
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Posted: 3/7/2022 7:39:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I talked to our Sheriff (Nemi) Sat at a pancake breakfast and he said DeSwine will sign it in law. I have never met anyone with a stronger handshake than Sheriff Niemi. I swear I thought my hand was broken. It was embarrassing.
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Posted: 3/7/2022 8:41:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ...added a poll to the thread (What will Dewine Do?) 
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Posted: 3/8/2022 12:36:17 AM EDT
[#24]
Cautiously optimistic. |
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Posted: 3/8/2022 3:11:43 PM EDT
[#25]
Called yesterday to offset any anti-s noise. Predicting he will sit on it and let it lapse into law. If he signs it, I will be shocked.
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Posted: 3/8/2022 3:40:42 PM EDT
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folks, if you haven't already, ...just make the call, it only takes a minute...
 Governor Mike Dewine 614-466-3555 |
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Posted: 3/8/2022 3:43:57 PM EDT
[#27]
...if you get to a voicemail, leave a message.
...all you have to do (if you don't want to give personal info) is just give your first name and what part of the state you're from, and urge Dewine sign SB 215... ...all that really matters is right now is putting in generic calls of support, ..that's how politicians view things... |
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Posted: 3/8/2022 4:20:42 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: folks, if you haven't already, ...just make the call, it only takes a minute... Governor Mike Dewine 614-466-3555 Just called. Only takes a second. Talked to a nice lady, but very briefly. Will probably call again in a day or so... |
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Posted: 3/8/2022 4:23:17 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: ...if you get to a voicemail, leave a message. ...all you have to do (if you don't want to give personal info) is just give your first name and what part of the state you're from, and urge Dewine sign SB 215... ...all that really matters is right now is putting in generic calls of support, ..that's how politicians view things... Voicemail is full! Edit: Called back and got a human, passed along my encouragement to sign the bill. |
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Posted: 3/8/2022 4:34:34 PM EDT
[#30]
Just called. Mailbox full.
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Posted: 3/8/2022 4:39:00 PM EDT
[#31]
guys, way to go, you're crushing it!!!
 ...folks, keep calling, even if the mailbox is full, we're jamming it up!!! then call again tomorrow, and the next day! hell yeah! 
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Posted: 3/8/2022 7:12:08 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm thinking the same. The headline opportunity was last night. Politically it's the smart move; he can deny he supported it to the RINOs and say it was a veto-proof bill anyway, while telling us he allowed it to happen and so is a hero and we should support him. This is why politicians like to tell us what good things "happened under my watch" rather than what they actually did. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I get the feeling he's going to ignore it and let it become law without his signature. I'm sure he's being lobbied heavily by antis. I would think if he was going to sign it, he'd have done it yesterday and gone away for the weekend. I'm thinking the same. The headline opportunity was last night. Politically it's the smart move; he can deny he supported it to the RINOs and say it was a veto-proof bill anyway, while telling us he allowed it to happen and so is a hero and we should support him. This is why politicians like to tell us what good things "happened under my watch" rather than what they actually did. When does the deadline come for it to be law without his signature ? |
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Posted: 3/8/2022 7:27:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When does the deadline come for it to be law without his signature ? Ten days, not counting Sundays, from final passage. |
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Posted: 3/8/2022 7:46:50 PM EDT
[#34]
folks,
a reminder, ...tomorrow is a new day, ...that means a new day to make the call... ...jam the line, jam the mailbox, ...try multiple times to see if you get through to an aid, and let them know you want him to sign it! ...it takes just a minute, do on your way to work, your lunch break, or whenever you can: Governor Mike Dewine 614-466-3555 |
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Posted: 3/8/2022 10:15:11 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: folks, a reminder, ...tomorrow is a new day, ...that means a new day to make the call... ...jam the line, jam the mailbox, ...try multiple times to see if you get through to an aid, and let them know you want him to sign it! ...it takes just a minute, do on your way to work, your lunch break, or whenever you can: Governor Mike Dewine 614-466-3555 Will call again tomorrow. |
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Posted: 3/8/2022 10:16:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Will call again tomorrow. 
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Posted: 3/9/2022 2:04:58 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/9/2022 8:35:41 AM EDT
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One of these days I'm going to check the thread and one of you will have posted he signed it.
You better not be lying. |
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Posted: 3/9/2022 8:50:20 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: One of these days I'm going to check the thread and one of you will have posted he signed it. You better not be lying. Given the death in his family, I doubt he's signing anything this week. |
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Posted: 3/9/2022 10:05:09 AM EDT
[#40]
IN passed and sent to their Governor.
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Posted: 3/9/2022 10:05:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://governor.ohio.gov/ Quote HistoryQuoted: https://governor.ohio.gov/ Oh, no! Traffic on Governor.ohio.gov is higher than anticipated. Please wait a moment and try again. |
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Posted: 3/9/2022 10:33:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Given the death in his family, I doubt he's signing anything this week. |
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Posted: 3/9/2022 10:45:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If I'm counting the days correctly the time period for him to sign/veto expires this Monday (3/14). Even if he doesn't sign it I really can't see him vetoing it. So Tuesday it becomes "passed". Tuesday June 14 it becomes effective? I always get screwe up on fencepost errors. 90th day or after 90 days? |
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Posted: 3/9/2022 11:16:54 AM EDT
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Called again. Spoke with the same woman. Keep calling!
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Posted: 3/9/2022 11:24:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Given the death in his family, I doubt he's signing anything this week. I hate to sound callus but in an elected position such as his there really is not “time off.” It’s understandable that he may need a day here or there to handle arrangements, attend a funeral, etc. but we can’t be serious to think that the fact that he hasn’t signed this yet is because of his mother-in-law’s death last week. It’s been on his desk for 4-5 days now. Next you will try to tell me that the Secretary of Transportation is going to take 2-3 months off of work for paternity leave in the middle of a pending infrastructure bill and supply chain crisis! |
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Posted: 3/9/2022 11:49:52 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I hate to sound callus but in an elected position such as his there really is not “time off.” It’s understandable that he may need a day here or there to handle arrangements, attend a funeral, etc. but we can’t be serious to think that the fact that he hasn’t signed this yet is because of his mother-in-law’s death last week. It’s been on his desk for 4-5 days now. Next you will try to tell me that the Secretary of Transportation is going to take 2-3 months off of work for paternity leave in the middle of a pending infrastructure bill and supply chain crisis!  He signs, he doesn't sign, makes no real difference. It's still gonna become law. |
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Posted: 3/9/2022 12:43:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Next you will try to tell me that the Secretary of Transportation is going to take 2-3 months off of work for paternity leave in the middle of a pending infrastructure bill and supply chain crisis! That would just be stupid and irresponsible. |
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Posted: 3/9/2022 12:54:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: IN passed and sent to their Governor. so, ....the race is on! will IN beat us to #22?...  https://bearingarms.com/tomknighton/2022/03/09/constitutional-carry-19-n56209 |
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Posted: 3/9/2022 12:58:25 PM EDT
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folks, ...the death of Dewine's MIL isn't stopping him from tweeting about lead pipes, virtue-signalling for "ukraine" and refugees, etc...
https://twitter.com/GovMikeDeWine ...when you're governor, shit doesn't stop happening, you're always on the job... |
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Posted: 3/9/2022 1:02:33 PM EDT
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...Mikey is governor because of gun rights supporters...
...He made a campaign promise... ...We have good memories... ...He is going to hear from us to remind him of that... Make the Call! Short, sweet, to the point: 1. state your name (first name only is perfectly fine) 2. state what part of OH you're in 3. state that you want him to uphold his promise and sign SB 215 constitutional carry Done! Governor Mike Dewine 614-466-3555 |
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